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Colldor
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 Posted - 15/11/2004 : 11:21:22
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Zacnu s buildem:
Elemental Combat Talents (16 points)
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Elemental Focus - 1/1 points
Gives you a 10% chance to enter a Clearcasting state after casting any Fire, Frost, or Nature damage spell. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
Enhancement Talents (31 points)
Ancestral Knowledge - 5/5 points
Increases your maximum Mana by 5%.
Thundering Strikes - 5/5 points
Improves your chance to get a critical strike with your weapon attacks by 5%.
Improved Ghost Wolf - 2/2 points
Reduces the cast time of your Ghost Wolf spell by 2 second.
Improved Lightning Shield - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Lightning Shield orbs by 15%.
Two-Handed Axes and Maces - 1/1 points
Allows you to use Two-Handed Axes and Two-Handed Maces.
Flurry - 5/5 points
Increases your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike.
Parry - 1/1 points
Gives a chance to parry melee attacks.
Improved Windfury Weapon - 2/2 points
Increases the chance to activate the Windfury Weapon effect by 4%.
Improved Strength of Earth Totem - 1/3 points
Increases the amount of Strength raised by your Strength of Earth Totem by 5%.
Toughness - 5/5 points
Increases your armor value from items by 10%.
Stormstrike - 1/1 points
Gives you an extra attack. In addition, the next 2 sources of Nature damage dealt to the target are increased by 20%. Lasts 12 seconds.
Restoration Talents (4 points)
Tidal Focus - 4/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your healing spells by 4%.
Tak, docela by ocenil rady nejakych povedenych shamanu, protoze si nejsem jistej funkcnosty tohodle templatu ;p
Proste sem se hral s talent kalkulatorem, a vypadlo tohle :) Na Restoration spells se pravdepodobne vyseru, a az na Tridal Focus nedam uz nic ... kdyby chtel byt pure healer hraju priesta. Na pvp heal podle me staci "netalentovanej" heal :) No kazdopadne, zatim se my nejvic libi cesta meelee/shock-nuke shamana ...
Zajima me a potrebuju ( predevsim lidi co jedu shamany )"odborny rady" a jakou cestou pudu a co si myslej vo buildu nahore, aby to moh pripadne trochu upravit.
Myslim, ze je dulezity odzacatku vedet jakou cestu se vydat, nez pak pred koncem to vse upravovat a nadavat ze ste talenty strkaly zbytecne bez zadneho planu :)
Diky dopredu :)
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Colldor, Allerious, Turrin Bagalmon [UO - DP] (retired)
Colldor, Enforcer <CzA> [Anarchy Online] (retired)
Kremilek, Troll Warrior <Zdechliny> [WoW] (retired)
Colldor, Zealot <Skull> [WHO] (retired) |
Edited by - Colldor on 15/11/2004 11:23:02
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tsawo
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VT
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Posted - 15/11/2004 : 13:46:39
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Jak jsem psal uz jinde, ja to vidim zatim na:
Restoration 22 bodu - chci Natures Swiftness
Enhanced 7 bodu - mana + vlk na 1 sekunde.
Zbytek asi Elemental.
Nicmene at se stane cokoliv chci Natures Swiftness :). |
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Roman76
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SHIMI
Junior Member
914 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2004 : 16:04:45
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Elemental Combat Talents (15 points)
Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
Enhancement Talents (14 points)
Ancestral Knowledge - 5/5 points
Increases your maximum Mana by 5%.
Thundering Strikes - 5/5 points
Improves your chance to get a critical strike with your weapon attacks by 5%.
Improved Lightning Shield - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Lightning Shield orbs by 15%.
Two-Handed Axes and Maces - 1/1 point
Allows you to use Two-Handed Axes and Two-Handed Maces.
Restoration Talents (22 points)
Improved Healing Wave - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Healing Wave spell by 0.5 seconds.
Tidal Focus - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your healing spells by 5%.
Improved Lesser Healing Wave - 5/5 points
Gives you a 75% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Lesser Healing Wave.
Combat Endurance - 1/1 point
Allows 10% of your Health regeneration to work while in combat.
