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kundihrabka
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Posted - 03/03/2006 :  11:28:51  Show Profile Send kundihrabka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Koron

ne to je rank 5 - level 56

rank 1 - level 14
1 Point : 25 Armor
2 points: 50 Armor
3 points: 75 Armor
4 points: 100 Armor
5 points: 125 Armor



Fakt jo?

Expose Armor (Rank 5)
25 Energy 5 yd range
Instant
Requires Melee Weapon
Finishing move that exposes the target for 30 sec, reducing armor per combo point:
1 point : 340 armor
2 points: 680 armor
3 points: 1020 armor
4 points: 1360 armor
5 points: 1700 armor

To, ze Buh nikdy nebyl neznamena, ze neni treba se Ho zbavit.
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Koron
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Posted - 03/03/2006 :  11:35:56  Show Profile Send Koron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no tak to pak jo no ...na tom internetu sou uvedeny pekny nesmysly
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Triskac
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Posted - 09/03/2006 :  00:22:15  Show Profile  Visit Triskac's Homepage  Send Triskac an ICQ Message Send Triskac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Neviete ci ma +spell dmg nejaky vplyv na velkost damage z Thunderfury procu ? Urcite ste sa o to niekto uz zaujimal a budede vediet

http://ctprofiles.net/603044
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Mefisto
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Posted - 09/03/2006 :  06:45:31  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Triskac

Neviete ci ma +spell dmg nejaky vplyv na velkost damage z Thunderfury procu ? Urcite ste sa o to niekto uz zaujimal a budede vediet


+dmg nefunguje na zadny procy

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Stilgar
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Posted - 09/03/2006 :  08:32:45  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto

quote:
Originally posted by Triskac

Neviete ci ma +spell dmg nejaky vplyv na velkost damage z Thunderfury procu ? Urcite ste sa o to niekto uz zaujimal a budede vediet


+dmg nefunguje na zadny procy



ORLY ?
tak z hlavy me napada treba SoC, SoR ...

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Little
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Posted - 09/03/2006 :  08:34:41  Show Profile  Send Little an ICQ Message Send Little a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar
ORLY ?
tak z hlavy me napada treba SoC, SoR ...


Myslel samozrejme active proc ze zbrane. Neslovickar :P

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 09/03/2006 :  10:11:35  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ovlivnovani +dmg/healing procu z itemu se zrusilo po te, co paladinove/shamani meli 2-4x silnejsi healing z crusaderu
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Triskac
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Posted - 09/03/2006 :  13:00:58  Show Profile  Visit Triskac's Homepage  Send Triskac an ICQ Message Send Triskac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ach, no to je skoda :)

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Mefisto
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Posted - 10/03/2006 :  04:52:44  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar

quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto

quote:
Originally posted by Triskac

Neviete ci ma +spell dmg nejaky vplyv na velkost damage z Thunderfury procu ? Urcite ste sa o to niekto uz zaujimal a budede vediet


+dmg nefunguje na zadny procy



ORLY ?
tak z hlavy me napada treba SoC, SoR ...


neslovickar :p ano... myslel sem samozrejme jen procy na itemech coz naprosto kazdymu mohlo z kontextu dojit :p

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Mefisto
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Posted - 11/03/2006 :  06:07:42  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
kuku .. dalsi hotfixo boost

On the test server applying poison no longer breaks stealth!


reply od drysca
I have been working closely with our various teams to see this through to implementation, it seems to have made it in without me noticing. It is indeed an intended change for 1.10 and is currently active on the PTRs.

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Relative
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Posted - 11/03/2006 :  18:46:55  Show Profile  Send Relative an ICQ Message Send Relative a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kundihrabka

quote:
Originally posted by Koron

muj nejlepsi build

2x fist weapon
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00400000000000003200550100050000000045505000030120010



Jestli je tohle Tvuj nejlepsi build, tak bych si snad asi ani nepral videt ten nejhorsi


Muzete nekdo uvest nejaky universal build a pak nejaky best primo jen na pvp?

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kundihrabka
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Posted - 12/03/2006 :  01:43:15  Show Profile Send kundihrabka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Relative
Muzete nekdo uvest nejaky universal build a pak nejaky best primo jen na pvp?



