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Rodier
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 Posted - 05/05/2005 : 02:00:16
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Kdy vidite prvni odliv lidi? nikdy?
Mne na wow zacalo nudit to, co mne drive bavilo - questy.
zacatek byl fajn, potvory i questy byli blizko mest.. mest kde se da rozumne zit (treneri), ale pozdeji uz je to pruda desitek minut nekam cestovat... Samozrejme na 40 levelu je tu extra drahy mount ale i tak..
btw doufam ze WoW nikdy nedopadne jako Lineage2
/paste z naseho fora free L2 serveru/
edit by Rodier:
Kdo neumi anglicky, jde proste o to, ze v Lineage 2 je zakazan "farming", tedy kdyz hraci spusti bota, program ktery za nej expuje (udelaji si level 60, aby meli silne vybaveni a ability ale potom se deleveluji aby mohli zabijet level 40 potvory, meli z nich loot atp ale pritom to zabijeji level 60 abilitama = jde to desne rychle). Takto nabyty majetek potom prodavaji na eBay ige.com a jinde - coz je take nelegalni.
Skupinka zoufalcu zacala tyto hrace zabijet a natacet videa, kdyz se ale i farmeri zacali grupovat do skupin aby to tyhle zoufalci co je zabijeli nemeli jednoduche, tak zoufalci zacali pouzivat boty /coz imho nemeli protoze ani policie nesmi prekracovat zakony/. Dale navrhovali ze NCsoft zazaluji za nedodrzovani smlouvy atp..
No kdyz jednoho ze zoufalcu Ncsoft chytil a zabanoval, tak uz stim sli za Ncsoftem na fora, jaktoze jejich cloveka - ktery se snazi dodrzovat pravidla zabanovali a tisice ostatnich nikoliv /je zajimave ze farmery nechaji bejt a cloveka co se podili na jeich likvidaci nahodou chyti jak ten bot taky pouziva/
Ncsoft udelali jen jednu vec. Proste zabanovali pristup do hry tem, ktery do toho topicu cokoliv napsali (v souhlasnem smyslu) protoze tim topicem porusili pravidla fora a serveru :))) /pouzivani bota, vydirani Ncsoftu, pozadovani odpovedi..atp/
Proste Ncsoft = hovada.
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(prevzato z oficialnich for)
*** finalElf, member of BD, wrote the following post to NCsoft regarding the farmer problem*****
My name is finalElf. I have been playing this game since closed beta, have been a clan leader since mid Chronicle 1, and I have a few things for you to hear.
I do not normally use this forum, preferring [censored], but it seems that perhaps the GMs actually read this, so I will post here.
I used to love this game. I played every day for 12-16 hours, as did all my friends. We were in Blue Dragons on Bartz. We played the game legitimately, going to Nurka each night to PVP (since there were no arenas), exploring the new areas, and wondering what it might be like to siege a castle.
But slowly things began getting perverted. People started comming to Nurka with Eminence bows back when an Eminence bow was more than even the highest level character on the server could afford (emergency).
It also became hard to hunt. Hundreds of people were showing up with rediculous names hunting for 24 hours a day. None spoke english, and they all de-leveled every night in town. It became hard to find good hunting spots, since all the best ones were taken by them.
We later learned that these were "farmers". People from 3rd world countries that played this game to make cash in real life. They sold adena to companies like IGE. This adena in turn was sold to players in Lineage 2 for (at the time) $85 Dollars per Million.
In your Terms Of Service you specifically stated that selling adena for real life money is illegal. Everyone on the server KNEW who the farmers were. It was blindingly clear who they were and what they were doing, but they continued to farm by the thousands.
Another kind of rediculous rule that was never enforced was the "No Account Sharing" rule. The character ggThnx was level 60 when the average level on the server was 35. He was at one point a full 10 levels above the next highest player. He was able to do this because he was account sharing with 3 people. Yet... again... this person was not banned - despite his high profile and the fact that he was online 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
ggThnx was not the only one account sharing. CCTV5 was account sharing since open beta. After ggThnx quit CCTV5 soon became the highest level character on the server. So not only was he violating the "No selling adena" rule, he was violating the account sharing rule, as well as one I am about to mention.
"No Third Party Programs"...
Is this a joke? For as long as I can remember 9 man parties of farmers have been auto following each other around town and in the field. It is obviously not auto follow, because the movements are perfectly in tune with the person being followed. No person could possibly play like that. The healers all heal at EXACTLY the same % each and every time. The buffs all happen in EXACTLY 1200 seconds. The patterns are blindingly obvious... yet... again: the same farmers that were doing in a year ago are STILL HERE.
