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Bearsson
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 Posted - 06/04/2005 : 11:49:32
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Jaky by jste doporucili build pro lvl60 zlodeje vzhledem k lepsi vyuzitelnosti pro party v instancich? Zatim vetsinou soluji, ale instance budou ted na dlouho dobu moje priorita.
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Mefisto
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 12:54:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Bearsson
Jaky by jste doporucili build pro lvl60 zlodeje vzhledem k lepsi vyuzitelnosti pro party v instancich? Zatim vetsinou soluji, ale instance budou ted na dlouho dobu moje priorita.
zalozit si cokoliv jinyho nez huntera a rogua
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ale ten build by kazdopadne mel obsahovat imp sap to je jedina PvE ( no snad jeste blade flurry ale tim bys imho bral moc aggra ) ktera by te mela trosicku zlepsit do instanci ale necekej nejakej extremni zajem :P |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 13:08:03
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kdyz misto rogua vezmou warlocka, udelaj lip...
no jinak teda moje osobni zkusenost:
daggers sux - na normalni boj maj malou damage, na backstab zas relativne velkou cimz muzes preagrovat tanka
jediny co pouzivam v boji je trapnej sinister strike spam
eviscerate musis volit s rozmyslem, nekdy se hodi, nekdy se vylozene nehodi a proto mas rupture
improved sap je jedina vec cim muze rogue v instanci nejak prospet parte
vanish samozrejme vecne nefunguje
imp. gouge se mi taky hodi, predevsim sceny kdy jeden mob je mimo a bezi na castery, nejak ho zastavit musis a zase ho nemuzes tankovat, takhle ma tank 5.5sec na to aby ho prevzal nebo caster sheepnul
no a ted teda co za build: me nejvic vyhovuje mit preparation - dovoli mi to 2x pouzit evasion behem boje, 2x pouzit vanish, 2x pouzit Cold blood
dalsi vec je cold blood - nedokazu si predstavit rogua bez cb :)
ja mam potom jeste imp. ss a imp gouge
pokud ma nekdo nejaky jiny nazory a navrhy, sem s tim, nikomu to nenutim 
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 13:22:10
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| jo jinak feint - vzivote sem to nemusel pouzit neboli vzivote sem to nepouzil, pro me to je ztrata energie |
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spajdr
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 13:55:46
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
jo jinak feint - vzivote sem to nemusel pouzit neboli vzivote sem to nepouzil, pro me to je ztrata energie
To se pleteš, protože když díky kritickému zásahu dáš pecku nějakému elite bossovi a on se na Tebe chytne, na místo třeba paladina, tak tímhle je velká šance že ho sundáš a on jede zase po paladinovi, nebýt feint, tak jsem parkrát zařval :-) |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 13:57:01
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| jak rikam, ani jednou sem to nepouzil a ziju |
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Bearsson
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 16:27:01
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Feint mi uz parkrat zachranil krk, ale ma ho kazdy zlodej - je to skill, neni to talent.
Aby diskuze nesmerovala do srovnani, ktere povolani je best do dungu, zustanme prosim jen u rogue. Proste predpokladejte, ze uz v te instanci je ;] |
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MegaDeath
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1989 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2005 : 16:41:35
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kdy preberes tankovi moba? kdyz das critical s nejakym skillem, co v takovy chvili nemas? energii ... tak prece nebudu cekat 2 vteriny pod palbou na to nez se mi doplni energie, abych mohl pouzit feint (to uz muzu mit o 1-2k hp min) ale kliknu na emergency button s napisem vanish.. ale kazdej to delame po svym  |
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spajdr
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 16:54:35
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
kdy preberes tankovi moba? kdyz das critical s nejakym skillem, co v takovy chvili nemas? energii ... tak prece nebudu cekat 2 vteriny pod palbou na to nez se mi doplni energie, abych mohl pouzit feint (to uz muzu mit o 1-2k hp min) ale kliknu na emergency button s napisem vanish.. ale kazdej to delame po svym
