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VT
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Posted - 07/01/2007 :  22:51:19  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jak asi vite jsou stromy ve Vanguardu z 99 procent pruchozi (je to jen textura).

Tady je vyjadreni Sigilu k reseni problemu stromu:


The tree issue is, by no means, being simply ignored guys.

There are some possible solutions, but whichever one is chosen to go forward with needs to have little to no impact on performance as a whole.

It is highly exploitable in PVP, we know and hope to have addressed it as soon as possible.

Edited by - VT on 08/01/2007 15:01:31

VT
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Posted - 08/01/2007 :  15:05:35  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dalsim problemem jsou rezisty; v praxi - stejny level rogue mi rezistnul 8 z 10 cleric ddecek ....

http://forums.vanguardsoh.com/showthread.php?t=102324



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tojejedno
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Posted - 08/01/2007 :  15:11:12  Show Profile  Send tojejedno an ICQ Message Send tojejedno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tojejedno, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons...

Se nevytahuj ze si v bete

AO: Pan Shade Tojejedno + PvP nub - retarded (tm)by NerfTý Mittra
VG: Jsem takova mala pisnicka - retarded s potencialem
EQ2: Tojeonde - Pivipi - retarded
Rift: Tojejedno - nejakej FOTM class, takze klerik asi:/ - retarded
FF XIV: Toje Tojejedno - a opet retarded, hrozna hra
TESO - tojejedno - sorcka - Sem se vratil z dovolene a prej uz se to nehraje

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VT
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Posted - 08/01/2007 :  15:16:00  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aha, no ja myslel, ze je tam uz kazdej ...

Ono tam vlastne nic neni, jen to potvrdilo moji zkusenost s rezisty v pvp :)
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VT
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Posted - 09/01/2007 :  06:25:37  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
01655

- On pvp servers, tab will now cycle through PC's as well as NPC's for offensive targets.


No slava.
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VT
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Posted - 09/01/2007 :  11:29:59  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jeste neco oficialniho k pvp serverum:





Greetings,

I know that many of you have been waiting for an official announcement on our PVP structure. After confirming a few things today I would like to take this time to let you know what will be happening at launch and what we are looking at for a post launch implementation.

These are the rulesets we will have at launch:
• FFA
• Race Wars (team)

Post Launch:
• Expansion of point system (rewards and other benefits)
• Item loot FFA functionality (possible full loot)


The remaining time spent on PVP will be focused on balancing out classes and fleshing out point system

functionality.
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Black
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Posted - 09/01/2007 :  18:26:19  Show Profile  Send Black an ICQ Message Send Black a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Van Tassel
• Item loot FFA functionality (possible full loot)

No super, co vic si prat

Black

Edited by - Black on 09/01/2007 18:33:51
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Tibor
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Posted - 10/01/2007 :  08:16:23  Show Profile  Visit Tibor's Homepage  Send Tibor an ICQ Message Send Tibor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Post launch může znamenat víceméně cokoliv, klidně i nikdy.
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VT
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  08:52:12  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dalsi nevyrazne oficialni info o pvp a serverech:



Morning all,

Sorry that I posted the details yesterday and then was silent but there are many things left to do and I got extremely busy afterwards. Let me first say that I understand how vague the post was, but that was all the info I could give atm. I knew that everyone wanted some feedback so decided to get the answer out there for you all and try to weed through the questions afterwards.

We want the foundation of PVP to be solid first and foremost and devoting time to that is very important. We understand that their is a hardcore market as many in this building are hardcore (pre WoW) PVPers who like the taste of a marks blood in their mouth. But fact of the matter is that we do not have much time, and we do not want to implement certain things without proper time to test.

We do want to do item loot (I want full item loot) and we certainly want death to mean something, but we want to make sure that the basics are there and that our classes can function properly in a PVP environment. As many of you have stated there are particular issues that need to be panned out and thought through to prevent abuse of cross teaming or level ranges, figuring these things out rank higher on our list right now.

There are many here who are passionate about this aspect of the game and we will try our best not to disappoint.
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Urcite vedi, ze si nemuzou dovolit udelat pouze podobne uslintane 'pvp' servery jako ve wow.

Takze ja to vidim tak, ze releasnou x ffa serveru, x rasovych a postupne budou balancovat classy, vytvaret timery, disablovat ci omezovat extremni pve ability. Pak prijdou rewardy/postihy a nakonec by se mohl objevit i item loot.
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Dorlas
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  10:14:19  Show Profile  Send Dorlas an ICQ Message Send Dorlas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jen aby to neprehnali s mnozstvim servru... i kdyz mohli by je pak spojit jako treba v daoc...

