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Mefisto
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767 Posts

Posted - 18/04/2006 :  16:18:44  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mark

quote:
Originally posted by Little

quote:
Originally posted by Mark
Tak to davas samy sracky,ktery nemaj aspon 5k hpcek..


No pokud mas unbuffed 5k+ HP radsi bych nechtel videt tvuj crit a AP :P.

Nemam uplne TOP equip ale imo se se stavajicim dostupnym equipem ve hre neda dost dobre zkombinovat 5k+ HP crit +-30% a AP kolem 1k ale mozna se mylim. Nicmene takoveho roguea sem na DT zatim nepotkal. Pokud meli uchazejici crit kolem 30% AP 900+ tak se pohybovali kolem 4,2k.


5k hp sem prehnal.. ja mam 4800hp 984AP 24,6crit
Nicmene sme se bavili o zabiti rogue behem cheapu a 5bodovym ks.. coz podle me neni mozny...
Ano..v pohode se da zabit skoro kazdej s pomoci cheapu +5bodovy KS,pak blind,stealth ..cheap CB evis.. aniz by dotycnej neco udelal (nicmene nic neni 100% dogde/pary/miss/rezist stun.. vse hraje podstatnou roli. (attack samozrejme pomoci hemo)


no ono to vcelku jde :) 4k hp behem cs ks s 60 energy trinketem a suprovejma zbranema das ... s trochou stesti
edit : spis 4-4,5k

"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play."

Edited by - Mefisto on 18/04/2006 16:20:20
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 18/04/2006 :  16:24:29  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by beldor5

Mno 5000hp maj ti roguove co pochopili ze Hp>all na pvp(v primerenem pomeru).. zbytek je ten co furt nadava ze je warlock da na jeden chainfear


souhlas
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Shad3
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277 Posts

Posted - 18/04/2006 :  18:28:33  Show Profile  Visit Shad3's Homepage  Send Shad3 an ICQ Message Send Shad3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto
no ono to vcelku jde :) 4k hp behem cs ks s 60 energy trinketem a suprovejma zbranema das ... s trochou stesti
edit : spis 4-4,5k



ja to davam i bez toho trinketu, Deathaak muze vypravet... mit ten trinket, tak jak uz sem psal dam mozna i tech 5k

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Mark
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Posted - 18/04/2006 :  21:49:12  Show Profile Send Mark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shad3

quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto
no ono to vcelku jde :) 4k hp behem cs ks s 60 energy trinketem a suprovejma zbranema das ... s trochou stesti
edit : spis 4-4,5k



ja to davam i bez toho trinketu, Deathaak muze vypravet... mit ten trinket, tak jak uz sem psal dam mozna i tech 5k


Jo,kdyz to zacrituje.. je to o haluzi.. Jo kdyz uz to chce clovek posichrovat tak je supr ten trinket +thistle tea a je to jasna zalezitost.

D2:Mark,Max R.I.P.
UO,Kel,DP Mark,Max R.I.P
W.o.W Maxmilian ,UD Rogue -R.I.P.
AoC -TOS 80-R.I.P.
Warhammer - WE,Shaman ....
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Pharoxx
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Rei-wow

70 Posts

Posted - 20/04/2006 :  01:19:45  Show Profile  Send Pharoxx an ICQ Message Send Pharoxx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mark

5k hp sem prehnal.. ja mam 4800hp 984AP 24,6crit




Hmm profil nemas? Premejslim jaks to vytahnul . Sestavit ap/hp eq aby mel vic jak 21-22% crit pri zachovani aspon 27-28% dodge je docela podle me nemozny, kdyz nemas 12-13r brnko ktery rozumne slozis s raid vecma.

Sam stale tak nejak ladim eq a je to silenej beh na dlouhou vzdalenost Nastesti ale pomalu finishuju 1x ZG a bude enchantik, v pondeli se vymenej impove a bude dokoncenej 60en trinket , dneska sem vyfasoval novou hracku (AQR)... ale jen jedna vec me dela problem....boty , Shadow Flamy nepadly ani jednou (/cry), BF nejak padnou nechtej (krome ap/hp setu mam uz 7/8bf) a nejak jiny rozumny boty nejsou (ty dr00d shity z aq me nejak nerajcujou).