EVERY legitimate player on the server was becoming incredibly frustrated by this. The laws set down by NCsoft specifically prohibited the type of behavior going on EVERY DAY. And not just with a few players. THOUSANDS of farmers from Talking Island to Oren were botting, account sharing, and selling adena.
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So after countless petitions and an ocean of emails with NCsoft still not taking care of the problem, the players of Bartz decided to do something about it. We formed up a clan called everRed that was specifically designed to take out the farmers, botters, and major eBayers. We got donations from players on the character finalChild, and used those donations to equip perma-red characters to take out the infestation.
To continue the donations coming we made videos of everything we did. Here is the latest of about 15 total videos we have made over the course of 1 year:
http://ervideo.eclipsealliance.net/eR_Judgement.zip
In the last year farmers began making FARMER CLANS!!!!!!! That is CLANS ENTIRELY COMPRISED OF ACCOUNT SHARING, BOTTING, ADENA SELLING CHARACTERS. If this was not a blatant insult to the EULA, I do not know what was. Modern examples of these now massive farmer alliances are STROLL and LoveLineage2.
Our fight became harder and harder. The farmers all use L2Walker (the botting program), so they can see where we are before we get there. And since they all account share and bot, they are all very high level.
So to combat this we tried using their own tools against them. We downloaded a tool they use called L2Walker and tried using it to heal us during PK runs. That way we could see the farmers with the same tools they used to see us.
1 WEEK after we used the program, the character that was using it, isLove, was banned.
AFTER 2 YEARS OF FARMERS ACCOUNT SHARING, USING L2WALKER, SELLING ADENA, AND VIOLATING EVERY TERM IN THE EULA, THE PEOPLE TRYING TO STOP THEM ARE THE ONES THAT GET BANNED. UNBELIEVABLE.
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What are we to do now? All our hunting grounds are taken by people who are obviously cheating. People that have NO regard for the rules that YOU designed. The game has come to the point that people don't look at a high level character with good gear as being a "hardcore" player, they look at him as someone who probably eBayed a ton of gear and paid for power leveling services.
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So here is what we, the LEGITIMATE players of Lineage 2 in North America want. We want you to BAN every obvious farmer you see in TOI, DVC, Cruma, Giants Cave, Garden of Eva, Forgotten Temple, and EVERYWHERE else. Don't tell us you don't know who they are, because it is obvious. We can even give you EVERY FARMER ON THE SERVER'S NAME if you ask for it. We know who they are.
If you don't there are two things we intend to do:
1. Stop making everRed videos. Alot of what keeps people playing is the inspiration our videos give them to play. Without those many people will lose interest.
2. Cancel all of our accounts (that's about $1000 per month in lost revenue right there.)
3. Post on all forums encouraging EVERY person to leave the game of Lineage II, and to play WOW or some other MMORPG.
4. Make videos of other games and post links on Lineage II forums everywhere, offering advice and step by step walkthroughs on how to sign up for these other games. And I GUARANTEE many will follow.
5. File a Class Action Lawsuit for preferential treatment of an ethnic group in your game as well as false advertising, breach of contract, and a few other obvious violations of your own policies. A legal team from Kiesel, Boucher & Larson, LLP, has already agreed that the case has merit. We will be asking for the full return of all monthly dues that we have been paying for the past two years, as well as damages if applicable.
http://www.kbla.com/
Please understand that after two years of grief and frustration, we consider these to be our only courses of action.
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PLEASE take our advice. DO SOMETHING. We don't want to quit this game. We enjoy playing Lineage 2. We enjoy seiging castles. But we CANNOT continue to play this game as it is.
Sincerely,
The Legitimate Players of Lineage 2, North America
asheilds@tampabay.rr.com
*****AshNC of NCsoft replyied to the post as follows*****
AshNC
This thread is being locked as it has broken the following rules.
Conspiracy Thread
Doomsday Thread
Character Assassination Thread
I Demand Answers Thread
Legal Action Thread
As a general reminder to all our players, severe forum misconduct can lead to disciplinary action not only against your forum privileges, but against your game account as well.
- Ash
***** The post has now been removed from the NCsoft official forums, similarly, finalElf and all the people who replied to the post showing support for his comments have had thier Lineage 2 accounts banned permanently by NCsoft******
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First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave!
Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.