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Rashaverak
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  10:20:24  Show Profile  Send Rashaverak an ICQ Message Send Rashaverak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
imo bude jeden pvp ffa server pro eu a jeden pro us protoze i tak budou oba poloprazdne, na hc pvp ma naladu minimum hracu, viz daoc pvp servery. to co je ve wow pod pojmeme pvp server je srandovni

lastfm

Edited by - Rashaverak on 11/01/2007 10:22:13
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VT
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  10:21:00  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dorlas

jen aby to neprehnali s mnozstvim servru... i kdyz mohli by je pak spojit jako treba v daoc...



Doufam, ze udelaji maximalne 2 ffa servery a 1 rasovy. A vsechny budou internationalni.

A je mi celkem fuk, jestli bude nektery z nich Server Exchange rdy (zjednodusi se mi tak vyber pac ja na nem urcite hrat nebudu).
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VT
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  10:23:49  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rashaverak

imo bude jeden pvp ffa server protoze ten bude i tak poloprazdnej



Lidi jsou hladovy po ffa (neklikaci tu nebyl uz asi pet let). Takze minimalne prvni mesice se to tam bude skvele mlatit )

Problem vidim v male reklame Vanguardu obecne. Spousta us hracu hru vubec nezna, nevedi, ze ma neco podobneho releasnout ...

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Black
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  10:26:52  Show Profile  Send Black an ICQ Message Send Black a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No je skoro jiste ze jdeme do placene bety, nicmene v pripade FFA serveru verim, ze i s tema bugama a nevyvazenosti bude start docela zabava. Jinak ja jim dam 3mes hajeni, po kterych se uvidi jestli to ma dalsi perspektivu.

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brutus
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  10:35:53  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja to vidim stejne - Shadowbane na tom byl pri ostrem startu podobne jako je ted VG a presto to byla diky PvP neuveritelna zabava (nez odesli lidi - doufejme ze to u VG nedopadne stejne)

Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE!
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WanargiMort
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  10:40:31  Show Profile Send WanargiMort a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Co znamena FFA ?

Nevyznam se v techto terminech


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VT
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  10:45:38  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WanargiMort

Co znamena FFA ?

Nevyznam se v techto terminech



FreeForAll player versus player

Jsou ruzne varianty. Nektere hry maji ffa servery se safe zonama, nektere bez nich, nektere hry maji moznost item lootu, nektere hry umoznuji placat i do guild memberu atd.

Dulezity je taky rozdil levelu, ktere se muzou nazvajem zabijet. Ja preferuji ffa servery bez level restrikci.


Vanguard ffa server bude asi bez safe zon, bez item lootu (zezacatku), +-5 level, a co se tyce mlaceni guild memberu tak to na beta ffa slo, ale rekl bych, ze v produkci to nepujde.


Edited by - VT on 11/01/2007 11:18:43
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erdisk
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  12:14:53  Show Profile  Send erdisk an ICQ Message Send erdisk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hoci mam PVP adrenalin rad, pri full loot zvlast, vadi mi jedna vec. Ak to bude bez safe zon, tak presne ako v bete budu campovane miesta kde sa beru questy a robi craft.
Takze ak budem chciet craftit, tak bud aby som si zohnal grupu ako ochranku, alebo budem stale mrtvy. Pripadne ak nechcem prist o veci, tak aby som po kazdom vykrafteni behal do banky a nazad.
No je to viac challenging, ale v tom pripade nebude mozne na PVP serveroch robit akykolvek solo kontent bez grupy (ak nechces byt stale mrtvy). A ta nie je k dispozicii vzdy.
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Black
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  12:23:01  Show Profile  Send Black an ICQ Message Send Black a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Podle me si zalezes do baracku a budes craftit nerusene.

Black

Edited by - Black on 11/01/2007 12:38:16
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SNowie
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  12:26:33  Show Profile  Send SNowie an ICQ Message Send SNowie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brutus

Ja to vidim stejne - Shadowbane na tom byl pri ostrem startu podobne jako je ted VG a presto to byla diky PvP neuveritelna zabava (nez odesli lidi - doufejme ze to u VG nedopadne stejne)

hlavně bych se modlil, aby nedopadl stejně jako jiná hra SOE, SWG - placená to beta už čtvrtým rokem
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VT
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  12:27:52  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by erdisk
Takze ak budem chciet craftit, tak bud aby som si zohnal grupu ako ochranku, alebo budem stale mrtvy. Pripadne ak nechcem prist o veci, tak aby som po kazdom vykrafteni behal do banky a nazad.
No je to viac challenging, ale v tom pripade nebude mozne na PVP serveroch robit akykolvek solo kontent bez grupy (ak nechces byt stale mrtvy). A ta nie je k dispozicii vzdy.



