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Kostik
Starting Member
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 Posted - 04/02/2005 : 16:56:18
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Pastujte sem svoje nazory na shamanovy talenty, ja sem ted zkusil nuke-1h+shield shamana, v korejsky bete se mi v PVP dost osvedcil...ovsem jen do 38 lvl
Enhancement Mastery
Shield Specialization Rank 5
Thundering Strikes Rank 5
Improved Ghost Wolf Rank 2
Improved Lightning Shield Rank 3
Flurry Rank 5
Parry Rank 1
Improved Frostbrand Weapon Rank 2
Improved Windfury Weapon Rank 2
Toughness Rank 5
Improved Grounding Totem Rank 1
Stormstrike Rank 1
Improved Grace of Air Totem Rank 3
Enhancement Total: 35
Elemental Mastery
Concussion Rank 5
Convection Rank 5
Elemental Focus Rank 1
Reverberation Rank 5
Elemental Total: 16
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Colldor
Gimp
2165 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 16:59:25
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Kostik
Starting Member
24 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 17:09:59
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taky nazor ;) |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 17:27:38
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Originally posted by Kostik
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Originally posted by Colldor
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taky nazor ;)
no jeden tkaovej topic tu uz vytvorenej je, to to asi melo znamenat |
"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play." |
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Kostik
Starting Member
24 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 17:29:54
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Originally posted by Mefisto
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Originally posted by Kostik
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Originally posted by Colldor
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taky nazor ;)
no jeden tkaovej topic tu uz vytvorenej je, to to asi melo znamenat
no a nepletlo by se to trochu kdyby se placalo v jednom topicu o warriorovi i shamanovi? |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 17:47:59
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Originally posted by Kostik
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Originally posted by Mefisto
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Originally posted by Kostik
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Originally posted by Colldor
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taky nazor ;)
no jeden tkaovej topic tu uz vytvorenej je, to to asi melo znamenat
no a nepletlo by se to trochu kdyby se placalo v jednom topicu o warriorovi i shamanovi?
mluvim o tomhle http://www.imperium.cz/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14049 topicu |
"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play." |
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Kostik
Starting Member
24 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 17:50:34
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Originally posted by Mefisto
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Originally posted by Kostik
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Originally posted by Mefisto
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Originally posted by Kostik
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Originally posted by Colldor
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taky nazor ;)
no jeden tkaovej topic tu uz vytvorenej je, to to asi melo znamenat
no a nepletlo by se to trochu kdyby se placalo v jednom topicu o warriorovi i shamanovi?
mluvim o tomhle http://www.imperium.cz/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14049 topicu
aha sorz sem si nevsim :)
smazte tenhle topic teda :) |
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Drizzt
Junior Member
857 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 17:51:57
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Ja jedu Enchant + NS v restoration + zbytek do elemntal(malo), je to nehorazne silne s obourucni zbrani a windfury. Nikdo me jeste nedal v duelu se stejnym levelem... |
AO: Jingei 220/70/30 Doctor [RK1-Cza]
WoW: Jingej 90 Shaman [DT-Black Division]
DDO: Jingej 20 bard/bard/barb/fvs [Thelanis-Boiians]
VG: Jingej Psionicist
GW: Jingej 80 Thief
ESO: Jingej V16 Dragonknight |
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SHIMI
Junior Member
914 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 18:05:47
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podle me je nejlepsi build na pvp tenhle :
Elemental Combat Talents (18 points)
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
Elemental Focus - 1/1 points
Gives you a 10% chance to enter a Clearcasting state after casting any Fire, Frost, or Nature damage spell. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.
Improved Fire Nova Totem - 2/2 points
Reduces the delay before your Fire Nova Totem activates by 2 seconds.
Enhancement Talents (11 points)
Ancestral Knowledge - 5/5 points
Increases your maximum Mana by 5%.
Improved Ghost Wolf - 2/2 points
Reduces the cast time of your Ghost Wolf spell by 2 second.
Improved Lightning Shield - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Lightning Shield orbs by 15%.
Two-Handed Axes and Maces - 1/1 points
Allows you to use Two-Handed Axes and Two-Handed Maces.
Restoration Talents (22 points)
Tidal Focus - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your healing spells by 5%.
Totemic Focus - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your totems by 10%.
Combat Endurance - 1/1 points
Allows 10% of your Health regeneration to work while in combat.
Improved Lesser Healing Wave - 5/5 points
Gives you a 75% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Lesser Healing Wave.
Tidal Mastery - 5/5 points
Increases the critical effect chance of your healing and Nature damage spells by 5%.
Nature's Swiftness - 1/1 points
When activated, your next Nature spell with a casting time less than 10 seconds becomes an instant cast spell.
