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Tragedy
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 Posted - 17/06/2004 : 09:34:40
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Originally posted by Jules Winfield
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Originally posted by Tragedy
Ano, vzhledem k tomu, ze revoluce byla v mych 15 letech, tak jsem nezazil ten pravy teror, ale moc dobre si pamatuju na navstevy pametnich sini hrdinu socialismu, na prvomajove pruvody, na fronty na banany, na fronty na benzin, na dva druhy cokolady, na reklamy na drubez a tezebni stroje a na uzasne zpravy o pokrocich nasi vyspele socialisticke vlasti.
zapomel jsi na uzasny protichemicky cviceni v nefungujicich plynovych maskach, plastenkach a gumickou sepnutych igelitakach na rukach a nohach...
jinak me se zrovna nelibi, ze kdyz nekdo uvadi rozdily mezi zivotem pres rokem '89 a po nem, tak na prvnim miste uvede, ze driv tu nebylo 10 druhu cokolady, hajzlpapiru atd. a az nekdy na desatym miste si vzpomene na moznost se svobodne rozhodovat (treba zrovna pri volbach do parlamentu nebo do EP, do jake zeme vyrazim na dovolenou atd.), moznost jit studovat (at uz na nasi skolu nebo zahranicni) bez ohledu na minulost svych rodicu a pribuznych, ucit se z ucebnic neobsahujicich na kazde druhe radce pochvalu nasi socialisticke republiky a naseho bratra - sovetskeho svazu atd.
melo by to byt presne opacne...
No jasne... uvadim jen to, co jsem jako dite hlavne vnimal. Samozrejme jsem zacal chapat, ze tu je neco spatne, ale v tomhle veku byl jeste na prvnim miste ten konzum :)
ad Beholder: "Kdyz jsme u toho, jak vypada dnesni zdravotnictni, zemedelstvi, skolstvi, prumysl, zamestanost atd. a jak vypadaly tyhle veci predtim, hm ? Nektere veci byly spatne, nikde jsem je neschvalil a ani je schvalovat nechci, coz ovsem NEZNAMENA, ze cely system byl spatny.
Tak tohle snad uz nemuzes myslet vazne, ze ne? |
Tragedy
"Killing is my business...
...and business is good!" |
Edited by - Tragedy on 17/06/2004 09:35:34 |
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Pertha
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 09:38:08
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Originally posted by Black
Hehe treba tohle je ted aktualni titulek na iDNES co na to rict ....
"17.06.2004 07:49 - Ministři přiznávají, že neumějí komunikovat s veřejností
Sliby plníme, vzkázala vláda"
...asi jako za Milouse Jakese bych rek
jo akorat kdyz to ctu nevim jestli se smat, nebo bat co prijde jako dalsi |
Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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Khaot
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 10:25:07
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Originally posted by Pertha
jo akorat kdyz to ctu nevim jestli se smat, nebo bat co prijde jako dalsi
Bat se...
jako priklad postaci presvedceni Sobotky, ze vydanim dluhopisu na uhradu ztrat CKA (vlastne jen casti) je mozno tuto ztratu povazovat za uhrazenou. |
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Sir.Thomik
věčný kritik
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 10:36:11
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Originally posted by Khaot
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Originally posted by Pertha
jo akorat kdyz to ctu nevim jestli se smat, nebo bat co prijde jako dalsi
Bat se...
jako priklad postaci presvedceni Sobotky, ze vydanim dluhopisu na uhradu ztrat CKA (vlastne jen casti) je mozno tuto ztratu povazovat za uhrazenou.
No nevim na jak dlouho ty dluhopisy vydavaji, ale jesli s dobou splatnosti treba 3 roky, tka pro tuto vladu je jiste ztrata uhrazena, a dalsi vlada vyda tzv. pokladnicni poukazku na dluhopis, pokud to zase budou socky jako ted. Takze nekonecny kolobeh. Chce to proste silnou vladu, co se neboji nam trosku utahnout opasky. Napr. v Irsku to pred 15 lety si utahli opasky a kde ted jsou?...  |
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Cert2
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 11:16:57
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Originally posted by Ardeth
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Originally posted by Cert2
brutus,Ardeth,Thomik: ROFL...   
