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J@N
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Posted - 24/11/2005 :  15:17:15  Show Profile Send J@N a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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No vypada to ze to bude jako u priesta ale je my divny to ze vajicko jde hodit jen na pallu takhle to zni jak kdyby slo na kohokoli?????


Blessing of Protection slo snad vzdy pouzit na kohokoliv ne? ;)
tahle zmena znamema, ze paladin uz na sebe nehodi Divine Shield a Blessing of Protection hned po sobe

To snad ani nikdo nedela......



branils nekdy vlajku v AB proti 2 rogues?

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Stilgar
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Posted - 25/11/2005 :  02:46:59  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by J@N

Fake to nebude kdyz je to na oficialnich strankach???
Jinak jestli byste nekdo umel vysvetlit tohle Blessing of Sanctuary - Now causes Holy damage to the attacker when the blessed target blocks an attack in addition to the current effect.Dekuji...




bo sanct je protection talent blessing , ktery snizuje dmg taken (tj to co dostavas), byl pridan efekt ze kdyz clovek ktery na sobe tenhle blessing ma blockne stitem tak da utocnikovi "nejakej" holy dmg (podle ranku toho blessu)


tj prot pala kdyz blockne (se svym az 70% block chance) utocnik dostane:
1) ranu od shield spiku
2) lighting bolt z engi stitu
3) dmg z Holy Shieldu
4)dmg z bo sanctuarity
a treba jeste z retr aury a thorns ...

prakticky vyuziti pro tank_wannabie prot paladin, bo je to holy dmg takze s fury to generuje vic agra

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Valibuch
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Posted - 25/11/2005 :  12:13:41  Show Profile Send Valibuch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tak sem zkusil a co se tyka protection pally tak my prijde ze je posilnenej....vraci vic holy presne jak pise nademnou :) u holy vetve posunuly smerem dolu illumination a divine favor.Pokud ste nekdo
zkousel protection co doporucite za seal? Ja zkousel righteousness.
Zlepseny Judgement bezva vec delsi dosah a treba u zminovaneho righteousness pri pouziti sem dal i 480 kritickej holy damage.
Zajimal by me nazor na retribution pallu ba command my prijde nerfnutej (70%) na toho nebyl cas ho zkouset:)...Diky za kazdej post zajima me hlavne seal na protection a celkovy nazor na retri pallu.Diky
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Stilgar
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Posted - 25/11/2005 :  18:58:04  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
videl sem talent trees jen "na papire" takze osobne nevim na co bych predelal svuj 35 holy 16 retr build
kazdopadne je dobre ze zrusili nutnost brat si Imp SoR kvuli sanctify a Holy shocku .. tim usetrim 5 bodu v holy ...
a pro holy shock bych asi sel znova ... ta moznost instant ranged attacku (a ted lepsiho) je docela dobra vec (break bandages kdyz sem pod Shieldem, kitujici hunter, dorazeni pod 20% na HoW etc)


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NINJA
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Posted - 28/11/2005 :  12:45:00  Show Profile  Send NINJA an ICQ Message Send NINJA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zatím jsem pořád Retribution/Holy spec, ale teď také uvažuju o Holy/Ret. Problém je, že nerfnuli Seal of Command ale jinak jsou v Retribution pěkné věci, které bych chtěl mít, tak ještě nevím.

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Cuk0r
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Posted - 29/11/2005 :  13:12:18  Show Profile  Send Cuk0r an ICQ Message Send Cuk0r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by NINJA

Zatím jsem pořád Retribution/Holy spec, ale teď také uvažuju o Holy/Ret. Problém je, že nerfnuli Seal of Command ale jinak jsou v Retribution pěkné věci, které bych chtěl mít, tak ještě nevím.



command "nenerfli"(podla nich 5ppm sa zvysilo na 7ppm, ci to je pravda to nevim, ale som skusil 1000swings na test realme s AR a vyslo 1000/398soc proc co nie je bohvie aky rozdiel oproti 1000/338 s TUF co mam)...jenom nerfli LUCK, v 1.8 ked mas LUCK tak das SoC crit za 1500, v 1.9 das za 1050 a to je docela rozdiel imho nebo ked to tu nekdo bude vykrikovat ze to je extrem tak fyi pri farmeni moj priemerny SoC crit je cca 1100 a to je docela rozdiel medzi 770

