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JerzeeG
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 Posted - 20/07/2006 : 13:10:39
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| spise by mohli pridat k tem 4 elementum jeste nejaky paty specialni raidovy slot pro tzv megatotem platny pro cely raid, ktery by si saman u sveho trenera "nastavil" - takze by ho nemohl menit v instanci, aby to nebylo tak OP jako u paladinu.. |
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tsawo
New Member
330 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2006 : 14:30:27
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| Ofic shaman fora (US i EU) jsou plna velmi rozumnych a vubec ne preboostlych navrhu jak vylepsit shamana v top-end pve contentu. Bohuzel chybi vule vyvojaru neco s tim delat. |
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Firian
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1047 Posts |
Posted - 21/07/2006 : 11:51:33
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| Asi málo whinujete jděte se poučit na forum k paladinům ;-) |
WoW EU *Drak'Thul* Firun (Druid), *Darkspear* Firun (Shaman), *Thunderhorn* Milagros (Gnome Mage)
Anarchy Online *RK1* Firian (200 Fixer), Firian2 (216/10 Bureaucrat), Firian3 (60 Doctor), Firian4 (215/13 Shade), Milagros (217/15 Engineer), Firun (217/18 Enforcer) | *RK2* Milagros (120 Adv)
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JerzeeG
Moderator
4364 Posts |
Posted - 21/07/2006 : 14:26:51
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Originally posted by Firian
Asi málo whinujete jděte se poučit na forum k paladinům ;-)
tjn, presne o tom to totiz je..
odhaduju, ze obecne je nejnizsi prumerna vekova hladina hracu prave u paladinu..
neumeji to hrat a jen breci, jak je lola slaby, takze ho blizz neustale boostujou..
pruser je, kdyz potom dostane paladina do rukou schopny clovek a jeste si ho vybavi.. |
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Eagle
Average Member
2225 Posts |
Posted - 21/07/2006 : 14:28:11
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Originally posted by JerzeeG
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Originally posted by Firian
Asi málo whinujete jděte se poučit na forum k paladinům ;-)
tjn, presne o tom to totiz je..
odhaduju, ze obecne je nejnizsi prumerna vekova hladina hracu prave u paladinu..
neumeji to hrat a jen breci, jak je lola slaby, takze ho blizz neustale boostujou..
pruser je, kdyz potom dostane paladina do rukou schopny clovek a jeste si ho vybavi..
no ono je to u shamanu uplne stejny ... co si budem povidat
jedinej kdo nebreci jsou warove a tak na to devove serou a warum roste rage ... a cekaji na execute :) |
UO, SWG, WoW, EVE, DF, LoL
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JerzeeG
Moderator
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Posted - 21/07/2006 : 14:37:39
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Originally posted by Eagle
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Originally posted by JerzeeG
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Originally posted by Firian
Asi málo whinujete jděte se poučit na forum k paladinům ;-)
tjn, presne o tom to totiz je..
odhaduju, ze obecne je nejnizsi prumerna vekova hladina hracu prave u paladinu..
neumeji to hrat a jen breci, jak je lola slaby, takze ho blizz neustale boostujou..
pruser je, kdyz potom dostane paladina do rukou schopny clovek a jeste si ho vybavi..
no ono je to u shamanu uplne stejny ... co si budem povidat
jedinej kdo nebreci jsou warove a tak na to devove serou a warum roste rage ... a cekaji na execute :)
co to zase meles, prestan uz konecne s tim fetem..
samana od vydani jenom neustale nerfujou a nerfujou, je to prakticky ten nejvetsi otloukanek ze vsech.. to jen v povedomi laiku zustava mylny dojem, ktery prameni z davnych dob pocatku wow, kdy byl saman skutecne ponekud OP.. |
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Shemiramoth
Moderator
4339 Posts |
Posted - 21/07/2006 : 14:39:08
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Ne warriori whinuji porad a kdyz myslim porad, tak porad. Problem je v tom, ze u warru je to uplne naopak. Zatimco paladinove dostanou boost, warra nerfnou anebo napisou work as intended.