Tidal Mastery - 5/5 points
Increases the critical effect chance of your healing and Nature damage spells by 5%.
Nature's Swiftness - 1/1 point
When activated, your next Nature spell with a casting time less than 10 seconds becomes an instant cast spell.
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SHIMI
Junior Member
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Posted - 20/11/2004 : 16:20:57
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| este mam otazecku,je lepsi pouzivat hole nebo palice+stit...nebo si vybrat talent na 2h zbrane?? a co armor,staci leather (tzn. jako skilly si vzit skinning a leatherworking) nebo sotji za to si koupit mail (a tim padem i lepe mit mining a bs)? |
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hugo
Starting Member
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Posted - 20/11/2004 : 20:21:23
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Sakra uz me smazali 32 shamana a ty talenty si zpameti nepamatuju :))
ale to:
Ancestral Knowledge - 5/5 points
Increases your maximum Mana by 5%.
tohle je knicemu... nakonci mas treba 6k mana, 300mana je uplny NIC
kazdopadne urcite pudu do tech shock talentu (pro pvp must have)...
a pak v enchancement az po parry1/1+windfury2/2 windfury je proste super... taky v resoration je super ten 3min cooldown skill co udela next healing spell(aka healing wave) instacast. ale nato asi uz nebudou bodiky, musim to spocitat az budu na eu servru :) |
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tsawo
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Posted - 20/11/2004 : 21:24:33
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Originally posted by SHIMI
este mam otazecku,je lepsi pouzivat hole nebo palice+stit...nebo si vybrat talent na 2h zbrane?? a co armor,staci leather (tzn. jako skilly si vzit skinning a leatherworking) nebo sotji za to si koupit mail (a tim padem i lepe mit mining a bs)?
palice+stit -> vice AC, spotrebujes min many v prubehu boje na leceni
2h weapons -> vetsi dmg, ale pomalejsi a dostavas vetsi rany tudiz se musis i vic lecit
i leatherworking ma nekolik hodne slusnych mail receptu, hlavne pokud se pak specnes na Dragonscale leatherworking (mail zbroj)
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Filro
Starting Member
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Posted - 21/11/2004 : 01:28:58
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Vymyslel jsem si temer stejne ten tree talentu... vprdnu se na restoration a budu davat predevsim shock talenty a potom hodne to budu rvat do vetsiny enhancement  |
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Filro
Starting Member
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Posted - 22/11/2004 : 14:34:47
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Měl bych několik dotazů ohledně shamana v PvP- doufam ze Colldorovi nebude vadit, ze to pisu sem...
1) Které kouzlo imbue zbraně je nejlepší/ byste doporučili?
1. Rockbiter, 2. Flametongue, 3. Frostbrand nebo 4. Windfury
2) Který totem je pro shamana nejlepší na utok nablizko?
- 1. Strengh of earth totem (+str) nebo 2. Garce of air totem (+ agility)
- a ještě jestli 1. Flame tongue totem nebo 2.Windfury totem (podobné jako u imbue zbraní)
Kdyžtak ještě na čem závisí kolik totemů můžu mít vyvolaných (třeba jestli mohu mít buď na str nebo na agi nebo oba)??
Kdyby jste se chtěli mrknout na ty dovednosti shamana, tak tady je nejaky odkaz http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Skills.List&category_select_id=2
Děkuji mnohokrát |
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tsawo
New Member
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Posted - 22/11/2004 : 16:15:54
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Originally posted by Filro
Měl bych několik dotazů ohledně shamana v PvP- doufam ze Colldorovi nebude vadit, ze to pisu sem...
1) Které kouzlo imbue zbraně je nejlepší/ byste doporučili?
1. Rockbiter, 2. Flametongue, 3. Frostbrand nebo 4. Windfury
Rockbiter - solo/pvp
Flametongue - elite moby solo
Frostband - pvp
Windfury - je super s rychlou zbrani, treba dykou, ale nemusis ji taky landnout nebo ne tak casto
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2) Který totem je pro shamana nejlepší na utok nablizko?
