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WereHamster
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 Posted - 17/01/2006 : 09:23:05
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Originally posted by Pepo
Problem je ten ze warlockov ani druidov nehrava tolko ludi .... a preto ich ani nie je tolko v raidoch .
Neviem presne tie dmg statistiky, ani neviem ako to konkretne vychadza, ale moj osobny nazor je ze warlock v dmg je dost blizko takemu magovi ...
Problém není v počtu warlocků.. těch je dost..
Ano, není problém přeagrovat cokoliv, pokud máš destruction build + trinkety. |
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qsubt
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Posted - 17/01/2006 : 10:15:43
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Originally posted by lukass
misto toho +10%do dmg dane skoly magie. Coz se vyplati vic pri mobech,lidech z velkym resistem.
no to by i odpovidalo tech 10%, kdes to vycetl ze to tak je? |
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lukass
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Posted - 17/01/2006 : 13:44:47
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Originally posted by qsubt
no to by i odpovidalo tech 10%, kdes to vycetl ze to tak je?
Obcas se vyplati podivat se, co se na ty ikonce pise.
reducing Shadow and Arcane resistances by 75 and increasing Shadow and Arcane damage taken by 10% |
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pan.filuta
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Posted - 17/01/2006 : 14:52:14
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Originally posted by WereHamster
Problém není v počtu warlocků.. těch je dost..
warlock je ale každopádně nejmíň početnej ze všech classů...
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php uvádí, že locků je 9% z celkovýho počtu hráčů (ještě o chlup míň než druidů) |
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KalTy
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Posted - 22/01/2006 : 01:34:56
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No dlouho jsem nehral, ale tipuju ze nejlepsi bude vsechno do destruction, ale vez ze budes hodne brat aggro, takze bud impika na zivoty nebo voidwalkera na udrzeni potvory dal od tela..i se Sucubou se to da... Budes muset hodne chlastat spotreba many je velka.. a delat hodne dusi kvuli instatnimu Shadowburn. Obecne oproti magovi je expovani s warlockem pomalejsi, musis se starat o demona, udrzovat rozumnej pocet dusi, jedine rozumne kouzlo je Shadow bolt..
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ok, no jelikoz sem ovsem u wlocka novacek tak bych potreboval do ceho mam postupne davat talent... sice je dobry ze ste se schodly na des. ovsem nevim co z jeho skillu vybirat.
Kazdou podrobnejsi poznamku bych mooc uvital ( zatim dik moc za odpovedi ) |
Kalty NE Hunter
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qsubt
Junior Member
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Posted - 22/01/2006 : 13:37:38
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Originally posted by KalTy
No dlouho jsem nehral, ale tipuju ze nejlepsi bude vsechno do destruction, ale vez ze budes hodne brat aggro, takze bud impika na zivoty nebo voidwalkera na udrzeni potvory dal od tela..i se Sucubou se to da... Budes muset hodne chlastat spotreba many je velka.. a delat hodne dusi kvuli instatnimu Shadowburn. Obecne oproti magovi je expovani s warlockem pomalejsi, musis se starat o demona, udrzovat rozumnej pocet dusi, jedine rozumne kouzlo je Shadow bolt..
ok, no jelikoz sem ovsem u wlocka novacek tak bych potreboval do ceho mam postupne davat talent... sice je dobry ze ste se schodly na des. ovsem nevim co z jeho skillu vybirat.
Kazdou podrobnejsi poznamku bych mooc uvital ( zatim dik moc za odpovedi )
ja si nemyslim ze na expeni je destruction nejlepsi volba, a uz vubec ne "vsechno do" |
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qsubt
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Posted - 22/01/2006 : 15:14:12
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jeste bych mel dotaz, ted kdyz dostanu ten legionarsky chest+gate a zkratim tim immolete o dalsi 0.2s asi si z hecu zkusim respec na destrction abych to taky vyzkousel ... 7/5/zbytek
moje dotaz... zaklad destru je jasny ale par bodu tam plave takze nekdo kdo ma zkusenosti s destru vetvi bych prosil o reakci.. 5bodu mne plave a rozhoduju se mezi
improved searing pain - nevim nejak sem tomu neprisel na chut, ted dokonce i manove slevnilo, 10% navic kritu, co s tim?
aftermath - tu bych si to zhodnotil i sam kdybych vedel co presne DAZE zpusobuje? co zpusobuje? zpomali? nebo co je to DAZE ve svete WoW?
improved lash of pain - nevim, asi ne, sucka bude hlavne jako "uspavatko"
cataclysm k nicemu,
improved firebolt to spatne neni, ale bez improved impa asi k nicemu
a dotaz dva... nenahodil by mne nekdo makro ve stylu:
mackam buton X -
1 check jesli je na targetu aktivni immolate
1YES cast Conflagrate
1NO cast Immolate
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Pepo
Average Member
2118 Posts |
Posted - 22/01/2006 : 21:53:45
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Koron
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DarkFace
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pan.filuta
New Member
145 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2006 : 15:41:11
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Originally posted by Koron
chybi mu tam mozna searing pain ... ale nevim jak moc se to da v pvp vyuzit je to rychly ale jak casto to bude vyhodny zatim nevim
Já bych řekl, že SP je v PvP využitelnej dost, je to rychlý a laciný, s destruct buildem pak bude dávat docela šlupky. Pokud potřebuješ rychlou damage (třeba na doražení zdrhajícího) tak než zakouzlíš shadowbolt, bude dávno v pr....