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Stilgar
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Posted - 29/11/2005 :  15:59:02  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no a prave z tohodle uhlu pohledu ho nerfnuli

Dmg over time mu zustal stejny, snizil se burst potencial .. coz je proste nevyhoda do PvP ..
zlepseni do PvE rekneme ...

vsici brecici paladiny jak je SoC luck based meli bejt nakopani do prdele ...
pred 1.9 mam s TuF cca 35% proc rate ... to neni vubec zly a ty rany s critem byly solidni ...
lidi sem zabijel predevsim diky double procu .. etc

ale neni to tak markantni .. i kdyz 25% u critu muze byt rozdil par set, a k cemu me bdue ze dalsi ranou mam o x% vetsi sanci na dalsi SoC, kdyz ja ten dmg potreboval TED ...


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ashram
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Posted - 29/11/2005 :  16:15:16  Show Profile Send ashram a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Utratil jsem na PTR 200g za respec a zatim me vychazi jako novy 'cookie cutter' 31/0/20 build. Po HoJ je mozne s trochou stesti udelat 2k dmg coz je velmi dobre na konec souboje (hlavne to od paladina nikdo neceka - zatim . Napriklad judgement of crusader, SoC, auto attack 10 sekund, HoJ, judgement of command (400 - 800 dmg), holy shock (450-900 dmg), HoW (500 - 1k dmg) - to je samozrejme idealni situace bez cc atp. :)

Kazdopadne tenhle patch velmi ublizi valordinum (critadinum nebo jak jim chcete rikat :) - coz je ale imho jedine dobre, protoze paladin postaveny okolo critu s 2k mana poolem v group pvp moc nepomaha :). Pro paladiny co sbiraji +int +dmg/healing, tier2 brneni jsou v 1.9 same pekne zmeny.

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Valibuch
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Posted - 29/11/2005 :  18:49:27  Show Profile Send Valibuch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Talents.View.Test&category_select_id=12

Edited by - Valibuch on 29/11/2005 18:59:06
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Cuk0r
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Posted - 29/11/2005 :  19:37:28  Show Profile  Send Cuk0r an ICQ Message Send Cuk0r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by ashram

Utratil jsem na PTR 200g za respec a zatim me vychazi jako novy 'cookie cutter' 31/0/20 build. Po HoJ je mozne s trochou stesti udelat 2k dmg coz je velmi dobre na konec souboje (hlavne to od paladina nikdo neceka - zatim . Napriklad judgement of crusader, SoC, auto attack 10 sekund, HoJ, judgement of command (400 - 800 dmg), holy shock (450-900 dmg), HoW (500 - 1k dmg) - to je samozrejme idealni situace bez cc atp. :)

Kazdopadne tenhle patch velmi ublizi valordinum (critadinum nebo jak jim chcete rikat :) - coz je ale imho jedine dobre, protoze paladin postaveny okolo critu s 2k mana poolem v group pvp moc nepomaha :). Pro paladiny co sbiraji +int +dmg/healing, tier2 brneni jsou v 1.9 same pekne zmeny.


Judgement of SotC=300mana
HoJ=85mana
JoCommand=300mana
HS=380 mana
Suma priblizne 1100mana pre 850-1700dmg ted pripocitajme crit- hit/norm-soc u autoattack dajme tomu 750/350
dokopy to je 1950-2800dmg za 1100mana a cca 12 sec

ted sa kukni na 1.8 35/0/16
jotc = 300mana
Hoj= a naco vlastne?
soc=55mana
Crit/soc hit with vengeance up 750/500*1.15=750/575
jor =300 mana for 200-450 dmg
hs=480mana for 450-900 (malo by to byt vyssie ako u 1.9 ale budis nechme to takto)
roughly 1130mana for 650-1350 a dokopy to je 1975-2675 za cca 17sekund

sumary
1.8
17sec/1130mana/1975-2675 dmg
1.9
12sec/1100mana/1950-2800 dmg

iste cisla su nepresne, ale nie su daleko od reality
rozdiely:
v 1.8 mi zostane HoJ na horsie situacie
SoC mi moze critnut s vengeance a tomu sa vseobecne ziaden HS crit nevyrovna, nehovoriac o tom ze stale tu MAM MOZNOST pouzit HS...

ja nevim ako ostatni ale mne nerfli moj farming build(pvp build mi ale docela buffli i ked je tam par veci ktore ma seru

1.8 35/0/16 je paladinov BEST DIRECT burst dps build a imho je lepsi ako jeho 1.9 mutacia^^

switchovanim Vengeance a Conviction a znizovanim SoC dmg nerfli Retribution tree nehoraznym sposobom i ked si to vacsina ludi neuvedomuje.