- 1. Strengh of earth totem (+str) nebo 2. Garce of air totem (+ agility)
Imho Grace, zveda jednak armor a taky sanci na critical
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- a ještě jestli 1. Flame tongue totem nebo 2.Windfury totem (podobné jako u imbue zbraní)
Kdyžtak ještě na čem závisí kolik totemů můžu mít vyvolaných (třeba jestli mohu mít buď na str nebo na agi nebo oba)??
Naraz muzes mit vzdy 1 totem od kazdeho elementu - tedy 4 (Earth, Water, Air and Fire)
Ano Str(Earth) a Agi(Air) muzes mit najednou, ale z Earth je imho pro vetsinu situaci vhodnejsi Stoneskin totem
Vsechny tyhle veci jsou mnohokrat reseny na oficialnich forech tady:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?fn=wow-shaman |
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SHIMI
Junior Member
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Posted - 29/11/2004 : 16:05:22
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sem zpracoval jak vypada shaman kdyz ma vsechny kouzla na max. ranku a do zavorek sem napsal modre jak se co zmeni pri pouziti prislusnyho talentu k tomu kouzlu..enjoy
http://www.justclan.com/CS/img/MaxShaman+Talents.doc |
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beldor5
Average Member
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Posted - 29/11/2004 : 22:19:55
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Jak procitam ty ucinky kouzel tak je mi jasne ze nervnuti shamana je nezbytne.Jen cumim na vsechny ty instant casty do PvP...Hmmm(mag je proti nemu cucka) |
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tsawo
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 01:05:13
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Originally posted by beldor5
Jak procitam ty ucinky kouzel tak je mi jasne ze nervnuti shamana je nezbytne.Jen cumim na vsechny ty instant casty do PvP...Hmmm(mag je proti nemu cucka)
Doporucuju opet oficialni fora, kde si muzes, pokud si das tu praci, udelat nazor na to, jak moc je shaman overpowered. Imho je shaman nejvice vyvazena profese ve hre.
Edit: /emoce off |
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Edited by - tsawo on 30/11/2004 01:11:32 |
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Oralin
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 09:36:39
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Originally posted by tsawo
... Imho je shaman nejvice vyvazena profese ve hre.
 To že ho chceš hrát v retailu a nerf by se ti nezamlouval s tím nemá co dělat viď? |
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tsawo
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 10:12:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Oralin
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Originally posted by tsawo
... Imho je shaman nejvice vyvazena profese ve hre.
To že ho chceš hrát v retailu a nerf by se ti nezamlouval s tím nemá co dělat viď?
V retailu shamana ze zacatku hrat nebudu. A za tim, co jsem rekl o vyvazenosti shamana si stojim. Blizzard totiz imho vsechny profese balancuje az na high level, vzhledem k rychlemu levelovani.
Podle papirovych statistik se mava nerf batem snadno, jen je to vetsinou totalne mimo misu. |
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beldor5
Average Member
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 10:58:29
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| Jo jasne a kazdej cteme jine ofic. WoW forum... Kdyz srovnam treba druida(coz je mimo totemu class s podobnym zamerenim) tak se kupodivu vsichni shodujou ze je shaman owerp. |
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Oralin
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 12:22:18
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Originally posted by beldor5
Jo jasne a kazdej cteme jine ofic. WoW forum... Kdyz srovnam treba druida(coz je mimo totemu class s podobnym zamerenim) tak se kupodivu vsichni shodujou ze je shaman owerp.
O shamanovi toho moc nevím, jen že si ho všichni hráči chválej, což je divný (většinou všichni chtějí zlepšení).
Ale co se týká srovnání s druidem, tak je to spíš tím, že druid není v pořádku. TO uznávají všichni. Umí vše a nic pořádně a tak je jeho použití v PvP a grupách omezené. Je zábavné za něj hrát, ale každá grupa dá přednost "pure" classům. |
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VT
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 12:30:40
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Druid by byl fajn kdyby mel ress. Takhle je na dve veci.
Shaman je imho spolu s rogue nejsilnejsim classem. Instantni snare, instantni totemy, insta healy (pres talenty), silny melee damage, chain defenze.