Ale nemám s tím žádnou praktickou zkušenost, já mám Demonology + Affliction |
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Koron
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Posted - 20/02/2006 : 15:44:10
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no me se tohle pomaly ukusovani nelibi .. nebavi me cekat az nepritel umre ... proto destruction ... co je mi platny ze doty nadelaji ohromnou dmg za 30s kdyz si za 5s lehnu ...
nehraju pvp duely ... ale BG ... takze nemam cas koukat jak jeden pobiha ve fearu a dalsich 8 me mlati
potrebuju dmg abych jednoho zavbil a moh se venovat dalsimu |
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Cotouch
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Posted - 20/02/2006 : 15:51:36
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Originally posted by Koron
no me se tohle pomaly ukusovani nelibi .. nebavi me cekat az nepritel umre ... proto destruction ... co je mi platny ze doty nadelaji ohromnou dmg za 30s kdyz si za 5s lehnu ...
nehraju pvp duely ... ale BG ... takze nemam cas koukat jak jeden pobiha ve fearu a dalsich 8 me mlati
potrebuju dmg abych jednoho zavbil a moh se venovat dalsimu
tak na to je spíš lepší mág :-) |
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Koron
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Posted - 20/02/2006 : 15:59:29
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no mag nema fear a seduce :)
vim ze warlock muze delat dobrou dmg tak se ptam esli mam ty talenty dobre rozvzene ... mam ted level 45 a chystam se to predelat a nemam ty talenty moc vyzkousene ... ty v destructin ...
tak potrebuju vedet esli mi tam neco zasadniho nechybi nebo tam zase nemam nejakou zbytecnost navic ...
takze to muzu budto za prachy vyzkouset nebo se zeptat ... radsi zvojim tu levnejsi cestu a zeptam se a budu doufat ze se najde nekdo kdo do destruction vidi :) |
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pan.filuta
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Posted - 20/02/2006 : 16:04:17
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Mrkni na oficiální fóra, je tam pěknej průvodce různejma buildama.
http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warlock-en&t=13126&p=1&tmp=1#post13126
Konkrétně tobě by mohlo vyhovovat tohle:
4.4.4 Firemancer (Aka Drakedog’s build)
This is how one of the world’s best warlock players had put his talents before he quitted.
Note that this sports more firedamage than the shadowdamage, so this is not optimal for pvper, who is going to do Molten Core...
However, patch notes are telling that the conflagrate is getting buffed up (by making it as instant) when patch 1.7 comes in. So after the patch, I think that I have to try this one. Seems to be quite promising.
Affliction Talents: 7
5 Improved Corruption
2 Improved Life Tap
Demonology talents: 7
2 Improved Healthstone
5 Demonic Embrace
Destruction Talents: 37
5 Cataclysm
5 Aftermatch
5 Bane
5 Devastation
1 Shadowburn
2 Destructive Reach
2 Imprved Searing Pain
5 Improved Immolate
1 Ruin
5 Inferno
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DarkFace
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Posted - 20/02/2006 : 18:51:46
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Originally posted by pan.filuta
Mrkni na oficiální fóra, je tam pěknej průvodce různejma buildama.
http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warlock-en&t=13126&p=1&tmp=1#post13126
Konkrétně tobě by mohlo vyhovovat tohle:
4.4.4 Firemancer (Aka Drakedog’s build)
This is how one of the world’s best warlock players had put his talents before he quitted.
Note that this sports more firedamage than the shadowdamage, so this is not optimal for pvper, who is going to do Molten Core...
However, patch notes are telling that the conflagrate is getting buffed up (by making it as instant) when patch 1.7 comes in. So after the patch, I think that I have to try this one. Seems to be quite promising.
Affliction Talents: 7
5 Improved Corruption
2 Improved Life Tap
Demonology talents: 7
2 Improved Healthstone
5 Demonic Embrace
Destruction Talents: 37
5 Cataclysm
5 Aftermatch
5 Bane
5 Devastation
1 Shadowburn
2 Destructive Reach
2 Imprved Searing Pain
5 Improved Immolate
1 Ruin
5 Inferno
1 Conflagrate
Sorry ale Drakedogg ma k najlepsiemu lockovi dost daleko.
Bohuzial Destrolock zije kratsie a a nemusi zabit nikoho, kym Affli lock nadotuje vsetko co sa hyba a drha prec.
Nie je to best build do Organized PvP, ale tam by ti nepomohla ani Destruction, cize...