Bohuzel warrior je opravdu dost v prdeli, pokud nema uplne top equip. Smashne te i mag s blue equipem, pokud to neni uplnej vul. Rozdil je jenom v casu. Blue mag = 5 vterin, purple mag = 1 vterina  . |
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Firian
Average Member
1047 Posts |
Posted - 21/07/2006 : 15:14:10
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Ale tak mág je zrovna warriorova Achillova pata... každé povolání je pro jedno jiné povolání free kill... tak to nemůžeš takhle brát :-) je na to nějaké anglické nebo latinské slovo které si teď nemůžu vybavit :-)
Edit: Je to tuším Nemesis? |
WoW EU *Drak'Thul* Firun (Druid), *Darkspear* Firun (Shaman), *Thunderhorn* Milagros (Gnome Mage)
Anarchy Online *RK1* Firian (200 Fixer), Firian2 (216/10 Bureaucrat), Firian3 (60 Doctor), Firian4 (215/13 Shade), Milagros (217/15 Engineer), Firun (217/18 Enforcer) | *RK2* Milagros (120 Adv)
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Eagle
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Posted - 21/07/2006 : 15:19:58
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Originally posted by Firian
Ale tak mág je zrovna warriorova Achillova pata... každé povolání je pro jedno jiné povolání free kill... tak to nemůžeš takhle brát :-) je na to nějaké anglické nebo latinské slovo které si teď nemůžu vybavit :-)
Edit: Je to tuším Nemesis?
wariorova achillova pata je vsechno co se hejbe a muze bojovat ranged :)
war je dobrej akorat na to aby stal a nechal se mlatit :) |
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Shemiramoth
Moderator
4339 Posts |
Posted - 21/07/2006 : 15:25:18
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Originally posted by Firian
Ale tak mág je zrovna warriorova Achillova pata... každé povolání je pro jedno jiné povolání free kill... tak to nemůžeš takhle brát :-) je na to nějaké anglické nebo latinské slovo které si teď nemůžu vybavit :-)Edit: Je to tuším Nemesis?
Hm ...warriorova achillova pata v mych ocich: mag, paladin, warlock, lepe equipnutej warr a kdyz nemas mortal strike, tak te mozna jeste "uhealuje" priest. Warrior dobryho paladina neda ani kdyby se pos, protoze fight trva vice nez minutu a on tim padem muze pouzit bublinu i tu sracku na immune na physical dmg. Ja jsem to mel mnohem jednodusi diky HoR, ale kdyz se podivam zpet na ostatni warry, tak je uprimne lituju, protoze sance je tak strasne mala na win. Vsechno je pouze o equipu, nektery povolani nepotrebuji ani to a to je bohuzel hodne spatne. |
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- When you can't run you crawl, when you can't crawl, when you can't do that, find someone to carry you.
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Mucus
Starting Member
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Posted - 21/07/2006 : 15:46:15
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Mno, jsou duely 1vs1. 2+vs1 je gank. Nekde mezi tim je PvP !!
V PvP (v duelech) plati, ze war s modrym equipem je toust, war s CD na Recklessness
je taktez toust a war bez priesta vzdycky byl, je a bude toust!
Jinak se chcu zeptat: nevite jestli se stackuje "Blood Fury a Mortal Strike"? |
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celdric
Average Member
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Posted - 21/07/2006 : 18:18:22
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
Ne warriori whinuji porad a kdyz myslim porad, tak porad. Problem je v tom, ze u warru je to uplne naopak. Zatimco paladinove dostanou boost, warra nerfnou anebo napisou work as intended.
