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Jedi_Knight
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 Posted - 05/08/2008 : 22:05:30
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quote:
Originally posted by Shatteren
Ze maga nedas ani kdyby ses posral, v divine shieldu mu max znicis Ice Barrieru a trochu ho zranis a tim koncis. Budes potom stat na miste a v tom zemres.
1v1 is seriouz buzinezz, right? |
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Shatteren
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Azkaban
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 08:20:50
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Klub mladých Pívípí hráčů :))
PvP co tu řešíte je jen na papíře. Většinou vychází z ideálního rozpoložení a fatku, že nikdo z hráčů neudělá chybu. V realitě (hehe to zní komicky, když se bavíme o hře:)) je to ovšem jinak. Lidé dělají chyby, neumí hrát za postavu, nemají ideální buildy, equip atd. Proto je vždy pvp velká neznáma. I ty pitomé arény. Píše se tu že ten a ten s tou a tou rasou sou mega skilleři a dají si vše. Jenže kolik je těch hráčů co za svou postavu umí hrát a dovedou hrát v cooperativě v aréně.
Proto si myslím, že je to pěkné že tu brečíte nebo naopak jásáte nad tím jak je kdo boostuntý nebo nerfnutý, ale ve skutečnosti to za jakou postavu hraješ je vedlejší :)
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Pertha
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 08:35:07
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Originally posted by Azkaban
Klub mladých Pívípí hráčů :))
Proto si myslím, že je to pěkné že tu brečíte nebo naopak jásáte nad tím jak je kdo boostuntý nebo nerfnutý, ale ve skutečnosti to za jakou postavu hraješ je vedlejší :)
neni pravda my vsichni hrajeme a zname svou postavu dokonale a tak nas stvou jeji omezeni |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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Shatteren
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Rahman
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 12:39:22
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Originally posted by sleglik
EDIT2: Ted mi došlo, že mluvíš o frostbite efektu to co tady píšeš je absolutně zcestné. Aby se 2x zamrazil za sebou je sakra HODNĚ malá šance. Máš to 15% na jeden pokus (zhruba 2% na dva pokusy za sebou). Rahmane ano máš pravdu při 2% zápasů bude mít retri paladin obrovské problémy, protože se zamrazí 2x za sebou.
Prastis do maga. Dostanes zpomaleni (vzdycky) a obcas i frostbite (spis hodne casto, dostat ho 2x po sobe je naprosto bezne). Tj vzdycky musis dispelnout aspon jeden debuff abys mohl do maga prastit podruhe (on totiz mezi tim utece), nekdy dva.
Hoj na maga -> blink a cau.
Nechci tim rict, ze by retri palag nemel co proti magovi zahrat. Retri palat ma co zahrat prakticky proti komukoliv. Vetsinu prumernych hracu v 1vs1 situaci s retri palatem zabiju at je to class jaka chce. Ovsem pokud to nekdo umi, tak se svet deli na 2 druhy class: Ty co me zabijou a ty, co v konecnem case nezabiju (rozumej healeri).
Mozna feral na feral druida ma retri palat navrch, ale to nepocitam jako pvp class/spec kombinaci. |
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sleglik
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 13:03:54
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| Blessing of Justice taky nepůsobí? |
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Pertha
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 13:11:01
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Originally posted by sleglik
Blessing of Justice taky nepůsobí?
ne to se fakt neda pouzivat pokud tomu magovi neco chces taky udelat
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Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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sleglik
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 13:17:32
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Jo jasně, ale já myslel ten judgemenet.
Spletl jsem se :( |
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Shatteren
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 15:39:26
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| Na co ti je proboha JoS ? Nejen ze je to ztrata burst dmg, ale kostkou to shodi (popripade insignii). |
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sleglik
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 15:40:13
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| Já myslel, že to funguje tak, že ti pak nemůže utéct. Já jako feral druid jsem pak v loji, když mi to dá |
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Shatteren
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 15:45:59
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JoS dava zpomaleni na 100% movement speed. Nevim jestli pouzivaji magove nejakej meta gem na zrychleni pohybu nebo enchant na rychlejsi beh, nechci kecat.
