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brutus
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Posted - 03/06/2005 :  13:04:15  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jelikoz uz pomerne hodne lidi raiduje tak by mne zajimalo:

1) Ktere classy jsou na high raidech nejvice zadane?
2) Ktere jsou nedostatkove?

(Nejde o stejnou otazku - nedostatkovej muze byt class co je potreba na raid jeden, protoze ho proste nehraje nikdo... ;))

Jde mne o to, ze jelikoz mne zacal EQ zase bavit tak je i docela mozne, ze budu mit lev 50 char - a otazka zni jakej.
Ted jsem se vratil ke svemu Templari (lev25) a pocitam ze healer se vzdycky hodi - ale dival jsem se na rostery cz guild a Templaru je tam hafo - na druhou stranu nektere classy se tam nevyskytujou vubec...

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Posted - 03/06/2005 :  13:15:13  Show Profile  Send Pedro an ICQ Message Send Pedro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Obecne je nedostatek support clasu - bufferi a debufferi (trubaduri, defileri, wardeni, coeceri....) Muzes mit sebevic dps clasu nebo healeru, ale bez resistu a ostatnich buffu to proste nejde moc efektivne.

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Pertha
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Posted - 03/06/2005 :  14:13:49  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
momentalne co je nejvic znat jsou buferi na poison resist
tj dirge a warlock

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Bambi
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Posted - 03/06/2005 :  14:58:22  Show Profile  Send Bambi an ICQ Message Send Bambi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pedro

Obecne je nedostatek support clasu - bufferi a debufferi (trubaduri, defileri, wardeni, coeceri....) Muzes mit sebevic dps clasu nebo healeru, ale bez resistu a ostatnich buffu to proste nejde moc efektivne.


Troubadora z vlastni zkusenosti silne nedoporucuju. Je to sice, mezi zkusenymi hraci, hodne cenena postava (pro svoje buffy), ale za soucasneho stavu je to tezka nuda.

Miziva variabilita buffu, protoze 1/2 jich bud nefunguje nebo je naprosto zbytecna a druha 1/2 staci tak na zaplacnuti concentration pointu. Mala variabilita utoku, 1x utok ze stealthu (nefunguje behem boje), 1x utok zezadu (10sec timer), 2x normalni utok s DoTem/Debuffem (nestackuje se s jinym troubadorem, takze pokud ho pouzil pred tebou tak mas smulu a utok nefunguje, ani normalni dmg), 2x utocny kouzlo (3sec cast a dost spatnej pomer dmg/power).

Jediny co na raidu stoji za rec (krome buffu, ktery ale funguji nonstop, takze se o ne nemusis starat) je sani many a pak jeste pretahovani se s jinym troubadorem o 2 ze 3 svych utocnych abilit. Kdyz mas zrovna smulu a netrefis se, tak koncis s jednim utokem zezadu na 10sec timeru a autofightem. Proti epic mobum, ktery jsou dost casto imunni vuci melee fakt zabava .

EDIT: typo

Edited by - Bambi on 03/06/2005 16:02:54
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Jaris
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Posted - 03/06/2005 :  17:12:22  Show Profile  Send Jaris an ICQ Message Send Jaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No spravny raid ma presne 1 char od kazdeho klasu ...

4 typy po 6 druzich je 24.

Takovy raid samozrejme nesestavis, i kdyz z hlediska variability mas vse a muzes kombinovat dle situace.

Jinak dnes se mi zda, ze mame nedostatek non-reaktiv healeru a pak opravdu buferu na nektere situace - chybi uplne dirge nebo Q enchanter, nemame ani rangera nebo monka

JInak EQ2 je staveno prave zcela jinak nez EQ1 z hlediska raidu a nelze najit idealni sestavu (prave diky variabilite).


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Eskel
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Posted - 04/06/2005 :  09:46:19  Show Profile  Send Eskel an ICQ Message Send Eskel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pertha

momentalne co je nejvic znat jsou buferi na poison resist
tj dirge a warlock



Mraven se nasral na asasina a hraje ted DIRGE. Mame perma trojici (dirge, zerk, warden), takze to jde celkem rychle :)

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brutus
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Posted - 09/06/2005 :  20:24:11  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja bych pozmenil otazku ;) Napiste tady prosim 3 , podle vas, nejmene hrane classy ve hre ;) Dik

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Posted - 09/06/2005 :  20:34:39  Show Profile  Send Jaris an ICQ Message Send Jaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brutus