Bohuzel warrior je opravdu dost v prdeli, pokud nema uplne top equip. Smashne te i mag s blue equipem, pokud to neni uplnej vul. Rozdil je jenom v casu. Blue mag = 5 vterin, purple mag = 1 vterina .
a to jeste whineri planuji vywhinovat normalizaci generace rage :-) to bude zase kriku ;-) |
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Seth
Senior Member
2564 Posts |
Posted - 21/07/2006 : 18:32:25
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pokud bude rage genervana tak koncim s warrem
to uz jsem si tu rogunu mohl zalozit rovnou |
Seth
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Stilgar
Average Member
1971 Posts |
Posted - 21/07/2006 : 18:41:56
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look its warrior whining ...
ja si nemyslim ze je na tom war zas tak spatne ... war s uber equipem je problem ... nebavim se o duelech (ale i tam zabije kde koho ... treba shamany, rogy...) ale o grup pvp ...
dela hodne velkej dmg, a mlatit do nej je nanic .. akorat ma vic rage a udela jeste vetsi dmg ... a v grupe ma urcite nekoho kdo ho pohealuje ...
war je hodne dobra PvP grup class, defakto jedinej dmg dealer keryho se kazdej snazi nechat napokoji ... |
[Stilgar]
Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen.
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MegaDeath
Average Member
1989 Posts |
Posted - 21/07/2006 : 19:00:02
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Originally posted by Seth
pokud bude rage genervana tak koncim s warrem
to uz jsem si tu rogunu mohl zalozit rovnou
on nemluvil o generovani rage (a'la rogue) ale o normalizaci generovani rage, coz, pokud chapu dobre, znamena neco jinyho |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
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Posted - 21/07/2006 : 19:27:40
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
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Originally posted by Seth
pokud bude rage genervana tak koncim s warrem
to uz jsem si tu rogunu mohl zalozit rovnou
on nemluvil o generovani rage (a'la rogue) ale o normalizaci generovani rage, coz, pokud chapu dobre, znamena neco jinyho
pokud vim tak devs tohle zamitli, nicmene myslim ze s rage se bude muset casem neco delat, ja vim ze zatim je to nerealny ale se soucasnou mechanikou se v druhym tretim datadisku dostanem na to ze wari jednou prastej a budou mit 100 rage :p |
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Shemiramoth
Moderator
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Posted - 21/07/2006 : 21:06:59
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Stilgu rekl jsi to sam war s uber equipem, je to opravdu podminka. Ani nevite jak neuveritelne me sere, ze je to jenom o equipu. Nereknes war s uber skillem, ale reknes war s uber equipem.  To je taky duvod, proc jsem skoncil po roce a pul s WoWkem. Zkratka equip equip equip equip... |
- If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain.
- When you can't run you crawl, when you can't crawl, when you can't do that, find someone to carry you.
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Sacrifice
New Member
140 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2006 : 11:21:00
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lol to su perly
fakt mi to nedalo
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Originally posted by JerzeeG
odhaduju, ze obecne je nejnizsi prumerna vekova hladina hracu prave u paladinu..
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Originally posted by JerzeeG
samana ....je to prakticky ten nejvetsi otloukanek ze vsech..
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
Bohuzel warrior je opravdu dost v prdeli, pokud nema uplne top equip.
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JerzeeG
Moderator
4364 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2006 : 14:19:28
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Originally posted by Sacrifice
lol to su perly
fakt mi to nedalo
jj, jsou a proto je necti, protoze to jiste znas o tom hazeni perel svinim.. |
Jerzee <Mor do Kuli> |
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tetehacko
Starting Member
12 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2006 : 20:06:02
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| mam ho tagy |
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Reyden
Senior Member
2747 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2006 : 20:29:33
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Originally posted by tetehacko
mam ho tagy
pls je mozny tohoto pisatele zabanovat/smazat z povrchu zemskeho?
diky |
Zenová povídka: Putuji takhle Severní Koreou a najednou potkám Gurrshaela a Pompa držíce se za ruce řkouce "Ano pane Reydene ... až tady jsme zjistili, že jsme míň než ta krabice u cesty ... vyhrál jsi, Ty jsi víc!". Usmál jsem se a odvětil jim: "Od té doby co nemám žádný cíl, už nebloudím!" |
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Shemiramoth
Moderator
4339 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2006 : 20:31:27
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| Offtopic: Khostri uz na tom pracuje. Respektive zjistuje co se deje. |
- If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain.
