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MegaDeath
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 Posted - 29/08/2006 : 22:17:58
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| ten lock se mi zda hodne prehnanej |
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vlkodlak
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556 Posts |
Posted - 29/08/2006 : 22:31:16
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| Nejaky nazor na rogua? |
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Azgalor
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MegaDeath
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1989 Posts |
Posted - 29/08/2006 : 23:53:19
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| btw jestli budu hrat jeste warra, tak endless rage - 41. bod v arms si rozhodne brat nebudu, enrage+deathwish mi da asi 100x tolik dmg |
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MegaDeath
Average Member
1989 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 00:02:14
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...no po pravde, ani 41. fury talent neni zadnej zazrak, jednou za 3 minuty te zesili presne jako jeden proc crusaderu
to zas vymyslel nakej kreten  |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 01:42:03
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
...no po pravde, ani 41. fury talent neni zadnej zazrak, jednou za 3 minuty te zesili presne jako jeden proc crusaderu
to zas vymyslel nakej kreten
mno vam to aspon tu dmg zvysi:)
my mame jako 41kovej talent ve skutecnosti vec ktera ti snizi celkovy dps :)) |
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nekrotyrael
Senior Member
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 02:12:43
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Originally posted by Azgalor
Lock je prehnanej, treba nastupce paladinu.
supa, moje volba <3 |
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qsubt
Junior Member
601 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 07:46:02
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| stejne se to jeste 5x zmeni nez vyjde BC a minimalne 2x hned v prvnim mesici po vydani BC. nekeri ste jak male deti |
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Deimos
New Member
440 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 09:27:18
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41 talent vo fury tree je uplna picovina.
to uz i ten improved berserker stance da vice ap ako č+ talent, nehlede na to ze kdyz na nej nepojedu tak si budu moct vybrat one handed specku, alebo axe specku co mi pomoze rozhodne viacej
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Who is General Failure?
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Shemiramoth
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4339 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 09:37:49
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No ona je uplna picovina i Endless rage. Muzes mit Flurry a Mortal Strike, coz je uplne mega combo. Second Wind je sice fajn, ale mam pocit, ze s ragi pri soucasnym dmg outputu u 2h zbrani problem neni + flurry = mraky rage + extra dmg output.
Treba takto:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?050250203220150030100055000105015012050000000000000000000000000000
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ko56
New Member
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 09:41:57
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| ano ale moc locku ten talent nebude mit .... |
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MegaDeath
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1989 Posts |
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Firian
Average Member
1047 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 10:15:04
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
No ona je uplna picovina i Endless rage. Muzes mit Flurry a Mortal Strike, coz je uplne mega combo. Second Wind je sice fajn, ale mam pocit, ze s ragi pri soucasnym dmg outputu u 2h zbrani problem neni + flurry = mraky rage + extra dmg output.
Treba takto:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?050250203220150030100055000105015012050000000000000000000000000000
o tom sem taky premejslel do PvE, skoda ze to nejde do PvP, bez tactical mastery se tam clovek gimpuje neskutecne
Možná to přesunutí Tactical mastery byl od Blizzardu tah, jak zabránit MS/Flurry buildu |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 10:23:00
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Originally posted by Firian
Možná to přesunutí Tactical mastery byl od Blizzardu tah, jak zabránit MS/Flurry buildu
myslim si to samy, prece jen.... burst z MS buildu s dmg boostem z flurry... |
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Shemiramoth
Moderator
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 10:36:19
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
quote:
Originally posted by Firian
Možná to přesunutí Tactical mastery byl od Blizzardu tah, jak zabránit MS/Flurry buildu
myslim si to samy, prece jen.... burst z MS buildu s dmg boostem z flurry...
To imo nemusi byt pravda. TM potrebujes pouze pri OP, jinak jsi stejne porad v zerg stanci (alespon ja). MS je univerzalni abilita, HS taky, WW je zerg, slam je universal. Pokud se zamyslim, tak TM nepotrebuju (mozna jeden bod v nem).
