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Stilgar
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 Posted - 14/06/2004 : 02:47:01
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po dlouhym zvazovanim sem se nakonec rozhodl ze precijenom pujdu s carabinou ...
zvazuju 3 mozny rozhozeni skillu
1. Carabina + defenze z TKA, fencera a pistolera, novice medikCarabine 4444, Fencer 3040, pistol 0040, TKA 0304
Melee Defense +116
Melee Mitigation +4
Ranged Defense +128
Ranged Mitigation +5
Counterattack +105
Defense Acuity +71
Defense vs Blind +90
Defense vs Dizzy +85
Defense vs Intimidate +45
Defense vs Knockdown +85
Defense vs Posture Change +50
Defense vs Stun +55
Dodge +85
2. Carabina + defenze z TKA + Doctor prvni lajna na cure poison a desease.
Carabine 4444, Doc 4000, TKA 0304
Melee Defense +62
Melee Mitigation +2
Ranged Defense +72
Ranged Mitigation +3
Counterattack +105
Defense Acuity +71
Defense vs Blind +10
Defense vs Dizzy +5
Defense vs Intimidate +25
Defense vs Knockdown +35
Defense vs Posture Change +30
Defense vs Stun +15
+ medical use 55 (mel by stacit na Acka cury)
3. Carabineer + Master doc
+ress, +cure, +buffy
- defence na pikachu
co by ste vzolili ? .. limituju se tou carabinou bo me po commandu bavi asi nejvic.
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[Stilgar]
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Khaot
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Posted - 14/06/2004 : 07:52:56
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Carbineera mam uz potreti, takze si myslim, ze bych ti k tomu mohl neco rict.
Urcite brat master carbineera a to z toho duvodu, ze carabine je neskutecne pomala zbran. Nemyslim absolutne, to patri na stred mezi pistoli a rifli, ale carbineer (povolani) ma maly skill carbine speed (master ma 60). Takze bud musis sehnat rychlou zbran, nebo speed powerup, coz je zase na ukor dmg. Problem s rychlosti se da resit pomoci vetve z BH a s tim i zvyseni presnosti a dalsi specky, ale stoji to hodne SP.
Co se kombinace s dalsimi povolanim tyce, tak na fencera zapomen, to spis kombinuj se swordsmanem. Fencerum dodge je ti u carabiny naprd, protoze tento skill se v pripade, kdy drzit carabinu v ruce neaktivuje (to samo pro dodge z pistole). Jedine defence, ktere se z ostatnich povolani (krome swordsmana) pripocitavaji jsou neaktivni defence, jako melee def, ranged def, def vs KD/Dizzy/Stun/Intim.
Co se nastaveni tyce, je rozhoduji, kterym smerem se chces vydat. Pokud chces doce na heal poison/disease, tak ti uz moc bodu nezbyva. Potom uz jen rozhodnout, kam....jestli pistole nebo TKA. V tomto pripade bych asi volil TKA, kvuli jeho schopnostem zvedat se z dizzy.
Master carbineer/Doctor 4000/TKA 0304.
Nebo potom jit cestou aktivni defence, to znamena zapomenou na doce, vzit z TKA i meditaci (na leceni woundu, poisonu a disease a k tomu male bufy) a jeste si pribrat defence.
Neco jako Master carbineer/TKA 4004/fencer 3440/Medic 2040 (nebo omezit neco z fencera a vzit z TKA, ci vice omezit medica....to uz bude zalezet na tobe, kazdopadne tento char bude velmi defenzivni)
Mozna jeste neco omezit a vzit master marksmana kvuli dalsim 5 bodum jak do rychlosti, tak do presnosti, coz by ti mohlo zrychlit v nekterych pripade strelbu o 1s)
Ale jeste te chci upozornit, ze carbineer je v soucasne dobe snad nejvic gimped povolani (ranged na 100%, jak moc na tom je s pikemanem netusim). Nema zadnou kloudnout dmg, zadnou kloudnou zbran a jeho specky jsou silne limitovane. Presto verim tomu, ze po rewampu se to zlepsi, ale kdy ten bude, netusim. |
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Jedi_Knight
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Posted - 14/06/2004 : 21:25:06
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Originally posted by Khaot
Ale jeste te chci upozornit, ze carbineer je v soucasne dobe snad nejvic gimped povolani (ranged na 100%, jak moc na tom je s pikemanem netusim). Nema zadnou kloudnout dmg, zadnou kloudnou zbran a jeho specky jsou silne limitovane. Presto verim tomu, ze po rewampu se to zlepsi, ale kdy ten bude, netusim.
Fifty - fifty. Taky verim ze Combat Revamp opravi jak Pikemana, tak Carabineera. Momentalni PvP rozdil techto povolani je v tom, ze Pikeman ma Mind DOT kopí, zatímco Carabineer ani to.