Pravda je smutna co Certe...
Ano, pravda je smutna, ses debil... |
-Laska je zkur.ena kapitalisticka konspirace chamtivejch kvetinaru-
*The murderer Feyd Rautha*
-ex/member of Suchdol -Triada- team. |
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Cert2
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 11:21:00
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Originally posted by Pertha
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Originally posted by beholder
[br
lol :))
edit: Ja treba zas nechapu, jak muzete volit ODS potom, co vsechno tady predvedli.
muzes mluvit konkretne koho ODS mucila veznila apod. ? to by me zajimalo rad si rozsirim obzory
To uz je i na me moc takovej cernej humor Pertha se nezapre jako vzdy.
Tahle debata se zvrhla v "Beholderova neznalost vs naprosty zvratky a zvasty". |
-Laska je zkur.ena kapitalisticka konspirace chamtivejch kvetinaru-
*The murderer Feyd Rautha*
-ex/member of Suchdol -Triada- team. |
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Sir.Thomik
věčný kritik
924 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 11:35:34
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| No Certe, ty tvoje sracky je taky radost cist. A jeste k tomu se musim koukat na tak uchylnej avatar. Stydis se aspon nekdy za sebe? Mel bys... |
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San-Raal
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 11:44:16
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Originally posted by Sir.Thomik
No nevim na jak dlouho ty dluhopisy vydavaji, ale jesli s dobou splatnosti treba 3 roky, tka pro tuto vladu je jiste ztrata uhrazena, a dalsi vlada vyda tzv. pokladnicni poukazku na dluhopis, pokud to zase budou socky jako ted. Takze nekonecny kolobeh. Chce to proste silnou vladu, co se neboji nam trosku utahnout opasky. Napr. v Irsku to pred 15 lety si utahli opasky a kde ted jsou?...
Vis jak se to rika... tlusty budou hubeny, a hubeny budou studeny :) |
San-Raal
...dyslexia for cure found... |
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Sir.Thomik
věčný kritik
924 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 11:54:56
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Originally posted by San-Raal
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Originally posted by Sir.Thomik
No nevim na jak dlouho ty dluhopisy vydavaji, ale jesli s dobou splatnosti treba 3 roky, tka pro tuto vladu je jiste ztrata uhrazena, a dalsi vlada vyda tzv. pokladnicni poukazku na dluhopis, pokud to zase budou socky jako ted. Takze nekonecny kolobeh. Chce to proste silnou vladu, co se neboji nam trosku utahnout opasky. Napr. v Irsku to pred 15 lety si utahli opasky a kde ted jsou?...
Vis jak se to rika... tlusty budou hubeny, a hubeny budou studeny :)
Takze ja budu hubenej a ty studenej. Dobra vyhlidka. |
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San-Raal
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 12:30:51
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Originally posted by Sir.Thomik
Takze ja budu hubenej a ty studenej. Dobra vyhlidka.
Ne, hubenej budu ja. Ty budes furt tlustej :)) |
San-Raal
...dyslexia for cure found... |
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Ardeth
Junior Member
697 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 13:18:08
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Originally posted by Cert2
Ano, pravda je smutna, ses debil...
Hlavne, ze mi to rika clovek co ho vyrazili ze skoly, nema na vraceni dluhu a podobne...ja jsem narozdil od tebe prinosem pro stat, ty z neho zatim jen a jen cerpas. |
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Speh
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 13:19:45
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Dobra debatka.Nejak furt at premejslim jak premejslim nemuzu prijit na nic co by podle beholdera na komunismu bylo aspon dobre.To co jse tu kyda na vladu ods a kam to dospelo me zacian srat.Vemte si kde jsme byli kdyz to oni prebirali a kde jsme byli nez to prebrali socani a kde jsme ted.Jiste udelali plno veci ktere sli udelat lip neco zesrali neco se rozkradlo, ale bohuzel neexistovala zadna prirucka jak solidne reformovat poskomunisticke zeme.Pokud se ohledneme zpatky na ostatni zeme co z toho vylezli s nama, tak jsme dopadli nejlip.Takze si myslim ze jejich vlada nebyla tak katastrofalni.Ja osobne doufam ze predcasny volby budou a konecne odtahnou a zacne se neco delat.Hlavne aby neco uz udelali s tim podnikanim je to fakt tragedie bejt zivnostnik.