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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 30/11/2005 :  09:35:20  Show Profile  Send Shemiramoth an ICQ Message Send Shemiramoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A nejen to. Nerfnuti pouzivani bubliny a dalsich protection specek je vyrazny "downgrade". Uz se nebude stavat, ze paladin na sobe bude mit pul hodiny 10 lidi (ted kdyz palat haze bublinu, tak ho zacnu ignorovat). Nic takoveho. Pekne bublinu a minutu si neskrtne s dalsi aurou.

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Divine Protection, Divine Shield and Blessing of Protection - Targets of these spells will now receive the "Recently Shielded" effect, preventing another of these three spells from being applied to that target for one minute.


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Stilgar
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Posted - 30/11/2005 :  10:24:52  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth

A nejen to. Nerfnuti pouzivani bubliny a dalsich protection specek je vyrazny "downgrade". Uz se nebude stavat, ze paladin na sobe bude mit pul hodiny 10 lidi (ted kdyz palat haze bublinu, tak ho zacnu ignorovat). Nic takoveho. Pekne bublinu a minutu si neskrtne s dalsi aurou.

aneb

Divine Protection, Divine Shield and Blessing of Protection - Targets of these spells will now receive the "Recently Shielded" effect, preventing another of these three spells from being applied to that target for one minute.





ale vis ze na BoP se spolihat stejne moc nedalo ... snad jedine proti warum a nebo rougum (POKUD jsi dwarf, jinak stejne dostanes blind a cely BoP prochodis v confusion) .. ale kdy naposledy jsi videl samotnyho wara ?

ja BoP vetsinou pouzival na hadraky kolem sebe, ale .. on to stejne nekdo hnedka purgne :x ..

nevyhodu to ma tu, ze by se mohlo stat ze se zastituju BoPem a pak diky tomu cipnu bo nebudu moct DS ... z toho logicky plyne (vzhledem k tomu jak malo kdy je BoP k necemu, bo je dispelable, a melee dmg only jedou jen 2 z 7mi class) nepouzivat na sebe BoP skoro nikdy (v pvp), pokud vim ze to neni samotnej war / roug

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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 30/11/2005 :  11:15:15  Show Profile  Send Shemiramoth an ICQ Message Send Shemiramoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mluvime o sehrane grupe lidi, kde kazdy vi co kdo ma delat, viz tvuj purge. Ja mluvim za sebe jako warriora (a taky 1vs1 fight), takze pro me samotneho je to to dobra zprava. Deset vterin immune to physical attacks jsou rekneme 3 swingy, coz je u warra znat a ja pocitam kazdy swing navic.

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Elfkam
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Posted - 05/12/2005 :  08:16:51  Show Profile  Send Elfkam an ICQ Message Send Elfkam a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Stilgar
nevyhodu to ma tu, ze by se mohlo stat ze se zastituju BoPem a pak diky tomu cipnu bo nebudu moct DS ...



No Stilgare ja to chapu tak ze pokud na hadraka hodim BoP, tak klidne vzapeti muzu na sebe pouzit Divinu, protoze ten 1 minutovy debuff dostane target toho BoP, tedy ten hadrak a ne ja.
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Elfkam
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  08:11:42  Show Profile  Send Elfkam an ICQ Message Send Elfkam a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Talent calculator:

https://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/1p9/paladin/talents.html

hmmm bral bych tak 71 talent bodu:)
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Stilgar
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  10:01:22  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elfkam

quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar
nevyhodu to ma tu, ze by se mohlo stat ze se zastituju BoPem a pak diky tomu cipnu bo nebudu moct DS ...