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i got no time to lose mon, so i prefer having fun in real life ... comprehende ? |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 18:10:00
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Originally posted by SHIMI
podle me je nejlepsi build na pvp tenhle :
Elemental Combat Talents (18 points)
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
Elemental Focus - 1/1 points
Gives you a 10% chance to enter a Clearcasting state after casting any Fire, Frost, or Nature damage spell. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.
Improved Fire Nova Totem - 2/2 points
Reduces the delay before your Fire Nova Totem activates by 2 seconds.
Enhancement Talents (11 points)
Ancestral Knowledge - 5/5 points
Increases your maximum Mana by 5%.
Improved Ghost Wolf - 2/2 points
Reduces the cast time of your Ghost Wolf spell by 2 second.
Improved Lightning Shield - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Lightning Shield orbs by 15%.
Two-Handed Axes and Maces - 1/1 points
Allows you to use Two-Handed Axes and Two-Handed Maces.
Restoration Talents (22 points)
Tidal Focus - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your healing spells by 5%.
Totemic Focus - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your totems by 10%.
Combat Endurance - 1/1 points
Allows 10% of your Health regeneration to work while in combat.
Improved Lesser Healing Wave - 5/5 points
Gives you a 75% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Lesser Healing Wave.
Tidal Mastery - 5/5 points
Increases the critical effect chance of your healing and Nature damage spells by 5%.
Nature's Swiftness - 1/1 points
When activated, your next Nature spell with a casting time less than 10 seconds becomes an instant cast spell.
kdybych se nakonec rozhodl pro shamana
tak si rozhodne neberu ten fire totem a asi uberu z elemental ( 5 a 6 sekund neni tak velkej rozdil )
a misto toho to narvu do flurry a imp windfury
edit : asi nejak takhle
http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Templates.Detail&id=25126
pak sem si mozna uvedomil ze misto lighting shieldu by se dalo dat to zlevneni shocku ( zas tolik dmg to tomu light shieldu neprida
3x 198 (228 s talentem) |
"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play." |
Edited by - Mefisto on 04/02/2005 18:16:02 |
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brutus
Average Member
1833 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 18:13:13
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to co postnul SHIMI je to co jsem tak nejak sepsal ja (asi az na 3 body ;)
co mne stve, je ze char kterej mne bavi asi nejvic na hrani je overpowered a bude ho hrat kazdej druhej ;/ to mne trochu (hodne) odpuzuje - asi si spis udelam nejakyho gimpa a skusim prekvapit ;) |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Drizzt
Junior Member
857 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 18:19:30
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| Ten elemental za to nestoji, nebudete mit moznost tolik vyplacat manu nez to skonci. |
AO: Jingei 220/70/30 Doctor [RK1-Cza]
WoW: Jingej 90 Shaman [DT-Black Division]
DDO: Jingej 20 bard/bard/barb/fvs [Thelanis-Boiians]
VG: Jingej Psionicist
GW: Jingej 80 Thief
ESO: Jingej V16 Dragonknight |
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brutus
Average Member
1833 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 18:21:37
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Ten Elemental je naopak dost klicovej - ta cast stromu:
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
se dava v podstate jen kvuli Reverbation - 1sec dolu z casting time u 3 hlavnich nuku je dost uber - hlavne na interruptovani kouzel. |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 18:24:38
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Originally posted by brutus
Ten Elemental je naopak dost klicovej - ta cast stromu:
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
se dava v podstate jen kvuli Reverbation - 1sec dolu z casting time u 3 hlavnich nuku je dost uber - hlavne na interruptovani kouzel.
me ot tak uber neprijde, stejne shammy je desne mana zavisla postava a shocky desne zerou manu, jediny na co je ten 1s cast time dolu dobrej je interuptovani kouzel nejaky slabym levelem ES, ale nevim, nezda se mi to nejak extreme dulezity |
"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play." |
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Drizzt
Junior Member
857 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 18:59:15
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Originally posted by brutus
Ten Elemental je naopak dost klicovej - ta cast stromu:
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
se dava v podstate jen kvuli Reverbation - 1sec dolu z casting time u 3 hlavnich nuku je dost uber - hlavne na interruptovani kouzel.
Nic na tom neni klicovy, maximalne tak to, ze ti nezustane mana na heal.