2mefisto/mark: naklikejte nejaky vase navrhy optimalnich eq http://rogueequip.azzor.com/

Dodatek:
U rogue eq vidim jednen problem. Udelat set co bude mit 950-1000+ ap a soucasne aspon 4700hp+ nejde moc dobre udelat bez ztraty crit/dodge (vetsinou crit klesne na 21-22% a dodge 25-27%). Zkuste si kdyztak na vyse uvedenym webu neco vytvorit...pokud mozno bez pouziti 12-13r brnka a bez 14r zbrani, prece jen to neni moc realny pro bezny lidi. Jo a omezte i legy/chest z DD setu :D

World of Warcraft:
Pharris <Motion>, 70lvl shaman @ Drak'Thul EU
Pharoxx <Motion>, 70lvl rogue @ Drak'Thul EU

Age of Conan:
Pharra <Dawn>, 80lvl, Stygian Tempest of Set @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
Pharris <Dawn>, 22+lvl, Cimmerian Bear Shaman @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
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Ethir
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Posted - 20/04/2006 :  01:48:39  Show Profile  Send Ethir an ICQ Message Send Ethir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://rogueequip.azzor.com/viewtemplate.php?tempid=28410

Bral sem equip, kterej je vicemene realny v soucasny dobe ziskat (par veci tam nemaj, a hodili by se tam vic). Bez AQ equipu takovy staty nenazenes...


[WoW] Ethir <Zdechliny>, Frozen Rogue
[EQ] Ethir <MdK>, Frozen Ranger
[EQ2] Ethirea <MdK>, Frozen Troubador
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Mefisto
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767 Posts

Posted - 20/04/2006 :  03:27:20  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
cca takhle
http://rogueequip.azzor.com/viewtemplate.php?tempid=28415

ale chybi tam spousta dulezitejch veci ... treba enchant na rukavice +15 agi, pugia, a gloves of enforcement

"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play."
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kundihrabka
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126 Posts

Posted - 20/04/2006 :  09:29:31  Show Profile Send kundihrabka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ethir

http://rogueequip.azzor.com/viewtemplate.php?tempid=28410

Bral sem equip, kterej je vicemene realny v soucasny dobe ziskat (par veci tam nemaj, a hodili by se tam vic). Bez AQ equipu takovy staty nenazenes...


http://rogueequip.azzor.com/ je sracka. Tedy v tom smyslu, ze tam nemaji vsechno.
Lepsi je udelat profil na http://ctprofiles.net/ a tam se muzes vyradit.
No, ted zpet k tematu. Cca ty pozadavky, ktere psal Mark je realne udelat z veci, ktere muzes ziskat, abys vubec nenavstivil AQ, ale jen ZG/MC/BWL.
http://ctprofiles.net/239752
Skoc do view alternate profiles tam dole a najdes tam profil social.
4,8k life
970 AP
25% crit
34% dodge

a samozrejme
- 110 energy bez vigoru
- energy trinket ze ZG

To, ze Buh nikdy nebyl neznamena, ze neni treba se Ho zbavit.
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Pharoxx
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Posted - 20/04/2006 :  10:58:40  Show Profile  Send Pharoxx an ICQ Message Send Pharoxx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
2mefisto: sem na ty strance chvilku nebyl a nejak zapomnel ze jim tak par veci chybi. Nejak se o ni prestaly starat :( Nevim ale proc ti tam chybej Gloves of Enforcement, me to prijde jak crap vhodnej jen pro dr00dy. Doomhide sou imho lepsi , mozna uz bych radsi nosil BF rukavice nez tohle.