Jinak co se buildu týče - doporucoval bych ten prvni, uz jen proto, ze ma nejlepsi defense. Pokud ale funguje CoB i na ranged attacky, bylo by lepsi pridat tam Swordsmana, jelikoz CoB se vztahuje na Counterattack stejne jako na Dodge. |
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Klattu
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Posted - 16/06/2004 : 08:42:47
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Originally posted by Stilgar
po dlouhym zvazovanim sem se nakonec rozhodl ze precijenom pujdu s carabinou ...
zvazuju 3 mozny rozhozeni skillu
1. Carabina + defenze z TKA, fencera a pistolera, novice medik
Carabine 4444, Fencer 3040, pistol 0040, TKA 0304
Melee Defense +116
Melee Mitigation +4
Melee/Range Mit se nescita, max co muzes mit jsou 3 a fungujete, jen pokud mas v ruce prislusnou zbran, tudiz melee s carbinou v ruce je ti na nic. Navic v PvE mitigation nema moc efekt.
Ranged Defense +128
Na range/melee defense, CA, Block a Dodge je skill cap 125, vse navic se nepocita, pokud to nemas zvedle skill tapama, pak ano.
Ranged Mitigation +5
Counterattack +105
CA je pro swordsmana, pokud nemas v ruce 2-H sword tak se neaktivuje, stejne jako pro pikemana block nebo pro fencera/pistoleera dodge.
Edit> CA ma i Carbineer a Block Rifleman, otazka jak moc funguji, rozhodne ne tak, jak maji podle popisu. Tudiz na tento skill moc nespolehat.
Defense Acuity +71
Defense vs Blind +90
Defense vs Dizzy +85
Defense vs Intimidate +45
Defense vs Knockdown +85
Defense vs Posture Change +50
Defense vs Stun +55
Dodge +85
2. Carabina + defenze z TKA + Doctor prvni lajna na cure poison a desease.
Carabine 4444, Doc 4000, TKA 0304
Melee Defense +62
Melee Mitigation +2
Ranged Defense +72
Ranged Mitigation +3
Counterattack +105
Defense Acuity +71
Defense vs Blind +10
Defense vs Dizzy +5
Defense vs Intimidate +25
Defense vs Knockdown +35
Defense vs Posture Change +30
Defense vs Stun +15
+ medical use 55 (mel by stacit na Acka cury)
3. Carabineer + Master doc
+ress, +cure, +buffy
- defence na pikachu
co by ste vzolili ? .. limituju se tou carabinou bo me po commandu bavi asi nejvic.
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Edited by - Klattu on 16/06/2004 08:59:41 |
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Berserk
<Mor do Kuli>
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Posted - 16/06/2004 : 12:20:41
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| Uz sem nejakou dobu mimo, ale muzu doporucit Master Carb + BH 3400. Pokud veris, ze nejlepsi obrana je utok tak je to template pro tebe. Defense je mizerna to je bez debat. Na druhou stranu jsou vsechny carbine specky na speed capu vcetne Cripling shotu. V BH carb line jsou super dizzy a KD specky, cili pokud to dobre vyjde tak se nepritel z dizzy locku nedostane. Problemem jsou lidi s vysokou KD/Dizzy defense nebo Docove co si to umej curnout za boje. Zajimavy jsou AE dizzy a AE KD specky z Carbineera, ktery diky BH presnosti a rychlosti dokazou prekvapit. Mno a jako bonus muzes lovit Jedi (pokud to nak nezmenili). |
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Berserk [CzH][-W-], (retired) |
Edited by - Berserk on 16/06/2004 12:22:35 |
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Stilgar
Average Member
1971 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2004 : 16:56:47
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2klattu: Dik, ale tohle ja vsechno vim ...
CA plati jak ke swordu tak ke carabine, u carabin sice nejak pochybne ale je tam, to ze nekery hodnoty lezou prez jejich skill cap je sice smula (treba ta def 128, mitigation4) ale lip se mi to namichat nepovedlo. |
[Stilgar]
Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen.
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muanxi
Starting Member
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Posted - 02/08/2004 : 09:48:54
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Originally posted by Stilgar
2klattu: Dik, ale tohle ja vsechno vim ...
CA plati jak ke swordu tak ke carabine, u carabin sice nejak pochybne ale je tam, to ze nekery hodnoty lezou prez jejich skill cap je sice smula (treba ta def 128, mitigation4) ale lip se mi to namichat nepovedlo.
cau jakou variantu jsi tedy zvolil?