Na zacatku to nebude tak straslive. Imho 90 procent hracu bude chtit udelat co nejvyssi level v co nejkratsim case, takze nebudou mit na gankovani cas.

Pokud nebude level limit pro zabijeni tak nejhorsi casy pro low levely prijdou cca mesic po releasu :)

I tak si myslim, ze se vetsina hracu bude soustredit na pvp na svem levelu, a pouze role playing hraci a ti co si schvalne buduji zapornou reputaci budou strilet do vseho.

Edited by - VT on 11/01/2007 12:28:24
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Milamber
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  13:00:17  Show Profile Send Milamber a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Black

Podle me si zalezes do baracku a budes craftit nerusene.


To sice jo ale pri full lootu na ten barak jen tak mit nebudes
budes rad ze budes mit na equip..
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VT
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  13:05:48  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Milamber

quote:
Originally posted by Black

Podle me si zalezes do baracku a budes craftit nerusene.


To sice jo ale pri full lootu na ten barak jen tak mit nebudes
budes rad ze budes mit na equip..



Pokud bude full loot tak imho nebudou dropovat soulbindnuty itemy (to by pak vlastne full loot nebyl ..)).

edit: takze moje predstava idelaniho vanguard pvp serveru pro zamestnanyho cloveka co muze hrat denne 4 - 6 hodin je:

- ffa
- bez level restrikci, kazdy muze sestrelit kazdeho nezavisle na levelu
- moznost strilet do guild memberu
- nemoznost strilet do group memberu
- moznost lootovat vse mimo soulbindnutych itemu (za predpokladu, ze moby a questy nebudou tyto itemy generovat) a treba 50 procent penez
- v pripade rewardu jsem bez fantazie, ale asi by mi vyhovoval system, ktery je v daocu
- zadne safe zony, ani v housingu (vyjimkou byl mohl tvuj uzamceny dum, zaviral by se treba 10 vterin (takze by jsi do nej nemohl utect))

Edited by - VT on 11/01/2007 13:17:08
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Dorlas
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  13:49:54  Show Profile  Send Dorlas an ICQ Message Send Dorlas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Van Tassel

Pokud bude full loot tak imho nebudou dropovat soulbindnuty itemy (to by pak vlastne full loot nebyl ..)).

edit: takze moje predstava idelaniho vanguard pvp serveru pro zamestnanyho cloveka co muze hrat denne 4 - 6 hodin je:

- ffa
- bez level restrikci, kazdy muze sestrelit kazdeho nezavisle na levelu
- moznost strilet do guild memberu
- nemoznost strilet do group memberu
- moznost lootovat vse mimo soulbindnutych itemu (za predpokladu, ze moby a questy nebudou tyto itemy generovat) a treba 50 procent penez
- v pripade rewardu jsem bez fantazie, ale asi by mi vyhovoval system, ktery je v daocu
- zadne safe zony, ani v housingu (vyjimkou byl mohl tvuj uzamceny dum, zaviral by se treba 10 vterin (takze by jsi do nej nemohl utect))



utocit na guild membery se mi nezda ok, imho zbytecnost

safe zony klidne at nejsou, ale at muzes ve meste zavolat straz, kdyz te nekdo napadne - to by potom straze ve meste ztraceli smysl...

baraky by mohli udelat jak v uo, ze bys mel moznost cloveka z baraku vyhodit, prece jenom at aspon doma si v klidu

reward system ala daoc by byl super.


Jinak sem si ted serezal sorcku, ktera na me zautocila prvni. charge a po chvilce se valel. Sice mi pak psal ze sem cheater, ze pouzivam teleport ale i tak me to potesilo hehe

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Khostri
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  14:45:27  Show Profile  Send Khostri an ICQ Message Send Khostri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Přečti si email Dorlasi nebo zapni ICQ :)

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VT
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Posted - 11/01/2007 :  14:59:00  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tak presne tohle je nocni mura medvedobijcu z modrych serveru a rekl bych, ze presne takhle si predstavuji pvp, hehe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNcCVZgPj_M


V releasu bude imho nejaky nejaky mensi timer.
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