Charge (21rage), hit -->hamstring, BS, zerg stance. Nebo Charge, hit --> MS, zerg stance. Prepnuti do armsu kvuli OP je sice nutnost, ale 450dmg zpusobene tobe = 5rage. Tzn. ze na OP mas vzdycky i kdyz sam trefis hovno (napriklad kdyz rogue zapne evasion). Chce to otestovat, ale prave to flurry a Sulfuras (jina high dmg 2h zbran) to vyvazi co se generovani rage tyce vs jeji ztrata pri prepnuti stancu. Teoreticky by jsi nemel mit ztratu rage, pokud ji budes efektivne "spalovat".
Dalsi veci jsou cooldowny, takze se mi obcas stava, ze mam rage plnou prdel, ale nemam ji jak spalit.
Edit: Samozrejme je tam vzdycky ztrata nejake rage, ale prave 30% attack speed z flurry by tohle melo prekonat a navic jeste zlepsi dmg output. Pruser je spise v tom, ze po nerfu Flurry, ted procuje jenom na white crit a tim padem nemuzes byt prakticky perma ve flurry modu. |
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MegaDeath
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1989 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 11:00:32
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kazdej hraje jinak, ja obcas pouzivam treba disarm, je to docela dobra abilita, nekdy to zkus, na to se mi TM hodi, dalsi vec je kdyz uz dam overpower tak chci zpatky do zerk stance a dat treba WW/MS a timhle bych zas mel 0...
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Firian
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 11:03:15
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Víte co je nejvíc vzrušující?
Že v dalším expansionu už půjdou dát dvě 31-talent ability!
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 11:17:35
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
kazdej hraje jinak, ja obcas pouzivam treba disarm, je to docela dobra abilita, nekdy to zkus, na to se mi TM hodi, dalsi vec je kdyz uz dam overpower tak chci zpatky do zerk stance a dat treba WW/MS a timhle bych zas mel 0...
Disarm pouzivam velice vyjimecne a vetsinou pouze na paladiny. Ne ze bych o nem nevedel, ale zkratka rage investuju jinam. Je pravda, ze takto muzes otocit vice veci pri TM, pokud mas nadbytek rage. TM je rozhodne dobra specka a tedka ji mam na 5/5, ovsem to jsem nemel moznost mit flurry, coz nyni uz nebude platit.
Jak rikam, dokud se to neotestuje, tak nedokazu odhadnout jak tragicka bude ztrata rage a jak moc to ovlivni samotny combat. |
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pan.filuta
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145 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 12:46:37
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Originally posted by Firian
Že v dalším expansionu už půjdou dát dvě 31-talent ability!
to mě vysvětli, jak z 61 bodů uděláš 2x 31... |
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MegaDeath
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1989 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 12:57:44
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quote:
Originally posted by pan.filuta
quote:
Originally posted by Firian
Že v dalším expansionu už půjdou dát dvě 31-talent ability!
to mě vysvětli, jak z 61 bodů uděláš 2x 31...
no v dalsim expansion budes mit lvl80, v dalsim 90, 100... |
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pan.filuta
New Member
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 12:59:38
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
no v dalsim expansion budes mit lvl80, v dalsim 90, 100...
Jo, už mě to došlo, dík Já bral "další expansion" = TBC |
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Colldor
Gimp
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 13:23:59
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| A vi se uz kdy ma vyjit BC nebo alespon priblizne? |
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pan.filuta
New Member
145 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 13:58:41
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Originally posted by Colldor
A vi se uz kdy ma vyjit BC nebo alespon priblizne?
No obecně se předpokládá že před Vánocema.
viz FAQ na ofiko stránkách:
Q: When will the expansion be released? Will it be a simultaneous global launch? How much will it cost?