Mnohem lepsi je jit do enchantu a zvladnes udelat nekolikrat vetsi dmg a manu davas na heal. |
AO: Jingei 220/70/30 Doctor [RK1-Cza]
WoW: Jingej 90 Shaman [DT-Black Division]
DDO: Jingej 20 bard/bard/barb/fvs [Thelanis-Boiians]
VG: Jingej Psionicist
GW: Jingej 80 Thief
ESO: Jingej V16 Dragonknight |
Edited by - Drizzt on 04/02/2005 19:12:10 |
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Kostik
Starting Member
24 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 19:02:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto
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Originally posted by brutus
Ten Elemental je naopak dost klicovej - ta cast stromu:
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
se dava v podstate jen kvuli Reverbation - 1sec dolu z casting time u 3 hlavnich nuku je dost uber - hlavne na interruptovani kouzel.
me ot tak uber neprijde, stejne shammy je desne mana zavisla postava a shocky desne zerou manu, jediny na co je ten 1s cast time dolu dobrej je interuptovani kouzel nejaky slabym levelem ES, ale nevim, nezda se mi to nejak extreme dulezity
ale mozna to je lepsi jak to nacpat do restoration(kde mi pripada dobre jen Improved Lesser healing wave a nature swiftness)
V elemental stoji za to urcite elemental focus a reverbation... |
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VT
Moderator
4191 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 19:04:58
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Originally posted by brutus
co mne stve, je ze char kterej mne bavi asi nejvic na hrani je overpowered a bude ho hrat kazdej druhej ;/ to mne trochu (hodne) odpuzuje - asi si spis udelam nejakyho gimpa a skusim prekvapit ;)
Shaman je overpowered minimalne od close bety (kdy jsem hral shamana ja) a presto ho nehraje kazdy.
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Drizzt
Junior Member
857 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 19:11:30
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To ze si vyberes shamana, neznamena ze das vsecko na potkani
Te roseka kdokoliv kdyz bude vic zkusenejsi. |
AO: Jingei 220/70/30 Doctor [RK1-Cza]
WoW: Jingej 90 Shaman [DT-Black Division]
DDO: Jingej 20 bard/bard/barb/fvs [Thelanis-Boiians]
VG: Jingej Psionicist
GW: Jingej 80 Thief
ESO: Jingej V16 Dragonknight |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 19:27:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Kostik
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Originally posted by Mefisto
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Originally posted by brutus
Ten Elemental je naopak dost klicovej - ta cast stromu:
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
se dava v podstate jen kvuli Reverbation - 1sec dolu z casting time u 3 hlavnich nuku je dost uber - hlavne na interruptovani kouzel.
me ot tak uber neprijde, stejne shammy je desne mana zavisla postava a shocky desne zerou manu, jediny na co je ten 1s cast time dolu dobrej je interuptovani kouzel nejaky slabym levelem ES, ale nevim, nezda se mi to nejak extreme dulezity
ale mozna to je lepsi jak to nacpat do restoration(kde mi pripada dobre jen Improved Lesser healing wave a nature swiftness)
V elemental stoji za to urcite elemental focus a reverbation...
NS je vcelku klicova abilita, lifesaver |
"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play." |
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Kostik
Starting Member
24 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 20:17:10
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Originally posted by Mefisto
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Originally posted by Kostik
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Originally posted by Mefisto
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Originally posted by brutus
Ten Elemental je naopak dost klicovej - ta cast stromu:
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
se dava v podstate jen kvuli Reverbation - 1sec dolu z casting time u 3 hlavnich nuku je dost uber - hlavne na interruptovani kouzel.
me ot tak uber neprijde, stejne shammy je desne mana zavisla postava a shocky desne zerou manu, jediny na co je ten 1s cast time dolu dobrej je interuptovani kouzel nejaky slabym levelem ES, ale nevim, nezda se mi to nejak extreme dulezity
ale mozna to je lepsi jak to nacpat do restoration(kde mi pripada dobre jen Improved Lesser healing wave a nature swiftness)
V elemental stoji za to urcite elemental focus a reverbation...
NS je vcelku klicova abilita, lifesaver
je to dobrej talent, ale myslim ze se nevyplati si kvuli ni vyplacat hodne talentu nez se k nemu dostanes...to to radsi nacpu do enhancement kde windfurry+flurry+velky critical dela svoje...kdyz uz de do tuhyho chlastam lahve a pak lecim :) |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 20:47:11
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Originally posted by Kostik
nesouhlasim, jedinej talent na kterej v enhanc nedosahnu sou ty 30points spent tj stormspike kterej za az tak zavratnej boost nepovazuju a pak grace of air totem ktery se taky imho nevyplati
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elemental tree je vcelku k nicemu protoze healing spelly maji mnohem vyssi pomery hp/mana a snare/break spellu zajistis i tim nejnizsim shockem, v enhance tree mas navic navic docela zajimavy veci jako imp ground totem, imp windfurry, flurry
a kdyz k tomu prictes ns z restoration tree + vetsi sance na kritik healu, combat endurance, zvyseni rychlosti healing wave ( PvE ), sance na mensi break lesser healing wavu, nevim zkratka se mi snad az na convection, elem focus a mozna reverbation nic nelibi a rozhodne to nevyvazi klady ktery clovek ziska v enh/rest tree
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"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play." |
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Kostik
Starting Member
24 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 21:34:15
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no je to udelane tak aby shaman nemel oboji, storm strike i nature swiftness. Ja radsi rychle zabijim nez aby to trvalo dlouho a musim se lecit, proto si myslim ze storm strike je celkem klicovy. A kdyz chci storm strike tak nemuzu mit NS,tak to radsi soupnu do elemental vetve...uvazuju i o soupnuti talentu do fire nova totemu, preci jen ten cooldown uz je pak dost minimalni...
