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qsubt
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Posted - 25/10/2006 :  15:07:07  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sic muj realm je off tak sem se nudil a zahledal v history..

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Posted - 27/05/2006 : 22:49:28

a jak by melo vypadat PVP? rozhodne udelat servr s full lootem:) pac pokud neni full loot, a clovek si ani neco odnest jako trofej ani poradne zatancit a pocuurat mrtveho gnoma, tak to neni pvp ale fraska:)

pripadne by se mohlo udelat neco gladiatorska arena, treba 3vs3, 3-2-1 start, bez ressu, kdo zdechne zbroj poradne poskodit zbroj, kdo vyhraje dostane tolik honoru co za 3 hodiny v BG, pripadne jinou sladkou odmenu, taky by to mohlo byt tak ze vitezny fixly team by dostal za W nejaky special flag a druhy den by mohl hrat s jinym W teamem, proste pavouk, a kdo by pak pres to vse vyhral, tak vsichni rank up, kdo prohraje v prvnim kole rank down, atp.. nebo jina odmena/neodmena hlavne i neco negativniho, sic system WOWU nic neztratit jenom ziskat je smesny:(

a vstup by mohl byt jako do instance/BG, stim ale ze PVP by bylo jen v arene a kdo by neseskocil dolu by nemohl byt napadeny ale zaroven by mohl sledovat deni v arene, proste nejak vylepsit myslenku Gurubashi areny, ..... coz jiste nevyresi problem PVP jako takoveho ale mohla by to byt dalsi moznost wowu.

EDIT: k te gladiatorske arene, by to logicky bylo naprc stranama, tj by mohlo byt i horda vs horda atp...


cely threat je tu:
http://www.imperium.cz/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18366&whichpage=3&SearchTerms=%2C
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nerikam ze sem to trefil presne,
-full loot asi ne, no:))
-poradne poskozena zbroj je imho ten vstupni polpatek za "registrovany" team
-doufam v konec nesmyslneho farmeni honoru, bude stacit porazit par TOP teamu, srazit jim jejich honor a ziskat ho na svoji stranu:)

takze myslim ze vcelku vzato se areny ujmuly, kdybych to blizzum nenapsal, nebylo by nic:) 27.5. mam dojem jeste nikdo ani o arenach z Blizzu nic nenaznacoval:)

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Posted - 25/10/2006 :  15:13:30  Show Profile  Send Reyden an ICQ Message Send Reyden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
kam ti mame poslat diplom?

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Pepo
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Posted - 25/10/2006 :  15:49:22  Show Profile  Send Pepo an ICQ Message Send Pepo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Preco mam taky blby pocit ze blizzard si plati dost lidi na to, aby vymyslali presne podobne myslienky, a ze ich nepostuju hned na web jakmile ich nieco napadne. Takze mam taky divny pocit ze oni o tych arenach vedeli mozno niekedy pred rokom
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 25/10/2006 :  15:51:33  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
farmeni honoru tu bude porad, i kdyz ted se to bude jmenovat "farmeni tokenu za ktery si koupis itemy"
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Rakhen
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Posted - 25/10/2006 :  16:09:13  Show Profile Send Rakhen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

farmeni honoru tu bude porad, i kdyz ted se to bude jmenovat "farmeni tokenu za ktery si koupis itemy"



To není tak úplně pravda, uvědom si že "farmení honoru" bylo prostě dané tím že jsi potřeboval "víc než ostatní" a soutěžil jsi s ostatníma ve frakci. Navíc jsi pak "musel" farmit kvůli decay. Obojí z tohohle teď odpadá. Tzn. i pro casuály ty odměny přístupné budou protože nevadí že si týden dáš pauzu nebo třeba hraješ tenhle týden jen jeden den.
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Galilee
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Posted - 25/10/2006 :  21:40:37  Show Profile Send Galilee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rakhen

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

farmeni honoru tu bude porad, i kdyz ted se to bude jmenovat "farmeni tokenu za ktery si koupis itemy"



To není tak úplně pravda, uvědom si že "farmení honoru" bylo prostě dané tím že jsi potřeboval "víc než ostatní" a soutěžil jsi s ostatníma ve frakci. Navíc jsi pak "musel" farmit kvůli decay. Obojí z tohohle teď odpadá. Tzn. i pro casuály ty odměny přístupné budou protože nevadí že si týden dáš pauzu nebo třeba hraješ tenhle týden jen jeden den.