Takze paladin ma v zakladu +15% running speed, takze vlastne 115% run speed. Druid kdyz switchne na travel formu, tak ma 140% speed. Ground mounti maj 160% a 200% speed + enchanty - JoSem to vsechno stahnes na 100%. Takze se normalne stava, ze predbehnes lidi na mountovi nebo druida v travel forme.
JoS je takova zajimava verze hamstringu, v necem ma velky vyhody (velkej nepritel druidu), ale zase je snadno dispellovatelnej, pokud neni na targetu treba jeste Vindication. JoS se dispellne insignii (take). |
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Pertha
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Posted - 06/08/2008 : 16:24:18
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| ale proti tomu magovi to nepomuze , i kdyz bude mit enchanty a zpomalis si ho na 100procent tak ty mas zpomaleni o 30 procent z kazde rany co mu das, takze ten mag stejne bezi rychleji |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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Shatteren
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Shatteren
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sleglik
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 00:25:39
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| Nevěřím tomu, že by warr byl nejslabší v pvp jak se tu snažíte naznačit...... |
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Eagle
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 00:29:33
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| war je byl a bude dycky nejslabsi proto byl je a bude v kazdym teamu :) ... nekdo nejslabsi bejt musi :) |
UO, SWG, WoW, EVE, DF, LoL
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Shatteren
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 02:20:59
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| Tak v prve rade uz neni zdaleka v kazdem teamu, zadruhe v tom teamu musej byt aspon 2 healeri, jinak ho proste nemaj sanci udrzet (Haha Lol, plechovka ktera umre driv nez rogue). A to ze ma snadno aplikovatelnej MS effect z neho nedela nebezpecnou 1v1 classu bez supportu. |
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sleglik
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 06:13:39
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Vzhledem k tomu, že je 9 povolání bylo by opravdu smutné, kdyby v každém 5vs5 týmu byl warrior... opravdu hodně smutné. Beru v potaz jenom 5vs5 týmy. Máš 9 pidižvíků a 5 míst v arénovém týmu. Mělo by to být něco přes 50%? :)
To doufám snad je ;)
Určitě by se to mělo přepočítat na množství daných class, ale i tak warrior má svoje zastoupení adekvátní... |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 07:00:16
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Pomalu prostuduj WOTLK talenty a ability u vsech class, a pak se vrat k warrovi. Navic rogue je daleko lepsi do tymu.
Jesteze Ghostcrawler rekl, ze war vubec neni hotovy a jeho talenty jsou momentalne pouze "vlozene". Nemeli na nem vubec cas delat a ma prijit pouze na radu. Take zminoval, ze to nebude pouze o tom, ze zvedli dmg specek, ale maji shiftovat talenty, pridavat ci menit jejich silu/schopnosti. Stale mam takovou blahovou nadeji, ze Fury bude v pohode na PvP i bez MS (coz mi prijde hodne nerealne). |
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sleglik
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 10:42:21
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| Tak já vám dám radu, smažte si warra a založte si něco jiného! :) |
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Rahman
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 11:23:21
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
Stale mam takovou blahovou nadeji, ze Fury bude v pohode na PvP i bez MS (coz mi prijde hodne nerealne).
Nebude. MS je totiz prilis silny efekt. Melee classy bez MS maji obrovskou ztratu proti rogune/warrovi co se tyce prinosu do tymu a hiorko tezko to vyrovnavaji abilitama typu dispel, dalsi druhy supportu, atd. Totez bys musel dat fury warrovi, a to tak hluboko, aby na to nedosahnul warr s MS. Coz je opravdu nerealne.