Ja bych taky mozna zkusil toho carabinera, ale rad bych se poradil nejdrive. |
Muanxi Assasssin Xiam - EQ2 - MDK
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Genagen
Junior Member
589 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2004 : 13:32:56
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| Jabych vzal k master karabine master BH. IMO legrace az az :-) |
Genagen [EQ2]: Kerra, ShadowKnight
Shadow Wind Guild Leader and RaidWiki admin |
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Stilgar
Average Member
1971 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2004 : 13:45:44
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no kdyz carbinu tak asi nejlip stacknout s BH vetvi to pak mas silenou speed a muzes stock, scope a dmg slice a delas hafo dmg..
ale ty defy sou nahovno no :/
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[Stilgar]
Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen.
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Hosty
Average Member
1177 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2004 : 14:37:26
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| Najlepsie je podla mna BH + TKA. |
-Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power. Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free- |
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Giltanas
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718 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2004 : 16:14:27
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Tak me napada jde udelat nejaky makro na prezbrojeni?
Jinak porad si nejsem jistej co bude lepsi a rozhoduju se mezi
Medic 4444 combat medic 4444 marksman 4004 a rifleman 4444
nebo
Medic 4444 combat medic 4444 marksman 0404 a pistolier 4444
PvP me samozrejme ceka cili s ohledem na tohle.
Kdyz poradite budu rad :-) |
EVE online Alypia, Aureol T'haen - CHON |
Edited by - Giltanas on 10/08/2004 16:38:38 |
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Black
Moderator
2371 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2004 : 16:57:00
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Medic 4444 combat medic 0004 doktor 4240 marksman 4004 a rifleman 4444
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Giltanas
Moderator
718 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2004 : 18:21:53
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| Hmmm to zni zajimaje. Muzu se zeptat proc?:-) Tim prijdu o lecenei na dalku a leci mindu ne? |
EVE online Alypia, Aureol T'haen - CHON |
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Algul
New Member
140 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2004 : 18:37:52
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DOC 4240 - Muzes bufovat sam sebe a lecit poison a disease
CM 0004 - Muzes hazet area poison/disease C
MASTER Rifleman - Nejsilnesi zbrane(AR piercing 3) a miri speckama rovnou do mindu
a doc ted muze davat i buff pro resisty na poison a disease
CM 0004 navic dava Terrain Negotiation +40
EDIT:a vzhledem k tem buffum na poison/disease resisty si nejsem jistej jestly se CM vyplati.Dneska to je live tak to chce otestovat.Nepochybuju ze kazdej kdo pujde na PvP si tendle buff sezene. |
WoW - Ragnaros - Algul - Tauren Shaman
Killer 93% Achiever 53% Explorer 53% Socializer 0%
A.L.G.U.L. : Anorganický Likvidátor na Genocidu a Utlačování Lidí |
Edited by - Algul on 10/08/2004 18:43:17 |
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Black
Moderator
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 18:38:58
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Zustane Ti rychlost CM, budes moct v omezeny mire hazet healy a poisny na dalku ale hlavne si ty poisny a disiase v PvP budes umet healnout a to je v tuhle chvili nejpodstatnejsi.
EDIT: ...ze by zmena ? neco me uteklo ? ze by ty bufy zachranili PvP ? ...mam snad lognout ? |
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Edited by - Black on 10/08/2004 18:50:01 |
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Algul
New Member
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 18:53:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Black
Zustane Ti rychlost CM, budes moct v omezeny mire hazet healy a poisny na dalku ale hlavne si ty poisny a disiase v PvP budes umet healnout a to je v tuhle chvili nejpodstatnejsi.
EDIT: ...ze by zmena ? neco me uteklo ? ze by ty bufy zachranili PvP ? ...mam snad lognout ?
Jeste sem nemel moznost to otestovat ale podle popisu to vypada na NERF CM
ale ani nevim jak silny ty buffy sou ani jak dlouho vydrzej
9.3 Update Notes
Travel
Decreased starport wait times to 5 minutes.
Profession: Doctor
Added point blank area poison & disease cures for Doctors
Added new Doctor Disease & Poison Resistance Buffs.
Combat
Poisons and diseases no longer automatically hit, but now have a chance to hit based on their potency. Most current poisons & diseases will affect the target a similar amount of time. The resistance effectiveness of the Poison Resist & Disease Resist Buffs will reduce the chance of being affected by a poison or disease. There will always be a 5% chance of being affected and a 5% chance of resisting no matter how high the resistance or potency ratings get.
Added message to target when they resist a poison or disease
GCW
Increased turret hitpoints for Faction Bases and Free standing turrets
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WoW - Ragnaros - Algul - Tauren Shaman
Killer 93% Achiever 53% Explorer 53% Socializer 0%
A.L.G.U.L. : Anorganický Likvidátor na Genocidu a Utlačování Lidí |
Edited by - Algul on 10/08/2004 19:00:30 |
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