Fear pouzivas v organized PvP jedine na healerov (palat ;p), kym dotujes zvysok.
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"I must not Fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is little death that brings total obliteration. I will let it pass through me and over me. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. " |
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qsubt
Junior Member
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Posted - 20/02/2006 : 19:10:09
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Originally posted by Koron
no mag nema fear a seduce :)
vim ze warlock muze delat dobrou dmg tak se ptam esli mam ty talenty dobre rozvzene ... mam ted level 45 a chystam se to predelat a nemam ty talenty moc vyzkousene ... ty v destructin ...
tak potrebuju vedet esli mi tam neco zasadniho nechybi nebo tam zase nemam nejakou zbytecnost navic ...
takze to muzu budto za prachy vyzkouset nebo se zeptat ... radsi zvojim tu levnejsi cestu a zeptam se a budu doufat ze se najde nekdo kdo do destruction vidi :)
asi takto, stejne respecnes 50x, takze doporucuju vyzkouset uplne vsechno mozne, pokud chces vylozene PVP build, tak dle mne je nejlepsi destruction...
improved SP je velmi hezka vec, krituje dost casto /10% za talent, 5% za devastation, k tomu nake itemy, neco malo za int, blabla, k tomu mas ruin, s +dmg gearem a ruinem sou mne to dela supky zhruba po 750-800 myslim, a to mam v podstate blue equip, pokud enpocitam 2x "purple" od vendora z AV. S wlockem dokazes dat hodne velkou dmg v kratkem case, sucuba muze uspavat, pripadne impr imp ti da dalsich 50staminy a k tomu strili po 130 ty svoje ohnive kulicky. co si budem namlouvat, doty v PVP sou skoro k nicemu, dispell je otazka par okamziku, mozna v nakem peknem shadow dmg gearu to k necemu muze byt, nemam zkusenost.
Osobne pouzivam z dotu krom CoE jenom korupci a to skoro jenom na roguy aby mne nezmizeli, jinak zacinam skoro vyhradne immolatem, pak searing pain na te klavese mam zaroven i atak peta, posledni dobou vetsinou impa, a pak zalezi na okolnostech v zaloze shadowburn, conflagrate, muzu dalsi searing pain, krituje fakt pekne docela, a kdyz de z tlusteho do tenkych tak instant v podobe death coil:)) Klasicky shadowbolt ani ted moc nepouzivam.
zkousel sem na PVP i klasiku SM+ruin, nerikam ze sem byl nespokojeny, neni to zle, siphon nightfall ale je to tak cele o nahode, navic to docela zralo manu, aspon sem mel ten pocit, ale jelikoz neni v mych casovych moznostech chodit MC Onyx etc a bonusy z PVP setu sou koncipovane na searing pain + immolate tak sem presel na destruction.
Ted jeste ubazuju ze bych poslal k certu zlepseneho impa a ty 4 body prdl do aftermath, nemusi to byt zle.. ale zas zlepseny imp a obyc imp je 100 a 1, a chodit se suckou neni spatne, nicmene ze nekoho seducnu a nikdo z mojich to za sekundu nebrejkne je skoro zazrak. felhunter neni spatny, ale proti meele si snim akorat tak vytrit... mozna chce troku triku:)
rozhodne ten "muj" build neni 2x idealni na pve, soull ink+felhunter je zas smrtici kombo pro vsechny ostatni caster classy:) doporucuju vyzkouset vsechny 3 vetve a pak ruzne kombinace:)
PS: v nekterem tom buildu sem videl cosi ze tam nebyl impr corrupce coz je podle mne chyba, tam tych 5 bodu podle mne byt musi, to je jedine co to jeste dela v pvp pouzitelne ze je to insta a muzes to kaastit za behu/pri uteku, a o impr life tap ani nemluve.
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jo a ted sem si jeste sestrojil arcane dragona jeste sem nemel cas ho poradne vyzkouset ale bufuje target myslim +60 fire dmg, dalsi duvod proc do pvp destr pro mne:) a kua ve stredu dostanu champion capku a ramena, na capku mam nachystany enchant 100HP, no bude a jest
nafarmit v AB tu dyku nebo hul a bude to skoro;] jediny problem ze v AB to ovladaji nabuseni alici ve fixed grupach takze beh na dlouhou trat:( |
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pan.filuta
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Posted - 20/02/2006 : 22:55:17
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Originally posted by DarkFace
Sorry ale Drakedogg ma k najlepsiemu lockovi dost daleko.