A: We will follow a careful, phased approach with the expansion. The target release date will be late 2006 in Europe, Korea, and North America (and those regions that play on North American realms), and we will work to ensure that the launches in mainland China and the regions of Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Macau take place as quickly as possible after that. This phased approach will help ensure a smooth and successful launch in all regions. Further details regarding launch timing and pricing will be revealed in the months ahead. |
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l0bos
New Member
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 14:06:16
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| Urcite pred vanocema,jde o prachy ne o nejaky balanc hry a content :P |
Drak'Thul <Cursed Corpses> |
Edited by - l0bos on 30/08/2006 14:13:40 |
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Firian
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 14:10:53
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Originally posted by l0bos
Urcite pred vanocema,jde o o prachy ne o nejaky balanc hry a content :P
To je fakt taky sázím na vánoční release i za cenu betatestu na platících klientech ;-) |
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celdric
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 15:24:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Firian
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Originally posted by l0bos
Urcite pred vanocema,jde o o prachy ne o nejaky balanc hry a content :P
To je fakt taky sázím na vánoční release i za cenu betatestu na platících klientech ;-)
ten uz probiha rok a pul...skoda jen, ze nemam pocit, ze by se server kod nejak vyrazne zlepsoval... |
no mmo
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nekrotyrael
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 15:29:33
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Originally posted by Firian
quote:
Originally posted by l0bos
Urcite pred vanocema,jde o o prachy ne o nejaky balanc hry a content :P
To je fakt taky sázím na vánoční release i za cenu betatestu na platících klientech ;-)
jsou to chytri kluci - misto aby platili za betatest, tak za nej jeste sami dostanou zaplaceno :) |
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AO: Ineea, Airashii, Nekrotyrael, Nanorexia @ RK5
Dune: Nanorexia @ Persephone
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Pertha
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 15:35:09
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quote:
Originally posted by nekrotyrael
quote:
Originally posted by Firian
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Originally posted by l0bos
Urcite pred vanocema,jde o o prachy ne o nejaky balanc hry a content :P
To je fakt taky sázím na vánoční release i za cenu betatestu na platících klientech ;-)
jsou to chytri kluci - misto aby platili za betatest, tak za nej jeste sami dostanou zaplaceno :)
zrejme byli na studiich ve Funcomu |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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nekrotyrael
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 15:41:20
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| to je mozne. ted jen cekam az fc ohlasi shamany a paly v le :) |
RL: LVL 1 S/S/S
AO: Ineea, Airashii, Nekrotyrael, Nanorexia @ RK5
Dune: Nanorexia @ Persephone
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Pertha
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 15:54:02
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Originally posted by nekrotyrael
to je mozne. ted jen cekam az fc ohlasi shamany a paly v le :)
jako ze by to byl vymennej pobyt ? |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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l0bos
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 16:00:46
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nene, v pristim datadisku bude v ramci zlepsovani kvality hry predstaven gnome paladin (orci zuby pro horde variantu) a tauren rogue (ruzovy kozich pro ally variantu). Kdo by se pachtil s novou classou, ze  |
Drak'Thul <Cursed Corpses> |
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Little
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 16:02:11
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A zavedou se instance pro 60 lidi, protoze se zjisti, ze 25-kove nedostatecne laguji  |
"End of hope, end of love, end of time. The rest is silence."
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nekrotyrael
Senior Member
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 16:16:55
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Originally posted by Pertha
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Originally posted by nekrotyrael
to je mozne. ted jen cekam az fc ohlasi shamany a paly v le :)
jako ze by to byl vymennej pobyt ?
tak nejak, v aocku budem mit fronty a 400 man instance a ve wowu se druidu budou tesit z cocoonu, acrobata, backstabu a dalsich srand. |
RL: LVL 1 S/S/S
AO: Ineea, Airashii, Nekrotyrael, Nanorexia @ RK5
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Pertha
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 16:18:40
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Originally posted by nekrotyrael
tak nejak, v aocku budem mit fronty a 400 man instance a ve wowu se druidu budou tesit z cocoonu, acrobata, backstabu a dalsich srand.