Nicmene pribude 10 talentu, takze i s MS se dostanes ve fury mnohem dal. |
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Shatteren
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 11:58:08
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| No jsem zvedavej na to, jak ho predelaj. Ale ted uz bude mit mozna Endless rage nejakej vetsi vyznam. Sudden Death vypada dobre. |
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Seth
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Posted - 14/08/2008 : 10:49:30
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Originally posted by Shatteren
Sudden Death vypada dobre.
jo neni nad to zbavit se cele rage na target, kterej ma 80% hp. Pak mu spadne MS a hamstring a smeje se na warra. Sudden death povazuju za nejvetsi vysmech arms warru - rage starved spec s vylepsenym execute  |
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sleglik
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Posted - 14/08/2008 : 17:55:52
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| Warr jakmile vyplácá rage tak nemůže získat další? :o |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 14/08/2008 : 19:44:15
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Originally posted by sleglik
Warr jakmile vyplácá rage tak nemůže získat další? :o
Offtopic: Tohle je opravdu "vtipne". Covece ty budes nejaky expert pres wary. |
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qsubt
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Posted - 14/08/2008 : 20:50:48
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
quote:
Originally posted by sleglik
Warr jakmile vyplácá rage tak nemůže získat další? :o
Offtopic: Tohle je opravdu "vtipne". Covece ty budes nejaky expert pres wary.
mam dojem ze sleglik je expert pres vsechno, i frost magy.
nicmene zejmena s endless rage.. je ten talent suddden death porad lepsi nez nic, ptz nic te nenuti tu abilitu pouzit, muzes ji pouzit ve vhodnych pripadech kdy mas rage nadbytek. ale ono je to stejne cele k nicemu. |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 14/08/2008 : 21:21:49
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Nejsem si schopen si vybavit dobu, kdy bych mel v arms dostatek rage, tedy jak pises nadbytek. At si kdo chce co chce rika, jet endless rage proste hovadina. Mas daleko vetsi benefit, kdyz radeji zajedes do fury tree, nez si vyplacat body zbytecne v armsech, aby ses dostal na ER. Dokazal bych si predstavit Sudden Death bud ve Fury anebo nekde hodne nizko napriklad Tier 2, ci 3. Kdyz pouziju trosku vulgarnejsi prirovnani, tak by se hovno stalo, protoze proc by nemohl mit tento "benefit" jakykoliv tree. Sudden Death i ER jsou proste talenty o nicem, oni pouze vypadaji hezky, ale tim to konci.
Btw. Sudden Death by mohlo byt klidne napojene na improved execute, protoze pak se zveda trosicku benefit, diky usetrenym 5 rage. Kazdopadne tezko neco vymyslet pro IMO useless talent. |
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qsubt
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 00:59:03
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
Nejsem si schopen si vybavit dobu, kdy bych mel v arms dostatek rage,
zapoj trochu fantazie, co treba .. jsi v BG za zadama mas 4 healery, kolem tebe je 10 zeleno-modrych aliku, co dou dmg permanente do tebe? 
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tedy jak pises nadbytek. At si kdo chce co chce rika, jet endless rage proste hovadina. Mas daleko vetsi benefit, kdyz radeji zajedes do fury tree, nez si vyplacat body zbytecne v armsech, aby ses dostal na ER.
no zalezi kam wara chces, pokud nejaky nadsenec ho chce rteba do 'pvp', tak mu fury vetev mojim chatrnym okem nic nenabizi, 5/5 flury a konec. tzn celkem 30bodu
EDIT: tim ten talent neobhajuju, je skoro k nicemu stejne jako ten talent co nahrazuje (to zkracovani CD) |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 06:46:00
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Fury vetev nabidne minimalne enrage, ktery by mel mit IMO kazdy war co jede do PvP. Kazdopadne ani tak to nevychazi, pokud chces prdnout jeste alespon 2/3 Tactical mastery, kvuli stance dance. Co na to tak koukam, tak chybi dva talent pointy. Ano muzes mit enrage 3/5, ale neni lepsi se na ER vykaslat mit 5/5 enrage, 2/3 TM a jeste mit moznost investovat 4 talent pointy, kam se mi zlibi = efektivneji.