To se neboj - on Blizzard to ma dobre spocitany a vi, jak udrzet lidi pekne u WOWu. V konecnym dusledku to vyjde na stejno, i kdyz na prvni pohled to tak nemusi vypadat. Tokeny klamou telem...
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 25/10/2006 :  22:12:58  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tak jedna zbran stoji 3750 tokenu, jak rychle to pujde ziskat je otazka a jestli bude na to casovej limit (neco jako sezony) to nevim, ale nedivil bych se
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Posted - 25/10/2006 :  23:36:01  Show Profile Send Marigold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nepřekvapil by mne 1 token za výhru
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  00:21:40  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
to by me taky neprekvapilo.. co me ale prekvapilo ze na team 2v2 je potreba podepsat se spoluhracem charter za 50g... jestli to bude tak, ze clovek muze bejt jen v jednom teamu.. tak bye bye casual style of playing
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Cuk0r
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  00:38:43  Show Profile  Send Cuk0r an ICQ Message Send Cuk0r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
mozes byt vo viacerych timoch ale body len za ten najuspesnejsi tim za dany tyzden.

este nemam jasno s tymi timami.
Rozne timy sa mysli 2v2,3v3..5v5 to je ok.

ale ci mozes byt vo viacerych 2v2 timoch tak to nevim...

Nevim ale zatim sa mi nepaci napad davat SpecificBG-token currency. Najma v pripade AV. Pozbierat 40AV tokens nie je sranda u niektorych battlegroups. Trebars by mohli dat 40AVtokens=60 WSG/AB tokens....

Podpisy su pre magorov.
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  00:51:35  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ja vubec mam v TBC honor/pvp systemech bordel

jak to tam vubec je? z toho co sem tak zatim posbiral:

- za jakejkoliv kill dostanes nejaky honor body ktery se na konci tejdne sectou a je to jako ted az na to ze honor body jsou ted "currency"
- v battlegroundech ziskavas za vitezstvi tokeny (jako jsou ted marky) a za ty si spolu s honorem kupujes rewardy
- jak je to s arenou nevim, za vitezstvi je jeden token? to by znamenalo hodne moc vyher, ale budiz
- ty team arena souboje te umistujou na nejakym zebricku, to je k cemu? me je treba u prdele ze mam napsany nekde Grand Marshal Medule, me zajimaj jen rewardy, takze k cemu je zebricek v arene?

dalsi vec z toho co sem napsal mi treba vypliva ze se vyplati ve wsg nehrat na rychlej win, ale na co nejvic "farmeni HK" protoze HK = "currency" zatimco vyhra je jen mark, neboli temer pointless, sezbirat 60 marku z wsg je radove 100x lehci nez mit 20.000 HK

Kdo kde neco cetl, nebojte se me doplnit/opravit
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  00:53:31  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
dalsi vec je ze za pvp honor pointy si muzes koupit blue set a pak epic set - ale epic je 2x drazsi nez blue. Proc by nekdo vubec kupoval blue set, kterej je na urovni quest rewardu, kdyz muze setrit rovnou na epic? resp. koupe toho blue setu ho VYRAZNE oddali od zisku toho epickyho
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qsubt
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  01:37:01  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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koupe toho blue setu ho VYRAZNE oddali od zisku toho epickyho


to zni logicky:) ale to VYRAZNE nemusi byt VYRAZNE ale treba jenom vyrazne, za predopkladu, blue za 200, epic za 25000 tokenu:)

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no ohledne AREN je blue blizz post na foru.. nema cenu to prekladat..
pokud sem to pochopil areny budou 70.lvl only a engineering itemy budou zakazadne - to sem ctl jinde uz neivm kde
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The Arena System will do its best to match by gear as closely as possible. There will be some slight leeway to how close people are matched, however, since we don't want people to have to wait too long.

They will be x-realm, however the actual rankings will be based on what is going on within your own realm.

You will not be able to make custom arena matches but you will get to choose your team that you would like to use as well as the alternates that are a part of the team.