Jenomže vanish vždycky nefunguje, za to co feint prakticky pořád. To jestli nemám energii v té chvíli, to je problém. Ale jak často můžeš použít feint znova a za jak dlouho vanish? Když navíc máš na sobě DoT kouzlo, tak je ti vanish k hovnu a 20 energy za feint je nic. |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 17:01:43
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vanish te zachrani i kdyz mas na sobe dot, jen si to nekdy zkus, ty nepotrebujes stat se neviditelnej, ty jen potrebujes setrast agro, coz ten vanish udela i kdyz budes potom viditelnej
a spamovani feintu kdykoliv se ti vynuluje timer je imho vyhozena energie |
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beldor5
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 18:11:53
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| Sory,ale i ja jako feral druid ted v dungach obdobu feintu pouzivam,casto backuju a pokud hodim 2x po sobe crit,tak mob jde zarucene po mne,1x feint a je to zase ok.Pokud ho opravdu nepouzivas tak bych nechtel byt healer/tank ve vasi grupe, a kdyz zase nahodou tankuju/healuju tak me vzdycky serou zlodeji a magove co se proste o sebe neumeji postarat(pohlidat si agro) ,stejne jako priesti co neumi pouzivat fade.... |
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spajdr
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 19:33:38
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
vanish te zachrani i kdyz mas na sobe dot, jen si to nekdy zkus, ty nepotrebujes stat se neviditelnej, ty jen potrebujes setrast agro, coz ten vanish udela i kdyz budes potom viditelnej
a spamovani feintu kdykoliv se ti vynuluje timer je imho vyhozena energie
Kravina, pokud na Tebe třeba horďák warlock hodí ty svoje curse co ti ubírají zdraví co sekundu, tak ti ani vanish nepomůže, objevíš se hned. To co ty myslíš možná i funguje při normálních příšerách, ale když jsou poblíž jiné, tak se stejně zase hned chytnou. Zase tak ten feint nepoužívám, nemlátím jednoho hned za druhým, tohle není masová záležitost u každého boje  |
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Rahman
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 20:16:26
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| Je velkej rozdil mezi priestem a damage dealerem. DD si hlida jen to, aby nevzal aggro tankovi, ktery mlati stejneho moba. Kdyz nahodou vezme, tak uplne staci aby prestal mlatit. Priest se pouzitim fade aggra nezbavi, maximalne muze dat tankovi chvili na zareagovani k prevzeti addu (a ani to neni jiste, fade vetsinou nestaci). Mnohem radsi si za tu manu hodim PWS, to da tankovi taky nejaky cas a funguje to vzdycky. |
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Johny
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Posted - 06/04/2005 : 20:29:40
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Lord Mark
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Posted - 07/04/2005 : 10:16:20
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Rogue je do instanci totalne k nicemu. Nedivim se ze rogue nemuze najit kloudnou partu do High lvl instanci.
Vemme si trebas BRD.. Se Sapem se tam rogue nechyta,protoze sou tam podelny psi ktery vas odhali na kilometry daleko{obrazne receno}
Rany tam dostava za 300+ cili toho moc nevydrzi. Jedina vyhoda je velkej DMG,jenze kdyz se na vas sesype vic mobu,je to v hajzlu.
MegaDeath:tjn,mas klasickej pvp rogue build>]
Me se zas libi Seal fate. |
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Mamut
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Posted - 07/04/2005 : 11:29:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Mark
Rogue je do instanci totalne k nicemu. Nedivim se ze rogue nemuze najit kloudnou partu do High lvl instanci.
Vemme si trebas BRD.. Se Sapem se tam rogue nechyta,protoze sou tam podelny psi ktery vas odhali na kilometry daleko{obrazne receno}
Rany tam dostava za 300+ cili toho moc nevydrzi. Jedina vyhoda je velkej DMG,jenze kdyz se na vas sesype vic mobu,je to v hajzlu.
MegaDeath:tjn,mas klasickej pvp rogue build>]
Me se zas libi Seal fate.
Já jako hunter to v instancích taky nemam lehký a nechcou mě  |
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Seth
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Posted - 07/04/2005 : 12:11:53
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rahman a johny
oba mate v necem pravdu
FADE je dobre jako takovy polomezz, kdyz se na vas sesypou prisery a vy je timto pustite zpet, problem ale je kdyz to nepomuze, a nebo tank v dobe fadu nestihne preagrovat vsechny moby...to je fakt problem, protoze fade mate na cooldownu a PWS naagruje jeste vice mobu...