Jak sem se dival na to co ste postnuli tak sem dosel k zaveru, ze na pvp eq kde se clovek snazi nahnat hp, je Archimtiros' Ring of Reckoning asi opravdu jediny reseni kdyz neni dostupnej 12-13r :)

2kundihrabka: zkusim nejak zprovoznit CTprofile

World of Warcraft:
Pharris <Motion>, 70lvl shaman @ Drak'Thul EU
Pharoxx <Motion>, 70lvl rogue @ Drak'Thul EU

Age of Conan:
Pharra <Dawn>, 80lvl, Stygian Tempest of Set @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
Pharris <Dawn>, 22+lvl, Cimmerian Bear Shaman @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
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Mefisto
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767 Posts

Posted - 20/04/2006 :  15:07:58  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kundihrabka

quote:
Originally posted by Ethir

http://rogueequip.azzor.com/viewtemplate.php?tempid=28410

Bral sem equip, kterej je vicemene realny v soucasny dobe ziskat (par veci tam nemaj, a hodili by se tam vic). Bez AQ equipu takovy staty nenazenes...


http://rogueequip.azzor.com/ je sracka. Tedy v tom smyslu, ze tam nemaji vsechno.
Lepsi je udelat profil na http://ctprofiles.net/ a tam se muzes vyradit.
No, ted zpet k tematu. Cca ty pozadavky, ktere psal Mark je realne udelat z veci, ktere muzes ziskat, abys vubec nenavstivil AQ, ale jen ZG/MC/BWL.
http://ctprofiles.net/239752
Skoc do view alternate profiles tam dole a najdes tam profil social.
4,8k life
970 AP
25% crit
34% dodge

a samozrejme
- 110 energy bez vigoru
- energy trinket ze ZG



dekuju ale s +3 hit hrat nehodlam ... :p
+6 minimalne
jinak gloves of enforcement jsou best dps rukavice ve hre
48 ap
0.7 crit
1.3 dodge
+1 chance to hit

doomhidy ti davaj
56 ap
0.5 crit
1 dodge

+ u me jako u hordaka nonorca je to vcelku fuk ale mam tkaovej pocit ze pure +ap nebenefituje z bok/bloodfury
( to ze ty enforcementy stojej daleko vic z hlediska itembodu je jen trapne jdetail :p )

"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play."

Edited by - Mefisto on 20/04/2006 15:12:30
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kundihrabka
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Posted - 20/04/2006 :  16:08:28  Show Profile Send kundihrabka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto
dekuju ale s +3 hit hrat nehodlam ... :p
+6 minimalne
jinak gloves of enforcement jsou best dps rukavice ve hre
48 ap
0.7 crit
1.3 dodge
+1 chance to hit

doomhidy ti davaj
56 ap
0.5 crit
1 dodge

+ u me jako u hordaka nonorca je to vcelku fuk ale mam tkaovej pocit ze pure +ap nebenefituje z bok/bloodfury
( to ze ty enforcementy stojej daleko vic z hlediska itembodu je jen trapne jdetail :p )


Krom toho, ze tam neni +3% hit, ale +4% (DFT 2%,NS ruce 1%,ring 1%), tak nevidim zadny problem, proc bys nemohl prohodit neck ze ZG za neck, ktery je za hlavu onyxie a hned mas +5%, coz neni tak hrozne.
zapominas, ze to je delane pomoci non AQ veci, kde ty chybejici 2% nazenes za DD helmu a treba ten back ze Skerama

To, ze Buh nikdy nebyl neznamena, ze neni treba se Ho zbavit.
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Mark
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Posted - 20/04/2006 :  17:12:54  Show Profile Send Mark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kundihrabka

quote:
Originally posted by Ethir

http://rogueequip.azzor.com/viewtemplate.php?tempid=28410

Bral sem equip, kterej je vicemene realny v soucasny dobe ziskat (par veci tam nemaj, a hodili by se tam vic). Bez AQ equipu takovy staty nenazenes...


http://rogueequip.azzor.com/ je sracka. Tedy v tom smyslu, ze tam nemaji vsechno.
Lepsi je udelat profil na http://ctprofiles.net/ a tam se muzes vyradit.
No, ted zpet k tematu. Cca ty pozadavky, ktere psal Mark je realne udelat z veci, ktere muzes ziskat, abys vubec nenavstivil AQ, ale jen ZG/MC/BWL.
http://ctprofiles.net/239752
Skoc do view alternate profiles tam dole a najdes tam profil social.
4,8k life
970 AP
25% crit
34% dodge

a samozrejme
- 110 energy bez vigoru
- energy trinket ze ZG



Profil nemam..udelam..
Kazdopadne mam neck,ring(druhej za palici z nefa) z AQ40 jedu hodne ap vyhavu,takze dogde mam dost slaby. Energy trinket nemam (i kdyz bych chtel.. sem holt linej chodit do ZG) mimo to mam ap trinket.
Ostatni vybava je poskladana z MC/BWL/AQ 40 set veci (+ veci s ohledem na AP a crit)

D2:Mark,Max R.I.P.
UO,Kel,DP Mark,Max R.I.P
W.o.W Maxmilian ,UD Rogue -R.I.P.
AoC -TOS 80-R.I.P.
Warhammer - WE,Shaman ....