No jasně, já jsem toho průvodce nepsal;-) |
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Pepo
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Posted - 21/02/2006 : 00:49:36
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qsubt
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Koron
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plussminuss
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Koron
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pan.filuta
New Member
145 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2006 : 11:57:38
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| Ještě k těm destruction talentům - už je opravenej ten bug s dvěma bodama v Improved Firebolt? Mám dojem, že dřív byl ten druhej bod vyhozenej, protože firebolt byl stejně omezenej globálním cooldownem... |
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qsubt
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Posted - 21/02/2006 : 18:17:10
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pritom je pekny, kdyz hodim soulfire a target zustane stunnutej v pyroclasm 
ale skoro nevyuzijes, nebo tak malo ze je to vyhozeny bod resp 2 dle mne, a mozna ve volne krajine pripadne 1vs1 kdyz mas tu sucku tak se to sikne ze po seduce zakastis SF, stun a mas cas 3s, ad BG ve warsongu neni cas na to abys nekde 4s stal a cekal az se nabije SF, nebo resp muzes, ale to uz ti druid pronasi vlajku koridorem priestu a loladinu do svoji baze, v AB to vyuzijes taky hodne malo, tam sice cas mas, ale vetsinou nez se ti nabije mas nas sobe silence nebo jiny break, celkove vzato SF hezka DMG, ale taklent dava "jen" cca 25%ntni sanci na stun, nic vic. Fire Rain a Hellfire v PVP snad ani nevyzujies, mozna leda v AV v par situacich, mozna pri braneni vlajky v AB - spis ne, a ve warsongu vubec.
SP je v PVE na pikacu, to je jasne, ale nestoji skoro zadnou manu v dava pekne supky, nice pvp. Firelock je naprd pokud nekdo chodi MC, tam je lepsi SM+ruin si myslim. to si jenom myslim, nikdy sem v MC nebyl totiz:))
ad bug s impem, myslim ze to jeste odstranene neni, nebo je? no zkouset to nebudu, prece jenom retalenty za 40G uz nejsou zadna sranda;] |
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plussminuss
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Posted - 22/02/2006 : 08:35:41
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zkouseli jsi nekdy u vlajky v AB delat Hellfire? je krasny, kdyz se vsichni kolem nemuzou hybat a jeste kdyz te zabijej, tak maj za tebe min honoru, ptze si delas dmg sam 
a jelikoz chodim AB/WSG se sucubou, tak se vzdycky najde cas na soulfire :))
co se tyce SP, tak spousta lidi ma veci z MC a nejaky ten FR, takze zase tak zavratna dmg to neni, to je lepsi hodit immolate, to udela vetsi dmg a jeste muzu hodit conflgrate.
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beldor5
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Posted - 22/02/2006 : 10:07:51
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Originally posted by plussminuss
zkouseli jsi nekdy u vlajky v AB delat Hellfire? je krasny, kdyz se vsichni kolem nemuzou hybat a jeste kdyz te zabijej, tak maj za tebe min honoru, ptze si delas dmg sam
a jelikoz chodim AB/WSG se sucubou, tak se vzdycky najde cas na soulfire :))
co se tyce SP, tak spousta lidi ma veci z MC a nejaky ten FR, takze zase tak zavratna dmg to neni, to je lepsi hodit immolate, to udela vetsi dmg a jeste muzu hodit conflgrate.
mno vetsinou to spis okamzite znamena stun/fear/dis/silence nebo neco podobneho..:) si nepamatuju kdy nejakej warlock skousel HF dele nez 1-2sec |
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DarkFace
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Posted - 22/02/2006 : 10:36:52
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| Hellfire pouzivam, aby som sa co najskor zabil a tak dal superovi co najmensi honor ;p |
"I must not Fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is little death that brings total obliteration. I will let it pass through me and over me. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. " |
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qsubt
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Posted - 22/02/2006 : 10:40:16
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Originally posted by plussminuss
zkouseli jsi nekdy u vlajky v AB delat Hellfire? je krasny, kdyz se vsichni kolem nemuzou hybat a jeste kdyz te zabijej, tak maj za tebe min honoru, ptze si delas dmg sam
a jelikoz chodim AB/WSG se sucubou, tak se vzdycky najde cas na soulfire :))
co se tyce SP, tak spousta lidi ma veci z MC a nejaky ten FR, takze zase tak zavratna dmg to neni, to je lepsi hodit immolate, to udela vetsi dmg a jeste muzu hodit conflgrate.
prave to je ono, kdy se ti to stane ze se VSICHNI nemuzou hybat? sance je "jenom" 24%, v tom je podle mne svizel uzitnosti toho talentu. Kdyby to bylo aspon 60 nebo 70% klidne i stun jenom na 2s bylo by to lepsi.