Univerzalni na PvP/PvE muze byt treba seal fate dagger 30(31)/8/13(12)
Nejlepsi na PvP asi hemorrhage 21/3/27, nebo preparation dagger 21/8/22

To, ze Buh nikdy nebyl neznamena, ze neni treba se Ho zbavit.
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Mefisto
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Posted - 12/03/2006 :  04:08:36  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
imo 18/33 je best do battlegroundu, jinak i ostatni buildy sou super

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Sacrifice
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Posted - 13/03/2006 :  18:33:47  Show Profile  Send Sacrifice an ICQ Message Send Sacrifice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto

imo 18/33 je best do battlegroundu, jinak i ostatni buildy sou super


hm no neviem. ja som to mal a po respece do 24/0/27 nebe a dudy...
jak mozes behat v BG bez RC ?? ;p a tiez CB by mi veeelmi chybal

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Pharoxx
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Posted - 13/03/2006 :  19:54:16  Show Profile  Send Pharoxx an ICQ Message Send Pharoxx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sacrifice
hm no neviem. ja som to mal a po respece do 24/0/27 nebe a dudy...
jak mozes behat v BG bez RC ?? ;p a tiez CB by mi veeelmi chybal




Hmm, co mas tech 24? Me osobne by tam chybel ten imp gouge, takze bych sel radsi do 21/3/27. Ted zkousim 18/33/0 a neni to tak hrozny do BG...jen obcas mam chute rozflakat klavesnici

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Triskac
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Posted - 14/03/2006 :  03:35:44  Show Profile  Visit Triskac's Homepage  Send Triskac an ICQ Message Send Triskac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto

kuku .. dalsi hotfixo boost

On the test server applying poison no longer breaks stealth!


reply od drysca
I have been working closely with our various teams to see this through to implementation, it seems to have made it in without me noticing. It is indeed an intended change for 1.10 and is currently active on the PTRs.



viac by som sa potesil keby poisony nepadali pri zonovani

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kundihrabka
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Posted - 14/03/2006 :  09:43:28  Show Profile Send kundihrabka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Triskac
viac by som sa potesil keby poisony nepadali pri zonovani


Blizzard se k tomu kdysi vyjadroval, ze to je dost velky technicky problem, tak si tento druh poteseni budes muset spis odeprit.

To, ze Buh nikdy nebyl neznamena, ze neni treba se Ho zbavit.
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qsubt
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Posted - 25/03/2006 :  13:53:13  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
koketuju s myslenkou ze bych si na funny play udelal rogua a hned bych mel dotaz

humans jako rasa maji talent k mace a sword, +5, je to ve vysledku to same co PRECISION 5/5 kde je chance to hit +5% (samozrejme v pripade uziti techto zbrani) nebo je to neco jineho?
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Mefisto
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Posted - 25/03/2006 :  17:16:19  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by qsubt

koketuju s myslenkou ze bych si na funny play udelal rogua a hned bych mel dotaz

humans jako rasa maji talent k mace a sword, +5, je to ve vysledku to same co PRECISION 5/5 kde je chance to hit +5% (samozrejme v pripade uziti techto zbrani) nebo je to neco jineho?


haha :)
+5 sword =

0.2 crit
0.2 hit
-0.2 enemy dodge
-0.2 enemy parry
-0.2 enemy block

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qsubt
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Posted - 15/04/2006 :  16:44:51  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jak sem mozna psal nebo nepsal, chcu si udelat roguna na fun pvp a tak kolem, nikdy sem rogua nezkousel tak nevim co az jak je podstatne a co neni podstatne za skily a talenty jako

jelikoz to ma byt ale fun postava vim ze chcu massive subtlety vetev, no naplanoval jsem si to nejak takto:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues/talents.html?00532010000000000053010000000000000054505100003120311

komu se nechce klikat:
****************************
Assassination Talents (11 points)

# Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

# Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

# Murder - 2/2 points
Increases your chance to hit while using your Sap, Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot abilities by 5%.

# Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.