Ja bych pozmenil otazku ;) Napiste tady prosim 3 , podle vas, nejmene hrane classy ve hre ;) Dik



Ja to rozsirim na nejmene hrane subclassy z archetypu

Coercer/Iluzionist z magu
Monk z tanku
Scoutu je vubec malo, ale treba Rangera u cechu neznam
Samani u priestu


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Eskel
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Posted - 09/06/2005 :  21:22:15  Show Profile  Send Eskel an ICQ Message Send Eskel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jaris

quote:
Originally posted by brutus

Ja bych pozmenil otazku ;) Napiste tady prosim 3 , podle vas, nejmene hrane classy ve hre ;) Dik



Ja to rozsirim na nejmene hrane subclassy z archetypu

Coercer/Iluzionist z magu
Monk z tanku
Scoutu je vubec malo, ale treba Rangera u cechu neznam
Samani u priestu





Ja treba swashbucklera snad vubec na vysokym levelu nepotkal.
Potom jsem nevidel monka.
A Illusionistu, coerceru je rozhodne vic.

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Pertha
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Posted - 09/06/2005 :  21:30:34  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
swash i ranger byli na minulym raidu

ale ilusionistu neznam zadnyho

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Genagen
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Posted - 09/06/2005 :  22:44:24  Show Profile  Visit Genagen's Homepage  Send Genagen an ICQ Message Send Genagen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ale ilusionistu neznam zadnyho

Kerothar od nas. Je to docela hukot, kdyz je v groupe corecer+ilusionista.

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brutus
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Posted - 10/06/2005 :  11:08:15  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tak jsem si vcera vecer a dneska rano vyjizdel povolani a mimo to, ze mne prekvapilo jak strasne malo lidi je online (je fakt ze vcera to bylo po tom co nahodili server a dneska rano to bylo v 9 - ale stejne...) tak nejmene hrany class je jednoznacne Bruiser - online jich bylo 0-7, pak jsou pomerne malo hrane scout classy obecne, Monk na tom nebyl spatne 9-17. Nejvice hrany je Paladin, Guardian, Templar, Berserk, Wizard - tech bylo vzdycky 20-30+

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Edited by - brutus on 10/06/2005 11:11:55
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Pedro
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Posted - 10/06/2005 :  11:31:31  Show Profile  Send Pedro an ICQ Message Send Pedro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brutus
... tak nejmene hrany class je jednoznacne Bruiser - online jich bylo 0-7, .



Njn kdo by je taky hral, kdyz jsou to takovi gimpi...
Ale ted vazne... lidi nevi co muzou cekat od charu co se jmenuje bruiser a tak jedou obecne zazite nazvy charu. No a jelikoz vychazi z brawleru a muze byt pouze evil (za ne hraje mene lidi nez za goodaky) tak je jasne ze je to malo voleny char.

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Kwah
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Posted - 10/06/2005 :  11:41:57  Show Profile  Send Kwah an ICQ Message Send Kwah a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no, ja sem zatim vyzbrojoval 4 bruisery a to sem este prisel o kseft bo sem nebyl v dobe zavedeni imbued veci 49. navic vsechny velke guildy maji vlastniho WS
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brutus
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Posted - 11/06/2005 :  09:43:44  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tak vcera jsem v peek time (cca v 11 vecer patek) projel vsechny classy:

Guard 80
Zerk 50
Monk 38
Bruis 4
SK 32
Pal 95

Temp 86
Inq 29
Ward 34
Fury 34
Myst 28
Defi 17

Wiz 85
Warl 34
Ilus 3
Coe 14
Conj 37
Nec 32

Swas 24
Brig 8
Troub 14
Dirge 14
Rang 37
Ass 13

;)

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Posted - 11/06/2005 :  13:58:45  Show Profile  Visit Kurik's Homepage  Send Kurik an ICQ Message Send Kurik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
je videt, jak malo liid hraje ve freeportu
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Posted - 11/06/2005 :  14:07:45  Show Profile  Send Eskel an ICQ Message Send Eskel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kurik

je videt, jak malo liid hraje ve freeportu



No jo. 24 swashu ku 8 brigandum a to je brigand minimalne 2x silnejsi

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Posted - 11/06/2005 :  14:19:03  Show Profile  Visit Kurik's Homepage  Send Kurik an ICQ Message Send Kurik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
spatny srovnani, podivej se na inquisitory a templare.... vlastne en, oboji je jedna ku trem... bodejt by pak queynosaci nemeli pocit, ze je dost adeptu :)

Edited by - Kurik on 11/06/2005 14:19:59
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Posted - 11/06/2005 :  15:38:11  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kurik

spatny srovnani, podivej se na inquisitory a templare.... vlastne en, oboji je jedna ku trem... bodejt by pak queynosaci nemeli pocit, ze je dost adeptu :)



to nechapu? spis snad naopak ne?