No Stilgare ja to chapu tak ze pokud na hadraka hodim BoP, tak klidne vzapeti muzu na sebe pouzit Divinu, protoze ten 1 minutovy debuff dostane target toho BoP, tedy ten hadrak a ne ja.


no sak ano ... dyt sem psal "ze se zastituju BoPem ..." tj dam BoP na sebe a dostanu timer ..

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Stilgar
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  10:28:40  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
videl bych to na https://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/1p9/paladin/talents.html?05503112521051000000000000000052030512200000
(31 holy, 20 retr)

-cd z HoJ v prot je nice, ale za 20 pts co me zbydou po 31 v holy nedostanu ani holy shield, takze snazit se o 1H+shield imo nema moc cenu a 0 retr bych si dost nerfnul dmg output ...
prot specu sem nikdy moc neholdoval (i kdyz repe je fajn)

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Elfkam
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  11:17:33  Show Profile  Send Elfkam an ICQ Message Send Elfkam a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Stilgar

videl bych to na https://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/1p9/paladin/talents.html?05503112521051000000000000000052030512200000
(31 holy, 20 retr)

-cd z HoJ v prot je nice, ale za 20 pts co me zbydou po 31 v holy nedostanu ani holy shield, takze snazit se o 1H+shield imo nema moc cenu a 0 retr bych si dost nerfnul dmg output ...
prot specu sem nikdy moc neholdoval (i kdyz repe je fajn)



jj presne tak.. 31/20 vidim take jako nejlepsi kombinaci
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Cuk0r
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  19:03:31  Show Profile  Send Cuk0r an ICQ Message Send Cuk0r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
mno ja to vidim takto keby som siel holy a nechodil na raidy, keby na raidy tak lasting judgment namiesto D-STR
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/1p9paladin/talents.html?55503102501051000000000000000050050510200000


ale osobne pvp to vidim takto :D
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/1p9paladin/talents.html?50400000000000052251030335101050050010000000

jen nevim s akym buildom pojdem farmit (min2 mesiace) do winterspringu...

stale je to uninteruptible heal a ktomu resist a 35sec HoJ

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Stilgar
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  21:53:30  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Cuk0r

mno ja to vidim takto keby som siel holy a nechodil na raidy, keby na raidy tak lasting judgment namiesto D-STR
https://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/1p9/paladin/talents.html?55503102501051000000000000000050050510200000


ale osobne pvp to vidim takto :D
https://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/1p9/paladin/talents.html?50400000000000052251030335101050050010000000

jen nevim s akym buildom pojdem farmit (min2 mesiace) do winterspringu...

stale je to uninteruptible heal a ktomu resist a 35sec HoJ




fixed it for ya

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quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar

quote:
Originally posted by Cuk0r

mno ja to vidim takto keby som siel holy a nechodil na raidy, keby na raidy tak lasting judgment namiesto D-STR
https://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/1p9/paladin/talents.html?55503102501051000000000000000050050510200000


ale osobne pvp to vidim takto :D
https://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/1p9/paladin/talents.html?50400000000000052251030335101050050010000000

jen nevim s akym buildom pojdem farmit (min2 mesiace) do winterspringu...

stale je to uninteruptible heal a ktomu resist a 35sec HoJ




fixed it for ya



No.. ty mas ten PvP build zamereny na 1h a shield? A nebude to prilis mala dmg?
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Cuk0r
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Posted - 07/12/2005 :  13:02:50  Show Profile  Send Cuk0r an ICQ Message Send Cuk0r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elfkam

quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar

quote:
Originally posted by Cuk0r

mno ja to vidim takto keby som siel holy a nechodil na raidy, keby na raidy tak lasting judgment namiesto D-STR
https://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/1p9/paladin/talents.html?55503102501051000000000000000050050510200000


ale osobne pvp to vidim takto :D
https://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/1p9/paladin/talents.html?50400000000000052251030335101050050010000000

jen nevim s akym buildom pojdem farmit (min2 mesiace) do winterspringu...

stale je to uninteruptible heal a ktomu resist a 35sec HoJ




fixed it for ya



No.. ty mas ten PvP build zamereny na 1h a shield? A nebude to prilis mala dmg?