Neexistence cc timeru ho zatim pasovala do role pvp boha. Az Blizzard implementuje timery a decreasne u shamana o zdibec melee damage, bude z nej razem prumerny class. |
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tsawo
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 13:41:46
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Originally posted by Van Tassel
Druid by byl fajn kdyby mel ress. Takhle je na dve veci.
Shaman je imho spolu s rogue nejsilnejsim classem. Instantni snare, instantni totemy, insta healy (pres talenty), silny melee damage, chain defenze.
Imho na capu uz shaman rozhodne nebude ve srovnani s ostatnimi classes polobuh. Ale on cas ukaze.
Druida nehraju, takze nemuzu posoudit, jestli je k nicemu, kazdopadne vysoky aliancni druidi jsou na raidech hodne videt. |
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Rodier
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 13:51:07
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Colldore, ty si zadnyho shamana do PvP delat nebudes, stejne tak ostatni cesi.
Prece nejste takovy socky a lamy do PvP, ze vas zivot ve WoW zavisi jen na zalozeni si docasne overpowered classu. ;-DD
Nechci videt ty narky az ho nerfnou a bude znej prumerne nepouzitelnej de/buffer. |
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Rodier
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 13:52:05
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Colldore, ty si zadnyho shamana do PvP delat nebudes, stejne tak ostatni cesi.
Prece nejste takovy socky a lamy do PvP, ze vas zivot ve WoW zavisi jen na zalozeni si docasne overpowered classu. ;-DD
Nechci videt ty narky az ho nerfnou a bude znej prumerne nepouzitelnej de/buffer. |
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tsawo
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 14:02:31
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Originally posted by Rodier
Colldore, ty si zadnyho shamana do PvP delat nebudes, stejne tak ostatni cesi.
Prece nejste takovy socky a lamy do PvP, ze vas zivot ve WoW zavisi jen na zalozeni si docasne overpowered classu. ;-DD
Co budes hrat v pvp ty? Gnome Fisherman? To by mohla byt vyzva...
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Rodier
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 14:08:36
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:-))) no chci jit do undead rogue. Pripadne dwarf hunter (na jinem serveru) pokud tedy hunter bude do PvP 1vs1 pouzitelny..
(asi ne.. nebo uz nekdo vi jak je to s Growlem ..abilitou peta? Jestli na sebe nejak navazne hrace? treba ze by mu dal na chvili freeze nebo by proste tocil hrace po dobu x sekund na peta?) .. zkratka neco, jako ma warloci pet fear..
Pac takhle je warlock a jeho pet v PvP docela k uzitku..zatimco hunteruv pet je zatim imho do pvp nahovno a hunter na blizko = jista smrt.. |
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Roman76
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tsawo
New Member
330 Posts |
Posted - 30/11/2004 : 14:27:55
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Originally posted by Roman76
HAHAHA fisherman to je super zamereni
Blizzard slibil v nekterym z dalsich patchu new equip. Zabijacky thoriovy udice of Owl a Mithrilovy naberaky of Eagle. V kombinaci s dobrou navnadou smrtici kombo. |
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tsawo
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Posted - 30/11/2004 : 14:34:48
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Originally posted by Rodier
..zatimco hunteruv pet je zatim imho do pvp nahovno a hunter na blizko = jista smrt..
Vcera jsme byli v Sunken Temple. Pred vstupem do instance jsme potkali Allies. Vsichni tak zhruba o 4-5 levelu vys. 2 magove a nightelf hunter s rychlym petem nam nejvic zavareli. Na blizko jsme se k nemu dostali jen parkrat |
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Rodier
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 02:57:54
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no to je fajn, ale muzes mi rict, jak ti ten hunter zavaril?
ja prave shanim nekoho kdo mi rekne jak se hunter uplatni v PvP.
Protoze proste jeho pet nema temer zadne dmg, je to ciste stoper.. ale jak zastavi hrace to vazne netusim. |
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tsawo
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 10:05:37
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Originally posted by Rodier
no to je fajn, ale muzes mi rict, jak ti ten hunter zavaril?
ja prave shanim nekoho kdo mi rekne jak se hunter uplatni v PvP.
Protoze proste jeho pet nema temer zadne dmg, je to ciste stoper.. ale jak zastavi hrace to vazne netusim.