combat endurance je hodne zbytecnej talent, rychlost healing wave mi prijde dost minimalni, v pvp to je o nacasovani kouzleni spis...v restoration mi fakt prijde ze dobre je jen NS a improved lesser...
v tom sou talenty bozi, muzu mit 3 rozdilny shamany |
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Marigold
Senior Member
3590 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2005 : 01:59:10
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Originally posted by brutus
to co postnul SHIMI je to co jsem tak nejak sepsal ja (asi az na 3 body ;)
co mne stve, je ze char kterej mne bavi asi nejvic na hrani je overpowered a bude ho hrat kazdej druhej ;/ to mne trochu (hodne) odpuzuje - asi si spis udelam nejakyho gimpa a skusim prekvapit ;)
Kurňa jako bych to napsal já!  |
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Drizzt
Junior Member
857 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2005 : 16:29:41
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| Shaman bez NS, tj bez velkeho healu v pvp je polovicni shaman. Ale to uvidis az se tam vyplacas a zkusis si oboje varianty, to je ve wow taky vyborne, za par zlataku si pretalentujes postavu, jedina nevyhoda je, ze 2-hand skilly ti spadnou na 0, coz me neskutecne vadi. |
AO: Jingei 220/70/30 Doctor [RK1-Cza]
WoW: Jingej 90 Shaman [DT-Black Division]
DDO: Jingej 20 bard/bard/barb/fvs [Thelanis-Boiians]
VG: Jingej Psionicist
GW: Jingej 80 Thief
ESO: Jingej V16 Dragonknight |
Edited by - Drizzt on 05/02/2005 16:29:59 |
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PRIBOO
Average Member
1602 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2005 : 11:56:02
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Oprasil sem tendle topic ted kdyz je chvilka casu zapremyslet co a jak 
Takze jak si to predstavuju ja:
Rozhodne bych sel do 2h zbrani, rozdil oproti 1h je asi tak 2x vetsi damage a bez stitu naopak 2x vetsi damage urcite nedostavate. On se shaman sice na zacatku nezda, ale jak veme do ruky poradny 2h kladivo tak je z nej mele dealer jako prase.  Navic od 40tyho oblikne chain a to uz mu da jakstaks ceklem slusny defy + pripadne nejaky totemek.
Improved zbrane casty - na zacatku bych pouzival Rockbiter pak kdyz na 20tym vezmu 2h weapon tak Flametongue (bo ma + na pomalejsi attack) a pak je jasna volba Windflury.
Tohle je zhuba build postaveny na mele + shock castech. Totemy sou v PvP na howno pokud neni protivnik naprostej idiot, takze si clovek urcite vystaci s basic variantama pro PvM a kdyz na nejakeho idiota nahodou narazi  .
Heal kouzla - tady docela vaham, v bete sem nestihnul 60lvl takze nemuzu posoudit jestli je Lesser na top levelech dostacujici, bo ma sice kratsi cast ale na nizsich levelech je vysledek Lesser healu oproti normalnimu ponekud tristni. Navic jako Tauren sem si pred castem Healu vzdycky dupnul a bez problemu potom prosel. Takze z Restoration talentu sem dal jen Improved Healing Wave - bo 0.5 sec je docela dost a na lesser heal a zbytek sem se vykaslal zatim.
Proste chci mit dealera a ne healera, na to sou tu jiny povolani takze sem vsechny body narval do damage a snizil akorat cast time u healu coz se mi pro support heal a pro vlastni potreby jevi jako dostacujici zatim (bo spolehat napriklad na 5% sanci crit healu je dost sporna zalezitost ).
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Elemental Combat Talents (22 points)
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
Elemental Focus - 1/1 point
Gives you a 10% chance to enter a Clearcasting state after casting any Fire, Frost, or Nature damage spell. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.
Call of Thunder - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Lightning spells by 6%.
Elemental Fury - 1/1 point
Increases the critical strike damage done by your Fire, Frost, and Nature spells by 100%.
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Enhancement Talents (24 points)
Ancestral Knowledge - 5/5 points
Increases your maximum Mana by 5%.
Thundering Strikes - 5/5 points
Improves your chance to get a critical strike with your weapon attacks by 5%.
Two-Handed Axes and Maces - 1/1 point
Allows you to use Two-Handed Axes and Two-Handed Maces.
Anticipation - 5/5 points
Increases your defense skill by 10.
