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tsawo
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Posted - 21/12/2005 :  10:45:11  Show Profile Send tsawo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plussminuss

quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

a jak pak to?

sem ani nevedel ze shaman ma neco proti sapu, blindu

vim ze poison cleansing totem facha na blind, ale ten ma 5HP :) a proti sapu ma shaman co?



nic, proste stojim u vlajky (s rohazenejma totemamam samo) jako vlk...

tj sem beast, nejde me sapnout, ani na me nejde blind ...



nejvic me pobavi, kdyz ma shaman rozhazeny totemy, ja mu sundam tremor wandkou, dam seduce a beru vlajku by me vzdycky zajimalo, co dela ten na druhy strane co ma seduce a jen se kouka jak sroubuju



Vetsinou se desne nudi, bud neco dela ve woknech, vari si kafe, pise na forech, myje nadobi atd. takze si te obyvkle ani nevsimne.
Bedlivejsi spoluhraci co hru sleduji, vsak prudce klesajici hp bar okamzite zaregistruji a spechaji na misto dotycneho warlocka neutralizovat.
Tudiz tvuj pwn factor = 0

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Little
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Posted - 21/12/2005 :  10:49:25  Show Profile  Send Little an ICQ Message Send Little a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sem si nevsiml ze pri seduce klesaji HP...teda Kruano, nejaka novinka

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Reyden
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Posted - 21/12/2005 :  10:55:51  Show Profile  Send Reyden an ICQ Message Send Reyden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no to jsou zas debaty

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Eagle
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Posted - 21/12/2005 :  11:01:56  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Little

Sem si nevsiml ze pri seduce klesaji HP...teda Kruano, nejaka novinka

to asi neklesaji ale pokud ten shaman nespi tak zavola posily ...

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Stilgar
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Posted - 21/12/2005 :  11:33:02  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plussminuss

quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

a jak pak to?

sem ani nevedel ze shaman ma neco proti sapu, blindu

vim ze poison cleansing totem facha na blind, ale ten ma 5HP :) a proti sapu ma shaman co?



nic, proste stojim u vlajky (s rohazenejma totemamam samo) jako vlk...

tj sem beast, nejde me sapnout, ani na me nejde blind ...



nejvic me pobavi, kdyz ma shaman rozhazeny totemy, ja mu sundam tremor wandkou, dam seduce a beru vlajku by me vzdycky zajimalo, co dela ten na druhy strane co ma seduce a jen se kouka jak sroubuju



wandkou si sundaj co chces, ja ten totem pred seduce (a kdyz prichazi seduce tak o tom vim) stihnu dat znova ... to jestli ho stihnes znicit podruhe je uz otazka (jde to) ...

ale nez dobehnes k vlajce a stihnes ju ... tak neboj, ze seduce sem venku ... vetsnou



a ono pokud myslis ze me prekvapis vandnes totem a hned seducnes .. tak te zklamu .... na wolfa seduce samozrejme taky nejde (tvoje sucuba neni zoofil)

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tsawo
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Posted - 21/12/2005 :  11:40:26  Show Profile Send tsawo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Little

Sem si nevsiml ze pri seduce klesaji HP...teda Kruano, nejaka novinka



Dostal jsi me Tak jsem se soustredil abych napsal co nejvtipnejsi post, ze jsem napsal peknou hloupost. Kazdopadne Seduce ma docela pekny zvukovy efekt, ktery je slyset az do kuchyne.

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JerzeeG
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Posted - 21/12/2005 :  11:48:23  Show Profile  Send JerzeeG an ICQ Message Send JerzeeG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tsawo

quote:
Originally posted by Little

Sem si nevsiml ze pri seduce klesaji HP...teda Kruano, nejaka novinka



Dostal jsi me Tak jsem se soustredil abych napsal co nejvtipnejsi post, ze jsem napsal peknou hloupost. Kazdopadne Seduce ma docela pekny zvukovy efekt, ktery je slyset az do kuchyne.



nacez z kuchyne se ozve rinceni retezu a manzelcino volani: "ty prase, co to zase na tom internetu delas.."

jinak s tim aoe totemem, cekal jsem, ze me nekdo opravi, treba stilgar, ale nic, tak se opravim sam: vcera jsem to zkousel a i ten magma strili nazdarbuh, tedy bez cilovani, takze trefi cokoliv, co je blizko..