Jo az bude fury take vhodna na PvP, tak to mozna bude stat za aktivaci.  |
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Bajaja
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 07:48:02
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| Tolik dobrejch warů kolem ? Znervózňuje mě to.... |
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sleglik
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 10:13:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Shemiramoth
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Originally posted by sleglik
Warr jakmile vyplácá rage tak nemůže získat další? :o
Offtopic: Tohle je opravdu "vtipne". Covece ty budes nejaky expert pres wary.
spajdr to napsal takový stylem, že to tak vyznělo, tak jsem se udiveně zeptal...
přečti si post na který jsem reagoval ještě jednou a pochopíš moji ironii... nebo možná ne :)
EDIT: já nejsem expert na nic jenom rád si z Vás dělám legraci jak tu píšete o tom, že jsou warrové chudinky... možná se zkuste zamyslet sami nad sebou ;) |
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Rahman
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 17:31:07
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Execute je porad jedna z nejlepsich specek co se pomeru damage/rage a pomeru damage/cas tyce, nikdo te nenuti pouzit ho s plnou ragi.
A svete div se, ve wow existuje i neco jineho nez areny a i tam kupodivu warriori hrajou. Osobne mi to prijde jako hodne dobry talent ktery by mohl arms warrum celkem solidne boostnout damage. |
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Seth
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 21:16:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Rahman
Execute je porad jedna z nejlepsich specek co se pomeru damage/rage a pomeru damage/cas tyce, nikdo te nenuti pouzit ho s plnou ragi.
A svete div se, ve wow existuje i neco jineho nez areny a i tam kupodivu warriori hrajou. Osobne mi to prijde jako hodne dobry talent ktery by mohl arms warrum celkem solidne boostnout damage.
execute nescaluje v BC tak jako ostatni skilly
Proste je to skill, kterej neexecutuje protoze jeho "dmg" neni dostatecne velka na to, aby nekoho sundala z 20% na 0 v PvP.
2Sleglik: war ma samozrejme nekonecnou rage, nicmene dmg a cas jsou mnohdy rozhodujici - burst dmg mezi dvema CC - war si proste nemuze dovolit prijit o MS a hamstring na targetu, protoze bez nich by u opravdu NIKOHO nezabil. |
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Stilgar
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 10:21:31
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| A kdo ti rika abys odpaloval Execute na 19-20%?... Dat execute priliz brzo a spalit si tim rage a pak nemit ani na ten blbej MS a koukat jak se ti to vyhealuje je chyba na strane wara. |
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Gurrshael
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 10:57:04
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Ty jo, me by se taky libilo mit abilitu, ktera nekoho sunda z 20% na 0, navic kdyz jsme oba navleceni v PVP equipu...
A ani nahodou mi nepripada prehnana! |
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qsubt
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 01:25:45
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# Enrage (Fury) now increases damage done by 3/6/9/12/15%, limitation on number of attacks removed.
# Mace Specialization (Arms) no longer stuns enemies, and now generates 10 rage.
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 06:26:17
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Originally posted by qsubt
# Enrage (Fury) now increases damage done by 3/6/9/12/15%, limitation on number of attacks removed.
# Mace Specialization (Arms) no longer stuns enemies, and now generates 10 rage.
Ja myslel, ze nas meli buffnout ;-).
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Stalo se presne to co jsem rikal kdysi. Fury dostalo healing debuff. :-)))
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Arms
* Thunderclap cooldown increased from 4 seconds to 6 seconds.
Protection
* Shield Wall damage reduction increased from 50% to 60%.
* Shield Block now Increases your chance to block and block value by 100% for 5 sec. Cooldown changed from 30 seconds to 1 minute.
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Arms
* Bladestorm now lasts 6 seconds instead of 4.5 seconds.
* Strength of Arms moved from tier 10 to tier 8. Changed to a 2 point talent and now increases your total strength and total health by 2/4% (was 1/2/3/4/5%)
* New talent - Wrecking Crew (Tier 10) - Your melee critical hits have a 20/40/60/80/100% chance to Enrage you, increasing all damage caused by 3% for 12 sec.
* Blood Frenzy now makes your Rend and Deep Wounds abilities also increase all physical damage caused to that target by 1/2%. (was 2/4/%)
* New talent - Bull rush (Tier 9) - Increases the duration of the Stun effect of your Charge and Intercept abilities by 0.4/0.7/1 seconds.