Flurry - 5/5 points
Increases your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike.
Parry - 1/1 point
Gives a chance to parry melee attacks.
Improved Windfury Weapon - 2/2 points
Increases the Attack Power bonus of your Windfury Weapon effect by ?.
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Restoration Talents (5 points)
Improved Healing Wave - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Healing Wave spell by 0.5 seconds.
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Drizzt
Junior Member
857 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2005 : 12:28:40
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Shaman bez NS, a 75% sance na nepreruseni healu...nechces si vzit radsi maga na ten dmg?
edit: Jinak totemy sou napriklad proti roguemu dost podstatna vec. Vsude sou totemy dost smrtici pokud je umis pouzivat.
Jinak ten build cos tu napsal, mi pripada dost pokulhavajici, teda pokdu furt nemas za zadkem priesta co te bude healit.
Imho to je velmi spatnej build. |
AO: Jingei 220/70/30 Doctor [RK1-Cza]
WoW: Jingej 90 Shaman [DT-Black Division]
DDO: Jingej 20 bard/bard/barb/fvs [Thelanis-Boiians]
VG: Jingej Psionicist
GW: Jingej 80 Thief
ESO: Jingej V16 Dragonknight |
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PRIBOO
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Posted - 08/02/2005 : 12:41:09
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Takze to vypada ze me pochybnosti ohledne healu byly opodstatnene?
Me zkusenosti se shamanem konci nekde u 30tyho levelu, takze se velmi rad necemu priucim .
Hod sem build podle tvych predstav.
Btw. netvrdim ze sou totemy na nic, to spatne vyznelo. Myslel jsem tim spis ze ty talenty na totemy nejsou nic moc.
Jako timpadem pokud jsou tyhle 2 veci nutnosti taku pak na nejake moc velke hrani si s buildem nema smysl. Vicemene to pak zbyva neco podobnyho jako postoval Shimi o par postu nize. |
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Drizzt
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Posted - 08/02/2005 : 15:03:25
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Tyhle dve schopnosti jsou velice nutne. Na vysokem levlu tak sundas elite se stejnym ci vyssim levlem. na 57 jsem sundal 59 elite demona,ale poprve jsem umrel. Bez insta healu a neprerusovaneho healu to samozrejmne nikdy nezvladnes. To jen tak pro priklad.
Tato vetev je dost nutna a je to zaklad pro budouciho velice dobreho shamana,kterej chce ustat nekolik nizsich hracu v pvp ci prezit 5 potvor stejneho levlu na solo.
Dal si rozhazis body do elemental ci enchant.
Ja mam enchant, je to pro hrace co nechce utikat od melee postav v pvp. Postavis se jim a nikdo te v souboji tvari v tvar jen tak lehce neporazi(manu mas na shocky a heal),pokud nemas talenty v heal stromu, s nakym healem v pvp ani nepocitej.
Elemental, aby se ti to vubec vyplatilo, znamena v praxi ze das vic dmg na dalku za naky interval,ale za chvili si bez many(ses na to specializocvanej, dat vic shocku za nakou dobu, lightingy, procenta na free shock ale v zavislotsti na tom,ze co nejvic hazis shocky), to nikdy neni dobry a ta trocha dmg za to nestoji, ale nekomu se to zamlova, tak do toho jde,kdyz nekoho takoveho dueluju, jsem jenom rad:p.
Jinak priestu je opravdu malo, takze ve vetsine pripadu budes hlavnim healerem v high instancich. Ted rano jsem byl Black rock spire a jedinej healer jsem byl ja jako shaman a dali jsme to, takze muzes cekat ze jako od shamana,se po tobe bude chtit healovat a to dost.
V podstate je ten heal vic nez potrebnej, a jestli enchant ci elemental..to uz je na jednotlivim hraci co chce hrat radsi.
Edit: talenty na totemy jsou opravdu na nic, jen na reduce many je dobrej. |
AO: Jingei 220/70/30 Doctor [RK1-Cza]
WoW: Jingej 90 Shaman [DT-Black Division]
DDO: Jingej 20 bard/bard/barb/fvs [Thelanis-Boiians]
VG: Jingej Psionicist
GW: Jingej 80 Thief
ESO: Jingej V16 Dragonknight |
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Drizzt
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Posted - 08/02/2005 : 15:17:46
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| Jinak presvedcovani asi nestaci, tahle hra je super v tom, ze si to sam muzes vyzkouset a pretalentovat. Doporucuju:p |
AO: Jingei 220/70/30 Doctor [RK1-Cza]
WoW: Jingej 90 Shaman [DT-Black Division]
DDO: Jingej 20 bard/bard/barb/fvs [Thelanis-Boiians]
VG: Jingej Psionicist
GW: Jingej 80 Thief
ESO: Jingej V16 Dragonknight |
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brutus
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Posted - 08/02/2005 : 15:39:08
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| U Samana je blby (nebo dobry - zalezi na uhlu pohledu ;) , ze nemuze mit najednou Nature's Swiftness a Stormstrike.... protoze Stormstrike + Improved Windfurry weapon + Flurry s obourucni sekerou je masakr desneho kalibru ;) |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Drizzt
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Posted - 08/02/2005 : 15:42:53
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I bez toho stormstrike je to masakr.