Drysc posted some points about the Arena system not too long ago:


* When a player enters an arena battle, all buffs and conjured items are purged/deleted. This is done to ensure no outside buffs or items from members outside of your team are able to be used in an arena battle.
* No consumables other than bandages and conjured items can be used while in the arena. There will be a waiting area similar to the current battlegrounds where players on the team will be able to conjure items and cast buffs.
* Abilities/spells/items with cooldowns longer than 15 minutes cannot be used while in the arena.
* Each arena team will be given a rating, and will be matched up in the arena queue against teams of a similar rating (matching within that specific cross-realm battlegroup). As time progresses the matching system will broaden its search up to a limit if a closely rated team cannot be found.
* Ratings adjustments are made in the same way that ELO ratings adjustments are made. This system works by adjusting each arena team's rating from a specific match based on the rating of the team they are up against. If a team wins against a team of a higher rating, the increase of their arena rating would be much higher than if they had won against a team of a lower rating. This system will help promote players improving their skill and besting teams which may have previously held the top spots.
* At the end of each week, characters receive arena points based on their team's rating. A team must have fought a minimum number of battles for the week, which we have announced as currently set to 10 games. A player must have played in at least 30% of the team's battles that week in order to be eligible to receive arena points. Each eligible player will then receive a fraction of the teams total awarded points to spend on arena rewards.
* Players may spend their points on arena rewards, or save their points until they have enough to get the rewards they desire.
* There is a limit to the number of points a player can stockpile, which is currently planned to be as high as the most expensive item.
* At the end of a season, players on a team are given a title based on their team's relative position on the ladder which will last through the next arena season.
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Cuk0r
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  01:42:26  Show Profile  Send Cuk0r an ICQ Message Send Cuk0r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

dalsi vec je ze za pvp honor pointy si muzes koupit blue set a pak epic set - ale epic je 2x drazsi nez blue. Proc by nekdo vubec kupoval blue set, kterej je na urovni quest rewardu, kdyz muze setrit rovnou na epic? resp. koupe toho blue setu ho VYRAZNE oddali od zisku toho epickyho



aby lide newhinovali ze nemaju moznost si kupit blue set. Ya rly!
Su ludia ktori hraju pre fun a naozaj len hodinku kazdy druhy den s kamosom takze aj pre nich je aspon daco.

Ale uz som stretol manzelsky parik v bg, kde pan manzel bol r13

edit : arena rating je dolezity pre vypocet bodov ktore ziskaju timy aj tiez v tom aby dobre grupy hrali proti dobrym grupam(skill+gearimbalance reduction). Je nefer aby new grupa v modrom stretla ostrielanych ludi vo fialovom.

Podpisy su pre magorov.

Edited by - Cuk0r on 26/10/2006 01:47:43
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qsubt
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  01:57:43  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
toto neni blue post, ale v podstate to potvrdilo to co sem si myslel... o tom jak to bude fungovat si ted nedokazu predstavit ale doufam ze jo... happy reading:
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ve zkratce receno, v arenach nepujde o pocet W ale o pomer W a L, pricemz to bude vybirat podobne silne teamy proti sobe ===> par rpvnich tydnu pujde pomerne lehce ziskat hodne bodu ale casem jak ladder oddeli "zrno od plev" to bude tezsi a tezsi, proto si myslim ze skutecne v PVP epicu lvl70 nebude behat kazdy... nebo se nekde pletu?
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What the Blue is trying to explain is how the rating system will work in practice....
This is the ELO - system as used in chess.

A rating is often valued between 0 and 3000 in chess, and that's probably why he took 1500 as an example.

How the system works, is that you with the help of YOUR rating and your opponents rating can figure out a logic chance to WIN for either part.... THe system will of course pair teams that will have a close rating to eachother as possible...

Ok, I don't know the excact formulas for this, as they have probably used some other numbers...
BUt let's say My Team is ranked at 2100 and the opposing team is at 2043... By using this formula, My team would get let's say a 57,6% chance to win... :P If it was possible to draw in a game, that would be a 50% score, meaning that my team's rank would fall by a very little (57,6% was expected), since we performed WORSE THAN EXPECTED. THat's the whole basis around it.

Now, if you want a PHAT rank, that means you must continue beating stronger, and stronger teams all the time... IF you are THAT good, then you deserve more Arena tokens...