A prestante nas srovnavat ze zapadem, zapad v tomdle je o 40let vepredu kua, mame jinou historii jinou mentalitu. |
Mé dílo jsem Já, kdo jej neuznává, neuznává mě. |
Edited by - Speh on 17/06/2004 13:20:45 |
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Rebel
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 13:45:39
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Originally posted by Ardeth
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Originally posted by Cert2
Ano, pravda je smutna, ses debil...
Hlavne, ze mi to rika clovek co ho vyrazili ze skoly, nema na vraceni dluhu a podobne...ja jsem narozdil od tebe prinosem pro stat, ty z neho zatim jen a jen cerpas.
LOL Ardeth je přínos pro stát :o) to mi nedělej, málem jsem smíchy spadl ze židle |
*Rebel* PK (f)lame [ve výslužbě]
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Cert2
New Member
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 13:46:41
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Originally posted by Ardeth
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Originally posted by Cert2
Ano, pravda je smutna, ses debil...
Hlavne, ze mi to rika clovek co ho vyrazili ze skoly, nema na vraceni dluhu a podobne...ja jsem narozdil od tebe prinosem pro stat, ty z neho zatim jen a jen cerpas.
chacha, tak ty ses i komediant, diky ze mi tema x sekundama smichu prodluzujes zivot...
Jinak jestli ty 2 kila chces, tak si pro ne prijed ty prinose pro stat. |
-Laska je zkur.ena kapitalisticka konspirace chamtivejch kvetinaru-
*The murderer Feyd Rautha*
-ex/member of Suchdol -Triada- team. |
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Tartaros
Junior Member
527 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 13:57:40
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Originally posted by Ardeth
... ono nic jinyho se na vladu kydat neda. Diky tem volum co rozhoduji o nasich zivotech ... v kazdy arbitrazi prohravame...
Muzes mi prozradit v jakyze "kazdy" arbitrazi prohravame? V jaky kromne ty kvuli tv nova?
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Originally posted by Pertha
BEHOLDERE ODPOVEZ MI KOHO ODS MUCILA VEZNILA
sem nevedel ze ses takovy dite ze musis psat velkym cervenym :)
Jinak Beholdere myslim ze tu volbu komunismu asi neobhajis :) A uprimne receno si myslim ze se obhajit neda.
Jedine snad citovat zname "kdo neni komunista ve dvaceti, nema srdce; Kdo je komunista ve triceti, nema rozum." Preber si to jak chces :) |
SteamEngine: novy UO emulator ve vyvoji.
Programujte (nejen) objektove |
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brutus
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 14:16:30
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Originally posted by Tartaros
Jedine snad citovat zname "kdo neni komunista ve dvaceti, nema srdce; Kdo je komunista ve triceti, nema rozum."
hehe tahle veta v ruznem zneni je pripisovana docela dost lidem (ja osobne si myslel ze je Churchilova ;)
(shameless copy&paste:)
http://retro.co.za/quotes/eli.html says:
Any man who is not... a socialist before he is 40 has no heart.
Any man who is still a socialist after he is 40 has no head.
- Wendell L. Willkie (quoted by Richard Norton Smith)
http://www.sirius.com/~maya/poetry/republico.html says:
As George Bernard Shaw said,
one who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart,
and one who remains a socialist at 40 has no head.
http://home.planetinternet.be/~smitsr/quotes/b.html says:
The man who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart,
but if he is still a socialist at 40 he has no head.
- Aristide Briand (1862 - 1932)
[French premier and former socialist]
http://bserver.com/bunker/party.html says:
I think it was William Casey [director of the CIA] who said,
A man who isn't a socialist at 20 has no heart,
and a man who is a socialist at 40 has no head.
http://abedul.pntic.mec.es/colaborativos/quotes/list.html says:
Anyone who is not a socialist at 16 has no heart,
but anyone who still is at 32 has no mind.