Hunter na nas strilel z dalky a jeho pet otravoval. Jeho dmg ale byla i v porovnani s melee opravdu znat.
Na to, aby te udrzel z melee dosahu ma nekolik zpomalovacich specek, pak nejakou sit, nevim, podrobneji jsem to nezkoumal. Viz http://www.thottbot.com/?c=Hunter
Jen to, co mam z praxe, kdyz me elfsky gheyhunteri gankovali ve Stranglethorn Vale. |
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Rodier
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 10:49:27
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no on ma spis maximalne tak zpomalovaci specky, a to na desne kratkou dobu.. a vzhledem ktomu ze cil musi byt mezi 35-8yd tak je to celkem na nic.. ostatne proto mu dali stopera (do pvm).
Budu lobovat za stopera do pvp ;] nebo si udelam warlocka kdyz ma fear.
edit : nevite nekdo co presne znamena tohle?
"Distract the target, causing threat."
ze by neco ve smyslu fearu?
Jinak pekne proti roguum
Increases stealth detection and shows hidden units within detection range on the minimap. Only one form of tracking can be active at a time.
- to snad nikdo jinej nema ;] videt na minimape schovany;] pritom to nic nezere.. je to permanetne a je to na docela velkou vzdalenost.
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Mefisto
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 10:57:42
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quote:
Originally posted by Rodier
nevite nekdo co presne znamena tohle?
"Distract the target, causing threat."
ze by neco ve smyslu fearu?
imho to znamena ze kdyz ti pujde potvora po magovi v parte tak na ni prdnes tohleto a ona zacne jit po tobe :) ale taky si nejsem 100% jist |
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VT
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 12:17:52
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| "Threat" je WoW oznacenim toho co je v nekterych jinych mmorpg zname jako "Aggro". A tedy cim je threat/aggro vetsi tim je vetsi sance natauntovat (napr. peelnout ze supportu) MOBa. |
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Mefisto
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 13:47:42
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Originally posted by Van Tassel
"Threat" je WoW oznacenim toho co je v nekterych jinych mmorpg zname jako "Aggro". A tedy cim je threat/aggro vetsi tim je vetsi sance natauntovat (napr. peelnout ze supportu) MOBa.
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beldor5
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 14:37:43
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Jo znamenato ze od koho dostal mob nejvice threatu(ten se na mobovi pocita od kazdeho hrace zvlast) po tom mob bude utocit(threat se dava podle dmg ,heal cile,abilit ,atd..)tydle ability vyuzivaj nejvice wariori aby mobove sli po nich a nerubali do slabe obrnenejch magu a spol.
btw:todle je vysvetleni pro neznale MMOrpg hatmatilky
-kdyz ma nekdo od moba aggro -> mob prave utoci na nej |
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Rodier
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 20:45:00
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| hmm potom nechapu k cemu jeto hunterovi? to by byl proti efekt proti growl jeho peta (pretahne aggro z huntera na peta) |
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Oralin
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Posted - 02/12/2004 : 01:18:29
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Originally posted by Rodier
hmm potom nechapu k cemu jeto hunterovi? to by byl proti efekt proti growl jeho peta (pretahne aggro z huntera na peta)
Je to jednoduché, v groupě bereš agro od healerů a magů. Prostě jim agro převezmeš a následně ho předáš na peta nebo tanka. |
Edited by - Oralin on 02/12/2004 01:19:04 |
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Milan
Junior Member
777 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 10:04:55
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Nekde nekdo psal o tom, ze shaman je spatny na PvM solovani a ze dobre clasy jsou rogue,mag ci hunter. Mohl by to nekdo trosku vice rozvest.
Moje zkusenosti jsou takove, ze se shamanem dam moba o 3 nekdy i o 4lvl vic. Mag na +3 mobech strasne resistuje a pokud takovy mob dobehne k nemu, tak bud muze utect nebo umrit. Ale to je asi tak jedine co podle me muze delat. O roguovi jsem cetl, za na nejakem lvl dostane nejakou dobrou specku, ktera je pry proti mobum skvela. Na jakem lvl to je a o co se jedna?