Now, the big question is... Will rating carry over from week to week so that teams can just work their way up and rest there (while gaining an insane amount of Tokens), or will it reset (1500)?
EDIT: I read it... Each team's ratings will not reset, but to gain tokens for a given week, the team MUST participate in 10 arena fight each week.

Also remember that there is a reason that the tokens gained are not linear with rating...
In the Chess world f.ex. 2000 rating is of a master, while 1500 is of a club player. It is a huge difference.

I can't wait for the values when the PvP-shmarties get their hands on some numbers from beta (if they can).


I have also made a rating system that I think would work nicely for the Arena system, although I think this sums it up :) both are obviously based on ELO.




EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

Edited by - qsubt on 26/10/2006 02:01:06
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  09:38:31  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
s ELO ratingem uz se setkal asi kazdej (prvne ho blizzard pouzil na ladderu ve starcraftu)

quote:
At the end of each week, characters receive arena points based on their team's rating. A team must have fought a minimum number of battles for the week, which we have announced as currently set to 10 games. A player must have played in at least 30% of the team's battles that week in order to be eligible to receive arena points. Each eligible player will then receive a fraction of the teams total awarded points to spend on arena rewards.


tohle rozhodne nebude casual_players_friendly ;)
se svyma casovyma moznostma, kdy sice muzu hrat treba 40h tejdne (coz mi ted stacilo na rank11), ale bohuzel v dobe, kdy zadnej teammate nehraje, nebo alespon ne pravidelne, budu asi docela v (_|_)
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  09:44:03  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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When a player enters an arena battle, all buffs and conjured items are purged/deleted.

to budou magove nonstop varit vodu a warlockove farmit shardy uz jen kvuli healthstonum
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qsubt
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  12:52:15  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

tohle rozhodne nebude casual_players_friendly ;)
se svyma casovyma moznostma, kdy sice muzu hrat treba 40h tejdne (coz mi ted stacilo na rank11), ale bohuzel v dobe, kdy zadnej teammate nehraje, nebo alespon ne pravidelne



to mne unikla pointa,
- tak si musis zalozit team s lidma se kteryma mas spolecny gametime (online stav). je nesmysl narvat se do teamu kde se myjite v online stavech.

- a muzete hrat jenom nezbytne minimum zapasu, kdyz budete jenom vyhravat, budete met lepsi rating nez teamy co oderaji 20x vic zapasu s bilanci 75%W

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podle mne vic user friendly nez soucasna farma v BG. Akorat v arene daleko vic nastvou disconnecty.
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muj cas je takovej, ze muzu treba v pracovni den dopoledne, nekdy vecer, nekdy o vikendy - proste HODNE nepravidelne, ale ve vysledku to da treba 40hodin/tyden (coz uz moc casual neni), na to aby se mi zapocital rating toho teamu musim odehrat alespon 30% zapasu teamu, coz znamena, ze bud ja budu brzdit zbytek teamu nebo oni nahrajou vic a ja dostanu prt... nehlede na to, ze je pro me temer nemozny sehnat si partaka co ma cas podobne jako ja - proto treba u farmeni honoru to neni problem - sem v pvp guilde, mam 40 guild mates, dycky se jich 9 najde na WSG a nemusi to byt porad ti samy, pripadne na drakthulu se hral nejakej pofiderni honor-farming-PuG, ve kterym se stridalo mozna 50 ruznejch lidi behem tydne, ale porad neco bezelo ;)
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Originally posted by qsubt




ty jsi predbehl dobu dokonce natolik, ze mas misto threadu threat, nejen ze mas skvely odhad hry ale jsi i jazykozpytcem a vis kam kraci anglictina

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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

muj cas je takovej, ze muzu treba v pracovni den dopoledne, nekdy vecer, nekdy o vikendy - proste HODNE nepravidelne, ale ve vysledku to da treba 40hodin/tyden (coz uz moc casual neni), na to aby se mi zapocital rating toho teamu musim odehrat alespon 30% zapasu teamu, coz znamena, ze bud ja budu brzdit zbytek teamu nebo oni nahrajou vic a ja dostanu prt... nehlede na to, ze je pro me temer nemozny sehnat si partaka co ma cas podobne jako ja - proto treba u farmeni honoru to neni problem - sem v pvp guilde, mam 40 guild mates, dycky se jich 9 najde na WSG a nemusi to byt porad ti samy, pripadne na drakthulu se hral nejakej pofiderni honor-farming-PuG, ve kterym se stridalo mozna 50 ruznejch lidi behem tydne, ale porad neco bezelo ;)

Mno nemel byt problem si najit par lidi kteri hrajou podobne casto jako ty,navic 30% her neni tak moc...