- Woodrow Wilson
http://jerryk.com/dialogue/dialogue960915.htm says:
He who is not a Socialist at 19, has no heart.
He who is still a Socialist at 30, has no brain.
- Otto Von Bismarck (1815-1896)
http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/Content/1998/12/68/edits/seaton.html says:
Georges Clemenceau [another French Premier and former socialist]
once said something like:
A 20-year-old who is not a Socialist has no heart,
but a 30-year-old who is still a Socialist has no brains.
http://www.bkkpost.samart.co.th/news/BParchive/BP970911/1109_busi22.html says:
Not to be a Republican at 20 is proof of want of heart;
to be one at 30 is proof of want of head.
- François Guisot (1787-1874)
and:
A man who is not a liberal at 16 has no heart;
a man who is not a conservative at 60 has no head.
- Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881)
and:
Not to be a socialist at 20 is proof of want of heart;
to be one at 30 is proof of want of head.
- Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929)
and:
Any man who is under 30 and is not a Liberal has no heart; and
any man who is over 30 and not a Conservative has no brains.
- Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
A definitive answer arose in the wonderful book
"Nice Guys Finish Seventh: False Phrases, Spurious Sayings,
and Familiar Misquotations" by Ralph Keyes, 1992. He writes:
"An orphan quote [unattributed quote in search of a home] sometimes
attributed to Georges Clemenceau is:
Any man who is not a socialist at age 20 has no heart.
Any man who is still a socialist at age 40 has no head.
The most likely reason is that Bennet Cerf once reported Clemenceau's
response to a visitor's alarm about his son being a communist:
If he had not become a Communist at 22, I would have disowned him.
If he is still a Communist at 30, I will do it then.
George Seldes later quoted Lloyd George as having said:
A young man who isn't a socialist hasn't got a heart;
an old man who is a socialist hasn't got a head.
The earliest known version of this observation is attributed to
mid-nineteenth century historian and statesman François Guizot:
Not to be a republican at 20 is proof of want of heart;
to be one at 30 is proof of want of head.
Variations on this theme were later attributed to Disraeli, Shaw,
Churchill, and Bertrand Russell. (I misquoted Churchill to this
effect for years.)"
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Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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The Nero
Starting Member
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 14:21:09
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100x radej tady budu mit ODS nez zkrachovanyho Archeologa(Spidlu) Zeleznicare(Standu Grosse) Dělníka (Škromach) proboha jak tito lide muzou rozhodovat v necem na co maji jini Vysokou skolu a nekolik let praxe....... |
Originally posted by Isac
stejně nechápu jak si může někdo na dp stěžovat
to je jako kdybych si dobrovolně vlez do žumpy a za 14 dní se začal divit, že do ní někdo nas*al |
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Pertha
Moderator
7950 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 14:21:16
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Originally posted by Tartaros
sem nevedel ze ses takovy dite ze musis psat velkym cervenym :)
to vis, malyho si nevsiml, a rikal jsem si, ze cervenou ma rad
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Rock is overpowerd, please nerf. Paper is fine.
Yours, Scissors.
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Colldor
Gimp
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Posted - 17/06/2004 : 14:25:33
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| Pertha> |
Colldor, Allerious, Turrin Bagalmon [UO - DP] (retired)
Colldor, Enforcer <CzA> [Anarchy Online] (retired)
Kremilek, Troll Warrior <Zdechliny> [WoW] (retired)
Colldor, Zealot <Skull> [WHO] (retired) |
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Ardeth
Junior Member
697 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 14:30:33
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| Certe opet dukaz jak jsi ubohej. Ja ti pujcim prachy a jeste si mam pro ne dojet ? Uz se nad sebou zamysli. |
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Tragedy
Moderator
2637 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 14:53:22
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Originally posted by The Nero
100x radej tady budu mit ODS nez zkrachovanyho Archeologa(Spidlu) Zeleznicare(Standu Grosse) Dělníka (Škromach) proboha jak tito lide muzou rozhodovat v necem na co maji jini Vysokou skolu a nekolik let praxe.......