ad SP ja semn erikal holy SP a nic jineho Immolatem zacnes, pak v poho stihnes ze 3 SP pricemz dycky aspon jedne critne za 800+ (PVP set mas docela uzitecny bohus k SP, 50% sanci ze pri ujme dmg ti nenaskakuji dalsi 0.Xs na cast) do toho ti pali improved imp, 3x SP ti casove vyjde na 4.5s trochu vic ale muzes upravovat taktiku ze treba po 2SP zaradis neplanovane DC, kdezto SF stojis a 4s cekas a doufas ze ti cil neutece z dosahu nebo se mezitim neco jineho nesemele. Se Suckou po Seduce je kazdopadne SF the best, ale jinak by mne zajimalo jak casto na neho dojde rec, celkove by mne zajimalo kolikrat ho zakastis treba behem jednoho ABecka:]
Helfire + vlajka to sice hezke je, jenze ono zalezi proti komu hrajes, proti jednomu nema Hellfire cenu a kdyz je jich vic, bud mas fear, nebo si sheeply nebo te zezadu bodaji 2 roguove nebo.. no sak to znas, moznosti je dost:) A hellfire, manove neni zrovna levny:) |
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plussminuss
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Posted - 22/02/2006 : 11:11:31
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ja jedu pres SB hlavne, proto nejedu talenty SP
jinak kdyz je to 1v1, taky se to celkem casto stava, tak na SP vubec neprijde, seduce, CoS, SB, immolate, coflgrate, seduce a repete, kdyz se neco nepovede, tak DC
SF bych pouzival castejc, kdyby nechtel shard...
a na manu se v BG nehraje 
jinak kazdy mame svoji taktiku jak hrajeme a to je pekny na lockovi, ze jsou tri stromy a nekolik zpusobu jak ho hrat, ne jak nektere class, kde se jede vicemene to samy |
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Koron
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Posted - 22/02/2006 : 11:30:10
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je nejaky obecny postup jak na maga? ... a obracene zase jak s magem na warlocka? abych vedel co na me bude zkouset :)
jasne ze to bude pripad od pripadu ale nejaka obecna pravidla .. co delat co nedelat a tak a hlavne co bude delat on kvuli pripadny obrane |
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tsawo
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Posted - 22/02/2006 : 11:55:56
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Originally posted by Koron
je nejaky obecny postup jak na maga? ... a obracene zase jak s magem na warlocka? abych vedel co na me bude zkouset :)
jasne ze to bude pripad od pripadu ale nejaka obecna pravidla .. co delat co nedelat a tak a hlavne co bude delat on kvuli pripadny obrane
Z oficialniho fora... (bohuzel originalni link uz nefunguje)
Trosku objemnejsi ale poucne ;)
Recently i saw an enormous amount of posts regarding warlocks, deathcoil, and how overpowered and imbalanced warlocks are.
To help you fellow players, i've decided to write a guide, being a warlock myself, so that more people can succefully defeat warlocks on their server.
This will be a comprehensive guide containing images, spoilers, tactics, and tips to defeat this imba class.
For the purposes of this guide, i'll assume the warlock is Soul-link specced, since it is the most imbalanced build as people say.
Preparation
You can find an SL warlock outside IF or Orgrimmar, this is the place were most SL warlocks hang out.
To initiate combat, you should approach the warlock and talk to him. He will say something about how nerfed warlock were, and how they could not kill anyone in previous patches, and how they became godlike while mages are now water dispensers. After you talk to him, click DUEL to start the fight.
PHASE ONE
You should position yourself as shown in this image:
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warlockmod8jo.jpg
The warlock will begin the fight without a pet, because he will feel too overpowered to use a pet against you. MT#1 and MT#2 should position the warlock so that his back will face the tank farther away from the IF door. It is advisable for them to have at least 350 shadow resistance, and one of them should also have 250 fire resist minimum. (This is explained later). Greater Shadow Protection pots are also a good commodity, as Whipper root tubers and +50 stamina potions from the quest in Blasted Lands.
The melee DPS group (shown as YELLOW in the pic) should stay behind the warlock, near the tank farther away from the Gate. This is done because they will need to retreat behind the tank and bandage, from time to time. (Bandage spot is shown on the pic)
The rest of the raid should position as shown in the picture. It is important for the raid to have about 120-200 shadow resistance, which will help sustain the damage. Keep in mind you will need at least 2 dispellers for each debuff type, otherwise you will wipe pretty soon.
During Phase 1, the warlock will perform a series of attacks:
SHADOW BOLT: A bolt of shadow is launched every 4 seconds to the tank that has aggro, causing 1200 to 2500 shadow damage, depending on resistance. A shadow bolt will crit between 3500 and 6500 damage, again depending on the target resistance. This is were MT#2 should come into play: If a Shadowbolt crits MT#1, he will have a debuff that will increase Shadow damage by a Zillion times. This is when MT#2 should taunt the warlock to prevent MT#1 from dying. MT#1 will then do the same thing once another Shadowbolts crits MT#2.
Curse of Doom: Every 1 minute, the warlock will cast CoD on a random raid member. This member should move outside the raid and unload full DPS, since he will die within the minute.
Shadowburn: The warlock will cast Shadowburn everytime he changes target. If one of the raid members gets aggro, he will suffer shadowburn and instantly die. It is important not to OverDPS, or members will die one after another.
Fear: The warlock will cast Fear on a randomy raid member, every few seconds. You should provide everyone with Fear Ward if you have it, and dispel fear ASAP, especcially on MTs and Healers.