ten build poskytuje viacej moznosti ktore vyuzijes podla danej situacie
Obecne idem na 2h kvoli reckoning potencialu aj dmg ale su situacie kedy je lepsie si zobrat stit...napr. Flag carrying vo WSG, nebo boj s epic equipnutym warrom/WFshamanom (treba ale hodne many)
Improved concentration aura je super
Do group pvp bez reckoningu sa citim trosku nesvoj ono ked liecim a davam support a ostatni do mna buchaju tak reckoning mi dava moznost aby som im to po healovani vratil a to nie je ziadna slaba rana
Repentance mi zas poskytuje trosku tej kontroly boja, najma na casterov, je uzitocnejsi pri 1v1 a do AB je skvely na Flag attack
cisto do BG farmenia by som este porozmyslal nad 9/25/17 kedy mam aj Reckoning aj Eye for an Eye a to je na casterov docela gut

edit : dik Stilgarovi za fix

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ashram
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dalsi zmeny talentu - podle meho nazoru tentokrat velmi pozitivni

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-paladin&T=676740&P=1


* Blessing of Kings, the former 31 point talent in Retribution, has been shifted to the 11 point talent in the Protection tree.
* Blessing of Sanctuary, the former 11 point talent in Protection, has been shifted to the 21 point talent in the same tree.
* Holy Shield, the former 21 point talent in Protection, has been shifted to the 31 point talent in the same tree and has had its mana cost slightly reduced.
* Repentance, the former 31 point talent in Protection, has been shifted to the 31 point talent in the Retribution tree.

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Cuk0r
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Posted - 09/12/2005 :  14:12:26  Show Profile  Send Cuk0r an ICQ Message Send Cuk0r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ashram

dalsi zmeny talentu - podle meho nazoru tentokrat velmi pozitivni

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-paladin&T=676740&P=1


* Blessing of Kings, the former 31 point talent in Retribution, has been shifted to the 11 point talent in the Protection tree.
* Blessing of Sanctuary, the former 11 point talent in Protection, has been shifted to the 21 point talent in the same tree.
* Holy Shield, the former 21 point talent in Protection, has been shifted to the 31 point talent in the same tree and has had its mana cost slightly reduced.
* Repentance, the former 31 point talent in Protection, has been shifted to the 31 point talent in the Retribution tree.




repentance ako ultimate retribution je blbost imho
stale to jde dolu vodou...najprv pochovali combo DF+reckoning+SoC a ted aj Rep+Reckoning+SoC
ale aspon ted bude mozne DF+LJ+BoK mozne na jednom paladinovi...

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Lexon
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Nový talent kalkulátor pro pala:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladins2/talents.html

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Thorgor
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Posted - 24/12/2005 :  18:22:20  Show Profile Send Thorgor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mno tak co myslite? Podle me je ta nova verze pekne pojebana, od te doby co zacali cachrovat s tema abili-talentama tak to jde ke dnu. Mate nejake nevrhz na PvE build na nejnovejsi 1.9?
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Valibuch
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Posted - 02/01/2006 :  10:21:10  Show Profile Send Valibuch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thorgor

Mno tak co myslite? Podle me je ta nova verze pekne pojebana, od te doby co zacali cachrovat s tema abili-talentama tak to jde ke dnu. Mate nejake nevrhz na PvE build na nejnovejsi 1.9?

no me prijde docela v poho 1.9 trochu sem se tomu venoval na test serveru dal sem aj dva dny naky BG a pro me holy 31 +- a protection zbytek.... strasne me totiz bavilo behat po bg a jenom poustet judgement of righteousness a holy shock docela to davalo prdy a byli vsici okolo dost prekvapeny muhehe.Na retri nejedu ba si neprijdu jako tvrdak kdyz nemam stit :)
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maser
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Posted - 02/01/2006 :  20:49:40  Show Profile Send maser a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zdravim chci zacit hrat a sem newbie.
chci se zeptat na paladina na nejakej PVE ci solo best build muze me nekdo poradit?
dik za odpovedi.

Edited by - maser on 02/01/2006 20:50:16
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Seth
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Posted - 02/01/2006 :  21:24:51  Show Profile  Send Seth an ICQ Message Send Seth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
palat je class do party!!!