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plussminuss
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Posted - 21/12/2005 :  11:56:49  Show Profile Send plussminuss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar
wandkou si sundaj co chces, ja ten totem pred seduce (a kdyz prichazi seduce tak o tom vim) stihnu dat znova ... to jestli ho stihnes znicit podruhe je uz otazka (jde to) ...

ale nez dobehnes k vlajce a stihnes ju ... tak neboj, ze seduce sem venku ... vetsnou



a ono pokud myslis ze me prekvapis vandnes totem a hned seducnes .. tak te zklamu .... na wolfa seduce samozrejme taky nejde (tvoje sucuba neni zoofil)




vim co umi a neumi sucuba, me nemusis poucovat

btw seduce davam, kdyz sem krok od vlajky, abych k ni nemusel dobihat, spousta spousta spousta hracu se neuvedomi, ze sucubu nemusim pouzivat hned na zacatku boje a potom na to zapomenou

btw. rozebireme tu *****, vsechno zalezi samozrejme od situace, takze je to jedno, ja se jen ptal jak to vypada, ptze sem to nikdy nezazil takhle koukat a nemoct nic udelat
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moonwraiths
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Posted - 23/12/2005 :  19:35:31  Show Profile  Send moonwraiths an ICQ Message Send moonwraiths a Private Message  Reply with Quote
potřebuju aby jste mi zkritizovali tenhle build

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00532010500000003203050000000000000005055003003100000

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Bubak
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Posted - 25/12/2005 :  12:11:39  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by moonwraiths

potřebuju aby jste mi zkritizovali tenhle build
....


No mel bys napsat na co to chces, jestli highend pve, tak bych radsi volil klasickej 16/25/10 (4/5 DW + Blade flurry), jestli to chces spis na pvp tak 30/8/13 nebo 31/8/12.
Do highend pve, je ti imp sap nanic (imp ambush taky, je to akorat zdrzeni nez se dostanes za moba a nevyvazi to nedostatek bilyho dmg z dw + dagger spec) a na pvp je imo lepsi 21/8/22 kdyz chces mit preparation.

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MA3X
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Posted - 25/12/2005 :  14:03:20  Show Profile  Visit MA3X's Homepage Send MA3X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ja sem si udelal tenhle build ciste vlastni napad

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00500000000000000253550000500000000053050103003100000

chtel bych davat deamge v instancich MC/bwl ale zaroven chci bejt hodne dobrej v pvp je nakej takovej neutralni build?
dik za radu

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Shad3
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Posted - 25/12/2005 :  17:07:30  Show Profile  Visit Shad3's Homepage  Send Shad3 an ICQ Message Send Shad3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MA3X

ja sem si udelal tenhle build ciste vlastni napad

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00500000000000000253550000500000000053050103003100000

chtel bych davat deamge v instancich MC/bwl ale zaroven chci bejt hodne dobrej v pvp je nakej takovej neutralni build?
dik za radu



1) bez lethality se neda hrat
2) pokud mas nejaky itemy s +% hit, tak je precision na nic - je bugnuta, cap je 5% (inc itemy i talenty)
3) imp gouge je nutnost na pvp
4) MoD moc nevyuzijes - aspon takova je moje zkusenost, radsi bych dal body do camouflage a rapid conc (gouge, pockas 5sec az se dostanes ooc - restealth)
5) ghostly strikes je moc draha hracka - 50en, radsi bych tu energii vyuzil na backstab

klasickej dagger build
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?30532011500010003203000000000000000205055003000110000

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Edited by - Shad3 on 25/12/2005 17:08:38
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MA3X
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fle