Jak rikam, neverim ze charaktery bez healu dokazi expovat rychleji nez shaman. Pletu se??? |
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Quarath_
Starting Member
30 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 10:14:27
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quote:
Originally posted by Milan
Nekde nekdo psal o tom, ze shaman je spatny na PvM solovani a ze dobre clasy jsou rogue,mag ci hunter. Mohl by to nekdo trosku vice rozvest.
Moje zkusenosti jsou takove, ze se shamanem dam moba o 3 nekdy i o 4lvl vic. Mag na +3 mobech strasne resistuje a pokud takovy mob dobehne k nemu, tak bud muze utect nebo umrit. Ale to je asi tak jedine co podle me muze delat. O roguovi jsem cetl, za na nejakem lvl dostane nejakou dobrou specku, ktera je pry proti mobum skvela. Na jakem lvl to je a o co se jedna?
Jak rikam, neverim ze charaktery bez healu dokazi expovat rychleji nez shaman. Pletu se???
Imho je shaman na solo PvM uplne v pohode. Zapichnes nejakej ten totem, natahnes si moba lichtingem, po ceste mu venujes flame shock a pak ho jednoduse umlatis.
Kdyz se neco posere, tak zdrhas, zapichnes earthbind, stoneclaw, earthbind a ses v klidu... |
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Ahmed
Starting Member
84 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 10:33:54
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quote:
Originally posted by Rodier
no to je fajn, ale muzes mi rict, jak ti ten hunter zavaril?
ja prave shanim nekoho kdo mi rekne jak se hunter uplatni v PvP.
Protoze proste jeho pet nema temer zadne dmg, je to ciste stoper.. ale jak zastavi hrace to vazne netusim.
Jedna z nejsilnejsich zbrani huntera je jeho pet. Pokavat ho naucis dmg specky tak se zneho stane neuveritelnej dmg dealer. V US bete sem hral Tauren huntera, dostal sem se na lvl 22 tusim, pet mel dve dmg specky a docela to litalo. Diky petovi se mi podarilo zabit i lvl 35 warlocka. |
Zlatovous <MdK> Mordred DAoC |
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kotte
Starting Member
96 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 12:07:04
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dostal sem se na lvl 22 tusim, pet mel dve dmg specky a docela to litalo. Diky petovi se mi podarilo zabit i lvl 35 warlocka.
to si ten warlock odbeh na 15 minut pryc ne?
1vs1 je nesmysl aby lvl22 dal lvl35, at uz je to jakejkoliv class |
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beldor5
Average Member
1144 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 12:19:27
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| presne tak. lvl 35 by te kilnul na 2-3 kouzla(a tvuj pet by mu delal trapnou damage) |
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Ahmed
Starting Member
84 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2004 : 23:28:49
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quote:
Originally posted by kotte
quote:
dostal sem se na lvl 22 tusim, pet mel dve dmg specky a docela to litalo. Diky petovi se mi podarilo zabit i lvl 35 warlocka.
to si ten warlock odbeh na 15 minut pryc ne?
1vs1 je nesmysl aby lvl22 dal lvl35, at uz je to jakejkoliv class
Warlock se branil, nevim jak ale zabil sem ho. Bohuzel sem mepocital z jeho selfrezzem |
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Milan
Junior Member
777 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2004 : 10:18:57
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Vcera jsem si zalozil HE huntera. Na to ze ta socka bez peta neni na blizko skoro schopna upizlat moba na svojim lvl jsem se zatim dostal na lvl7 za 4 hodky. Peta asi dostanu na zaklade splneni nejakeho questu co? Kde se nabira?
Ty race ability Blizard fakt podelal. HE dal neviditelnost a Tuarenum herbalism lvl15.15 lvl jsem udelal asi za hodku nahodneho zbirani. Cool
O lidske detekci neviditelnosti ani nemluve.
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Ahmed
Starting Member
84 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2004 : 10:26:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Milan
Vcera jsem si zalozil HE huntera. Na to ze ta socka bez peta neni na blizko skoro schopna upizlat moba na svojim lvl jsem se zatim dostal na lvl7 za 4 hodky. Peta asi dostanu na zaklade splneni nejakeho questu co? Kde se nabira?