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maser
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Posted - 02/01/2006 :  21:33:54  Show Profile Send maser a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seth

palat je class do party!!!


tak porad nejakej non pvp build
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Jedi_Knight
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Posted - 02/01/2006 :  21:39:37  Show Profile  Send Jedi_Knight an ICQ Message Send Jedi_Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by maser

quote:
Originally posted by Seth

palat je class do party!!!


tak porad nejakej non pvp build


Teď si eště naskládej body do komba Spiritual Focus + Illumination + Improved Holy Light + Divine Favor a seš za vodou.

A pak skládej v retri do ten skill co snižuje mana cost + Improved Seal of the Crusader + Seal of Command.

To je takovej paladinskej základ, vo kterym fakt nemusíš vůbec přemejšlet... budeš dávat s SoC slušnou dmg a budeš mít imba healy.

Podle potřeb gildy se pak můžeš respecnout na cokoliv bude potřeba.

Ale bacha - nezvykni si na to, bo f tom novym systému je to celkem překopáno.

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Posted - 02/01/2006 :  22:23:32  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jedi_Knight

quote:
Originally posted by maser

quote:
Originally posted by Seth

palat je class do party!!!


tak porad nejakej non pvp build


Teď si eště naskládej body do komba Spiritual Focus + Illumination + Improved Holy Light + Divine Favor a seš za vodou.

A pak skládej v retri do ten skill co snižuje mana cost + Improved Seal of the Crusader + Seal of Command.

To je takovej paladinskej základ, vo kterym fakt nemusíš vůbec přemejšlet... budeš dávat s SoC slušnou dmg a budeš mít imba healy.

Podle potřeb gildy se pak můžeš respecnout na cokoliv bude potřeba.

Ale bacha - nezvykni si na to, bo f tom novym systému je to celkem překopáno.


pre 1.9 35 holy, 16 retr
post 1.9 .. uvidime

[Stilgar]
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maser
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Valibuch
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  11:54:12  Show Profile Send Valibuch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by maser

zdravim chci zacit hrat a sem newbie.
chci se zeptat na paladina na nejakej PVE ci solo best build muze me nekdo poradit?
dik za odpovedi.

aspon pro predstavu ..ale mam pocit ze je to na ten 1.9 delany
http://www.theholylight.com/
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spajdr
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  15:58:11  Show Profile  Visit spajdr's Homepage  Send spajdr an ICQ Message Send spajdr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no zítra si to už někteří vyzkouší jak to jde s novými talenty, protože na US je ode dneška 1.9
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Reyden
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  16:04:20  Show Profile  Send Reyden an ICQ Message Send Reyden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by spajdr

no zítra si to už někteří vyzkouší jak to jde s novými talenty, protože na US je ode dneška 1.9


hm takze zase tak tyden nez vychytam vsechny pluginy .. uz se tesim

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Lexon
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  18:14:15  Show Profile Send Lexon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seth

palat je class do party!!!



No podle mě se málo který class hodí na sólování víc než paladin (vlastni zkušenost)

1H+Shield tank + Heal
Souboje jsou delší, ale zase málokdy zhebneš.
PvP neprovozuju tak nevím.

Lexon
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Seth
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  18:49:57  Show Profile  Send Seth an ICQ Message Send Seth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lexon

Souboje jsou delší, ale zase málokdy zhebneš.

No ja nevim, mozna jen tim, ze jsou soboje delsi je prave paladin dobry do party :D

Jinak s UD warrem je grind uplne pohoda, kanibalismus je fakt k nezaplaceni

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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  19:02:22  Show Profile  Visit spajdr's Homepage  Send spajdr an ICQ Message Send spajdr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lexon

quote:
Originally posted by Seth

palat je class do party!!!



No podle mě se málo který class hodí na sólování víc než paladin (vlastni zkušenost)

1H+Shield tank + Heal
Souboje jsou delší, ale zase málokdy zhebneš.
PvP neprovozuju tak nevím.



na shadow priesta se nechytá
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Valibuch
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  19:33:04  Show Profile Send Valibuch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spajdr

quote:
Originally posted by Lexon

quote:
Originally posted by Seth

palat je class do party!!!