Phase 1 is relatively easy and will last until the warlock has 70% life. This can take between 3 and 5 minutes, depending on your equipment.
PHASE TWO
When the warlock reaches 70% life, he will instacast a felhunter and Soul Link it. This is when the fight becomes harder.
Note: You cannot kill the warlock while the felhunter is alive. If you try to, the warlock will say that It's not his time yet and will use an healthstone, which will probably render the fight impossible in phase three.
A few moments before Phase two, the raid should move as shown in the pic.
http://img336.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warlock2mod5yb.jpg
Note: MT#3 and MT#4, which are tanking the felhunter, should stay at least 10 yards away from the warlock
Phase two is all about killing the felhunter.
The felhunter CANNOT BE DAMAGED by magic, as it has very high magic resistance. Also, during phase two, you should not magic debuff the pet or the warlock, otherwise the felhunter will remove the debuff and heal himself.
MT#1 & #2 should stay on the warlock with a few healers, while the melee DPS group will take down the Felhunter, while the magic
DPS group focuses on the warlock. During this phase, the warlock will receive next to no damage, as he is Soul Linked to the pet.
During Phase two, the warlock will have a new attack at his disposal:
Hellfire: Every 20 seconds, the warlock will cast Hellfire and hit anyone within 10 yards for an incredible amount of Fire damage.
Every DPS class standing near the warlock should retreat as shown in the picture and bandage as soon as he casts hellfire. Only the MT with Fire resistance should remain near the warlock. This is done because if the warlock finds no one within melee range during Hellfire, he will summon an Infernal and wipe the raid.
When the Felhunter is dead, PHASE THREE begins.
PHASE THREE
Phase three will begin as soon as the Felhunter is dead.
Notes: The warlock should be at around 40% health now. If he's any higher than that, you'll prolly not be able to take him down before you wipe. Also, if you have more than 6-7 dead members by now, you will probably wipe as you can't do enough DPS.
During phase three, the warlock will use all his arsenal to kill you.
Curse of Shadow/Elements/Agony: Every 10 seconds, the warlock will cast a random Curse on the entire raid. These debuffs should be removed as soon as possible. If CoE or CoS are not removed after 10 seconds, the warlock will cast Immolate/Shadowbolt on the member, killing him.
Howl of Terror: The Warlock will randomy cast HoT, hitting all the melees around him. You need to be quick and dispel Fear on the MTs otherwise they will lose aggro.
Death coil: The most imbalanced spell in the warlock's arsenal. This spell will be cast on a random raid member killing him, and will heal the warlock. CT_raidassist will warn you when the warlock is about to cast Deathcoil, and all Healers should hide behind the tank. If more than 3-4 healers are killed, the MTs will not be able to sustain damage and die, wiping the raid.
Note: In this pic ( http://img336.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warlock2mod5yb.jpg. ) an arrows point to the out-of-LOS spot for Healers. This is where you should hide when the warlock is about to deathcoil
PHASE FOUR
When the warlock is at 5% life, he does an emote saying "Imba Warlock performs one last service for Blizzard" He will then cast Curse of Doom on the entire raid. This means you need to kill him within one minute, or you will wipe. You should have at least 15-20 DPS classes still alive here, otherwise you won't be able to kill him in time.
If you manage to kill him within the minute, congratulations! You just killed the hardest boss currently in World of Warcraft!
here is original link:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warlock&t=851091&p=1&tmp=1#post851091 |
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Edited by - tsawo on 22/02/2006 12:05:08 |
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pan.filuta
New Member
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Posted - 22/02/2006 : 11:56:51
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quote:
Originally posted by Koron
je nejaky obecny postup jak na maga?
nech ho sežrat felhunterem;-) |
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Koron
New Member
151 Posts |
Posted - 22/02/2006 : 12:27:19
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quote:
Originally posted by tsawo...
v raidu na warlocka ... hezky :) asi nejsem tak dobrej :) |
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plussminuss
Junior Member
541 Posts |
Posted - 22/02/2006 : 13:12:54
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jak na maga... mno, staci dotky, fear a viceme je mrtvy, sem tam immolate, conflgrate, ani nepotrebujes peta
mag na warlocka... mno, musis ho prepadnout a mit stesti aby mel CD na DC a nemel venku felhuntra |
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qsubt
Junior Member
601 Posts |
Posted - 22/02/2006 : 18:57:06
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quote:
Originally posted by plussminuss
ja jedu pres SB hlavne, proto nejedu talenty SP
jinak kdyz je to 1v1, taky se to celkem casto stava, tak na SP vubec neprijde, seduce, CoS, SB, immolate, coflgrate, seduce a repete, kdyz se neco nepovede, tak DC
SF bych pouzival castejc, kdyby nechtel shard...
a na manu se v BG nehraje
jinak kazdy mame svoji taktiku jak hrajeme a to je pekny na lockovi, ze jsou tri stromy a nekolik zpusobu jak ho hrat, ne jak nektere class, kde se jede vicemene to samy
no to je to, jelikoz mam champion set, kde sou bonusy na immol a SP, tak pokud chcu bonusy maximalne vyuzit, tak proste 5 bodu do SP musi jit kdyby na chleba nebylo.