Combat Talents (9 points)

# Lightning Reflexes - 5/5 points
Increases your Dodge chance by 5%.

# Improved Backstab - 3/3 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 30%.

# Precision - 1/5 point
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 1%.



Subtlety Talents (31 points)

# Master of Deception - 5/5 points
Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode. More effective than Master of Deception (Rank 4)

# Camouflage - 4/5 points
Increases your speed while stealthed by 12%.

# Elusiveness - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Evasion, Vanish, and Blind abilities by 1.3 minutes.

# Initiative - 5/5 points
Gives you a 75% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.

# Ghostly Strike - 1/1 point
A strike that deals 125% weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 seconds. Awards 1 combo point.

# Improved Sap - 3/3 points
Gives you a 90% chance to return to stealth mode after using your Sap ability.

# Improved Cheap Shot - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot ability by 20.

# Preparation - 1/1 point
When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.

# Setup - 3/3 points
Gives you a 45% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack.

# Hemorrhage - 1/1 point
An instant strike that damages the opponent and causes the target to hermorrhage, increasing any Physical damage dealt to the target by up to 3. Lasts 30 charges or 15 seconds. Awards 1 combo point.

Level 46: 5 damage increase
Level 58: 7 damage increase

# Premeditation - 1/1 point
When used, adds 2 combo points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 10 seconds or the combo points are lost.
****************************


a) byl by to logicky dagger + dagger
b) predpokladam ze ten SETUP skill je jakoby pasivni, tj ze kdyz nahodim treba proti varovi EVASION tak v kombinaci s tim SETUPEM se "oteckuje" v podstate sam?
c) je to dost fun build? budu met problemy spis s clotherama nebo sekackama?

Edited by - qsubt on 15/04/2006 16:50:29
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Bubak
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Posted - 15/04/2006 :  16:55:39  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by qsubt

...


No abych rekl pravdu, tak mit build na pvp s daggerama a nezahrnout do nej Opportunity a Lethality mi prijde jako dost ujety. Plus tam mas jak Ghostly strike tak Hemo, coz nejsou zrovna utoky vhodny pro daggery, rozhodne bych taky pridal imp gouge. A pokud si sezenes gear na kterym bude +5% chance to hit, tak je ti murder nanic. A urcite bych pridal i imp evis, celkove mi ten build prijde dost zmatenej, spis bych si udelal nejakou klasiku, ktera tu uz nekolikrat byla citovana (31/8/12 nebo 21/8/22).

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Mefisto
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Posted - 15/04/2006 :  17:40:29  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
bez lethality ti ty backstaby budou davat dost smesny rany :p
+ ghostly strike i hemo sou s daggerama dost nehratelny :)
jinak +5 dodge je imo uplne k nicemu, chybi ti tam imp gouge

zkratka jestli chces jit takhle daleko subtetly tak doporucuju swordy, na imp bs zkratka neni dost bodu
( jinak murder jsou vyhozeny body ve chvili kdy mas +5 to hit )

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qsubt
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Posted - 15/04/2006 :  17:44:24  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bubak

quote:
Originally posted by qsubt

...


No abych rekl pravdu, tak mit build na pvp s daggerama a nezahrnout do nej Opportunity a Lethality mi prijde jako dost ujety. Plus tam mas jak Ghostly strike tak Hemo, coz nejsou zrovna utoky vhodny pro daggery, rozhodne bych taky pridal imp gouge. A pokud si sezenes gear na kterym bude +5% chance to hit, tak je ti murder nanic. A urcite bych pridal i imp evis, celkove mi ten build prijde dost zmatenej, spis bych si udelal nejakou klasiku, ktera tu uz nekolikrat byla citovana (31/8/12 nebo 21/8/22).



no ono to vlasne nemusi byt dager dager, to byla takova prvotni myslenka, sword + x bude lepsi to bude human a ten ma na ty swordy specializaci:)

ad murder no na nic asi bude ale kdyz se chcu nejak dostat k relentres strike tak tam neco placnout musim, ghostly musim met protoze chcu met setup, a hemo mne prijde jako levny bodovac (35 energy), improved sinister stoji 40. Klasiky co popisujes sou mozna hezke ale ja chcu subltlety 31, a stejne je to zbytecne pokud se s tim dostanu na 60 tak stejne respecnu 10x :)



EDIT2:
"ad jinak +5 dodge je imo uplne k nicemu",::::: naivni myslenka, ale kdyz mam setup, chcu met maximalni dodge k maximalni sanci ziskavani bonus bodu, nebo to tak neni?