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Posted - 25/12/2005 :  19:10:17  Show Profile  Visit MA3X's Homepage Send MA3X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shad3

quote:
Originally posted by MA3X

ja sem si udelal tenhle build ciste vlastni napad

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00500000000000000253550000500000000053050103003100000

chtel bych davat deamge v instancich MC/bwl ale zaroven chci bejt hodne dobrej v pvp je nakej takovej neutralni build?
dik za radu



1) bez lethality se neda hrat
2) pokud mas nejaky itemy s +% hit, tak je precision na nic - je bugnuta, cap je 5% (inc itemy i talenty)
3) imp gouge je nutnost na pvp
4) MoD moc nevyuzijes - aspon takova je moje zkusenost, radsi bych dal body do camouflage a rapid conc (gouge, pockas 5sec az se dostanes ooc - restealth)
5) ghostly strikes je moc draha hracka - 50en, radsi bych tu energii vyuzil na backstab

klasickej dagger build
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?30532011500010003203000000000000000205055003000110000



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Bubak
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Posted - 25/12/2005 :  19:41:57  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shad3
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klasickej dagger build
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?30532011500010003203000000000000000205055003000110000


No psal, ze chce davat dmg v highend instancich a to 21/8/22 z vlastnich zkusenosti moc nesplnuje, resp neni tak dobrej jako 31/8/12 (popr 30/8/13), preparation ti nevynahradi nedostatek cp ze seal fate. Na pvp je vynikajici, ale do pve bych se s nim moc nehrnul (zkousel sem vsechny buildy 21/8/22, 30/8/13 a tedka mam 16/25/10 a pokud bych se chtel venovat jak pvp tak pve, tak bych volil 30/8/13).

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MA3X
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fle

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Posted - 25/12/2005 :  20:21:36  Show Profile  Visit MA3X's Homepage Send MA3X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bubak

quote:
Originally posted by Shad3
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klasickej dagger build
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?30532011500010003203000000000000000205055003000110000


No psal, ze chce davat dmg v highend instancich a to 21/8/22 z vlastnich zkusenosti moc nesplnuje, resp neni tak dobrej jako 31/8/12 (popr 30/8/13), preparation ti nevynahradi nedostatek cp ze seal fate. Na pvp je vynikajici, ale do pve bych se s nim moc nehrnul (zkousel sem vsechny buildy 21/8/22, 30/8/13 a tedka mam 16/25/10 a pokud bych se chtel venovat jak pvp tak pve, tak bych volil 30/8/13).



muzes me udelat ten 30/8/13 na wow webu a postnout link? dik

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Shad3
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Posted - 25/12/2005 :  23:20:47  Show Profile  Visit Shad3's Homepage  Send Shad3 an ICQ Message Send Shad3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bubak

quote:
Originally posted by Shad3
....
klasickej dagger build
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?30532011500010003203000000000000000205055003000110000


No psal, ze chce davat dmg v highend instancich a to 21/8/22 z vlastnich zkusenosti moc nesplnuje, resp neni tak dobrej jako 31/8/12 (popr 30/8/13), preparation ti nevynahradi nedostatek cp ze seal fate. Na pvp je vynikajici, ale do pve bych se s nim moc nehrnul (zkousel sem vsechny buildy 21/8/22, 30/8/13 a tedka mam 16/25/10 a pokud bych se chtel venovat jak pvp tak pve, tak bych volil 30/8/13).



V daggerech se moc nevyznam - priznavam...
Pouzival sem je asi mesic v dobe, kdy sem se v tom este moc neorientoval, posledni dobou se zajimam jen o pve, takze potrebuju hlavne dps a tu ma combat rogue nejvyssi, naopak dagger rogue nejnizsi (i hemo je lepsi)

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Bubak
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Posted - 26/12/2005 :  14:18:49  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by MA3X
muzes me udelat ten 30/8/13 na wow webu a postnout link? dik


No dal bych neco takovyho
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?30532210503010503203000000000000000050050003000000000
Kdyztak si s tim muzes jeste vyhrat, tzn prohodit imp instant poison za imp expose armor nebo vyhodit imp snd a dat nekam jinam, ale jestli chces i nejaky to pve, tak je imp snd velkou vyhodou.