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Posted - 11/06/2005 :  16:52:41  Show Profile  Visit Kurik's Homepage  Send Kurik an ICQ Message Send Kurik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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to nechapu? spis snad naopak ne?


nene, za queyjnos hraje cca 3x vic lidi, tedy 3x vic lidi naleza adepty... na cernem trhu pak muze byt vic veci pro freeportany, alepraxe ukazuje ze trh v queynosu opravdu funguje trochu lepe, vidim to na postave zabaka.
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Posted - 11/06/2005 :  17:36:24  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kurik

quote:
Originally posted by brutus
to nechapu? spis snad naopak ne?


nene, za queyjnos hraje cca 3x vic lidi, tedy 3x vic lidi naleza adepty... na cernem trhu pak muze byt vic veci pro freeportany, alepraxe ukazuje ze trh v queynosu opravdu funguje trochu lepe, vidim to na postave zabaka.



no podle tehle teorie by lide z Q nachazeli jen Adepty pro Q povolani a naopak ;) Ale ono to tak neni.

Jinak tvuj zabak je cca lev 17? Takze pouziva Adepty co jsou spolecne pro vsechny ;)

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Posted - 11/06/2005 :  19:06:33  Show Profile  Send Eskel an ICQ Message Send Eskel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brutus

quote:
Originally posted by Kurik

quote:
Originally posted by brutus
to nechapu? spis snad naopak ne?


nene, za queyjnos hraje cca 3x vic lidi, tedy 3x vic lidi naleza adepty... na cernem trhu pak muze byt vic veci pro freeportany, alepraxe ukazuje ze trh v queynosu opravdu funguje trochu lepe, vidim to na postave zabaka.



no podle tehle teorie by lide z Q nachazeli jen Adepty pro Q povolani a naopak ;) Ale ono to tak neni.

Jinak tvuj zabak je cca lev 17? Takze pouziva Adepty co jsou spolecne pro vsechny ;)



lol

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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  10:12:35  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mam dalsi otazku ;) Opet na high end raid - na ofiko forech dost lidi breci, ze Avoidance je na epic moby uplne na nic, protoze ji proste ignoruji a jediny co ma smysl je Mitigation - co je na tom pravdy?

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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  13:25:54  Show Profile  Send Jaris an ICQ Message Send Jaris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brutus

Mam dalsi otazku ;) Opet na high end raid - na ofiko forech dost lidi breci, ze Avoidance je na epic moby uplne na nic, protoze ji proste ignoruji a jediny co ma smysl je Mitigation - co je na tom pravdy?



To je tezko rict, raid mob je level tak 54 a jeste ^^^. Pak se nemuzes divit, ze trefuje casto


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Posted - 12/06/2005 :  16:07:49  Show Profile  Send Kwah an ICQ Message Send Kwah a Private Message  Reply with Quote
vetsinou breci monkove co by chteli byt MT na raidech

problem je, ze i kdyby avoidance fungovala tak ja si to predstavuji, tak ma stejne jednu velkou nevyhodu - je nevypocitatelna
proste se mob nemusi trefit a nebo se muze trefit 3x v rade.
takze kdo chce hrat na jistotu necha tankovat plechovku
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Posted - 13/06/2005 :  11:00:34  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tak jsem si udelal nejmene hrane povolani/nejmene hranou rasu char ;) aneb Bruiser Troll - a je to docela zabavca - porad pouzivam nejake skilly a ma pekny animace ;) Oproti templarovi a jeho:

reactive ... pul .... debuff debuff ..... reactive ........ reactive ...... atd je to zmena ;)

Zatim (lev 16) mne prijde mne ze bruiser je spis nez fighter class takovej skoro scout class - LA a slusny dps. Je to presne to co rad hraju - melee dps, ale bez hide/zezadu/zboku saskovani. Jeste by mne potesila trochu vetsi variabilita HO - nejaky dalsi moznosti combeni specek by byly fajn. Takze pokud to takhle bude dal (DPS char s moznosti bejt offtank) tak budu spokojen.