Nemyslim ze mana je k nicemu, ja ted jedu hlavne AB, coz je dle mne nejlepsi BG, nerikam ze je potreba met 5K many ale neco malo to chce, a srandy s Hellfirem, kde jeden HF stoji 1100 many ci kolik, to fakt jenom srandy:)
kdybych mel nejaky jiny set, kde at uz Felh nebo nemesis kde sou myslim bonusy na shadow docela velke tak mam jinak talenty i taktiku;] |
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DarkFace
Junior Member
700 Posts |
Posted - 23/02/2006 : 10:08:15
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Uvidime aky bude novy 0.5 tier set v 1.10.
Celkom sa na tie nove sety tesim |
"I must not Fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is little death that brings total obliteration. I will let it pass through me and over me. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. " |
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Pharoxx
Starting Member
70 Posts |
Posted - 23/02/2006 : 11:07:01
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quote:
Originally posted by qsubt
kdybych mel nejaky jiny set, kde at uz Felh nebo nemesis kde sou myslim bonusy na shadow docela velke tak mam jinak talenty i taktiku;]
Ted uz by te ten problem nemusel trapit, FH i Nemesis maj na vsech kusech uz "neutralni" dmg a nejakej kus byl i pekne boostnutej |
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plussminuss
Junior Member
541 Posts |
Posted - 23/02/2006 : 12:46:28
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felheart byl v +dmg dost pekne boostnutej a skoro zadny staty ne nerfli
ale aspon ten bonus za 3/8 by mohli zmenit... kdo poradne vyuzije +10% do drain life poradne |
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plussminuss
Junior Member
541 Posts |
Posted - 28/02/2006 : 11:48:03
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tak vcera jsme zkouseli poprvy nefa
v prvni fazi je intensity + pyroclasm + concentration aura super, vicemene celou dobu tankuju vsechny vybihajici zmetky z jedny diry bez preruseni hellfire + pyroclasm sem tam je super, nikdo neutece, vsechno naberu na sebe, jen to ze me sundavaj
to je snad poprvy, kdy jsou tyhle dva talenty pordne k necemu a dost se vyuzijou |
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DarkFace
Junior Member
700 Posts |
Posted - 28/02/2006 : 12:59:51
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quote:
Originally posted by plussminuss
felheart byl v +dmg dost pekne boostnutej a skoro zadny staty ne nerfli
ale aspon ten bonus za 3/8 by mohli zmenit... kdo poradne vyuzije +10% do drain life poradne
Je to 15 percent a vyuzije to kazdy drain tank ;p
Kebyze hram stale svojho locka (SM/DS), tak poviem ze je to bozsky bonus. |
"I must not Fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is little death that brings total obliteration. I will let it pass through me and over me. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. " |
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Celer
Starting Member
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qsubt
Junior Member
601 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2006 : 16:46:07
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quote:
Originally posted by Celer
http://worldofwarcraft.filefront.com/file/Apoc_Warlock_PvP_Video_The_Calling;56370 zajimavy pvp video ale prijde mi ze je to bud jen takovy divadlo dyt ten warlock je tam jak na prochazce:-)
A)
no neni to divadlo, prvni pulka BGcka, sestrihane, myslim ze kazdy ma dobre momenty...
B) druha cast duely, tj v podstate realita, sucka je trochu moc dobra no. Meli by jjeji seduction nejak oslabit.
C) v podstate cele video by se dalo zkratit na 10s pac je to furt to same, seduce trinket shadowbolt dc shadowburn + ruzne kombinace;]
D) muj nazor na toto je porad stejny, jo ve WoW je rozdil jesli je clovek dobry nebo prumerny nebo spatny, niceme to ze nekdo da crt hit za 3K mne ze zidle nezvedne, protoze je to jenom o equipu v podstate.
Porad vytahuju qvejka, pac sem ho driv docela dost po netu hral, nicmene proste tam pokud by clovek dobry, tak byl skutecne dobry a ostatni prevysoval prave proto ze byl tak dobry, tu ve wowu je to vec jina ale jo no;]
E) co sem hlavne chtel, nevite co pouziva za nastaveni kamer, nebo je to nejaky addon ci co? docela se mne to libi, je to jakoby diablo ma postavicku uprostred, a tim padem "vidi" i za sebe... kdyz tak si sosnete toho videa aspn 5MB (je to mpg takze pujde prehrat jenom segment) a poradte mne jak toho docilit, diky
EDIT: jak uvadi Warlock pvp Video. Apoc from Spirestone. Battlegrounds and duels. High end gears and high end geared opponents.