* Improved Mortal Strike now increases the damage caused by your Mortal Strike ability by 2/4/6/8/10% and gives your Enraged Assault ability a 6/12/18/24/30% chance to refresh the cooldown of Mortal Strike.
* Trauma has been moved from tier 8 to tier 9.
* Unrelenting assault now reduces the cooldown of your Overpower and Revenge by 2/4 seconds. (was 1/2 seconds)
* Mace specialization changed, it now gives your melee attacks a chance to generate 10 rage when using a Mace.
* Improved charge now increases the amount of rage generated by your charge ability by 5/10 (was 3/6).
* Bloodletting has been renamed to Improved Rend once again, and doesn't affect Bloodbath anymore.
* Improved Slam (Tier 7) has been moved to the Arms tree.
* New talent - Taste for Blood (Tier 4) - Whenever your Rend ability causes damage, you have a 10/20/30% chance of allowing the use of your Overpower ability for 5 secs.
* New talent - Justified Killing (Tier 4) - You gain 6 rage every time you parry an attack.
Fury
* Heroic Leap moved from Tier 11 to Tier 9.
* Titan's Grip moved from Tier 10 to Tier 11. It is now 1 rank and Allows you to equip two-handed axes, maces and swords in one hand. No speed penalty anymore.
* Furious Resolve (Tier 9) removed.
* New Talent - Furious Attacks (Tier 8 ) - Your normal melee attacks have a 50/100% chance to reduce all healing done to the target by 25% for 8 sec. This can stack up to 2 times.
* Rampage (Tier 9) completely changed: Your melee critical hits cause you to go on a rampage, increasing melee critical hit chance of all party and raid members within 20 yds by 5%. Lasts 10 sec.
* Intensify Rage moved to Tier 5 and completely changed: Reduces the cooldown of your Bloodrage, Berserker Rage, Recklessness and Deathwish abilities by 11/22/33%.
* Improved Slam (Tier 5) Moved to arms.
* Death Wish is (Tier 5) now flagged as an Enrage.
* Enrage (Tier 4) now gives you 3/6/9/12/15% increased damage after being the victim of a critical strike. It now works on all attacks for 12 sec. (Previously 5/10/15/20/25% and lasted for 12 swings)
* New talent - Unending Fury (Tier 10) - Reduces the rage cost of your Cleave, Whirlwind and Bloodthirst abilities by 1 and gives your Enraged Assault ability a 6/12/18/24/30% chance to refresh the cooldown of Bloodthirst.
Protection
* Stalwart Protector (Tier 8 ) has been removed.
* Shield Mastery (Tier 6) Changed to increase block value by 10/20/30%.
* Improved Sunder Armor (Tier 4) renamed to Puncture.
* Improved Shield Block (Tier 3) Reduces the cooldown of Shield Block by 10/20 sec. (Previously 5/10 sec)
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celdric
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 07:37:22
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me by jenom zajimalo jestli aspon nekdo jeste u Blizzardu tusi co dela...
mimochodem ten shield block... je to ten skill co jsem byl zvyklej mackat kazdych 5 nebo 6 sekund v dungeonu abych nedostaval tolik damage?
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a ten TC me prijde taky jako dobra sranda...na to ze jsem nekde cetl vyjadreni v tom smyslu, ze to ma byt jeden z hlavnich skillu co ma pomahat warovi tankovat multimob pully... tak to zvyseni CD moc nechapu.... ale treba tomu daj poradny aggro :-D |
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Shatteren
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 11:17:54
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Jo, slibovali ze TC zvysej threat. A mozna to udelali abys mel cas na jiny specky, to nevim ale na jaky 
No a jinak je to teda cely dost zvlastni, podle nerfu v DMG to vypada ze se warru bojej stejne jako se jich bali nez vyslo BC. Ovsem fury warr je ted hoooodne zajimavej. Podle me budou arms tree jeste predelavat, a titan grip nezpomaluje attack speed teda? Nebo je to standardne 20% ?