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Bubak
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Posted - 26/12/2005 :  14:24:40  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Shad3
V daggerech se moc nevyznam - priznavam...
Pouzival sem je asi mesic v dobe, kdy sem se v tom este moc neorientoval, posledni dobou se zajimam jen o pve, takze potrebuju hlavne dps a tu ma combat rogue nejvyssi, naopak dagger rogue nejnizsi (i hemo je lepsi)


S tim combatem souhlasim, taky se zajimam pouze o pve a z vlastni zkusenosti ti muzu rict, ze combat dagger tzn 16/25/10 je naprosto vybornej build do raidu. Dmg mam pri idealnich podminkach, tzn muzu stat za mobem celou dobu (napr Garr) o neco vetsi nez 20/31 s BB (ja mam GG) pokud mob pobiha tak trochu stracim, ale neni to nic vaznyho. A pri MC runu gehennas - domo byvam v top 3 naprosto bez problemu.
Jediny co nemuzu posoudit, je to jak si povedu v bwl, protoze tam sme se jeste nedostali :(

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Mefisto
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Posted - 28/12/2005 :  03:52:34  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shad3

quote:
Originally posted by MA3X

ja sem si udelal tenhle build ciste vlastni napad

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00500000000000000253550000500000000053050103003100000

chtel bych davat deamge v instancich MC/bwl ale zaroven chci bejt hodne dobrej v pvp je nakej takovej neutralni build?
dik za radu


2) pokud mas nejaky itemy s +% hit, tak je precision na nic - je bugnuta, cap je 5% (inc itemy i talenty)


to je strasny tohleto .. clovek odejde a hned tu ten clovek strili kraviny :p
precision jiz bugnuta neni .... kazdy bod v +hit ti snizuje offhand penalty ... bylo to opraveny myslim minulej nebo predminulej patch...
viz. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=590914&p=1&tmp=1#post590914

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Shad3
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Posted - 28/12/2005 :  16:07:24  Show Profile  Visit Shad3's Homepage  Send Shad3 an ICQ Message Send Shad3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto
to je strasny tohleto .. clovek odejde a hned tu ten clovek strili kraviny :p
precision jiz bugnuta neni .... kazdy bod v +hit ti snizuje offhand penalty ... bylo to opraveny myslim minulej nebo predminulej patch...
viz. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=590914&p=1&tmp=1#post590914



no, ze jim to ale trvalo :>

edit: btw sam pises, ze to snizuje jen miss chance offhandu... na MH je teda porad cap ?

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Edited by - Shad3 on 28/12/2005 17:37:41
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Posted - 29/12/2005 :  09:17:00  Show Profile  Send Soulkiller an ICQ Message Send Soulkiller a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mohol by sem nekdo pls postnut odskusany dagger/sword build. a popsat vyhody i nevyhody?
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Mark
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quote:
Originally posted by Soulkiller

Mohol by sem nekdo pls postnut odskusany dagger/sword build. a popsat vyhody i nevyhody?
dik


1,Dagger spec 21/8/22..Klasickej build s preparaci..
U nekterejch rogues se muze v par skillech lisit v sublety..(napr nekdo ma body v Initiative a kasle na imp sap..ci opacne, nebo ma ruzne rozdeleny body v rapid,Master detect.. nebo imp cheap.. da se s tim vyhrat.
Vyhoda buildu je Burst dmg z ambushe a BS(kdyz to zacrituje).. velky moznosti diky preparaci(stun lock atd)
Nevyhoda?.. Furt se natacet na soupere,abys byl za jeho zady.. nekdy je to celkem opruz..na dobry wary neni tenhle build idealni.. BSkem jit proti warovi neni moc stastny(mala dmg) Taky je dost velka nevyhoda v energii..Proste kdyz ti BS necritne,tak je to v podstate vyhozena energie.