No podle mě se málo který class hodí na sólování víc než paladin (vlastni zkušenost)

1H+Shield tank + Heal
Souboje jsou delší, ale zase málokdy zhebneš.
PvP neprovozuju tak nevím.



na shadow priesta se nechytá

mnooo je pravda ze kdyz je v poho clovicek co za tim sedi tak verim zvlastni zkusenostni ...ale uz sem potkal i priblbla..o postave jako takovy to nejni urcite !
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Posted - 03/01/2006 :  22:42:20  Show Profile  Send Jedi_Knight an ICQ Message Send Jedi_Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lexon

quote:
Originally posted by Seth

palat je class do party!!!



No podle mě se málo který class hodí na sólování víc než paladin (vlastni zkušenost)

1H+Shield tank + Heal
Souboje jsou delší, ale zase málokdy zhebneš.
PvP neprovozuju tak nevím.


No jako Prot palát je fajn, ale grupě moc nepomůžeš - agro drží líp war a stejně po tobě bude dycky někdo chtít heal...

Já sem dřív taky používal 1H + Štít, ale teď už vidim jen pár výhod proč to používat - buďto nemáš kvalitní obouruč, nebo je na tvym lvlu naopak lepší jednoruč (třeba já jakmile se mi podaří sehnat http://www.thottbot.com/?i=7662 tak do instance pěknejch pár levelů s jinou zbraní nevlezu - stejně furt dělám healera ) a nebo potřebuješ rychle heal přes Judgement of Light nebo stojíš proti casterovi - na to je ale fajn mít zbraň která je kua rychlá - víc jak 1.8 nebrat.

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Milan
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  05:07:02  Show Profile Send Milan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pro ty linejsi z vas, novy patch 1.9 ke stazeni.
US verze : http://www.ausgamers.com/files/details/html/20293
tady je zatim jen US, ale vypada to, ze az nahodi EU servery tak tam pridaji odkaz i na EU: http://www.wowguru.com/patches/

Edited by - Milan on 04/01/2006 05:07:39
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NINJA
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  08:37:42  Show Profile  Send NINJA an ICQ Message Send NINJA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
česká paladin guide pro 1.9 patch:
http://motion.parba.cz/viewtopic.php?p=12857#12857

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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  15:38:19  Show Profile  Visit Rodier's Homepage  Send Rodier an ICQ Message Send Rodier a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ninja > moc dik.. na tohle jsem se presne chtel zeptat :-)

Jinak co je podle vas nejrychleji solo expici class?

Popripade jakej je nejlepsi class do pvp kterej ale zaroven nejrychleji solo expi?


First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave!
Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.

Edited by - Rodier on 04/01/2006 15:54:41
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  15:39:25  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rodier

Ninja > moc dik.. na tohle jsem se presne chtel zeptat :-)

Jinak co je podle vas nejrychleji solo expici class?




ten level 1-20 je to jedno a dal te to nemusi zajimat

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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  15:52:05  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Rodier

Ninja > moc dik.. na tohle jsem se presne chtel zeptat :-)

Jinak co je podle vas nejrychleji solo expici class?


samozrejme paladin pc nemusi behat ze hrbitova ... a pak je to jeste druid

UO, SWG, WoW, EVE, DF, LoL
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quote:
Originally posted by Pertha

quote:
Originally posted by Rodier

Ninja > moc dik.. na tohle jsem se presne chtel zeptat :-)

Jinak co je podle vas nejrychleji solo expici class?




ten level 1-20 je to jedno a dal te to nemusi zajimat



no prave ze bych se dostal rad nekam vejs ale ta hra je desne nudna a pomala kolem ty 30+


First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave!
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Pomalý progres je pro tebe všechno kromě Quake.

PC, PS3, iPad
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Eagle
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  16:17:48  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nejlepsi rodiere je mit postavu level 1 ... dat ji 1000g ... postavit ji do aukce a at maka ... nakupujes prodavas a z toho co vydelas trenujes enchanting a alchemy ... a stale nakupujes vyrabis prodavas a stale mas level 1 ... ale prachy se hrnou a nemusis se ani hnout a absolutne nemusis expovat ... podle tvyho podpisu usuzuju ze ani cestovat nechces a ani delat questy ... takze pro tebe uplne idealni postava ... samozrejme zaklad paladin trpaslik

UO, SWG, WoW, EVE, DF, LoL

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