Edited by - qsubt on 15/04/2006 17:47:27
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qsubt
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Posted - 15/04/2006 :  18:12:42  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tak sem to upravil, kdyz ne dagger tak logicky ani ne imp backstab

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues/talents.html?20531010000000000050030000000000000054505100003120311

toto mne uz hosani nevymluvite si myslim:) ja ho totiz nechcu jako kiling machinu ale na FUN PVP = tj zabijet "sede" hordaky:))),

s warlockem to z nam z druhe strany = tam je rogue muj nejoblibenejsi souper:) pokud teda nejsou zrovna v presile:P

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Regnak
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Posted - 15/04/2006 :  19:04:48  Show Profile  Send Regnak an ICQ Message Send Regnak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Setup je shit, jinak s tim buildem to nebude funy PvP,ale spis budes rad,kdyz ti sem tam nekdo umre pod nohama, tak na ty sedy lvl by to bylo dobry, jinak na nic...

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qsubt
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Posted - 15/04/2006 :  19:28:13  Show Profile  Send qsubt an ICQ Message Send qsubt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Regnak

Setup je shit, jinak s tim buildem to nebude funy PvP,ale spis budes rad,kdyz ti sem tam nekdo umre pod nohama, tak na ty sedy lvl by to bylo dobry, jinak na nic...



ja si to nemyslim, zaklad je zautocit ze stinu:) a pak uz to muze vypadat nejak takto
"
Hemo > SS
With Initiative+imp CS you can open a fight like so

Cheapshot->Hemo->Hemo (full 5 combo points at this point)....either evis/kidney from here before the CS stun is worn off :)

plus 1.8 normalization did not affect Hemo, slower weapon = better.I did not belive hemo was better at first till I tried it, im not switching specs for a LONG time.Dont knock it till you try it.Hemo is very cheap too energy wise.....stunlocks rule!
"

cheap shot hemo hemo kidney ~ 6s stun
preparation premedation blabla kidney - 5or6s stun (to uz je narocne na pocty), pak pred limitem nejakou tu rupturu nebo evis a vanish/blind, za mom cheap hemo hemo evis/kidney/ruptur neni to funny?:( pravda je ze je to posuzuju asi tak, jako kdyz si african predstavuje jak stavi snehulaka:)



ad setup shit, to fakt neposoudim:( ale mne tak na dalku se to zda gut, X% dodge zaklad, 5% dodge za skil, pak pripadne 15% za ghostly strike, nebo 50% za evasion, neco malo za equip, hmhm, zda se mne to gut,

na druhou stranu mas pravdu, uz nevim co bych, du raci poslat do nebes par nebohych aliancnich rogunu:)

Edited by - qsubt on 15/04/2006 19:38:30
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Araya
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Posted - 15/04/2006 :  20:03:27  Show Profile  Send Araya an ICQ Message Send Araya a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hehe si tu budujes setup na rogue, to hodlas bojovat jen s nima?
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Mefisto
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Posted - 15/04/2006 :  21:05:30  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nemit imp gouge je naprosto nehoraznej gimp, ZVLAST pro subtetly rogua

imp gouge = interrupt kterej ti vyregeni vic energie nez stoji a prida ti 1 cp

setup .. mno muze to bejt sranda ale je to strasne 1) nahodny 2) zamereny jen na urcity typy classu

jinak kdyz uz jdes takhle daleko do subtetly tak bych zauvazoval o tom dat nejaky body do rapid concealment a do imp rupture, na ty 3 body do precision se vyser, jakmile ziskas +5/+6 k hitu ( coz na 60ce bude vcelku rychle(treba trinket z DM dava +2) tak to dost v PvP postrada vyznam

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Edited by - Mefisto on 15/04/2006 21:07:39
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Mark
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Posted - 16/04/2006 :  13:50:11  Show Profile Send Mark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kundihrabka

quote:
Originally posted by Relative
Muzete nekdo uvest nejaky universal build a pak nejaky best primo jen na pvp?