Ty race ability Blizard fakt podelal. HE dal neviditelnost a Tuarenum herbalism lvl15.15 lvl jsem udelal asi za hodku nahodneho zbirani. Cool
O lidske detekci neviditelnosti ani nemluve.
Hunter dostane tame pet na lvl 10 tusim |
Zlatovous <MdK> Mordred DAoC |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2005 : 22:01:31
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udelal sem 2 templaty tak je skouknete a reknete :)
nejsem si zcela jistej vyuzitelnosti natures swiftness, spis sem se tam chytl VTho protoze z tech spellu co zatim na svym levelu ve final bete mam jich moc nature s delsim timerem pouzitelnych neni ( ghost wolf na to pry nefunguje a ten je stejne shozenej na jednu sekundu )
jinak myslite ze ma smysl jit do taurena kvuli abilita kdyz se mi behem casu stal ork blizsim ? bude to nejak extreme znat ? me se ten 2sec stun zda docela overpowered na to ze je to jen trait ( u orka neni skoro zadna abilita vyuzitelna snad az na axe spec )
edit : tak ten nature swiftness muze bejt super na chain lighting ale stale si nejsem jist pouzitelnosti, tohle si necham vysvetlit :)
Shammy - 1 + natureswiftness
Class: Shaman
Level: 60
Elemental Combat Talents (16 points)
# Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
# Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
# Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
# Elemental Focus - 1/1 point
Gives you a 10% chance to enter a Clearcasting state after casting any Fire, Frost, or Nature damage spell. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.
Enhancement Talents (13 points)
# Shield Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to block attacks with a shield by 5%.
# Improved Ghost Wolf - 2/2 points
Reduces the cast time of your Ghost Wolf spell by 2 second.
# Improved Lightning Shield - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Lightning Shield orbs by 15%.
# Thundering Strikes - 3/5 points
Improves your chance to get a critical strike with your weapon attacks by 3%.
Restoration Talents (22 points)
# Improved Healing Wave - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Healing Wave spell by 0.5 seconds.
# Tidal Focus - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your healing spells by 5%.
# Combat Endurance - 1/1 point
Allows 10% of your Health regeneration to work while in combat.
# Improved Lesser Healing Wave - 5/5 points
Gives you a 75% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Lesser Healing Wave.
# Tidal Mastery - 5/5 points
Increases the critical effect chance of your healing and Nature damage spells by 5%.
# Nature's Swiftness - 1/1 point
When activated, your next Nature spell with a casting time less than 10 seconds becomes an instant cast spell.
shammy2 + flurry
Class: Shaman
Level: 60
Elemental Combat Talents (16 points)
# Concussion - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your Shock spells by 5%.
# Convection - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shock spells by 10%.
# Reverberation - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Shock spells by 1 second.
# Elemental Focus - 1/1 point
Gives you a 10% chance to enter a Clearcasting state after casting any Fire, Frost, or Nature damage spell. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.
Enhancement Talents (20 points)
# Shield Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to block attacks with a shield by 5%.
# Improved Ghost Wolf - 2/2 points
Reduces the cast time of your Ghost Wolf spell by 2 second.
# Improved Lightning Shield - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Lightning Shield orbs by 15%.
# Thundering Strikes - 5/5 points
Improves your chance to get a critical strike with your weapon attacks by 5%.
# Flurry - 5/5 points
Increases your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike.
Restoration Talents (15 points)
# Improved Healing Wave - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Healing Wave spell by 0.5 seconds.
# Tidal Focus - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your healing spells by 5%.
# Combat Endurance - 1/1 point
Allows 10% of your Health regeneration to work while in combat.
# Improved Lesser Healing Wave - 4/5 points
Gives you a 60% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Lesser Healing Wave.