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Edited by - Rodier on 05/05/2005 02:01:09
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frantar
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 06:24:01
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no to je sice strašně pěkný... ale...
1) nechápu proč spojuješ WoW s LA2, jsou to 2 hry co mají společnej žánr, což kupodivu snad neznamená že 1 hra= 2 hra
2) mi nějak vůbec unikl smysl topicu, začínáš questama a končíš botama...
3) blizz si obchodování s in-game věcma dost solidně hlídá... stačí si přečíst ofic fóra a zjistíš, že zabanovanách acc kvůli tomuhle obchodování už pár je... |
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Speh
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 07:46:24
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| Zaroven je dost najivni si myslet, ze se tomu ubrani.Nicmene nikdy jsem to moc nepochopil proc bych to nemoch prodavat.Kua platil jsem zato, ja u toho ztravil hodiny abych toho majetku dosah, proc bych nemel mit pravo to prodat.Kazdopadne chapu ze jse tomu brani. |
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Thundeeer
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 08:27:41
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Tiez moc nerozumiem zmyslu tohto topicu... Pochybujem ze vo WoW dojde k niecomu podobnemu, zatial som nevidel ani najmensi naznak.
Speh: Preco nemat pravo to predat ? Myslim ze Blizzard narozdiel napr. od Mythicu (DAoC) chce minimalizovat vplyv "outside world" na ich hru. Ludia ktory si za real prachy nakupuju peniaze a uber itemy maju vlastne jednoduchu moznost zhromazdovat bohatstvo v hre (a do urcitej miery ovplyvnovat cely herny svet) prostrednictvom "bohatstva" v reale ktore by nemalo mat absolutne ziadnu suvislost s moznostou uplatnit sa vo svete world of warcraftu. Myslim se ze je to dobry a ferovy pristup voci vsetkym ktori hraju WoW pre zabavu. Hraci by mali byt odmenovany a trestany za ich cinnosti vo World of Warcraft a nie za to ze v hre nepohnu ani prstom a kupia si najlepsie itemy apod. |
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Lim-Dul
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 09:15:21
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kdyz si ve videopucovne pucis film a pak ho prodas taky se to te pucovne nebude libit
za hrani platis aby sis mohl pucit od blizzu itemy ktery pouzivas |
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†… Havran …†
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 09:20:55
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| rodiera to nebavi bo je na nakym nizkym lvl a nemuze stat u guardu a vsude jinde ho kuchaj alici :))) |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 09:29:57
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nektery questy sou nudny, nektery sou prima a u nekterejch se fakt pobavis
osobne bych ocekaval, ze u tyhle hry jeste hodne lidi na hodne dlouho vydrzi, prece jen to pridavani dalsich a dalsich veci tu je, ted prisel PvP system - spousta lidi to rozjela a je to zabavny, za chvili prijde dalsi novej dungeon - doufam ze bude tezkej jak MC atd. novy veci pridavaj, novy recepty na krafteni atd atd... proste good |
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Tharn
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 09:30:51
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| Problém s RL penězi ve WoWu je v tom, že ty skutečně nejlepší věci jsou BoP, takže se na eBay koupit ani technicky nedají. |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 09:31:42
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| jojo, BoP je moc dobry reseni |
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Herbicid
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 10:43:14
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Boteru bych se nebal, Blizz si to poravdu docela hlida a uz zabanovali, nebo to aspon tvrdi, nekolik stovek cheateru.
Hehe, cela caussa LA2 mi prijde, ze ty co tam farmi jsou, sami administratori serveru a jejich znami :))
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Firian
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 11:30:20
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| Jaký bude WoW bez Rodiera? Hmmm fakt těžko říct... ;) |
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ripptor
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 11:54:29
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| Nie si ty nahodou ten Rodier co mal cely januar a februar na www.mmorpg.cz asi 30 postov denne o tom ze WoW je najlepsia hra aka kedy vznikla? |
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Pertha
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 11:56:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Tharn
Problém s RL penězi ve WoWu je v tom, že ty skutečně nejlepší věci jsou BoP, takže se na eBay koupit ani technicky nedají.
ale jsou viz zkusennosti v eq1 kde proste byla skupina lidi, kterou jsi si moh najmout a ona s tebou zabila nejtezsiho bosse a nechala ti loot |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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Seth
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 12:05:51
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uz vidim jak zaplatis skupinu 40 lidi....
navic ten raid nemusi byt 100% uspesny, jelikoz pri tech opravdu high-end bossech je potreba prace VSECH lidi, ne jen 39.
drop taky neni na 100%
nerikam, ze to nejde prodavat, jenom je to mnohem mnohem obtiznejsi nez v jinych hrach |
Seth
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bo=protoze!