Sword-Hemo build
21/3/25
S dobrym equipem mozna nejlepsi build pro rogue.Vychazi z klasickeho buildu,ktery ma navic bodik v Hemo. Nejlepsi je hodit body do imp cheap a initiate,kvuli stun locku nebo fast killu. 35energy za Hemo utok je celkem parada a je to mnohem uzitecnejsi nez SS.. odpada zbytecny nataceni jako pri BS,tim padem muzes pizlat pandulaky z jakekoliv strany.
Tenhle build moc nevyhod nema.. ja osobne ho nepouzivam,protoze miluju burst dmg z BS a nez bych si na ten build zvykl.....
Nepouziva se BS ani SS..

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Stilgar
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Posted - 30/12/2005 :  00:19:36  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mark

quote:
Originally posted by Soulkiller

Mohol by sem nekdo pls postnut odskusany dagger/sword build. a popsat vyhody i nevyhody?
dik


1,Dagger spec 21/8/22..Klasickej build s preparaci..
U nekterejch rogues se muze v par skillech lisit v sublety..(napr nekdo ma body v Initiative a kasle na imp sap..ci opacne, nebo ma ruzne rozdeleny body v rapid,Master detect.. nebo imp cheap.. da se s tim vyhrat.
Vyhoda buildu je Burst dmg z ambushe a BS(kdyz to zacrituje).. velky moznosti diky preparaci(stun lock atd)
Nevyhoda?.. Furt se natacet na soupere,abys byl za jeho zady.. nekdy je to celkem opruz..na dobry wary neni tenhle build idealni.. BSkem jit proti warovi neni moc stastny(mala dmg) Taky je dost velka nevyhoda v energii..Proste kdyz ti BS necritne,tak je to v podstate vyhozena energie.

Sword-Hemo build
21/3/25
S dobrym equipem mozna nejlepsi build pro rogue.Vychazi z klasickeho buildu,ktery ma navic bodik v Hemo. Nejlepsi je hodit body do imp cheap a initiate,kvuli stun locku nebo fast killu. 35energy za Hemo utok je celkem parada a je to mnohem uzitecnejsi nez SS.. odpada zbytecny nataceni jako pri BS,tim padem muzes pizlat pandulaky z jakekoliv strany.
Tenhle build moc nevyhod nema.. ja osobne ho nepouzivam,protoze miluju burst dmg z BS a nez bych si na ten build zvykl.....
Nepouziva se BS ani SS..


21+3+25=49

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 30/12/2005 :  01:21:51  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
PS: ve chvili kdy mas poradnou zbran, tak pro tebe ztraci eviscerate na krase a tim padem hemo build je imho useless
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Mohol by sem nekdo pls postnut odskusany dagger/sword build. a popsat vyhody i nevyhody?
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1,Dagger spec 21/8/22..Klasickej build s preparaci..
U nekterejch rogues se muze v par skillech lisit v sublety..(napr nekdo ma body v Initiative a kasle na imp sap..ci opacne, nebo ma ruzne rozdeleny body v rapid,Master detect.. nebo imp cheap.. da se s tim vyhrat.

Vyhoda buildu je Burst dmg z ambushe a BS(kdyz to zacrituje).. velky moznosti diky preparaci(stun lock atd)
Nevyhoda?.. Furt se natacet na soupere,abys byl za jeho zady.. nekdy je to celkem opruz..na dobry wary neni tenhle build idealni.. BSkem jit proti warovi neni moc stastny(mala dmg) Taky je dost velka nevyhoda v energii..Proste kdyz ti BS necritne,tak je to v podstate vyhozena energie.