to uz pak zalezi jen na schopnostech tanka jak situaci vyresi, protoze tohle se pro priesta rovna smrti... |
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Kojot
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Posted - 07/04/2005 : 13:11:03
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Ja bych to tak kriticky nevidel, trebars do BRS (black rock sprite) rogueho vezmeme pokazdy radi, pac tam je to plny humanoidu a pak se sap osvedci. Taky je dobrej jako dmg dealer, tanka nepreagruje pokud to ten tank alespon trochu umi. Trebars vcera sme vicemene dali lahci cast DM (dire maul) ve 4 lidech, Megadeath byl s nama a muzu potvrdit ze i jako rogue se uplatnil. 5. clen byl/mnel byt druid kterej byl ovsem jednou pulkou nekde v oblacich ... :-)
Je to je muj subjektivny nazor na rogueho v grupe z pohledu warriora :-)
Hunter to ma 5 x tezsi ... |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 13:38:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Kojot
Ja bych to tak kriticky nevidel, trebars do BRS (black rock sprite) rogueho vezmeme pokazdy radi, pac tam je to plny humanoidu a pak se sap osvedci. Taky je dobrej jako dmg dealer, tanka nepreagruje pokud to ten tank alespon trochu umi. Trebars vcera sme vicemene dali lahci cast DM (dire maul) ve 4 lidech, Megadeath byl s nama a muzu potvrdit ze i jako rogue se uplatnil. 5. clen byl/mnel byt druid kterej byl ovsem jednou pulkou nekde v oblacich ... :-)
Je to je muj subjektivny nazor na rogueho v grupe z pohledu warriora :-)
Hunter to ma 5 x tezsi ...
ja ti dam megadeatha ty jedna velka milko :)) |
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Kojot
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Posted - 07/04/2005 : 13:51:03
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| Sakra omlouvam se, nebyl to megadeath, byl to Mefisto samozrejme .. Sem si to nejak spletl :-) |
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Bearsson
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390 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 14:24:52
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Co tento build?
Subtlety Mastery
Master of Deception Rank 5
Camouflage Rank 5
Initiative Rank 5
Improved Sap Rank 3
Subtlety Total: 18
Combat Mastery
Improved Sinister Strike Rank 2
Combat Total: 2
Assassination Mastery
Improved Eviscerate Rank 3
Malice Rank 5
Ruthlessness Rank 3
Relentless Strikes Rank 1
Lethality Rank 5
Vile Poisons Rank 5
Improved Kidney Shot Rank 3
Cold Blood Rank 1
Seal Fate Rank 4
Vigor Rank 1
Assassination Total: 31
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Total Points Spent: 51
Level Required: 60 |
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MegaDeath
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1989 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 14:39:14
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vpohode, pak jen rekni jak se ti bojuje s magama a paladinama/shamanama
edit: uprimne me to zajima, taky bych si pozdeji rad zkusil seal fate build
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2005 : 17:26:42
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jinak ja mam tohle a v nejblizsi dobe to nehodlam menit
Class: Rogue
Level: 60
Assassination Talents (21 points)
# Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.
# Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.
# Murder - 2/2 points
Increases your chance to hit while using your Sap, Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot abilities by 5%.
# Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.
# Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.
# Lethality - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.
# Improved Expose Armor - 1/3 point
Increases the armor reduced by your Expose Armor ability by 15%.
# Cold Blood - 1/1 point
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.
Combat Talents (8 points)
# Improved Gouge - 3/3 points
Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5 seconds.
# Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5 Energy.
# Improved Backstab - 3/3 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 30%.
Subtlety Talents (22 points)
# Master of Deception - 5/5 points
Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode. More effective than Master of Deception (Rank 4)
# Opportunity - 5/5 points
Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Garrote, or Ambush abilities by 20%.
# Improved Ambush - 3/3 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 40%.
# Initiative - 4/5 points
Gives you a 60% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.
# Improved Sap - 3/3 points
Adds a 90% chance to return to stealth mode after using your Sap ability.
# Preparation - 1/1 point
When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.
# Improved Cheap Shot - 1/2 point
Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot ability by 10.
jinak jeste premejslim o presunu toho jednoho bodu s imp cheapshot do initiative .. uvidim jak se mi to zlevneni o 10 energy bude casem hodit .. zatim je to prima protoze po cs/bs stiham gougnout o 1 tik driv
ale zaujalo me zacatecni kombo
cs->vanish->ambush -> kdyz vyjde intiative ( proto ten presun bodiku ) clovek na to rovnou muze navazat 5ti bodovym CB eviscem |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 12/04/2005 : 17:33:10
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| imp cs nech, dovoli ti to udelat cs - ss - gauge - neboli funkcni stunlock |
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Roman76
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Posted - 12/04/2005 : 17:47:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Mamut
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Mark
Rogue je do instanci totalne k nicemu. Nedivim se ze rogue nemuze najit kloudnou partu do High lvl instanci.
Vemme si trebas BRD.. Se Sapem se tam rogue nechyta,protoze sou tam podelny psi ktery vas odhali na kilometry daleko{obrazne receno}
Rany tam dostava za 300+ cili toho moc nevydrzi. Jedina vyhoda je velkej DMG,jenze kdyz se na vas sesype vic mobu,je to v hajzlu.