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quote:
Originally posted by Pertha

quote:
Originally posted by qsubt




ty jsi predbehl dobu dokonce natolik, ze mas misto threadu threat, nejen ze mas skvely odhad hry ale jsi i jazykozpytcem a vis kam kraci anglictina


klasicky post by pertha:]Te zase nekdo nasral, ze nekoho drbes jak pise:]

Mé dílo jsem Já, kdo jej neuznává, neuznává mě.
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  16:13:21  Show Profile  Send Gorog an ICQ Message Send Gorog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nejak se mi to nechce cist. Budou dva typy itemu. Normal honor, ktere se zlepsi na level 70 a ty budou za zabijeni lidi proste jen tak a nebude to ubyvat. Uz ted na bete jde jit do OG a kouknout se jak ty veci budou vypadat.

A druhej bude arena -ladder, kterej bude oddelen a za nej budou body na lpesi pvp veci. Tzn. muzete si jet v klidku ab av wsg kdyz budete chtit a pak si koupit nejake veci.
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  17:11:36  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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ty jsi predbehl dobu dokonce natolik, ze mas misto threadu threat, nejen ze mas skvely odhad hry ale jsi i jazykozpytcem a vis kam kraci anglictina


omlouvam se, nejsem rodily cech a anglictinu se ucim/neucim pouze systemem skola-hrou.

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

muj cas je takovej, ze muzu treba v pracovni den dopoledne, nekdy vecer, nekdy o vikendy - proste HODNE nepravidelne, ale ve vysledku to da treba 40hodin/tyden (coz uz moc casual neni), na to aby se mi zapocital rating toho teamu musim odehrat alespon 30% zapasu teamu, coz znamena, ze bud ja budu brzdit zbytek teamu nebo oni nahrajou vic a ja dostanu prt... nehlede na to, ze je pro me temer nemozny sehnat si partaka co ma cas podobne jako ja - proto treba u farmeni honoru to neni problem - sem v pvp guilde, mam 40 guild mates, dycky se jich 9 najde na WSG a nemusi to byt porad ti samy, pripadne na drakthulu se hral nejakej pofiderni honor-farming-PuG, ve kterym se stridalo mozna 50 ruznejch lidi behem tydne, ale porad neco bezelo ;)



taky muzes udelat team pro 2vs2, v tom teamu budete jenom 2, a zapasove minimum splnis urcite, protoze budes muset byt v kazdem zapase:) a to minimum muzete dat behem 1-2 dnu.

a ohledne gametimu, no ja mam obdobny problem, ktery mne znemoznuje chodit raidy... a to je v podstate offline stav mezi 14-22 a pokud to neni uplny offline tak stav s mnoha AFK, tudiz nic pro raidy, v zivote jsem nebyl v MC BWL nebo AQ40, protoze kdyz se chodi takove veci, je potreba hoodne lidi online a jaksi logicke je ze se kvuli detem a pracujicim delnikum musi zacinat kolem 17.30 aby to koncilo v rozumnou dobu.
Tudiz doufam ze v TBC budou nejake pekne instance pro 5-10-15 lidi, kde nebude az takovy problem ty lidi najit na gametime 7-14 nebo 22+
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  17:15:40  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
coz o to 2v2 team ze dvou lidi zni pekne, ale tim bych kompletne blokoval arena aktivity svyho spolecnika :) no nic, sem s tim vicemene smiren, budu si hrat jak to pujde a pak si holt koupim nakej char s gladiator setem na ebay :)
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Gurrshael
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  17:55:22  Show Profile  Send Gurrshael an ICQ Message Send Gurrshael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

coz o to 2v2 team ze dvou lidi zni pekne, ale tim bych kompletne blokoval arena aktivity svyho spolecnika :) no nic, sem s tim vicemene smiren, budu si hrat jak to pujde a pak si holt koupim nakej char s gladiator setem na ebay :)