Sword-Hemo build
21/3/25
S dobrym equipem mozna nejlepsi build pro rogue.Vychazi z klasickeho buildu,ktery ma navic bodik v Hemo. Nejlepsi je hodit body do imp cheap a initiate,kvuli stun locku nebo fast killu. 35energy za Hemo utok je celkem parada a je to mnohem uzitecnejsi nez SS.. odpada zbytecny nataceni jako pri BS,tim padem muzes pizlat pandulaky z jakekoliv strany.
Tenhle build moc nevyhod nema.. ja osobne ho nepouzivam,protoze miluju burst dmg z BS a nez bych si na ten build zvykl.....
Nepouziva se BS ani SS..


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edit: btw sam pises, ze to snizuje jen miss chance offhandu... na MH je teda porad cap ?



na MH logicky cap byt musi ... mainhand ma miss chance proti 300 defensi 5% ... tzn. 5% je logicky maximum kteryho muzes na MH dosahnout { pak uz ti zadnej mh utok nemissne } ... nicmene jakejkoliv bod nad 5% zurocis kdyz bojujes s mobamama level 61 a vys ktery maj vyssi defensi popr. s warama ktery maj na sobe tank equip

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co si myslite o tomto temp, kterej bych chtel mit na svem roquovi
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00502300555005010250500030000000000050000000000000000
???

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Originally posted by Pavel1269

co si myslite o tomto temp, kterej bych chtel mit na svem roquovi
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00502300555005010250500030000000000050000000000000000
???



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Originally posted by Pavel1269

co si myslite o tomto temp, kterej bych chtel mit na svem roquovi
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00502300555005010250500030000000000050000000000000000
???



tenhle build zda se me ponekud debilni

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hmm a co tenhle?
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00502300500000000250500030500005000050050001000000000
nechce se mi jit do talentu co ma skoro kazdej

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Ono to ze je ma skoro kazdej bude mit nejakej duvod...
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Originally posted by Pavel1269

hmm a co tenhle?
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00502300500000000250500030500005000050050001000000000
nechce se mi jit do talentu co ma skoro kazdej



pavle prosimte kdyz to ma kazdej to znamena ze bude asi dobrej ...

rekni me co chches hrat jestli dagger nebo ostatni zbrane

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Originally posted by MA3X
pavle prosimte kdyz to ma kazdej to znamena ze bude asi dobrej ...

rekni me co chches hrat jestli dagger nebo ostatni zbrane


no chtel bych hrat na dagger a pokud mozno vic na PVP
zatim ale ve WoW nemam zkusenosti s PvP, tak nic nevim no :))
podle toho co tu rikate sem zkusil teda udelat ten template 21/8/22 ... bohuzel sem nikde nenarazil jak vypada, tak sem ho zkusil sam udelat tohleto, snad je to ono
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?30532010501010003203000000000000000025055003000020000

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http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?31532010500010003203000000000000000052055003000110000

Zkus to takhle
Chybela ti tam preparation, coz je hodne dulezitej skill v pvp, resetnes s nim vsechny cooldowny, takze prakticky muzes jet nejaky svoje komba znova. Camouflage sice vypada hezky, ale mnohem dulezitejsi je Master of deception. Nevim sice presny mereni, ale pry to je velmi znat jak v pvp tak v pve. Nekdy si berou rougove v subtetly jeste improve sap, aby byli uzitecnejsi v instancich. To bys pak musel vyhodit improved cheap shot, coz s dagger rougem stejne budes pouzivat minimalne a camouflage

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Originally posted by Nataniel

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?31532010500010003203000000000000000052055003000110000

Zkus to takhle
Chybela ti tam preparation, coz je hodne dulezitej skill v pvp, resetnes s nim vsechny cooldowny, takze prakticky muzes jet nejaky svoje komba znova. Camouflage sice vypada hezky, ale mnohem dulezitejsi je Master of deception. Nevim sice presny mereni, ale pry to je velmi znat jak v pvp tak v pve. Nekdy si berou rougove v subtetly jeste improve sap, aby byli uzitecnejsi v instancich. To bys pak musel vyhodit improved cheap shot, coz s dagger rougem stejne budes pouzivat minimalne a camouflage



mod sux ... pouzijes to jen proti ostatnim roguum = k nicemu
camo je dulezitejsi .. aspon do BG urcite
prep . k
nemit imp cs je gimp jak prase, ztratis tim zakladni moznost stunlocku [ pokud nemas 5/8ns]
cs ss gouge
50 40 45

oproti
60 40 45 = musis cekat dalsi 2 sekundy - gimp
imp sap ... no nevim imo je to overrated, dobry tak na srani lidi :p