MegaDeath:tjn,mas klasickej pvp rogue build>]
Me se zas libi Seal fate.
Já jako hunter to v instancích taky nemam lehký a nechcou mě
Neboj nic do MC te potreba bude pac ses jediny kdo muze specialnim shotem zmensit jednoho bossatora :o) a rogue je taky treba delaji sestriscky magum a priestum s bandazkama :o)
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WoW Warlock 60 http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?46791
WoW Shaman 60 http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?46454
WoW Hunter 49 http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?58849
WoW Warrior 56 http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?62193
WOW Rogue 60 http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?245956
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Tharn
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Posted - 12/04/2005 : 18:34:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Roman76
rogue je taky treba delaji sestriscky magum a priestum s bandazkama :o)
ROFL 
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2005 : 18:54:07
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
imp cs nech, dovoli ti to udelat cs - ss - gauge - neboli funkcni stunlock
vim o tom ... rikam ze to potrebuju vyzkouset, tzn. nerikam ze to bude lepsi nebo horsi ale ze tech 15% v intiative muze bejt to co warlocka zabije za 5 sekund :) |
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Lord Mark
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Posted - 13/04/2005 : 11:02:57
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
kdyz misto rogua vezmou warlocka, udelaj lip...
no jinak teda moje osobni zkusenost:
daggers sux - na normalni boj maj malou damage, na backstab zas relativne velkou cimz muzes preagrovat tanka
jediny co pouzivam v boji je trapnej sinister strike spam
eviscerate musis volit s rozmyslem, nekdy se hodi, nekdy se vylozene nehodi a proto mas rupture
improved sap je jedina vec cim muze rogue v instanci nejak prospet parte
vanish samozrejme vecne nefunguje
imp. gouge se mi taky hodi, predevsim sceny kdy jeden mob je mimo a bezi na castery, nejak ho zastavit musis a zase ho nemuzes tankovat, takhle ma tank 5.5sec na to aby ho prevzal nebo caster sheepnul
no a ted teda co za build: me nejvic vyhovuje mit preparation - dovoli mi to 2x pouzit evasion behem boje, 2x pouzit vanish, 2x pouzit Cold blood
dalsi vec je cold blood - nedokazu si predstavit rogua bez cb :)
ja mam potom jeste imp. ss a imp gouge
pokud ma nekdo nejaky jiny nazory a navrhy, sem s tim, nikomu to nenutim
Jeste dodam,ze build co tady kolega uvedl je asi nejhranejsi build spolu s combat rogue buildem..
A proc? protoze jsou ty buildy opravdu very efektive.
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Zivot je jen otazkou priorit.Jaka to vsak je?
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Roman76
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ozor
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Posted - 17/04/2005 : 20:48:21
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Snad jedina prinosna asistence Rogueho v Instanci je PickPocketing a Lockpicking
Pak je mozny naagrovat moba jako prvni a Feintem ji predat ostatnim už s mene HP ale chce to jejich trpelivost, failne Feint nastupuje Vanish (velkej cooldown i po upgrade). Na Sap se neda spolehat. Ruptura neuskodi nikdy ale je to jenom obyc damage. Obcas se v pripade prusvihu s manou a HP da prerusit utok blindem ale to vyzaduje disciplinu v Grupe (stop atack). Taky vhodna kombinace jedu muze znamenat podporu hlavne treba u magickejch mobu.
A jinak mas pravdu. Následujícím build kterej nejen podle mého názoru je dost univerzální a vystihuje snad jediné Rogueho pouzitelne agility se v Instanci osvedcis maximalne jako pomocny DD ale na PVP jsi hodne nebezpecny element (vlastní zkusenost  )
Build Rogue:
Assassination Talents (23 points)
Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.
Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.
Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.
Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.
Lethality - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.
Improved Instant Poison - 5/5 points
Increases the chance to apply Instant Poison to your target by 10%.
Cold Blood - 1/1 point
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.
Combat Talents (2 points)
Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5 Energy.
Subtlety Talents (26 points)
Master of Deception - 5/5 points
Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode.
More effective than Master of Deception (Rank 4)
Camouflage - 5/5 points
Increases your speed while stealthed by 15%.
Elusiveness - 4/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Evasion, Vanish, and Blind abilities by 1 minute.
Initiative - 5/5 points
Gives you a 75% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.
Ghostly Strike - 1/1 point
A strike that deals 125% weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 seconds. Awards 1 combo point.
Improved Sap - 3/3 points
Adds a 90% chance to return to stealth mode after using your Sap ability.
Improved Cheap Shot - 1/2 point
Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot ability by 10.