Edited by - Mark on 20/04/2006 17:20:13
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mINo
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Posted - 21/04/2006 :  18:40:58  Show Profile Send mINo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hlavne nikto zvas tam nedal http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21602 co su realne ziskatelne+najlepsie bracery v hre :) a ked uz AP+HP tak http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21680 tiez sa da ziskat.

http://ctprofiles.net/2114079

Edited by - mINo on 21/04/2006 18:46:51
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Shad3
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Posted - 21/04/2006 :  19:08:49  Show Profile  Visit Shad3's Homepage  Send Shad3 an ICQ Message Send Shad3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mINo

hlavne nikto zvas tam nedal http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21602 co su realne ziskatelne+najlepsie bracery v hre :) a ked uz AP+HP tak http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21680 tiez sa da ziskat.



ten chest nevim zrovna jestli je realnej... Kri :>

Trance addicted <3
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Pharoxx
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Rei-wow

70 Posts

Posted - 22/04/2006 :  01:13:49  Show Profile  Send Pharoxx an ICQ Message Send Pharoxx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:


[quote]Originally posted by mINo

hlavne nikto zvas tam nedal http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21602 co su realne ziskatelne+najlepsie bracery v hre :) a ked uz AP+HP tak http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21680 tiez sa da ziskat.




Hmm ty pracery me nejak unikly, docela luxusni

Ale ten chest....ze se da realne ziskat? Raid co dokaze udrzet Kriho do konce, bude mit muj obdiv

World of Warcraft:
Pharris <Motion>, 70lvl shaman @ Drak'Thul EU
Pharoxx <Motion>, 70lvl rogue @ Drak'Thul EU

Age of Conan:
Pharra <Dawn>, 80lvl, Stygian Tempest of Set @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
Pharris <Dawn>, 22+lvl, Cimmerian Bear Shaman @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
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beldor5
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Posted - 23/04/2006 :  11:25:08  Show Profile  Send beldor5 an ICQ Message Send beldor5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A kdyz uz to dropne tak vam to vyzere nejakej druid

.....
http://volby.kategorie.cz/
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Murro
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Posted - 24/04/2006 :  12:05:03  Show Profile  Send Murro an ICQ Message Send Murro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pharoxx

quote:


[quote]Originally posted by mINo

hlavne nikto zvas tam nedal http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21602 co su realne ziskatelne+najlepsie bracery v hre :) a ked uz AP+HP tak http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21680 tiez sa da ziskat.




Hmm ty pracery me nejak unikly, docela luxusni

Ale ten chest....ze se da realne ziskat? Raid co dokaze udrzet Kriho do konce, bude mit muj obdiv


uz neni co trenit, preco nie kriho ;)
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Hint
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Posted - 28/04/2006 :  14:03:08  Show Profile Send Hint a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zdravim chtel bych se zeptat vas profiku na nejaky build rogueho chtel bych pouzivat dyku a sword pls poradte ja si myslel neco takoveho ale nevim jak jinak v assassination http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?fhe0oE0oZZV0EohcRc
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Pharoxx
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Posted - 28/04/2006 :  14:55:10  Show Profile  Send Pharoxx an ICQ Message Send Pharoxx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hint

Zdravim chtel bych se zeptat vas profiku na nejaky build rogueho chtel bych pouzivat dyku a sword pls poradte ja si myslel neco takoveho ale nevim jak jinak v assassination http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?fhe0oE0oZZV0EohcRc



No, ja bych k tomu ze svyho pohledu mel par pripominek:

1) Trosku imo nepouzitelny build.

2) Rozhodni se jestli daggers nebo sword/mace/fist, efektivne kombinovat vse nejde.

3) V tom buildu co uvadis to vypada tak, ze: dagger pouzijes jen na ambush, ale pak sice muzes prehodit do MH sword (myslim ze to vyvola uz 1s global cd) bohuzel Sinister Strike budes mit moc drahej.