Akorat jak znam svoje stesti tak az dorazi combat revamp tak s mym stestim udelaj z bruisera nepuzitelnyho tanka bez dps ;/

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Posted - 13/06/2005 :  11:11:47  Show Profile  Send Kwah an ICQ Message Send Kwah a Private Message  Reply with Quote
bruisery mam rad. to sou dobri zakaznici. na 40+ si vetsinou nechavaji delat 2 pary rare boxeru kazdy
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Posted - 13/06/2005 :  11:57:08  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
bruiser dava minimalne o tricet procent lepsi dps nez nejlepsi scout class - assassin
toto dmg dava zepredu zezadu jakkoliv a jeste k tomu muze tankovat

takze jo bruiser zaslouzi nerf a to poradnej

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Posted - 13/06/2005 :  13:25:56  Show Profile  Send Eskel an ICQ Message Send Eskel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Pertha

bruiser dava minimalne o tricet procent lepsi dps nez nejlepsi scout class - assassin
toto dmg dava zepredu zezadu jakkoliv a jeste k tomu muze tankovat

takze jo bruiser zaslouzi nerf a to poradnej



Nejlepsi scout class neni assassin ale brigand
Ted to neberu nejak z osobniho pocitu, ale je to opravdu tak.

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Posted - 13/06/2005 :  13:33:57  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Eskel

quote:
Originally posted by Pertha

bruiser dava minimalne o tricet procent lepsi dps nez nejlepsi scout class - assassin
toto dmg dava zepredu zezadu jakkoliv a jeste k tomu muze tankovat

takze jo bruiser zaslouzi nerf a to poradnej



Nejlepsi scout class neni assassin ale brigand
Ted to neberu nejak z osobniho pocitu, ale je to opravdu tak.



mozna :) opravdu dava vetsi dmg ? pak je zas neco spatne :) bo assassin kurva nic jinyho nez dmg neumi tak proc v tom neni nejlepsi

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Originally posted by Pertha

quote:
Originally posted by Eskel

quote:
Originally posted by Pertha

bruiser dava minimalne o tricet procent lepsi dps nez nejlepsi scout class - assassin
toto dmg dava zepredu zezadu jakkoliv a jeste k tomu muze tankovat

takze jo bruiser zaslouzi nerf a to poradnej



Nejlepsi scout class neni assassin ale brigand
Ted to neberu nejak z osobniho pocitu, ale je to opravdu tak.



mozna :) opravdu dava vetsi dmg ? pak je zas neco spatne :) bo assassin kurva nic jinyho nez dmg neumi tak proc v tom neni nejlepsi




Je to tak, slibovany debuffy mam na hovno, ale dmg davam o neco vetsi

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Posted - 13/06/2005 :  14:14:42  Show Profile  Send Eskel an ICQ Message Send Eskel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A mas pravdu, ze je neco spatne, protze asass/ranger by mel byt nejvetsi meele DPS a brigand/swash by meli byt v zavesu za nema

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Pertha
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Posted - 13/06/2005 :  14:19:52  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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A mas pravdu, ze je neco spatne, protze asass/ranger by mel byt nejvetsi meele DPS a brigand/swash by meli byt v zavesu za nema



ranger asi spis ranged dps nez melee ale souhlasim, je to stara vec, no sem zvedav po datadisku a combat upgrade jestli krom instantkillu co uz ma nepridaj bruiserum i invul

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Posted - 13/06/2005 :  22:49:27  Show Profile  Send Eskel an ICQ Message Send Eskel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Pertha

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Originally posted by Eskel

A mas pravdu, ze je neco spatne, protze asass/ranger by mel byt nejvetsi meele DPS a brigand/swash by meli byt v zavesu za nema



ranger asi spis ranged dps nez melee ale souhlasim, je to stara vec, no sem zvedav po datadisku a combat upgrade jestli krom instantkillu co uz ma nepridaj bruiserum i invul



Me by se celkem libilo, kdyby rangeri jeli vsechny specky z dalky jako magove, akorat ze lukem :)

