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Daran
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 Posted - 28/08/2006 : 15:41:31
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 28/08/2006 : 15:43:01
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| Fake a dokonce prej potvrzenej, alespon u warriora. |
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JerzeeG
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Posted - 28/08/2006 : 15:43:41
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Originally posted by Daran
yey super díky moc
mno, jsi nejaky nadseny.. co takhle trochu skepticismu ohledne duveryhodnosti podanych informaci ? |
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JerzeeG
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Posted - 28/08/2006 : 15:44:36
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
Fake a dokonce "prej" potvrzenej fake. U warriora.
tak to je fake faku, ne ?  |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 28/08/2006 : 15:51:14
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Originally posted by JerzeeG
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
Fake a dokonce "prej" potvrzenej fake. U warriora.
tak to je fake faku, ne ?
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-Mike-
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Posted - 28/08/2006 : 15:56:33
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
Fake a dokonce prej potvrzenej fake. U warriora.
ten potvrzenej warrior fake je neco jinyho. |
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Azgalor
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-Mike-
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 28/08/2006 : 22:05:33
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Originally posted by -Mike-
tady ten fake mate oficialne:
http://worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/talents-and-spells.html
Mno jo, ale tohle uz je na urovni. Tedy az na ten mortal strike a +300 dmg chacha |
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Kořka
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Azgalor
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Seth
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Posted - 28/08/2006 : 23:58:48
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Originally posted by Azgalor
Jestli to je se Shield Reflection pravda, tak super.
A ty talenty super, že by se konečně dalo hrát s protec warrem PVP?
Precti si ostatni povolani a pak mozna pochopis ze hrani s warrem mozna tak super nebude.
Je mi z toho nabliti, kdyz si procitam ability, ktere by warri meli mit uz v zakladu a oni to daji jinym povolanim
Osobne se mi ani do BC moc nechce (s warrem). MOzna si vyzkousim support paladina a tim to hasne. |
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Azgalor
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Pertha
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 08:03:11
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Originally posted by Azgalor
No jo, třeba lock má dobré spely - Seed of Corrruption.
Btw. Co by meli mit warrove a nemaj?
napr to zastitovani spoluhrace ktery dali paladinum ? |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 08:08:48
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NJ armsove 40pointove talent je sice cool, ale 5min cd? Ostatni povolani maji trosku specky jinde. Radsi meli dat zruseni restrikce na 2hand a mohl by jsi mit dva ..v offhandu Sulfuras a v main handu Might of Menethil.
V BC koukam, ze budou 10ti vterinove boje. Jsem nadsen. |
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Colldor
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 10:11:01
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Ten dw shaman bude mazec :P
A warr je taky solidne boostlej, hlavne ta specka na no rage cost, a pak treba spell reflect ktery s dobrym macrem bude smrtici zalezitost ... a k tommu ten stun talent na zacatku vetve = orc bude neporazitelnej za rogua a navic vsem ostatnim warrum se sanse zvednu (obzvlast kdyz je tam talent ktery bude generovat rage navic pokud je warr v stunu coz je taky uber)
A ten fury tree je na pve dmg delanej ... zvtsovani AP na ranu a procenta na hit z talentu, vic dmg v zerg stance ...
Def tree je taky boostlej docela dost... hlavne ten posledni talent na udrzovani agra
Me se to libi :) |
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Firian
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 10:21:42
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| Koukám že warrior je opravdu mistrem zbraní, bude mít nový talent na chance to hit o 3% kdežto šaman o 10% :-D |
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Rahman
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 11:00:19
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Uzasny talent na +10% staminy, ktery def warriorum vzali v nedavnem patchi jeste predtim, nez patch vysel live se zmenil na 5% staminy a je hluuuuboko v def tree, taky super...
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-Mike-
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Warlord
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 11:29:15
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
v BC koukam, ze budou 10ti vterinove boje. Jsem nadsen.
uz mas vymysleny no-rage-max-dmg-output-macro? |
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Colldor
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 11:43:29
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Originally posted by Firian
Koukám že warrior je opravdu mistrem zbraní, bude mít nový talent na chance to hit o 3% kdežto šaman o 10% :-D
Na to ale spatne koukas. Warr ma HAFO itemu co davaj an hit a da klidne i prez 15% bez problemu s uber gearem ovsem shaman ne ... takze ench shaman bude holt mit proste ten talent a nejaky ten + na hit z par itemu.
Navic, pokud shaman dostane dw tak proste ten hit bude muset mit bo zadnej shaman nepojede dw s 2% na hit protoze to nema cenu...
Imho je to v poradku.
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oniko
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 11:44:30
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tak to je dobry. kdyz jsem koukal na US stranky (pac ty EU, hadej 3x, nejely) bylo tam 5% do staminu u warru a na tech EU je 10. to je fajn, ze v tom maji blizzardi jasno, co s tema talentama udelaj.