Tvůj společník může být přihlášený ještě do 3v3 a 5v5, takže arénu si užije do sytosti.
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Marigold
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  18:13:35  Show Profile Send Marigold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jestli se nemýlím tak v týmu může být dvakrát tolik hráčů než je kapacita arény, tj v 2x2 týmu můžou být čtyři lidi co se střídaj.
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Cuk0r
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  18:28:16  Show Profile  Send Cuk0r an ICQ Message Send Cuk0r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

Tvůj společník může být přihlášený ještě do 3v3 a 5v5, takže arénu si užije do sytosti.


Moze aj PvE raidovat

Podpisy su pre magorov.
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qsubt
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  21:40:45  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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gladiator setem


to sou nejake 70. lvl sety? jsou nekde screenshoty?
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  21:44:42  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by qsubt

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
gladiator setem


to sou nejake 70. lvl sety? jsou nekde screenshoty?


http://bcspy.bc.funpic.de/index.php?categoryid=33
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Cuk0r
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Posted - 26/10/2006 :  23:44:20  Show Profile  Send Cuk0r an ICQ Message Send Cuk0r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ach jo, preco som zrovna zobral hybrida T_T
budem sa musiet 2x snazit aby som ziskal oba sety
omg ja chcem dalsi setovy bonus a to takto : Decrease price of arena items by 25%!

Podpisy su pre magorov.
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Posted - 27/10/2006 :  12:39:50  Show Profile  Send JerzeeG an ICQ Message Send JerzeeG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Speh

quote:
Originally posted by Pertha

quote:
Originally posted by qsubt




ty jsi predbehl dobu dokonce natolik, ze mas misto threadu threat, nejen ze mas skvely odhad hry ale jsi i jazykozpytcem a vis kam kraci anglictina


klasicky post by pertha:]Te zase nekdo nasral, ze nekoho drbes jak pise:]


nahodou skvely joke

Jerzee <Mor do Kuli>
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 30/10/2006 :  16:10:59  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1017
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 01/11/2006 :  10:24:46  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BM hunter video v TBC - 2x BM hunter v arene = pet overkill
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1087141800381061209
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Mefisto
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Posted - 01/11/2006 :  11:34:13  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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BM hunter video v TBC - 2x BM hunter v arene = pet overkill
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1087141800381061209


beast within nerfnou behem jednoho patche po vydani BC:) tim sem si vcelku jistej

"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play."
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beldor5
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Posted - 01/11/2006 :  17:25:58  Show Profile  Send beldor5 an ICQ Message Send beldor5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
imho v 2vs2 budou mnohem horsi kombinace nez 2xBM hunter.ti jdou jeste celkem v poho zvladnout....maj problem v tom ze BF musej zapnout jeste pred bojem.blinkne jim tam mag, hodi na jednoho instasheep a "takovy sme byli"...

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 01/11/2006 :  18:42:37  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by beldor5

imho v 2vs2 budou mnohem horsi kombinace nez 2xBM hunter.ti jdou jeste celkem v poho zvladnout....maj problem v tom ze BF musej zapnout jeste pred bojem.blinkne jim tam mag, hodi na jednoho instasheep a "takovy sme byli"...


toho maga sezerou peti a instant ma jen jeden a ten zrovna vypatlal
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beldor5
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Posted - 01/11/2006 :  18:52:42  Show Profile  Send beldor5 an ICQ Message Send beldor5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by MegaDeath

quote:
Originally posted by beldor5

imho v 2vs2 budou mnohem horsi kombinace nez 2xBM hunter.ti jdou jeste celkem v poho zvladnout....maj problem v tom ze BF musej zapnout jeste pred bojem.blinkne jim tam mag, hodi na jednoho instasheep a "takovy sme byli"...


toho maga sezerou peti a instant ma jen jeden a ten zrovna vypatlal

mno jde o to ze jak toho druhyho huntera shepnes tak je to 1vs2. a pokud dva magove nejsou schopni behem 10sec zabit 1 huntera tak jsou to lamy...

i kdyby ten sheep nestihnul tak da dva instanty a pak kostku.pocka si az BF spadne a pak uz budou hunteri easy kill(nemaj ani SS)

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http://volby.kategorie.cz/
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 07/11/2006 :  21:17:20  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
- Arena team ranking system: As it uses a rating system that can punish you for losing to teams worse than you, most players are going to play their minimum 10 games, see how they stand, and decide whether they're feeling lucky and want to gamble being at a worse standing by fighting another team, and so on and so forth. It's a system that actually discourages grinding, so again, please feel free to locate information on something before commenting.