btw co to presne dela v praxi, dava 1 utok navic kazdych 25 sec? |
AO: Jingei 220/70/30 Doctor [RK1-Cza]
WoW: Jingej 90 Shaman [DT-Black Division]
DDO: Jingej 20 bard/bard/barb/fvs [Thelanis-Boiians]
VG: Jingej Psionicist
GW: Jingej 80 Thief
ESO: Jingej V16 Dragonknight |
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SHIMI
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PRIBOO
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SHIMI
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Posted - 08/02/2005 : 18:40:39
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Originally posted by PRIBOO
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Originally posted by SHIMI
tady je vytazek s jednoho Guidu pro Shamany kerej stoji asi 20 dolacu
http://www.gameguidesonline.com/guides/MasteringTheWorldofWarcraftShamanExcerpt.zip
To snad vopsali z oficialniho webu ne? Kdo za takovydle cancy vysoli 20$ musi byt uplnej magor
Mastering the World of Warcraft Shaman is only $19.99, includes free updates, and is immediately available upon purchase!
Mastering the World of Warcraft Shaman is 42 pages dedicated to shaman strategy.
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i got no time to lose mon, so i prefer having fun in real life ... comprehende ? |
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PRIBOO
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Posted - 08/02/2005 : 18:47:30
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Jo ten odkaz je na prvnich 11 stranek, je to psany pismem velikosti tak 50mm a na prvnich 5ti stranach je obrazek shamana v ruznych pozicich. Konci to tim ze mas Light bolta a Heal wave a ze boltem strilis a healem se healujes ...
To sou podle me dost uber tipy, asi vycaluju 20$ a poskladam si uber shamyho .
I kdyz ono se da lidem prodat cokoli, nekde jsem cetl ze nakej manik si delal rano snidani, vytahl toust z toustovace a na toustu nasel vypalenou hlavu Jezise. Tak nelenil a toust strelil na nejake onlie aukci za 30 000$. Tomu rikam biznis jako delo. |
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Dixie_pixie
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Posted - 26/12/2005 : 21:41:19
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Zdravím všechny :-)
Rád bych si založil šamana na normal servru a rád bych znal vaše postřehy v souboji s potvorama (pvp mě nezajímá). Popřípadně poradit jaký bild je na potvory dobrý (hrál bych sám takže spíše něco abych něco zabil) popřípadně poradit jaké věci jsou pro šamana dobrý a nějáké rady na způsob boje :-). Jo a abych nezapomněl jakou rasu si mám vzít šamana? Předem děkuji za odpovědi :-) |
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Kořka
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Posted - 26/12/2005 : 23:40:51
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Originally posted by Dixie_pixie
Zdravím všechny :-)
Rád bych si založil šamana na normal servru a rád bych znal vaše postřehy v souboji s potvorama (pvp mě nezajímá). Popřípadně poradit jaký bild je na potvory dobrý (hrál bych sám takže spíše něco abych něco zabil) popřípadně poradit jaké věci jsou pro šamana dobrý a nějáké rady na způsob boje :-). Jo a abych nezapomněl jakou rasu si mám vzít šamana? Předem děkuji za odpovědi :-)
Já teda shamanům moc nerozumím, ale jel bych Enhancement... WF is teh shit. No ale já bych ti spíš chtěl poděkovat, protože to je snad poprvé co vidím někoho aby napsal svůj první post do pomalu rok starého topicu... Jakože sis dal tu práci a dal search.