4) Talent Setup je pouzitelnej jen proti jinymu roguovi (mozna jeste kdyz mas slusnou vybavu, tak proti warrovi...mozna), jinak totalni mrhani bodu. Rozhodne se najdou efektivnejsi talenty pro tvoje body. Ghostly strike podle me taky kravina za moc energy.

5) Talent Vile Poisons je podle me trosku waste, abys dolez az na Cold blood tak tam mas daleko lepsi varianty. Nerikam, ze Vile poisons je totalne k ho..., ale spis ciste pve talent. Na pvp dam vzdy na MH radsi cripla, a vlastne i na off pro jistotu. Nemuzu si pomoct, ale Instant poison (i s BF bonusem) me z offu (core hound) procuje silene malo.


World of Warcraft:
Pharris <Motion>, 70lvl shaman @ Drak'Thul EU
Pharoxx <Motion>, 70lvl rogue @ Drak'Thul EU

Age of Conan:
Pharra <Dawn>, 80lvl, Stygian Tempest of Set @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
Pharris <Dawn>, 22+lvl, Cimmerian Bear Shaman @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
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Eagle
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Posted - 28/04/2006 :  15:49:01  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?f0xZhbEz0mZVxV0zIR0o
asi ne? co :)
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?w0xZhhy00VZVxV0crR0o

UO, SWG, WoW, EVE, DF, LoL

Edited by - Eagle on 02/06/2006 13:56:31
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Pharoxx
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Posted - 28/04/2006 :  16:29:18  Show Profile  Send Pharoxx an ICQ Message Send Pharoxx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eagle

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?f0xZhbEz0mZVxV0zIR0o
asi ne? co :)



o_O

Rek bych, ze asi urcite ne-e

World of Warcraft:
Pharris <Motion>, 70lvl shaman @ Drak'Thul EU
Pharoxx <Motion>, 70lvl rogue @ Drak'Thul EU

Age of Conan:
Pharra <Dawn>, 80lvl, Stygian Tempest of Set @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
Pharris <Dawn>, 22+lvl, Cimmerian Bear Shaman @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
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Mefisto
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Posted - 28/04/2006 :  18:05:14  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eagle

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?f0xZhbEz0mZVxV0zIR0o
asi ne? co :)



mno ono to tak strasny neni

jedinej vyraznej problem s takovymhle buildem = no relentless strikes
relentless strikes je velice dulezitej talent, takovy must have imo

lethality zas takovy terno neni
facha to jen na specky a kdyz das crit sinisterem bez lethality za 750 tak lethality ti prida nakejch 110 dmg a kdyz clovek vezme v potaz ze crit je 1/3(a to pridavam) uderu tak v celkovym souctu ti to prida do kazdyho uderu cca jen nakejch 20-40 dmg coz fakt neni nic tak extra

me to neprijde zas az tak strasnej build, ale je ... no jak to rict, na cookie cuttery to nema

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Mefisto
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Posted - 28/04/2006 :  18:08:31  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by beldor5

A kdyz uz to dropne tak vam to vyzere nejakej druid


to se deje jen u debilne udelanejch systemu jako je treba ten zdechlinackej :p

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Pharoxx
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Posted - 28/04/2006 :  18:16:21  Show Profile  Send Pharoxx an ICQ Message Send Pharoxx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto

quote:
Originally posted by beldor5

A kdyz uz to dropne tak vam to vyzere nejakej druid


to se deje jen u debilne udelanejch systemu jako je treba ten zdechlinackej :p



nezapomen na motionackej

World of Warcraft:
Pharris <Motion>, 70lvl shaman @ Drak'Thul EU
Pharoxx <Motion>, 70lvl rogue @ Drak'Thul EU

Age of Conan:
Pharra <Dawn>, 80lvl, Stygian Tempest of Set @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
Pharris <Dawn>, 22+lvl, Cimmerian Bear Shaman @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
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Pharoxx
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Posted - 20/05/2006 :  15:12:21  Show Profile  Send Pharoxx an ICQ Message Send Pharoxx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm tak se zacinam trosku desit smeru kam smeruje rogue.
V jeden moment otviram sampano kdyz vidim ze predelali multi shot, takze ze stealthu nebude vyhazovat a pak si prectu o imo celkem brutalnim nerfu AQ setovejch ramen.