- Week: At the end of each week (maintenance day) your team's standing is calculated and arena points are distributed. The arena points can then be saved or spent on rewards.
- Season: Each season lasts three months, and at the end of a season cool status/cosmetic-only prizes are handed out to the top teams, and if needed we can add new rewards so that the arena is keeping up with any new PvE items we've released.
That's it, arena points aren't wiped, the season is simply a time for us to recognize the top performing teams and also possibly add some new rewards.

- Arena rankings level requirement: Rated arena matches are only available at level 70. Pre-70 you can play in arena skirmishes which only reward you with honor points as you're just killing doodz. You can also enter skirmish matches at 70 for practice, or if you just aren't on a team.

- Teams are matched based on their standing, so in general the best teams are going to be match against other 'best teams'. However, the system still allows for everyone else to work towards high-end rewards at the pace their abilities allow them to. Will you work at your PvP skill and move up in rank week after week, or will you flounder about at the bottom?
The arenas are a place for those that want to use their PvP abilities to gain high-end rewards to do so, and while everyone can participate and work towards their goals, everyone should be working on improving their skill and earning those rewards.

- There are no individual player ranks in the arena system that the rewards could even be limited by, if such a thing existed. The only thing I can think of that could even be mistaken for a player rank is that you'll earn titles at the end of a season for being in one of the top teams, but it's simply a title and has no bearing on anything but your ability to show off how much of a bad ass you are.
Even if you're consistently in the worst arena team on your realm you'll still be able to accumulate arena points and eventually be able to purchase rewards, it's just going to take you a really long time.

- You get an equal portion of the team's arena points at the end of the week as long as you participated in at least 30% of the games the team played. If you really want to participate in the arena system and work towards the rewards then you're probably not going to want to sit on a team charter as an alternate. The alternate spots are really just there so the team doesn't have to kick anyone if someone isn't able to play for a week; they can just invite someone to fill in for a short time.

Q: Also, if there are only 2 people in my 2v2 team roster, and one disconnects/afk's, do i forfeit the game and get a mark against me?

A: If both players die or leave the game world you would lose the match. You can't hot swap members into the match regardless of who's on the roster.

Q: Also, do different level brackets have their own fighting systems? you said that the 'best teams' will play against other 'best teams', so does this mean a good lvl 30 team would be playing against a bad lvl 40 team?

A: What I was referring to were ranked teams at level 70 being paired up based on their team's standing. In the case of skirmishes there are level brackets players will be paired up by similar to the battlegrounds. The arena skirmish level brackets are actually divided by every five levels as opposed to every 10 like in the battlegrounds (60-64, 65-69, 70, and of course all the levels below those).

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44856708&sid=1&pageNo=1
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qsubt
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Posted - 08/11/2006 :  21:50:08  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by MegaDeath


i kdyz nekdo pojede na minimalni pocet zaapsu a chce spolehat na to, ze system nejak osali, tak se tak nestane, par prvnich tydnu se to vyselektuje, a dotycni keri sou treba prumerni a za 3 tydny odehrali 30 zapasu z nichz napr 26 vyhrali, uz budou ve 4 tydnu nastupovat proti pobne silnym teamum (dle win%) a najednou week4 muzou zacat s bilanci 0-6.

to ze se konecne nejakym zpusobem zvyhodni kvalita nad kvantitou je jedine dobre, pokud je nekdo dobry tak at si klidne hraje jenom 10 zapasu tydne, soucasna bg honor farma v premade teamech je k smichu nebo spis k placi?:). A prodavani mist v techto teamech jakbysmet:)

Edited by - qsubt on 08/11/2006 21:50:51
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  13:19:57  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote

ta hul je krasna :)
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