Univerzalni na PvP/PvE muze byt treba seal fate dagger 30(31)/8/13(12)
Nejlepsi na PvP asi hemorrhage 21/3/27, nebo preparation dagger 21/8/22



Hemo je sice supr,ale zalezi strasne na equipu... rogue v shadowcraftu se zbrani z renda je traparna nejvetsi.. stejne tak sem videl nejaky magory,ze jeli hemo s daggerem,coz je taky silena dmc.
Kazdopadne tento build jedu a jsem snim spokojen... S daggerama sem se trapil.. kdyz to necritnulo 60energy vyhozenejch oknem.. nataceni za zada pri horsi latenci je taky peklo.

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Sacrifice
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Posted - 16/04/2006 :  14:01:55  Show Profile  Send Sacrifice an ICQ Message Send Sacrifice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mark se zbrani z renda je traparna nejvetsi..


IMO rend set je jeden z najlepsich blue setov pre hemorogue

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Stanish
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Posted - 16/04/2006 :  14:09:23  Show Profile  Send Stanish an ICQ Message Send Stanish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
co rikate na tenhle build? pripadne jak by jste ho upravili?
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?fhecoxZG0Ez0Vzxco
2x sword
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Sacrifice
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Posted - 16/04/2006 :  14:18:57  Show Profile  Send Sacrifice an ICQ Message Send Sacrifice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stanish

co rikate na tenhle build? pripadne jak by jste ho upravili?
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?fhecoxZG0Ez0Vzxco
2x sword


mozes vymenit AR/6min CD/ za CB/3minCD/
vzdy ked som spustil AR, fear,ovecka,FN a podobne takze som si ho moc neuzil v BG

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Stanish
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Posted - 16/04/2006 :  14:29:25  Show Profile  Send Stanish an ICQ Message Send Stanish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sacrifice

quote:
Originally posted by Stanish

co rikate na tenhle build? pripadne jak by jste ho upravili?
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?fhecoxZG0Ez0Vzxco
2x sword


mozes vymenit AR/6min CD/ za CB/3minCD/
vzdy ked som spustil AR, fear,ovecka,FN a podobne takze som si ho moc neuzil v BG

Promin, moc se omlouvam ale hraju neco pres tyden takze z toho cos mi rekl jsem poznal ze mam neco vymenit za neco(jde mi to ten prvni radek)

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Rebeka
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Originally posted by Sacrifice

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co rikate na tenhle build? pripadne jak by jste ho upravili?
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mozes vymenit AR/6min CD/ za CB/3minCD/
vzdy ked som spustil AR, fear,ovecka,FN a podobne takze som si ho moc neuzil v BG

Promin, moc se omlouvam ale hraju neco pres tyden takze z toho cos mi rekl jsem poznal ze mam neco vymenit za neco(jde mi to ten prvni radek)

(prosim, mohl bys to nejak "prelozit"? Dekuju)



To se dá lehce odvodit, když se podíváš do talentů :) AR=Adrenaline rush a CB=Cold blood
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Setup je shit, jinak s tim buildem to nebude funy PvP,ale spis budes rad,kdyz ti sem tam nekdo umre pod nohama, tak na ty sedy lvl by to bylo dobry, jinak na nic...



ja si to nemyslim, zaklad je zautocit ze stinu:) a pak uz to muze vypadat nejak takto
....



Pokud jdes s hodne body do sublety a chces jet mece, hemo best,ale je na to potreba dobra zbran aby byla dmg, pak kazdyho zabijes prakticky na jeden cheap shot a chudak neudela nic.ale opet je nejlepsi jet overenou vec a to 21/3/27 je a funguje paradne..

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Mark
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Originally posted by Mark se zbrani z renda je traparna nejvetsi..