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GORTHAUR
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Posted - 27/12/2005 : 05:48:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Dixie_pixie
Zdravím všechny :-)
Rád bych si založil šamana na normal servru a rád bych znal vaše postřehy v souboji s potvorama (pvp mě nezajímá). Popřípadně poradit jaký bild je na potvory dobrý (hrál bych sám takže spíše něco abych něco zabil) popřípadně poradit jaké věci jsou pro šamana dobrý a nějáké rady na způsob boje :-). Jo a abych nezapomněl jakou rasu si mám vzít šamana? Předem děkuji za odpovědi :-)
Pokud te nezajima PvP tak si vem rasu jakou chces, pokud si myslis ze by te po case mohlo zacit zajimat tak si vem taurena kvuli war sotompu na spell interruption, jinak je to celkem jedno. PvE shaman na solo enhancemnt/resto, do grupy resto/enhancement a do PvP elemental/resto ftw! ;) |
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Dixie_pixie
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Posted - 27/12/2005 : 10:17:33
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Mno enchancement/resto jak? :-) mohl by někdo napsat jak nejlíp (na kterém levelu co?) Nerad bych něco skazil protože jsem slyšel že se platí ošklivý peníze za předělání :-). Ještě jaký zbraně používat na sólo popřípadně nějáký tipy na zabíjení :-) rád uvítám cokoliv :-)
to Kořka: Já nejdřív přečet všechno o šamanch bohužel se to tu točí jen okolo pvp :-) což mi moc nevyhovuje :-) |
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Eagle
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Posted - 27/12/2005 : 10:30:10
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Originally posted by Dixie_pixie
Mno enchancement/resto jak? :-) mohl by někdo napsat jak nejlíp (na kterém levelu co?) Nerad bych něco skazil protože jsem slyšel že se platí ošklivý peníze za předělání :-). Ještě jaký zbraně používat na sólo popřípadně nějáký tipy na zabíjení :-) rád uvítám cokoliv :-)
to Kořka: Já nejdřív přečet všechno o šamanch bohužel se to tu točí jen okolo pvp :-) což mi moc nevyhovuje :-)
pvp je tady pro lidi zaklad ... podle toho vybiraji talenty i vybaveni ... ono na pve to vypada uplne jinak
nejlepsi je si talnety vyzkouset ... zas tak velky penize ten respec nestoji pokud to nedelas moz casto ... je to 1g, 5g, 10g a tak +5g kazdej dalsi respec ... az to bude 50g tak uz to bude celkem drahy ale mount stoji 1000g takze to neni tak horky :)
na levelu 20 muzes mit klidne 10g ... takze to tam proste bouchej jak te napadne a uvidis ... nejlepsi rozhodnuti udelas na zaklade vlastni zkusenosti ... kdyz to tam nabouchas podle nejakyho templatu tak to sice budes mit "dobre" ale vubec nebudes vedet v cem je ta sila budes proste mit jen talenty
no vybaveni ti ja neporadim ... sem mag a zatim bych sam potreboval rady :)
ale jednu radu ti dam ... na solo se to neda hrat ... nebo da ale je to takovy placaty pak ... sezen si nekoho aspon jednoho s kym muzes pocitat je celkem jedno jaky ma povolani ... skloubit se da vsechno dulezity je aby byl na stejny strane barikady :) |
UO, SWG, WoW, EVE, DF, LoL
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Reyden
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Posted - 27/12/2005 : 12:40:18
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| mrkni se do meho podpisu na talenty .. na pve to je tak akurat, Nature swiftness je super pokud se potrebujes rychle vylecit, zbytek uz pak nafrkej do bojovych abilit (vylepseni windfury apd.) |
Zenová povídka: Putuji takhle Severní Koreou a najednou potkám Gurrshaela a Pompa držíce se za ruce řkouce "Ano pane Reydene ... až tady jsme zjistili, že jsme míň než ta krabice u cesty ... vyhrál jsi, Ty jsi víc!". Usmál jsem se a odvětil jim: "Od té doby co nemám žádný cíl, už nebloudím!" |
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Dixie_pixie
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Posted - 27/12/2005 : 18:07:03
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quote:
Originally posted by Reyden
mrkni se do meho podpisu na talenty .. na pve to je tak akurat, Nature swiftness je super pokud se potrebujes rychle vylecit, zbytek uz pak nafrkej do bojovych abilit (vylepseni windfury apd.)
Prosím můžeš mi dát link něják jsem to tu nenašel :o)
Jo jinak jaký staty jsou dobrý pro šamana? |
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Reyden
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Posted - 27/12/2005 : 18:46:51
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Originally posted by Dixie_pixie
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Originally posted by Reyden
mrkni se do meho podpisu na talenty .. na pve to je tak akurat, Nature swiftness je super pokud se potrebujes rychle vylecit, zbytek uz pak nafrkej do bojovych abilit (vylepseni windfury apd.)
Prosím můžeš mi dát link něják jsem to tu nenašel :o)
Jo jinak jaký staty jsou dobrý pro šamana?