- When you can't run you crawl, when you can't crawl, when you can't do that, find someone to carry you.
- Achiever 27%, Explorer 67%, Killer 27%, Socializer 80%
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Araya
Moderator
4085 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2006 : 20:40:35
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| Ja myslim ze tetehacku musel v detstvi nekdo moc ublizit a ted se to s nim veze |
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berousek
New Member
197 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2006 : 00:13:39
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| Uz ten jeho nick, je nejaky takovy divny... :p |
Edited by - berousek on 27/07/2006 00:14:29 |
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Vigo_mocny
Starting Member
43 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2006 : 20:12:04
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Expím Šamana můžete se mi prosím vyjádřit k tomuhle buildu ?? Jde mi o group PVP a instance.
Enhancement
Ancestral Knowledge Rank 5
Shield Specialization Rank 2
Guardian Totems Rank 2
Thundering Strikes Rank 5
Two-Handed Axes and Maces Rank 1
Anticipation Rank 3
Flurry Rank 5
Toughness Rank 5
Parry Rank 1
Weapon Mastery Rank 5
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Enhancement Total: 34
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Improved Healing Wave Rank 5
Tidal Focus Rank 5
Improved Reincarnation Rank 2
Healing Focus Rank 5
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Restoration Total: 17 |
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vlkodlak
Junior Member
556 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2006 : 20:23:12
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Originally posted by Vigo_mocny
Expím Šamana můžete se mi prosím vyjádřit k tomuhle buildu ?? Jde mi o group PVP a instance.
Enhancement
Ancestral Knowledge Rank 5
Shield Specialization Rank 2
Guardian Totems Rank 2
Thundering Strikes Rank 5
Two-Handed Axes and Maces Rank 1
Anticipation Rank 3
Flurry Rank 5
Toughness Rank 5
Parry Rank 1
Weapon Mastery Rank 5
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Enhancement Total: 34
Restoration
Improved Healing Wave Rank 5
Tidal Focus Rank 5
Improved Reincarnation Rank 2
Healing Focus Rank 5
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Restoration Total: 17
Když už do enhancementu strkáš přez 30 bodů, bez stormstrike trochu divné.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=GZxVfzV0utx0xt0L - naházel jsem to tam teď jen tak z hlavy, ale myslím že je to celkem efektivní pvp/exping build.
EDIT: manší změna... |
Edited by - vlkodlak on 15/11/2006 20:28:34 |
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Harim
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Vigo_mocny
Starting Member
43 Posts |
Posted - 16/11/2006 : 19:50:53
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| Jo moc dekuju neco takovyho jsem si predstavoval. Jen uplne nechapu co presne stormstrike dela |
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Stilgar
Average Member
1971 Posts |
Posted - 16/11/2006 : 20:40:31
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| Instahit ... utok navic, yellow dmg, krom toho da cili debuff na +20% neture dmg (12 sec dura, 2 charges). |
[Stilgar]
Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen.
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Daran
Starting Member
64 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2006 : 01:08:44
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Originally posted by Vigo_mocny
Jo moc dekuju neco takovyho jsem si predstavoval. Jen uplne nechapu co presne stormstrike dela
no dělá přesně to jak je popsaný v talentech, nechápu co ti není jasné? |
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vlkodlak
Junior Member
556 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2006 : 01:35:33
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Originally posted by Daran
quote:
Originally posted by Vigo_mocny
Jo moc dekuju neco takovyho jsem si predstavoval. Jen uplne nechapu co presne stormstrike dela
no dělá přesně to jak je popsaný v talentech, nechápu co ti není jasné?