IMO rend set je jeden z najlepsich blue setov pre hemorogue



To je vec nazoru.. ja se co se tyce equipu pohybuju v trochu jinejch vysinach:)

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Mark
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Originally posted by Regnak

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Originally posted by qsubt

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Originally posted by Regnak

Setup je shit, jinak s tim buildem to nebude funy PvP,ale spis budes rad,kdyz ti sem tam nekdo umre pod nohama, tak na ty sedy lvl by to bylo dobry, jinak na nic...



ja si to nemyslim, zaklad je zautocit ze stinu:) a pak uz to muze vypadat nejak takto
....




Pokud jdes s hodne body do sublety a chces jet mece, hemo best,ale je na to potreba dobra zbran aby byla dmg, pak kazdyho zabijes prakticky na jeden cheap shot a chudak neudela nic.ale opet je nejlepsi jet overenou vec a to 21/3/27 je a funguje paradne..


Na jeden cheap nikoho poradnyho nezabijes:) Kdyz budes mit velky stesti a bude ti to critovat jak blazen,tak cloveka zabijes behem prvniho cheap+5bodovym KS +nakej ten zakoncovaci uder(evis).


Kazdopadne je dobry mit 110energy.. cheap,hemo ,hemo ,CB ->evis.to zabije nakyho clotkaka se slabsima hpckama.

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Edited by - Mark on 16/04/2006 17:45:18
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Originally posted by Mark

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Originally posted by Sacrifice

quote:
Originally posted by Mark se zbrani z renda je traparna nejvetsi..


IMO rend set je jeden z najlepsich blue setov pre hemorogue



To je vec nazoru.. ja se co se tyce equipu pohybuju v trochu jinejch vysinach:)


ORLY?

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Edited by - Sacrifice on 16/04/2006 18:55:02
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Na jeden cheap nikoho poradnyho nezabijes:) Kdyz budes mit velky stesti a bude ti to critovat jak blazen,tak cloveka zabijes behem prvniho cheap+5bodovym KS +nakej ten zakoncovaci uder(evis).



hm, takovy rogue davam bez problemu na jeden stunlock :p

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Originally posted by Rebeka

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Originally posted by Stanish

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Originally posted by Sacrifice

quote:
Originally posted by Stanish

co rikate na tenhle build? pripadne jak by jste ho upravili?
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?fhecoxZG0Ez0Vzxco
2x sword


mozes vymenit AR/6min CD/ za CB/3minCD/
vzdy ked som spustil AR, fear,ovecka,FN a podobne takze som si ho moc neuzil v BG

Promin, moc se omlouvam ale hraju neco pres tyden takze z toho cos mi rekl jsem poznal ze mam neco vymenit za neco(jde mi to ten prvni radek)

(prosim, mohl bys to nejak "prelozit"? Dekuju)



To se dá lehce odvodit, když se podíváš do talentů :) AR=Adrenaline rush a CB=Cold blood

Jo vlastne, diky, ja tam totiz hledal i CD a az ted mi doslo ze to bude asi cooldown :-)
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Regnak
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Na jeden cheap nikoho poradnyho nezabijes:) Kdyz budes mit velky stesti a bude ti to critovat jak blazen,tak cloveka zabijes behem prvniho cheap+5bodovym KS +nakej ten zakoncovaci uder(evis).



hm, takovy rogue davam bez problemu na jeden stunlock :p



Asi tak, samozrejme jsem nemel na mysli jen ten cheap shot,proste dostanes stunlock, ze ktery vylezes az kdyz si bezis pro telo :)

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Mark
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Na jeden cheap nikoho poradnyho nezabijes:) Kdyz budes mit velky stesti a bude ti to critovat jak blazen,tak cloveka zabijes behem prvniho cheap+5bodovym KS +nakej ten zakoncovaci uder(evis).



hm, takovy rogue davam bez problemu na jeden stunlock :p


Tak to davas samy sracky,ktery nemaj aspon 5k hpcek..

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hm, takovy rogue davam bez problemu na jeden stunlock :p


Tak to davas samy sracky,ktery nemaj aspon 5k hpcek..



takovych rogue je hodne malo na DT, mozna bych je i spocital na prstech jedne ruky a verim, ze kdybych mel +60en trinket ze ZG, tak bych i tu hranici 5k hp prolomil, ted behem jednoho stunlocku dam cca 4300 dmg do leatheru

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Little
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Tak to davas samy sracky,ktery nemaj aspon 5k hpcek..