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Posted - 14/06/2005 :  11:04:38  Show Profile  Visit Kurik's Homepage  Send Kurik an ICQ Message Send Kurik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
to by nejdriv museli dat rangerum peta... porad nechapu, ze ho rangeri nemaji, pro me je tim to povolani odepsany :-/
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Posted - 14/06/2005 :  11:13:24  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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to by nejdriv museli dat rangerum peta... porad nechapu, ze ho rangeri nemaji, pro me je tim to povolani odepsany :-/



lol no to teda nechapu proc ;) ja treba rangera nemam s petem vubec asociovanyho ;) (jinak mam pocit ze neni o co stat - aspon podle breku summoneru na ofiko forech ;)

ale co mne vadi, je ze jako scout class je az do levelu 20 klasickej hider - coz je neco co naprosto nesnasim - a i potom musi pro vyuziti max dmg potencialu kazdou chvili naklusat k mobovy a picnout ho zezadu/z hide do prdele...

podle mne chybi EQ2 klasicky bow/crossbow povolani tak jak pise Eskel - jen s bow speckama ... a klidne by mohlo bejt z scout vetve, ale specializace na luk by mela zacinat uz na lev 10 (nebo ho udelat z fighter vetve - medium armor + crossbow (FP) light armor + bow (Q) ;)

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Posted - 14/06/2005 :  11:19:07  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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mozna :) opravdu dava vetsi dmg ? pak je zas neco spatne :) bo assassin kurva nic jinyho nez dmg neumi tak proc v tom neni nejlepsi



no a co jinyho nez DPS ma bruiser? ;)

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Posted - 14/06/2005 :  11:33:00  Show Profile  Send Eskel an ICQ Message Send Eskel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by brutus

quote:
Originally posted by Kurik

to by nejdriv museli dat rangerum peta... porad nechapu, ze ho rangeri nemaji, pro me je tim to povolani odepsany :-/



lol no to teda nechapu proc ;) ja treba rangera nemam s petem vubec asociovanyho ;) (jinak mam pocit ze neni o co stat - aspon podle breku summoneru na ofiko forech ;)

ale co mne vadi, je ze jako scout class je az do levelu 20 klasickej hider - coz je neco co naprosto nesnasim - a i potom musi pro vyuziti max dmg potencialu kazdou chvili naklusat k mobovy a picnout ho zezadu/z hide do prdele...

podle mne chybi EQ2 klasicky bow/crossbow povolani tak jak pise Eskel - jen s bow speckama ... a klidne by mohlo bejt z scout vetve, ale specializace na luk by mela zacinat uz na lev 10 (nebo ho udelat z fighter vetve - medium armor + crossbow (FP) light armor + bow (Q) ;)



OK, tak smazeme assasiny a misto nich udelame crossbowmany

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Posted - 14/06/2005 :  11:42:41  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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OK, tak smazeme assasiny a misto nich udelame crossbowmany



ja spis myslel nechat rangera jako Q scouta a predelat jednoho wara na FP crossbowmana - asi treba zerka - stejne SOE nevi c s nim provest ...

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Posted - 14/06/2005 :  11:54:22  Show Profile  Send Pertha an ICQ Message Send Pertha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by brutus

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Originally posted by Pertha
mozna :) opravdu dava vetsi dmg ? pak je zas neco spatne :) bo assassin kurva nic jinyho nez dmg neumi tak proc v tom neni nejlepsi



no a co jinyho nez DPS ma bruiser? ;)



je to vynikajici tank na strasnou spoustu situaci vlastne skoro vsude krome raidu lepsi nez ostatni fighteri

na assasina se mob skarede podiva a lezi - od nerfu agility do te doby mel slusnou avoidance

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Raady
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Posted - 15/06/2005 :  12:50:30  Show Profile Send Raady a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Pertha

bruiser dava minimalne o tricet procent lepsi dps nez nejlepsi scout class - assassin
toto dmg dava zepredu zezadu jakkoliv a jeste k tomu muze tankovat

takze jo bruiser zaslouzi nerf a to poradnej



Nejlepsi scout class neni assassin ale brigand
Ted to neberu nejak z osobniho pocitu, ale je to opravdu tak.


Nemuzu posuzovat jak je tomu na vyssich levelech ale kolem 25. levelu dela swashbuckler tak o polovinu dmg vic co bruiser. Mam to vyzkouseny z vlastni zkusenosti.

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Posted - 15/06/2005 :  13:46:29  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Nemuzu posuzovat jak je tomu na vyssich levelech ale kolem 25. levelu dela swashbuckler tak o polovinu dmg vic co bruiser. Mam to vyzkouseny z vlastni zkusenosti.



;) Potvrzuju - muj Bruiser co se dmg tyce neni nic moc uber - ted na lev 18 dela rozhodne min dmg nez Zerk... ale je zabavnej - bavej mne ty jeho animace ;D

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