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Vengeance - Now stacks up to 2 times, down from 3.
Asi nerf? Dava to teda jen 5% a 10% nebo 10% a pak rovnou 15% ? |
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Shatteren
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Seth
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 11:34:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Shatteren
Jo, slibovali ze TC zvysej threat. A mozna to udelali abys mel cas na jiny specky, to nevim ale na jaky
prej tomu zvedli i dmg, proto ten zvedlej CD
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No a jinak je to teda cely dost zvlastni, podle nerfu v DMG to vypada ze se warru bojej stejne jako se jich bali nez vyslo BC. Ovsem fury warr je ted hoooodne zajimavej. Podle me budou arms tree jeste predelavat, a titan grip nezpomaluje attack speed teda? Nebo je to standardne 20% ?
TG ma byt DPS increase jak psali a bohuzel s tim zpomalenim o 20% to zadny narust nebyl. Proto tohle. Imho to nerfnou, popripade "nepredelaji berserk stance" takze war bude stejne v prdeli.
Vlasne ani nevim co si od tech zmen slibuju
Imp. slam jsem tipnul dobre, ale zbytek... fakt nevim.
Prijde mi, ze v dalsim datadisku bude muset mit war minimalne dalsi 2 healery, aby udelal dmg srovnatelnou s classou bez healera (lock/mage/rogue)
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Paladin
Vengeance - Now stacks up to 2 times, down from 3.
Asi nerf? Dava to teda jen 5% a 10% nebo 10% a pak rovnou 15% ?
10% a pak 20% tzn BUFF! |
Seth
Forgotten
bo=protoze!
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Gurrshael
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 11:44:09
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| Tss ... a feral druidi zase nic, nejaky buff by to chtelo :) |
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Shatteren
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 11:48:16
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Seth: dik za info
Gursh: Cetl jsem nekde vyjadreni, ze druid bude ve WoTLK "more competetive in arenas". Takze nevim co jim dali nebo co jim jeste daj, ale i ted lidi uz feral spec docela chvalej. |
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Gurrshael
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 13:01:27
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Originally posted by Shatteren
Seth: dik za info
Gursh: Cetl jsem nekde vyjadreni, ze druid bude ve WoTLK "more competetive in arenas". Takze nevim co jim dali nebo co jim jeste daj, ale i ted lidi uz feral spec docela chvalej.
Nejake veci uz v tech novych talentech dostali, to jim nechci zase krivdit. Jen porad slibujou, ze neco bude, ze o druidech hodne mluvi a .... nic z toho, zatim. Ono to prijde, ale ja bych rad alespon neco videl uz ted :) |
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Pertha
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 13:11:26
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jsem slysel, ze chtej udelat ferala stejne silnym do pvp jako resto
takze mu daj v medvedovi kazdej utok 50 procent sance na stun , imunni proti zpomalovacim efektum fearu a polymorphu
v kocce kazdej utok stackuje debuf 30 procent healu dolu max 3 stacky a samozrejme imunni na zpomalovaci efekty fear a polymorph + abilita v kocce cd 5 sec ktera pritahne vas cil primo pod drapy kdyby nahodou odbehl - netestuje se los ani vzdalenost , proste co dokazete dostat do targetu to si portnete |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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Gurrshael
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 13:19:36
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| Jojo, taky jsem to slysel. Ani nevis jak se na to tesim. Konecne bude tahle hra vybalancovana! |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 13:25:25
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| Ty voe, ze bych zacal hrat za drooda. No v pripade blizzardu bych se samozrejme nedivil ani necemu takovemu. |
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Seth
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 13:33:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Gurrshael
Nejake veci uz v tech novych talentech dostali, to jim nechci zase krivdit. Jen porad slibujou, ze neco bude, ze o druidech hodne mluvi a .... nic z toho, zatim. Ono to prijde, ale ja bych rad alespon neco videl uz ted :)
podle me tedka pilujou tankovani u vsech 4 tank classu, az to vypilujou tak to zverejni a od toho se budou odvijet i dalsi feral talenty. |
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