Jinak docela se mi libi co udelali za talenty warlockum. Maga jsem nepochopil, roguna - no to je nejaky nacvik na aprilovy zertik - to nepude zabit takova mrcha. 20% cheap death, cloak of shadows a totalne nechapu ten talent na HPcka - vysmech warrum do xichtu |
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Colldor
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 11:44:38
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Originally posted by Warlord
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
v BC koukam, ze budou 10ti vterinove boje. Jsem nadsen.
uz mas vymysleny no-rage-max-dmg-output-macro?
talent + receklessnes + ms + ww + execute ... na tohle myslis? :p |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 11:57:56
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Za chvili to tady editnu a postnu vam svuj build ..budou dva. Prvni s Endless Rage a druhy bez  .
S Endless Rage a bez TM:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?050250203320150030135155000104005000000000000000000000000000000000
Bez ER a bez TM:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?050250203220150030130055000105025002020000000000000000000000000000
anebo se muzu vysrat na Second Wind a dat tri body do flurry. Ale Second Wind je imo imba! Rooty, frost novy a dalsi prasarny jsou na dennim poradku kazdeho PvP warriora. 
Souhlasim s nutnosti TM, ale pri druhym buildu budu stejne porad v zerg stanci a pri prvnim kdyz nahodim ER a prepnu se do zerg tak me netrapi ztrata rage, protoze je to zadarmo |
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Warlord
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 12:57:33
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Originally posted by Warlord
btw proc by ses mel prepinat do zerk stance? endless zapnes az v zerk stanci budes ne? ;-)
Jiste. Jenom jsem apeloval na to, ze me nemusi trapit kdyz budu mit v battle stance kotel rage. Zapnu ER a je mi to sumafuk. Stejne za 10 sekund otocim maximalne HS, MS, WW, Slam/HS pri 3.7 speed zbrane.
Jak je to vlastne pri slamu. Kdyz castim slam, muzu si zakliknout HS aniz bych ho zrusil?? Asi ne co.. |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 13:04:13
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| Miro to je ale blbej build. Improves disciples je imo uplna <>. Snad 1x v zivote jsem pouzil 30ti minutovou specku. Zastavam nazor ze se to nevyplati ani zapinat. Nechapu proc nemas improved charge, kdyz pri chargu + normal swingu muzes hned otocit MS. Vychazi ti to i tak anebo musis cekat na second swing? |
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Pepo
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 13:22:08
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| Jezis, BC vyjde za rok a vy vymyslate buildy .... este to 20x zmenia. |
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Firian
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 13:50:46
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Originally posted by oniko
Jinak docela se mi libi co udelali za talenty warlockum. Maga jsem nepochopil, roguna - no to je nejaky nacvik na aprilovy zertik - to nepude zabit takova mrcha. 20% cheap death, cloak of shadows a totalne nechapu ten talent na HPcka - vysmech warrum do xichtu
To je fakt proč rogue dostal HP já myslel že má být od přírody křehotinka což vyvažuje jeho super ofenzivní schopnosti. Natožpak 4% za 2 body, kam warrior musí vrazit 5 bodů na 5%. |
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Little
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 14:04:48
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quote:
Originally posted by Firian
To je fakt proč rogue dostal HP já myslel že má být od přírody křehotinka což vyvažuje jeho super ofenzivní schopnosti. Natožpak 4% za 2 body, kam warrior musí vrazit 5 bodů na 5%.
Ehm pocital sis to? Rogue v dmg equipu ma neco kolem 4,5k HP unbuffed +-. Tzn 4% je 180 HP. Woot..to si ty body strcim radsi nekam jinam.
Nehlede na to ze je to v combat stromu, ktery je primarne urceny na PVE, kde se zase na HP tak moc nehraje. |
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Warlord
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 14:11:43
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no, za deset vterin se toho da stihnout celkem hodne, mylsim ze takhle by to mohlo fungovat:
akorat nevim, jestli ten posledni HS/cleave bude zadarmo nebo ne... |
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Little
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 14:15:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Warlord
no, za deset vterin se toho da stihnout celkem hodne, mylsim ze takhle by to mohlo fungovat:
Udelal si peknou tabulku, ale global CD rozhodne neni 1sec |
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Firian
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 14:34:19
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Originally posted by Little
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Originally posted by Warlord
no, za deset vterin se toho da stihnout celkem hodne, mylsim ze takhle by to mohlo fungovat:
Udelal si peknou tabulku, ale global CD rozhodne neni 1sec
Taky mi to nesedí ale je to tím že na Cleave/HS se nevztahuje globální cooldown, protože jsou On next melee. |
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Little
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 14:42:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Firian
Taky mi to nesedí ale je to tím že na Cleave/HS se nevztahuje globální cooldown, protože jsou On next melee.
MS/WW/pummel? Tam ma vsude 1sec |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 15:24:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Pepo
Jezis, BC vyjde za rok a vy vymyslate buildy .... este to 20x zmenia.