Je to des... Gross se u me navic totalne shodil po te, co hlasoval pro vladni 14. platy, nacez (myslim, ze v Kotli) hrde vykrikoval, jak ma cisty svedomi a jak hlasoval proti... tomu fakt rikam trapas. |
Tragedy
"Killing is my business...
...and business is good!" |
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Sagger
Ci-ua-ua
925 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 15:01:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Tartaros
quote:
Originally posted by Ardeth
... ono nic jinyho se na vladu kydat neda. Diky tem volum co rozhoduji o nasich zivotech ... v kazdy arbitrazi prohravame...
Muzes mi prozradit v jakyze "kazdy" arbitrazi prohravame? V jaky kromne ty kvuli tv nova?
Rozhodne jich je vic nez pouze jedna. Co si matne vzpominam, tak za poslednich par let nas to stalo hodne. |
1st Lokian Platoon, IHC
www.imperialhighcommand.com |
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Khaot
Average Member
1947 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 15:05:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Sagger
quote:
Originally posted by Tartaros
quote:
Originally posted by Ardeth
... ono nic jinyho se na vladu kydat neda. Diky tem volum co rozhoduji o nasich zivotech ... v kazdy arbitrazi prohravame...
Muzes mi prozradit v jakyze "kazdy" arbitrazi prohravame? V jaky kromne ty kvuli tv nova?
Rozhodne jich je vic nez pouze jedna. Co si matne vzpominam, tak za poslednich par let nas to stalo hodne.
Problem prohranych arbitrazi neni vzdy v neschopnosti vlady resit dany problem. Ale uzce to souvisi s nasimi pravnimi predpisy a zakony a smlouvami, ktere nase republika podepsala a zavazala se je dodrzovat. Prave tehdy dochazi ke stretu naseho a mezinarodniho prava, coz neni jednoznacne vina teto vlady. |
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Coriven
The Judge
328 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 15:06:19
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| petrcile...Diag Human...hrozi Nomura atd... |
Dávejte na sebe pozor, holoto!
Dobře už bylo... |
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Coriven
The Judge
328 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 15:07:32
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| Khaot: To si asi delas srandu...Diag Human je skoro exemplarni priklad... |
Dávejte na sebe pozor, holoto!
Dobře už bylo... |
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San-Raal
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Cert2
New Member
195 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 20:45:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Ardeth
Certe opet dukaz jak jsi ubohej. Ja ti pujcim prachy a jeste si mam pro ne dojet ? Uz se nad sebou zamysli.
Ubohost patri k cloveku co ho vyrazili ze skoly, nema na vraceni dluhu a podobne, narozdil od lidi co sou prinosem pro stat. Tak si nech kvuli tem dvoum kilum treba vrtat koleno, kdyz ti tak chybi a me polib prdel. |
-Laska je zkur.ena kapitalisticka konspirace chamtivejch kvetinaru-
*The murderer Feyd Rautha*
-ex/member of Suchdol -Triada- team. |
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Ardeth
Junior Member
697 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2004 : 21:32:17
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| Jo ja je pujcoval na ukor toho, ze mi budou vraceny kamaradem a ne volem co si tu na foru dokazuje jakej je frajer kdyz je nechce vratit. |
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brutus
Average Member
1833 Posts |
Posted - 18/06/2004 : 00:10:03
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quote:
Originally posted by Cert2
k cloveku co ho vyrazili ze skoly, nema na vraceni dluhu a podobne, narozdil od lidi co sou prinosem pro stat. Tak si nech kvuli tem dvoum kilum treba vrtat koleno, kdyz ti tak chybi a me polib prdel.
Ubohost, dusevni nedostatecnost, socialni disfunkce..... .EQ. "Ignore Cert2" |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Mistral
Moderator
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Posted - 18/06/2004 : 07:26:37
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A to je vše. Tadydádydádydá.  |
Mistral (CoNT - sleeping member; laged and bored to death)
Lord Ancient member of Forum Posthunters - Forum Outcast.
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