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"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play." |
Edited by - Mefisto on 23/01/2005 22:40:26 |
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SHIMI
Junior Member
914 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2005 : 22:45:52
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| ja si myslim ze NS je hlavne pouzitelna pro healing kouzla...jinak Combat Endurance se spis hodi pro trolla |
i got no time to lose mon, so i prefer having fun in real life ... comprehende ? |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2005 : 22:54:12
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quote:
Originally posted by SHIMI
ja si myslim ze NS je hlavne pouzitelna pro healing kouzla...jinak Combat Endurance se spis hodi pro trolla
jo, healy asi jo
jinak combat endurance sem tam dal z toho duvodu ze 1 talent point v novy passiv abilite ktera mi zajisti alespon castecnou regeneraci v prubehu boje je rozhodne lepsi nez 1% vetsi sance na kritikal, 2% less mana cost neceho nebo tka podobne, zkratka takovy must-have pomer cena/vykon :
mozna u toho druhyho templatu by slo zmenit combat endurance + neco a priprdnou na ten windfury buff
kdo vi co bude fungovat nejlip :) |
"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play." |
Edited by - Mefisto on 23/01/2005 23:06:05 |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
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tsawo
New Member
330 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2005 : 23:44:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto
edit : tak ten nature swiftness muze bejt super na chain lighting ale stale si nejsem jist pouzitelnosti, tohle si necham vysvetlit :)
Pres NS je Chain lightning dalsi instacast. Vbehnes mezi nepratele, vyberes si priesta nebo maga, purge, earthshock, ns, chain, a hned ma pulku hp dole. To uz jsi u nej a cekas na proc windfury, a na novy earthshock...
(edit: tohle je ale v zerg pvp, kdy je na place mumraj. V sehranem tymu uz by mel mit stit nebo ho nekdo heali.)
No a defenzivni vyuziti je taky na biledni. Treba proti rogueovi nebo hunterovi. Povolani co hitujou rychle (nebo jejich pet) a je velka sance ze by ti mohli prodluzovat Lesser heal. Potom NS + Healing Wave. Hlavne proti rogue je to mnohdy lifesaver. |
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Edited by - tsawo on 23/01/2005 23:47:12 |
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pix
Starting Member
2 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2005 : 15:03:23
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Hm, nejak to tu chciplo.. shamana testim.. co rikate na tento build?
Elemental Combat Talents (0 points)
# None
Enhancement Talents (29 points)
# Shield Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to block attacks with a shield by 5%.
# Improved Ghost Wolf - 2/2 points
Reduces the cast time of your Ghost Wolf spell by 2 second.
# Improved Lightning Shield - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Lightning Shield orbs by 15%.
# Thundering Strikes - 5/5 points
Improves your chance to get a critical strike with your weapon attacks by 5%.
# Improved Stoneskin Totem - 1/3 point
Increases the amount of damage absorbed by your Stoneskin Totem by 7%.
# Two-Handed Axes and Maces - 1/1 point
Allows you to use Two-Handed Axes and Two-Handed Maces.
# Flurry - 5/5 points
Increases your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike.
# Improved Windfury Weapon - 2/2 points
Increases the Attack Power bonus of your Windfury Weapon effect by ?.
# Parry - 1/1 point
Gives a chance to parry melee attacks.
# Toughness - 4/5 points
Increases your armor value from items by 8%.
Restoration Talents (22 points)
# Improved Healing Wave - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Healing Wave spell by 0.5 seconds.
# Tidal Focus - 3/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your healing spells by 3%.
# Totemic Focus - 2/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your totems by 4%.
# Improved Lesser Healing Wave - 5/5 points
Gives you a 75% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Lesser Healing Wave.
# Combat Endurance - 1/1 point
Allows 10% of your Health regeneration to work while in combat.
# Tidal Mastery - 5/5 points
Increases the critical effect chance of your healing and Nature damage spells by 5%.
# Nature's Swiftness - 1/1 point
When activated, your next Nature spell with a casting time less than 10 seconds becomes an instant cast spell.
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EndyX
Starting Member
28 Posts |
Posted - 16/08/2005 : 19:26:10
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quote:
Originally posted by pix
Hm, nejak to tu chciplo.. shamana testim.. co rikate na tento build?
Hmm tak skoro samej build sem postoval na nejakym foru..
Urcite je dobrej a zaslouzi si aby ste ho vyzkouseli.Ja sam ho mam a jsem nadmiru spokojen. |
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