No pokud mas unbuffed 5k+ HP radsi bych nechtel videt tvuj crit a AP :P.

Nemam uplne TOP equip ale imo se se stavajicim dostupnym equipem ve hre neda dost dobre zkombinovat 5k+ HP crit +-30% a AP kolem 1k ale mozna se mylim. Nicmene takoveho roguea sem na DT zatim nepotkal. Pokud meli uchazejici crit kolem 30% AP 900+ tak se pohybovali kolem 4,2k.

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Mno 5000hp maj ti roguove co pochopili ze Hp>all na pvp(v primerenem pomeru).. zbytek je ten co furt nadava ze je warlock da na jeden chainfear

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Mno 5000hp maj ti roguove co pochopili ze Hp>all na pvp(v primerenem pomeru).. zbytek je ten co furt nadava ze je warlock da na jeden chainfear


No asi takhle kdyz sem jel PVP jel sem primarne na staminu, bohuzel s modrym equipem ke kteremu jsem se v te dobe mohl dostat sem se pohyboval kolem 4,2k. Ted se zakladnim epic equipem mam presne 4523 HP, crit 29% unbuffed ale zase AP pokulhava.

Proste si myslim ze rogue s 5k+ HP bude mit moc malou dmg. Kdyz sem si projizdel profily tak sem nasel rogue ktery mel 6k HP ale mel 15% crit a 550 AP.

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Mno 5000hp maj ti roguove co pochopili ze Hp>all na pvp(v primerenem pomeru).. zbytek je ten co furt nadava ze je warlock da na jeden chainfear


No asi takhle kdyz sem jel PVP jel sem primarne na staminu, bohuzel s modrym equipem ke kteremu jsem se v te dobe mohl dostat sem se pohyboval kolem 4,2k. Ted se zakladnim epic equipem mam presne 4523 HP, crit 29% unbuffed ale zase AP pokulhava.

Proste si myslim ze rogue s 5k+ HP bude mit moc malou dmg. Kdyz sem si projizdel profily tak sem nasel rogue ktery mel 6k HP ale mel 15% crit a 550 AP.

Pokud je to warsongský zloděj vlajek ve stylu šlohnout, sprint, boty v tunelu, preparation, sprint, engi boty a capnutá vlajka, tak malý AP a critšance imho ani tolik nevadí. Samozřejmě můžu být vedle jak ten jedla.

Edited by - Rakhen on 18/04/2006 10:13:37
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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-rogue&T=1060754&P=1

:p


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Edited by - Mefisto on 18/04/2006 14:14:37
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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-rogue&T=1060754&P=1

:p


jo .. a AR>CB


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No sem zvedavej jestli to opravej celkem me stve ta prodleva pri vicebodovym gainu CP. Ale o dodge zezadu nejak stale nepisou :P

BTW nevite jestli ztrata stealthu pri resistnutym spellu (treba AE) je WAI?

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Tak to davas samy sracky,ktery nemaj aspon 5k hpcek..


No pokud mas unbuffed 5k+ HP radsi bych nechtel videt tvuj crit a AP :P.

Nemam uplne TOP equip ale imo se se stavajicim dostupnym equipem ve hre neda dost dobre zkombinovat 5k+ HP crit +-30% a AP kolem 1k ale mozna se mylim. Nicmene takoveho roguea sem na DT zatim nepotkal. Pokud meli uchazejici crit kolem 30% AP 900+ tak se pohybovali kolem 4,2k.


5k hp sem prehnal.. ja mam 4800hp 984AP 24,6crit
Nicmene sme se bavili o zabiti rogue behem cheapu a 5bodovym ks.. coz podle me neni mozny...
Ano..v pohode se da zabit skoro kazdej s pomoci cheapu +5bodovy KS,pak blind,stealth ..cheap CB evis.. aniz by dotycnej neco udelal (nicmene nic neni 100% dogde/pary/miss/rezist stun.. vse hraje podstatnou roli. (attack samozrejme pomoci hemo)

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Edited by - Mark on 18/04/2006 15:13:34
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