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Posted - 10/02/2006 :  10:15:19  Show Profile  Send Warlord an ICQ Message Send Warlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
na levelovani bych volil urcite jiny build nez tady vsichni rikaj a to aasi ten, co mam ja a to je 20/31

na 21/8/22 respecnout pripadne az na lvl 60... IMHO
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na levelovani bych volil urcite jiny build nez tady vsichni rikaj a to aasi ten, co mam ja a to je 20/31

na 21/8/22 respecnout pripadne az na lvl 60... IMHO


18/33 rulez ... imp kick rulez :)

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Originally posted by Mefisto

quote:
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na levelovani bych volil urcite jiny build nez tady vsichni rikaj a to aasi ten, co mam ja a to je 20/31

na 21/8/22 respecnout pripadne az na lvl 60... IMHO


18/33 rulez ... imp kick rulez :)


imp kick je desna sracka talent, nebrat !

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Ja jedu s novou sedesatkou Cold Blood a Preparation (v tom improve sap)...

Main hand Krol Blade...nemam poradnej offhand ani vybavu na full combat sword

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imp kick je desna sracka talent, nebrat !


doted nechapu jak sou lidi schopny kdyz jdou full combat minout tenhle talent ... 2 sec silence co 10 sekund za smesnou energii je fakt imba

ad ten posledni post, s krol bladem budto hemo nebo full combat, oba buildy sou super a nezalezi tolik na equipu ... ja bych osobne sel do combat ale to je kazdyho vec :]

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Chtel bych si uzit 5man instance,proto sem to dal do improve sap...k tomu uz combat swor moc nejde =) Proto sem sel cestou CB a Prepa

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Mefisto
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imp sap je imo dost k nicemu:) kazdou 5 man instanci das naprosot snadno bez toho (nehlede na to jak omezeny to je .. facha to jen na humanoidy)

mel sem imp sap kvuli group pve hodne dlouho a za celou dobu sem to pouzil tak malokrat ze sem to casem shodil

co by osobne me hlavne chybelo v combatu by byla elusiveness, initiative, hemo ... sap fakt ne :)

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No ja sem chtel dostat rogua na lvl rychle skrz questovani, ponevadz grindovani exp bych asi psychicky neprezil.

sel sem tudiz do combat swords s podobnym buildem jako je tenhle:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?30530010500000000250551100050150031000000000000000000

na 60 sem se delal instance a PvP abych dostal nejakej blue gear. A do AV bez preparation nelez, by se dalo rict :D Tady uz sem mel daggers a build podobny tomuhle:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues/talents.html?30531012500010003203000000000000000050054003003110000

Ty buildy nejsou mozna 100% stejny jaky sem mel, ale je to uz nejaka doba zpatky :)

Tedka sem combat dagger specced kvuli BWL. Sice v PvP nejsem moc velkej maser, ale vetsinu exalted veci z BGs uz mam, takze to je fuk. A v guild AB nebo WSG vlajku udrzim i stimhle PVP gimped buildem. V ZG/MC/BWL zase ale zarim.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues/talents.html?00530310500000003203250000350100000050050000000000000

Impr sap je dobry v PVP jedine snad do AB na zabrani vlajky. Sap - vzit vlajku - zabit guarda. Ale musi byt sam. Nebo dobry v PVP 1v1 na to aby bubladin pouzit svoji gay bublinu. V PVE dobry snad jedine do hodne spatny grupy v UBRS. trochu pomuze.

V BGs: Camo > MoD.