Preparation - 1/1 point
When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.
Hemorrhage - 1/1 point
An instant strike that damages the opponent and causes the target to hermorrhage, increasing any Physical damage dealt to the target by up to 3. Lasts 30 charges or 15 seconds. Awards 1 combo point.
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
kdyz misto rogua vezmou warlocka, udelaj lip...
no jinak teda moje osobni zkusenost:
daggers sux - na normalni boj maj malou damage, na backstab zas relativne velkou cimz muzes preagrovat tanka
jediny co pouzivam v boji je trapnej sinister strike spam
eviscerate musis volit s rozmyslem, nekdy se hodi, nekdy se vylozene nehodi a proto mas rupture
improved sap je jedina vec cim muze rogue v instanci nejak prospet parte
vanish samozrejme vecne nefunguje
imp. gouge se mi taky hodi, predevsim sceny kdy jeden mob je mimo a bezi na castery, nejak ho zastavit musis a zase ho nemuzes tankovat, takhle ma tank 5.5sec na to aby ho prevzal nebo caster sheepnul
no a ted teda co za build: me nejvic vyhovuje mit preparation - dovoli mi to 2x pouzit evasion behem boje, 2x pouzit vanish, 2x pouzit Cold blood
dalsi vec je cold blood - nedokazu si predstavit rogua bez cb :)
ja mam potom jeste imp. ss a imp gouge
pokud ma nekdo nejaky jiny nazory a navrhy, sem s tim, nikomu to nenutim
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 15:50:32
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zalezi na stylu jakym hrajes, ale osobne bych sebral 2 body treba z instant poisonu a dal je do imp. gouge nebo do Setupu - budes mit alespon nejakou (sice hodne malou) sanci generovat vic combo pointu, coz muze urychlit boj a i v instancich pouzivam double crippling - utikajici mob je realny nebezpeci
ja bych ty instant poisony zrusil uplne 
dal bych to do murder (chance to hit) a ten jeden bodik uz je jedno - treba imp. exp. armor
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Mefisto
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 16:18:35
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
zalezi na stylu jakym hrajes, ale osobne bych sebral 2 body treba z instant poisonu a dal je do imp. gouge nebo do Setupu - budes mit alespon nejakou (sice hodne malou) sanci generovat vic combo pointu, coz muze urychlit boj a i v instancich pouzivam double crippling - utikajici mob je realny nebezpeci
ja bych ty instant poisony zrusil uplne
dal bych to do murder (chance to hit) a ten jeden bodik uz je jedno - treba imp. exp. armor
zlodeje kterej by v instanci jen jednou pouzil imp expose armor bych kopnul do zadku a vyhodil z grupy |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 16:24:47
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Originally posted by Mefisto
zlodeje kterej by v instanci jen jednou pouzil imp expose armor bych kopnul do zadku a vyhodil z grupy
ten skill nema v popisce napsano "useable in instances only" |
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Mefisto
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Posted - 04/05/2005 : 00:01:27
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto
zlodeje kterej by v instanci jen jednou pouzil imp expose armor bych kopnul do zadku a vyhodil z grupy
ten skill nema v popisce napsano "useable in instances only"
ten skill ma napsano not usable in instances protoze bys tim branil sunderu warum
a ani to neni pouzitelny na solo, tam radsi stokrat hodim rupture nebo evisc
imho dokud se to nebude stackovat se sunderem je to k nicemu |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 04/05/2005 : 00:06:47
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| rupture je nekdy dobra vec, ale ne pokud chces v budoucnu pouzit gouge nebo blind... evisc proti plate armoru+stitu+defense stance udela ve vysledku mensi damage nez imp. expose armor |
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Mefisto
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Posted - 04/05/2005 : 16:55:42
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Originally posted by MegaDeath
rupture je nekdy dobra vec, ale ne pokud chces v budoucnu pouzit gouge nebo blind... evisc proti plate armoru+stitu+defense stance udela ve vysledku mensi damage nez imp. expose armor
ono to asi dost zalezi na buildu .. bez seal fate a s backstabem jako hlavnim generatiorem bodu je preci jen trochu slozitejsi ty body udelat ( ja vlastne hlavne body mam z restealth openeru )
a tak pak radsi pouziju kideny shot na temer cokoliv krom clotheru a druidu
imp expose sem pouzil parkrat a nikdy nebyl rozdil v dmg tak znatelny aby to pro me melo vetsi vyznam nez stun nebo prima/dot dmg |
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 04/05/2005 : 17:03:37
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| no jasny, ja jedu backstab se seal fate, tam mi ty CP naskakujou dost rychle |
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