400 man ? tak to budou muset odstranit nemalo zon :) |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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nekrotyrael
Senior Member
3896 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 16:26:43
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| jasne, cim vic lidi, tim vic zabava |
RL: LVL 1 S/S/S
AO: Ineea, Airashii, Nekrotyrael, Nanorexia @ RK5
Dune: Nanorexia @ Persephone
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celdric
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Posted - 30/08/2006 : 16:29:50
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Originally posted by l0bos
nene, v pristim datadisku bude v ramci zlepsovani kvality hry predstaven gnome paladin (orci zuby pro horde variantu) a tauren rogue (ruzovy kozich pro ally variantu). Kdo by se pachtil s novou classou, ze
omg gief tauren rogue!! my wet dreams come true! |
no mmo
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Hosty
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1177 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2006 : 23:05:43
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| Imo je stracanie rage pri meneni stance blbost, mali by to zrusit aj s TM a bolo by to ok ale suhlasim s Shemiramothom, ze to treba otestovat |
-Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power. Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free- |
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MegaDeath
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1989 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2006 : 00:17:37
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| do high end pve menit stance nepotrebujes, takze MS/flurry bude fachat urcite, do pvp bych s tim nevlez |
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Shemiramoth
Moderator
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Posted - 31/08/2006 : 08:09:43
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
do high end pve menit stance nepotrebujes, takze MS/flurry bude fachat urcite, do pvp bych s tim nevlez
Ja to pak otestuju a napisu co jsem byl za idiota ok? |
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Pertha
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Posted - 31/08/2006 : 08:11:58
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
do high end pve menit stance nepotrebujes, takze MS/flurry bude fachat urcite, do pvp bych s tim nevlez
skutecne ? :) a hral si ho nekdy ? |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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Rakhen
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Posted - 31/08/2006 : 08:48:52
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
do high end pve menit stance nepotrebujes, takze MS/flurry bude fachat urcite, do pvp bych s tim nevlez
Overpower nic? |
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MegaDeath
Average Member
1989 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2006 : 09:27:07
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| jednou za cas overpower vs flurry... schvalne co bys uprednostnil... |
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MegaDeath
Average Member
1989 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2006 : 09:29:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Pertha
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
do high end pve menit stance nepotrebujes, takze MS/flurry bude fachat urcite, do pvp bych s tim nevlez
skutecne ? :) a hral si ho nekdy ?
s warrem jsem byl nejdal u nefaria, to je pravda, ale krome obcasnyho tankovani, kde sedim celou dobu v def. stance (krome vaela, kde sem koncil v battle stance a daval executy), jsem snad krome par overpoweru stance nikdy menit nemusel |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 31/08/2006 : 09:32:26
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| Taky myslim, ze neni nutny switchovat na OP. A obvzlast ne u DW (ja bych teda neswitchoval) |
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Warlord
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Posted - 31/08/2006 : 10:16:28
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
Taky myslim, ze neni nutny switchovat na OP. A obvzlast ne u DW (ja bych teda neswitchoval)
kdyz switchnes kvuli OP, mas temer jisty Flurry a to je to, co u DWieldera dela tu dmg... |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 31/08/2006 : 10:22:45
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Originally posted by Warlord
kdyz switchnes kvuli OP, mas temer jisty Flurry a to je to, co u DWieldera dela tu dmg...
bejvavalo ...Increase your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike on a normal melee swing.  |
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Warlord
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Posted - 31/08/2006 : 10:51:55
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
bejvavalo ...Increase your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike on a normal melee swing.
aha, takze biely krit :)
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Seth
Senior Member
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Posted - 31/08/2006 : 20:22:03
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ale HOVNO
flurry zveda attack o 30 procent na 3 swingy, ale jen na white dmg....
crit muzete dat cimkoliv a spusti to flurry
OP je vazne dobra na to, ze clovek switchne, OP, a jede ve flurry |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 31/08/2006 : 21:06:34
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quote:
Originally posted by Seth
ale HOVNO
flurry zveda attack o 30 procent na 3 swingy, ale jen na white dmg....
crit muzete dat cimkoliv a spusti to flurry
OP je vazne dobra na to, ze clovek switchne, OP, a jede ve flurry
no moment, op neni white dmg..a pokud to stale procuje. NERF!
Increase your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings after dealing a critical strike on a normal melee swing (normal melee swing je bud white dmg anebo jakykoliv, ale fakt nevim) --> tento popisek je u Flurry u BC talentu. Tzn. ze nas ceka nerf? |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 31/08/2006 : 21:18:24
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| ne, je to tak, ze flurry procuje i ze specek, akorat ze blizzard to nezmenil ve svejch talent calculatorech, tusim, ze treba na wowhead to je dobre, ted nevim jiste |
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