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Pertha
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 12:10:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Seth
uz vidim jak zaplatis skupinu 40 lidi....
navic ten raid nemusi byt 100% uspesny, jelikoz pri tech opravdu high-end bossech je potreba prace VSECH lidi, ne jen 39.
drop taky neni na 100%
nerikam, ze to nejde prodavat, jenom je to mnohem mnohem obtiznejsi nez v jinych hrach
divil by ses co parta cinanu udela za 30 dolaru :)
a ne neni pravda, ze 39 lidi neporesi raid ale poresi , jen musi byt lepsi nez tech 40 normalne a to je to proc si za to nechavaj platit |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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Seth
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 12:36:41
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| v tom pripade je to ale systemove neresitelne v jakekoliv MMO hre, neni to jen problem WOWu |
Seth
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Pertha
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 12:38:44
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quote:
Originally posted by Seth
v tom pripade je to ale systemove neresitelne v jakekoliv MMO hre, neni to jen problem WOWu
ano jedine co jde je sledovat a banovat
systemove jde resit jedine boterstvi a nasledne prodej penez coz je ten nejjednodussi system prevodu ingame majetku na real |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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Firian
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 16:08:13
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| A nebo se smířit s tím že to stejně neuhlídáš a povolit to, viz EQ2... za peníze jde prostě koupit všechno a dlouho se tomu vzdorovat nedá ;) |
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Tharn
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 17:53:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Pertha
quote:
Originally posted by Seth
uz vidim jak zaplatis skupinu 40 lidi....
navic ten raid nemusi byt 100% uspesny, jelikoz pri tech opravdu high-end bossech je potreba prace VSECH lidi, ne jen 39.
drop taky neni na 100%
nerikam, ze to nejde prodavat, jenom je to mnohem mnohem obtiznejsi nez v jinych hrach
divil by ses co parta cinanu udela za 30 dolaru :)
a ne neni pravda, ze 39 lidi neporesi raid ale poresi , jen musi byt lepsi nez tech 40 normalne a to je to proc si za to nechavaj platit
Absolutně netuším, kolik stojí na eBay/IGN/… 100g, ale někde jsem četl, že čínský farmář musí vydělat denně (za 12 hodin hraní) asi 150g. Takže to berme jako benchmark.
Musíš uznat, že BoP a PvP rewardy dostatečně komplikují život profesionálních farmářů, protože ten proces už není tak jednoduchý jako zabij moby -> prodej -> máš prachy -> za ty si lze koupit cokoliv (i když lze stále koupit VELMI dobré věci + enchanty). Samozřejmě, že si lze představit jakési nadstardardní služby, tak se na ně podívejme:
1. Farmaření z běžných instancí (BRS/Strath/Scholo/DM) s tím, že farmář hraje s postavou klienta - vyžaduje 5-15 lidí a jeden run trvá ~2 hodiny, takže se dá za 12 hodin zvládnout 6, to je dost na to, aby padla cílová věc, možná i další. Každopádně to záleží na štěstí a stálo by to 750g pro DM, 1500g pro Strath/Scholo/BRD/LBRS a 2250g pro UBRS. Tohle je docela reálná služba, ale sdílení účtu je proti ToS.
2. Farmaření velkých raidů (MC/Onyxia), kde farmář hraje s postavou klienta. Onyxia trvá asi 2-4 hodiny, MC tak 6-12, pak je lockup. Jednotlivé cílové věci mají asi 5-10% pravděpodobnost úspěchu, pokud jich je víc, je to samozřejmě lepší. Takže to máme 1000g-2000g za Onyxiu a 3000g-6000g za MC, přičemž si je klient v tom týdnu už nezahraje (lock-up). Pochybuji, že si tohle bude kdokoliv chtít platit, navíc je to na houby, protože to způsobí lockup instance.
3. Farmaření jakýchkoliv instancí s tím, že klient ovládá svou postavu - tzn. má 4-39 služebníků, kteří budou kdykoliv k dispozici na požádání a dají jakýkoliv loot si klient řekne. Cena čistě za čas, 1 hodina jednoho člověka je asi 12.5g (spíš víc, protože to je extra služba). Něco jako služba "Teleamigos" z té reklamy na Renault. Tuhle službu si dokážu přestavit pro věci jako DM nebo další 5-10ti lidné instance.