Zatim to vypada verohodne, overeno udajne na US test realmech:

Before 1.11
Deathdealer's Spaulders
Binds when picked up
Shoulder Leather
172 Armor
+18 Strength
+27 Agility
+25 Stamina
Classes: Rogue
Durability 70 / 70
Requires Level 60
Equip: Improves your chance to hit by 1%.

Deathdealer's Spaulders
Binds when picked up
Shoulder Leather
172 Armor
+18 Strength
+27 Agility
+15 Stamina
Classes: Rogue
Durability 70 / 70
Requires Level 60
Equip: Improves your chance to hit by 1%.
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pro zajimavost:
Nightslayer Shoulder Pads
26 Agility
3 Strength
12 Stamina
7 Shadow Resistance
1% Hit

takze z NS na DD je to : +16 AP, +3 Stamina, +0.03% Crit upgrade.

Co bude dal? Rogue ma asi stale moc hp jak tak koukam, musime klesnout na 4k aby ostatni byli spokojeny?

World of Warcraft:
Pharris <Motion>, 70lvl shaman @ Drak'Thul EU
Pharoxx <Motion>, 70lvl rogue @ Drak'Thul EU

Age of Conan:
Pharra <Dawn>, 80lvl, Stygian Tempest of Set @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
Pharris <Dawn>, 22+lvl, Cimmerian Bear Shaman @ Wildsoul EU (PvP)
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Stanish
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http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?ihebkx0oZGcZVoEoh0k
co na to rikate? asi by to chtelo nejake zmeny v subtlety(imp sap mi pripada zbytecny, ale v tom "normalnim" buildu vzdycky je)
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daruma
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  15:49:40  Show Profile Send daruma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stanish

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?ihebkx0oZGcZVoEoh0k
co na to rikate? asi by to chtelo nejake zmeny v subtlety(imp sap mi pripada zbytecny, ale v tom "normalnim" buildu vzdycky je)



no co klasicka 21/8/22 akorát bych si vyhodil expose armor a ghostly strike. improve sap je super věc, ale záleží co chcceš hrát - end-game instance, PvE, PvP.
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  16:11:26  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
imp. sap si hodne oblibis v soucasnym PvP
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Mefisto
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  17:04:19  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stanish

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?ihebkx0oZGcZVoEoh0k
co na to rikate? asi by to chtelo nejake zmeny v subtlety(imp sap mi pripada zbytecny, ale v tom "normalnim" buildu vzdycky je)


zrus murder a dej dalsi 2 body do imp expose .. je to imba

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Eagle
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  17:20:38  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sem uz sem dlouho nepostoval :) tak se taky zucastnim

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?ihedox0oZhZVxV0zIRoo

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Eagle
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  17:30:19  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no a nebo treba tohle :)

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?w0efoZGbEzhV0x0o0x

ale asi to bude tim ze rogua nehraju :)

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MegaDeath
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imp. distract jsem teda jeste nikde nevidel... jinak ty buildy v jadru jsou standartni pro non-daggers, oba jsou dobry (az na par malickosti jako je treba ten distract), kazdej jinym zpusobem
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Eagle
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  18:22:19  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

imp. distract jsem teda jeste nikde nevidel... jinak ty buildy v jadru jsou standartni pro non-daggers, oba jsou dobry (az na par malickosti jako je treba ten distract), kazdej jinym zpusobem

ten sem tam dal schvalne ... protoze nevim kam s tim bodem aby byl nejlip vyuzitej :)

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Eagle
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Posted - 02/06/2006 :  13:46:44  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
poradi mi nekdo jestli je lepsi premediatation nebo malice?
na co a proc :)

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Edited by - Eagle on 02/06/2006 13:57:06
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MegaDeath
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premed je useless, ale zkus si to, zjistis to vcelku rychle :)
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Eagle
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http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?f0xbZhbEz0MZVxV0zIR0o

zvlastni ja vim :)

premejslim kde budou lepsi body - v murder+riposte nebo v dual wield specializaci ?