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?70225
jinak shanej "of eagle" veci .. primarne intelect a staminu ... |
Zenová povídka: Putuji takhle Severní Koreou a najednou potkám Gurrshaela a Pompa držíce se za ruce řkouce "Ano pane Reydene ... až tady jsme zjistili, že jsme míň než ta krabice u cesty ... vyhrál jsi, Ty jsi víc!". Usmál jsem se a odvětil jim: "Od té doby co nemám žádný cíl, už nebloudím!" |
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Dixie_pixie
Starting Member
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Posted - 27/12/2005 : 22:27:30
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| Tak děkuju pěkně :-) |
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Dibone
Starting Member
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Posted - 19/07/2006 : 17:33:19
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Zajimalo by me, jestli enchant na zrychleni mounta funguje i na wolf formu a pokud ne, tak jestli se da jeste necim zrychlit, krome bot za 7 rank :)
btw sorry, ze to pisu do buildu - abych nebyl tak uplne offtopic, tak se jeste zeptam, jestli nekdo pouziva na PVE talenty zvyseni blokace a zvyseni AR  (Obrnenej healer) |
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Brum
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Posted - 20/07/2006 : 10:28:05
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| no 1 sec mensi cooldawn je prave ta klicova cast. Aspon do PvP. Ja si ho nemoch vynachvalit. |
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Speh
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Posted - 20/07/2006 : 10:58:16
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Pokud chces zabijet monstra, doporucuju jet enhans samna 0/30/21[saman bez ns a neprerusitelny wavi je naprd]
Pokud chces hrat pvp solo doporucuju 20/31/0[nejlete tuf z av, lehce dosazitelna pro kazdeho] za prepodkladu ze mas slusnou oborucni zbran, jinak 31/0/20 a hrat si na maga, kdy po kazdym souboji budes pit vodu jak jouda.
Pokud konecne pochopis silu samna v grp pvp doporucuji jet 21/0/30, saman je suporter a podle toho by mel mit postaven svuj build, v podstate tvojim ukolem je vyblejt ze sebe totemy, healit co to da a interuptovat shockama do targetu mt.Pozdeji pokud mas slusne vybaveni z high instanci si s timto buildem schopny zabit v podstate kohokoliv az na postavy stavene primo na duel.obtizne je zabit paladina, druida, holy priesta[shadow se da tak na 70procent]enhans samna, zkratka vsechno jejichz dmg neni zavisli od many a umi se healnout.Vyhoda je ze jsi diky purification platny healer v instancich.
Chces hrat jen instance a nic jinyho te nezajima pak */5*/31.
Saman je v podstate velmi variabilni povolani a kazdej si musi najit svuj zpusob jak ho chce hrat.Proto doporucuju zkousej si svoje buildy a respecuj pokud jse ti neco nezda.
Jinak btw co rikate na nerf wf totemu parada co, jeste ze zapomneli nerfnout palatum jejich aury do pvm gratz.Nejvic me rozesmalo ze vam nepude dat heartstone v bubline, to jsem se fakt malem pocural smichy, ze resej takovou kravinu. |
Mé dílo jsem Já, kdo jej neuznává, neuznává mě. |
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Bubak
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Posted - 20/07/2006 : 11:02:10
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Originally posted by Speh
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Jinak btw co rikate na nerf wf totemu parada co, ...
Zadnej nerf se nekona, bylo vyslyseno volani davu a nechaj ho tak jak je tedka.
Edit: I've spoken with the developers and they let me know that they're not satisfied with the impact the windfury totem change is having on current end-game content balance, and plan to undo the change. Please remember that the testing phase of any patch is precisely to test such changes and evaluate their possible impact on the game, whether or not they eventually go into the final release build.
In short, no change to Windfury Totem is planned at this time. by Eyonix |
"My only dream is to destroy the nightmares of others."
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tsawo
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Posted - 20/07/2006 : 11:13:38
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Originally posted by Bubak
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Originally posted by Speh
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Jinak btw co rikate na nerf wf totemu parada co, ...
Zadnej nerf se nekona, bylo vyslyseno volani davu a nechaj ho tak jak je tedka.
Edit: I've spoken with the developers and they let me know that they're not satisfied with the impact the windfury totem change is having on current end-game content balance, and plan to undo the change. Please remember that the testing phase of any patch is precisely to test such changes and evaluate their possible impact on the game, whether or not they eventually go into the final release build.
In short, no change to Windfury Totem is planned at this time. by Eyonix
To jen dokazuje, ze si Blizzard s end-game content vybalancovanim shamana proste nevi rady. |
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Bubak
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Posted - 20/07/2006 : 11:17:42
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Originally posted by tsawo
To jen dokazuje, ze si Blizzard s end-game content vybalancovanim shamana proste nevi rady.
To je bohuzel pravda no :/
A myslim, ze dokud se budou drzet totemu jako jedinyho moznyho zpusobu buffovani, tak to nikdy nevyresej, leda ze by si ty totemy nosil shaman na zadech -> byly by aspon castecne mobilni :) |
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Speh
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Posted - 20/07/2006 : 11:39:12
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| Aha tak toho jsem si nevsim a jsem rad, dekuji.Mno otazka zni jestli to vubec resi.ta mobilita by mi ani tak nevadila, jako spis by mohli dyl vydrzet a mit vetsi range. |
Mé dílo jsem Já, kdo jej neuznává, neuznává mě. |
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