4. Protahování low-level instancema. Cena jako bod 3.
5. Dosažení PvP ranku - je na prd, protože je třeba ho udržet, sdílení účtu (proti ToS)
6. Udržení PvP ranku - sice fajn služba, cena 150g-300g za den. Opět proti ToS, ale především: člověk s vysokým PvP rankem má určitou reputaci. A ostatní hráči nepoznají, jestli to zrovna hraje farmer nebo majitel. Protože většinou hraje farmer, postava bude mít reputaci, kterou jí udělá ten farmer.
"Teleamigos" by šli (ty v menším měřítku), ale pak nevím jestli jsou takový problém, ostatní nevidím reálně. |
Edited by - Tharn on 05/05/2005 17:53:29 |
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Rodier
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Posted - 06/05/2005 : 00:22:09
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quote:
Originally posted by frantar
no to je sice strašně pěkný... ale...
1) nechápu proč spojuješ WoW s LA2, jsou to 2 hry co mají společnej žánr, což kupodivu snad neznamená že 1 hra= 2 hra
2) mi nějak vůbec unikl smysl topicu, začínáš questama a končíš botama...
3) blizz si obchodování s in-game věcma dost solidně hlídá... stačí si přečíst ofic fóra a zjistíš, že zabanovanách acc kvůli tomuhle obchodování už pár je...
1. jsou to oboje popularni mmorpg
2. smysl je v baveni se o budoucnosti wow..
3. blbost, prave ze si to VUBEC nehlida, tenhle obchod roste a ucty byli zabanovany z ruznych duvodu jen ne z prodeje ingame veci. |
First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave!
Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.
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Rodier
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Posted - 06/05/2005 : 00:32:07
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No ja osobne take nechapu PROC jim vadi to, ze si nekdo neco koupi.
jasne tady ctu takove ty kecy jako ze chteji ferove hrani aby vsichni meli stejne podminky. to je ale blbost, naivita. nikdo nema stejne podminky a nikdy mit nebude dokud pristup na internet bude stat penize.
a dokud cas lidi bude stat penize.
jedinej realnej duvod kterej tu vidim je ten, ze si chce blizzard nahrabat. Kdyz budes muset 2 mesice hrat denne 5h aby si mel sanci ze ti padne neco extra tak zaplatis proste blizzardu 1000kc na pausalu za hrani.
Takhle by sis to proste koupil a mel to hned a nemusel hrat tolik hodin.
A imho vtom co udelalo SoE je budoucnost, vetsine mmorpg tohle nevadi.
Jinak sleduju weby s ruznejma makrama scriptama a jinejma vecma a farming jede a to tak ze hodne. a pvp system stim nehne /slyseli jste o wow teleport? system ktery vas prenese na kterekoliv misto ve hre - okamzite.. kde ste jiz drive byli a mate to tam bookle.. pripadne propadavani se pod zem kdy na vas nikdo nemuze ale vy na ne ano atp../ tohle vsecko farmari pouzivaji. CInani proste udelaj vse ;-)
.. nehlede na to, ze jsou powerlevelign sluzby, mam dojem ze za Level 60 char kterej ti udelaji dle tvych pozadavku chteji par tisic, za priplatek s tvoji postavou projdou vsecky instance takze ty rare veci mit budes.
otazkou je, jestli stim nekdy neco skutecne blizzard zacne delat. Co si budeme nalhavat, jsou to lamy, to je videt na jejich aktualnich problemech, server maintenancech.. proste moc mmorpg veci nezvladaji a zatim zabanovali sotva 1K uctu jen za speedhack - kterej navic nahlasili ostatni hraci.
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First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave!
Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.
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DarkFace
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Posted - 06/05/2005 : 10:28:03
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Ked som hral v us, tak tam bolo niekolko (hah, o niekolkych som vedel) cinskych farmerov.
Kedze guilda v ktorej som bol vznikla povodne v LA2 (hand of omega), tak aj tu bolo niekolko cinanov (pre ilustraciu chengcheng, ktoreho fuk a bak mi strasne chyba :P, pripadne, nerozumiem ti, ale zavolam priatelku ona mi to prelozi).
No ale k veci, podla informacii mal cinsky farmer pre IGE zarobit nad 100g za 8 hodinovu smenu, inac za ten den nedostal zaplatene.
Toho konkretneho farmera som videl neustale v Azshare farmit hippogryphov (kym Blizz nezmenil cenu dropov z nich) a bol som s nim v instance iba raz - LBRS a bola to hroza. |
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