V Alterac Valley: Ambush+Backstab > all




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V Alterac Valley: Ambush+Backstab > all



hm.. CS + hemo + CB evisc dokaze taky zabit clothaka behem 2sec :p

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AV sux :p ambush backstab .. no nevim
blue rogue chance to crit 20% ( popr. i epiced rogue ... kdyz jede mainly AP )
backstab +30
ambush +45

celkova sance na crit tohohle je 33% cca ... to se mi nezda nijak imba protoze kdyz to necritne tak to fakt neni tak super

cs hemo cb evis popř.
cs hemo trinket hemo hemo evisc sou daleko lepsi komba nez ambush bs ... nehlede na to ze pote co das ambush backstab tak jsi zcela bez energie .. nemas na blind nemas na kick nemas na nic

a hemo ani combat build nejsou zavisly na critu ... crit je neco co se stane obcas a je to brany jen jako navic

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ja sem hemo nikdy nezkousel. Klido je to mozny. Jenom sem chtel rict, ze v AV mas fakt asi tak 2 sec na to udelat nejakou dmg nez se na tebe zameri 30 lidi. Ale musim rict, ze rogue v AV hodne dokaze. Nejenom DPS. Kdyz sem konecne prisel na to jak co v AV funguje, tak to byl mazec ^^
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Dagger build je supr,ale ma dost nevyhod,jak to tu kolega uvedl.
Kdyz to necritne je to proste na hovno a 60energie je vyhozenejch voknem..(mezi ranou za 250-300 a ranou za 1000-1400 =do castera,je obrovsky rozdil)
Ani nevim kolikrat se me stalo,ze sem jel kombicko,nahazel sem 4-5BS a ani jeden me necritnul.:() (a to amm full epic MC/BWL vybavu)
Nicmene,je to hodne pouzitelnej build,kterej me bavi a vyhovuje me,bohuzel to obcas nekdy nevyjde.
U tohohle buildu je hodne velka vyhoda v tom,ze se udela hodne velka pocatecni dmg a diky thistle tea se da souper rychle vyridit.(Celkem vyhodne v AB,WSG kdyz na vas jdou dva a vy potrebujete hodne rychle sejmout jednoho pandulaka) --- To se s hemo buildem dela hure.

Kazdopadne Hemo build je hodne univerzalni build.. nemusite aliky pichat jen zezadu,ale muzete je pichat ze vsech stran,takze odpada nekdy vtipne dostani se za souperova zada. S dobrym equipem je tento build hodne smrtici (viz Nobody,take se da delat dobrej stun lock (pripominam:hemo jen 35energy)

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Jo, hemo by mel byt mnohem vic variabilni. Ale jak rikam nezkousel, tudiz muzu soudit jenom podle webu.

Jinak ale docela plati, ze s modrym equipem je mnohem lepsi jit do ambush+backstab (mozna hemo, ale to sem nezkousel) a rogue ve full epicu muze jit klido do combat speccu v PvP, protoze equip z nej udela masinku.

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Jo, hemo by mel byt mnohem vic variabilni. Ale jak rikam nezkousel, tudiz muzu soudit jenom podle webu.

Jinak ale docela plati, ze s modrym equipem je mnohem lepsi jit do ambush+backstab (mozna hemo, ale to sem nezkousel) a rogue ve full epicu muze jit klido do combat speccu v PvP, protoze equip z nej udela masinku.





hm, combat spec mi pride dost gimped na pvp... malo CP - narocny na energy

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Originally posted by Shad3

quote:
Originally posted by Brum

Jo, hemo by mel byt mnohem vic variabilni. Ale jak rikam nezkousel, tudiz muzu soudit jenom podle webu.

Jinak ale docela plati, ze s modrym equipem je mnohem lepsi jit do ambush+backstab (mozna hemo, ale to sem nezkousel) a rogue ve full epicu muze jit klido do combat speccu v PvP, protoze equip z nej udela masinku.




na combat spec potrebujes 110 energy ... bez toho je to gimp pac nema stunlock bez adrenaline rushe


hm, combat spec mi pride dost gimped na pvp... malo CP - narocny na energy


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