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Sacrifice
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Posted - 02/06/2006 :  16:24:07  Show Profile  Send Sacrifice an ICQ Message Send Sacrifice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eagle

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?f0xbZhbEz0MZVxV0zIR0o

zvlastni ja vim :)

premejslim kde budou lepsi body - v murder+riposte nebo v dual wield specializaci ?


hral si niekedy rogue ? uz mas +5%na hit z talentov,+ 6% mas z equipu... takze murder je co ? uselles. ale to predsa vies
+1

edit:
quote:
Originally posted by Eagle
ale asi to bude tim ze rogua nehraju :)


preco tu vlastne postujes tie nezmyselne buildy potom

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Edited by - Sacrifice on 02/06/2006 16:33:09
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Posted - 02/06/2006 :  19:35:49  Show Profile  Send JerzeeG an ICQ Message Send JerzeeG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sacrifice

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle
ale asi to bude tim ze rogua nehraju :)


preco tu vlastne postujes tie nezmyselne buildy potom


ty se ptas ? tak si projdi okolni topicy a posty pana Vorla a pochopis..

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quote:
Originally posted by JerzeeG

quote:
Originally posted by Sacrifice

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle
ale asi to bude tim ze rogua nehraju :)


preco tu vlastne postujes tie nezmyselne buildy potom


ty se ptas ? tak si projdi okolni topicy a posty pana Vorla a pochopis..




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mischu
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malej dotaz kdopak mě naučí poison ?
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MegaDeath
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quote:
Originally posted by mischu

malej dotaz kdopak mě naučí poison ?


je na to quest ktery ma obtiznost lvl26 a zacina na lvl20, vetsinou te tam posle rogue trainer z mesta
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mischu
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

quote:
Originally posted by mischu

malej dotaz kdopak mě naučí poison ?


je na to quest ktery ma obtiznost lvl26 a zacina na lvl20, vetsinou te tam posle rogue trainer z mesta


dík
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Koron
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da se v boji pouzit stealth?
takhle
improved gouge 5.5s nasledovane stealth?

pomuze tomu rapid concealment? -5s cooldown na stealth

Edited by - Koron on 06/06/2006 12:28:32
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plussminuss
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jo da :) stunlock ftw kdyz je klika
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l0bos
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A bacha na magy, pri prvnim stunu (ne gouge) da blink a v pripade, ze nemas cd na blind a nezmacknes to v stejny chvili jako on, tak nasleduje vetsinou smrt

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Little
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Posted - 06/06/2006 :  14:45:42  Show Profile  Send Little an ICQ Message Send Little a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by l0bos

A bacha na magy, pri prvnim stunu (ne gouge) da blink a v pripade, ze nemas cd na blind a nezmacknes to v stejny chvili jako on, tak nasleduje vetsinou smrt


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Koron
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quote:
Originally posted by l0bos

A bacha na magy, pri prvnim stunu (ne gouge) da blink a v pripade, ze nemas cd na blind a nezmacknes to v stejny chvili jako on, tak nasleduje vetsinou smrt

ja jsem mag :)
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Koron
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Posted - 06/06/2006 :  14:51:59  Show Profile Send Koron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
me spis zajimalo jestli je k necemu ten skill rapid concealment ... nebo to jde i bez toho (10s je dlouha doba )
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Little
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quote:
Originally posted by Koron

me spis zajimalo jestli je k necemu ten skill rapid concealment ... nebo to jde i bez toho (10s je dlouha doba )


Ten se ti vyplati treba v AV kdyz nekoho ganknes behem par vterin a potrebujes se rychle stealthnout bez vanishe protoze ti dobiha teprve CD.

Jinak na 1vs1 to nijak vyrazne nepotrebujes. Aspon ja nemam potrebu se behem 10sec co zacal fight restealthovat. Ale zalezi na kazdeho zpusobu fightu. Nicmene ti stejne behem te doby na rozumny combo gain / dmg output nevyjde energie :).

Jinak samozrejme CD ti dojizdi jakmile se odstealthnes takze 10 po odhidnuti se muzes, pokud si OOC, opet stealthnout.

A ano, pres improve gouge se v PVP da restealthnout, v PVE to nelze.

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rapid concealment ftw... nedokazu si to uz bez nej pomalu predstavit

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