Asi mu není jasné, co ty anglické slovíčka znamenají... |
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Vigo_mocny
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Vigo_mocny
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MegaDeath
Average Member
1989 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2006 : 10:45:37
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| obdivuju tvuj zpusob jak rozhazujes talent bodiky po jednom do co nejvice ruznych talentu |
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Spavec
Starting Member
8 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2006 : 10:49:25
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a nevim ja osobne jedu ench 11 bodu a zbytek resto na prvni talenty seru takze
0 //11//zbytek :o)))
jak to das je vicemene na tobe ne kazdymu to vyhovuje jinak
třeba ja healuju jak po obrne tak mam talenty i v rychlosti healu
mno.... |
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DarkFace
Junior Member
700 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2006 : 21:29:05
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Moj TBC build
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=GZxVbdVMsVuqox0et |
"I must not Fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is little death that brings total obliteration. I will let it pass through me and over me. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. " |
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Quart
Starting Member
28 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2006 : 23:39:06
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Originally posted by Vigo_mocny
Omlouvam se dal jsem spatny link. Aktualni je tento
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=GZgVozqzutgzfto
Tak to jsem jeste nevidel :)) 1% dodge zbytecnost, 2% shield block pro SS shamana zbytecnost, imp healing wave je jen pro resto shamana, jinak taky zbytecnost...
Kdyz uz to chces mit do PvP tak se vykasli na SS a jdi do 0 / 30 / 21, protoze bez NS toho moc nevydrzis...
Zkus treba tohle http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=GZxVbdVzuxVcbx0xo |
[ Quart | Troll Warrior | Drak'thul ]
[ Orel | Ptaci Hnizdo | Enemy Territory ] |
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Quart
Starting Member
28 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2006 : 23:43:17
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| Jinak nejsilnejsi build do PvP je 30 / 0 / 21. |
[ Quart | Troll Warrior | Drak'thul ]
[ Orel | Ptaci Hnizdo | Enemy Territory ] |
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Stilgar
Average Member
1971 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2006 : 00:24:26
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Originally posted by Spavec
a nevim ja osobne jedu ench 11 bodu a zbytek resto na prvni talenty seru takze
0 //11//zbytek :o)))
jak to das je vicemene na tobe ne kazdymu to vyhovuje jinak
třeba ja healuju jak po obrne tak mam talenty i v rychlosti healu
mno....
Uz me neserte, neni to zadnej enchanting, enchancment ani nic jinyho zadny ench .. to je ENHANCEMENT.
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[Stilgar]
Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen.
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DarkFace
Junior Member
700 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2006 : 09:03:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar
quote:
Originally posted by Spavec
a nevim ja osobne jedu ench 11 bodu a zbytek resto na prvni talenty seru takze
0 //11//zbytek :o)))
jak to das je vicemene na tobe ne kazdymu to vyhovuje jinak
třeba ja healuju jak po obrne tak mam talenty i v rychlosti healu
mno....
Uz me neserte, neni to zadnej enchanting, enchancment ani nic jinyho zadny ench .. to je ENHANCEMENT.
ENCHANCEMENT1!!!
Bikoz U enchant ur weopanz with buffz! Wynfuri LOLOL!
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"I must not Fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is little death that brings total obliteration. I will let it pass through me and over me. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. " |
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Reyden
Senior Member
2747 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2006 : 16:06:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar
Uz me neserte, neni to zadnej enchanting, enchancment ani nic jinyho zadny ench .. to je ENHANCEMENT.
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Zenová povídka: Putuji takhle Severní Koreou a najednou potkám Gurrshaela a Pompa držíce se za ruce řkouce "Ano pane Reydene ... až tady jsme zjistili, že jsme míň než ta krabice u cesty ... vyhrál jsi, Ty jsi víc!". Usmál jsem se a odvětil jim: "Od té doby co nemám žádný cíl, už nebloudím!" |
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