BC vyjde v prosinci, coz neni za rok, ale za 4 mesice. Mozna se neco zmeni, ale spise bych nic moc necekal. |
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Magic
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 15:26:39
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| ok takže z toho co už je venku, jde odhadnout nejsilnější character na PvP solo a v grupě? a zapomeňte teď nad skill a equip. prostě teoreticky, při stějném skillu a relativně ve stejném equipu. a nerad bych slyšel že teoreticky je nejsilnější character každý, protože to neplatí ani teď :D |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 15:33:47
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Teoreticky je to na hovno. Urcit se to neda. Vicemene je to pouze o equipu. Warrior se spatnym klackem zabije tak rogue, se Sulfurasem ma obstojnou sanci i na maga, ktery je prakticky jeho primy counter.  |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 15:36:04
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| warlock nebo shadow priest |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 15:51:02
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| jako lock co bude mit 60% sanci na to ze bude immuni na fire/shadow na 4sec po tom co ho nekdo fire/shadow kouzlem trefi.... pohodka... kdyz te critne tak se vyleci a jeste ma instatni 1k+ 2sec stun aoe kouzlo jen s 2min CD :) v BC rozjedu locka.. je to jasny |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 15:58:52
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| Vedeli jste ze Blood Elf v BC nebude moci byt warrior? Jenom paladin. Chacha! |
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-Mike-
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 16:16:48
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
jako lock co bude mit 60% sanci na to ze bude immuni na fire/shadow na 4sec po tom co ho nekdo fire/shadow kouzlem trefi.... pohodka... kdyz te critne tak se vyleci a jeste ma instatni 1k+ 2sec stun aoe kouzlo jen s 2min CD :) v BC rozjedu locka.. je to jasny
No shadow priest ho nezabije a fire mag taky ne. Docela by me zajimal duel dvou locku.
To s tim ze BE nebude moci byt warr se vi uz docela dlouho.
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Warlord
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 16:41:12
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Originally posted by Little
quote:
Originally posted by Firian
Taky mi to nesedí ale je to tím že na Cleave/HS se nevztahuje globální cooldown, protože jsou On next melee.
MS/WW/pummel? Tam ma vsude 1sec
ja si prave ted za boha nemuzu vzpomenout jak to mam s tim globalnim cd... ja to tam flakam tak automaticky ze mam skoro pocit ze zadny global cd nemam |
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celdric
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 16:56:31
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quote:
Originally posted by -Mike-
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
jako lock co bude mit 60% sanci na to ze bude immuni na fire/shadow na 4sec po tom co ho nekdo fire/shadow kouzlem trefi.... pohodka... kdyz te critne tak se vyleci a jeste ma instatni 1k+ 2sec stun aoe kouzlo jen s 2min CD :) v BC rozjedu locka.. je to jasny
No shadow priest ho nezabije a fire mag taky ne. Docela by me zajimal duel dvou locku.
To s tim ze BE nebude moci byt warr se vi uz docela dlouho.
vyhraje ten co bude mit silnejsi wandku/peta... imo si myslim, ze tech 60% je jen nastrel(spis v to doufam) a ze to v klidku umravni na nejakych 20%... protoze jinak muzes jak uvidis locka se jen v klidku otocit a zdrhat (jako shadow priest) |
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beldor5
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 17:42:02
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| I DRuidovy new feral/resto stromy vypadaj opravdu brutalne.O novych standart kouzlech ani nemluvim.feral packa na pve ftw.Asi si toho druida na BC necham |
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http://volby.kategorie.cz/ |
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Firian
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 18:03:23
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quote:
Originally posted by beldor5
I DRuidovy new feral/resto stromy vypadaj opravdu brutalne.O novych standart kouzlech ani nemluvim.feral packa na pve ftw.Asi si toho druida na BC necham
Teď si děláš srandu nebo jsi to někde vyčetl? Já tam vidím u druida jen Coming soon... |
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beldor5
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JerzeeG
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 18:28:29
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kurva lidi, neserte me s tim global CD..
ja jsem presvedceny, ze u maga, shamana a drooda v caster forme mam global cd 1.5 sec.
kdezto u rogue nebo drooda v kocce je to 1sec.
(neberu ted v uvahu spatny ping/lag)
tak se me nesnazte zmast.. |
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Magic
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 18:40:49
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Originally posted by beldor5
I DRuidovy new feral/resto stromy vypadaj opravdu brutalne.O novych standart kouzlech ani nemluvim.feral packa na pve ftw.Asi si toho druida na BC necham
No jestli jsou ty screeny pravda, tak druid je moje jasná volba. |
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arachno
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Posted - 29/08/2006 : 21:27:08
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Originally posted by Firian
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Originally posted by beldor5
I DRuidovy new feral/resto stromy vypadaj opravdu brutalne.O novych standart kouzlech ani nemluvim.feral packa na pve ftw.Asi si toho druida na BC necham
Teď si děláš srandu nebo jsi to někde vyčetl? Já tam vidím u druida jen Coming soon...
hehe, uz vidim blbyho maga jak me dava do ovce, nacasti si fireball, dostanu ho a mam ummune na fire a hodi po me instantni pyroblast..nasere :D ... teda mne ne..ze sem si toho locka nenechal dpc :) |
ARACHNOOOOO aka Wu-Tang @ Drak'Thul |
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