jeste k tem BG, tam jako zalezi na souperich no, jako vystriht s tama par segmentu je vec jedna, a porazit skvele secvicenou grupu kde je X byvalych warlordu a komplet skoro vsech 15 aliku je ve full epicu, kde nikdo nechodi sam, kde ti kazdou sedukci za 2-3s nekdo prerusi, je vec druha. To jak uvadi high end geared opponents. je o tvrzeni o nicem. muj nazor. |
Edited by - qsubt on 04/03/2006 16:53:55 |
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qsubt
Junior Member
601 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2006 : 17:05:54
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quote:
Originally posted by Pharoxx
quote:
Originally posted by qsubt
kdybych mel nejaky jiny set, kde at uz Felh nebo nemesis kde sou myslim bonusy na shadow docela velke tak mam jinak talenty i taktiku;]
Ted uz by te ten problem nemusel trapit, FH i Nemesis maj na vsech kusech uz "neutralni" dmg a nejakej kus byl i pekne boostnutej
aha to sem nejak nepostrehl, nicmene efekt je stejny, nemam cas chodit velke instance, tj felheart ani nemesis, ani demoniac ani zadny doomcaler item nejspis met nikdy nebudu a pvp set je staveny na fire - zkraceny cast immolate + 50% neprerusitelny SP. |
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qsubt
Junior Member
601 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2006 : 19:26:52
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quote:
Originally posted by qsubt
a dotaz dva... nenahodil by mne nekdo makro ve stylu:
mackam buton X -
1 check jesli je na targetu aktivni immolate
1YES cast Conflagrate
1NO cast Immolate
?:)
tyden se s tydnem sesel a je to tu, uzijte si to kdo muzete, usetrite si jeden buton na nejakou jinou vec:)
a pokud to makro nekdo mel, tak by mel dostat za usi ze mne ho neposkytl
/script z=0 if UnitIsPlayer("target") then y=5 else y=8 end for i=1,y do t=UnitDebuff("target", i) if (t and string.find(t,"Immolation")) then z=1 end end if z==1 then CastSpellByName("Conflagrate(Rank 4)") else CastSpellByName("Immolate(Rank 7)") end
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Lefl
Starting Member
6 Posts |
Posted - 19/03/2006 : 09:53:13
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| potrebuju vedet jestli mate nekdo nejakej addon na banish.mam banish timer ale ten obcas blbne nebo ukazuje banish jinyho locka v raidu.a nenni jeste nejakej addon kterej by ukazoval kolik zbyva casu do uplynuti jedtlivejch dotek na main targetu? |
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pan.filuta
New Member
145 Posts |
Posted - 20/03/2006 : 09:47:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Lefl
potrebuju vedet jestli mate nekdo nejakej addon na banish.mam banish timer ale ten obcas blbne nebo ukazuje banish jinyho locka v raidu.a nenni jeste nejakej addon kterej by ukazoval kolik zbyva casu do uplynuti jedtlivejch dotek na main targetu?
http://necrosisldc.free.fr/download/ |
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necrofrost
Starting Member
39 Posts |
Posted - 21/03/2006 : 09:49:56
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mam nekolik dotazu k petum.
1, co je to phase shift u impa
2, jak pouzit u succuby Seduce, Succuba jej pouziva sama, ale vzhledem k tomu, ze to pouziva soucasne s ostatnimi spelly, tak casto dostane utocnika ze seduce sama. Jak tedy pouzit pri PvP pouze seduce a zajistit aby Succuba delala jen to. Ja bych si to predstavoval tak, ze oznacim target dam succubu do passive modu a dam seduce. Je to tak?
Co se tyka locka, tak mam teprve lvl 36, takze jsem to zatim na PvP az zas tak moc nepotreboval (lock je proste buh i bez toho;)), ale ted jak ostatni lide na techhle levelech preci jen ty postavy zacinaji hrat lepe, vznika potreba naucit se to taky lepe a radostneji ;). |
AFK: This common term stands for "Attack, Fight, Kill" and is the priest's way of telling you to go pull more mobs. |
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Pertha
Moderator
7950 Posts |
Posted - 21/03/2006 : 10:50:59
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na liste peta pravym tlacitkem vypnes automaticky pouzivani abilit jinych nez seduce
phase shift pet neutoci ani nejde ho zabit pouziva se hlavne v instancich kvuli buffu |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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qsubt
Junior Member
601 Posts |
Posted - 21/03/2006 : 16:55:19
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quote:
Originally posted by necrofrost
mam nekolik dotazu k petum.
2, jak pouzit u succuby Seduce
vsecky veci si u ni vypni tim pravym mysitkem, seduce taky, + si nech aktivovane treba jenom to jeji zneviditelnovani
udelej si makro treba
/script PetAttack();
/script CastPetAction(6);
(na pozici 6) musis met to seduce je to myslim 1 2 3 4 5 6 tak si to kdyz tak zmen, makro si nabinduj treba na Z a GL&HF;] jo a jeste je dobre met sucku v pasive modu, tj ani agresion ani defense, proste to treti, a mozna je to uplne jinak a ja nevim:) |
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