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VT
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  09:00:21  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Konkretnejsi podoba nekterych novych druidich abilit z US test serveru:

Barkskin
186 mana
Instant cast
1 min cool down

The druids skin becomes as tough as bark. Physical damage taken is reduced by 20% while protected, damaging attacks will not cause spell casting delays but non-instant spells take 1 sec longer to cast and melee combat is slowed by 20%.

Lasts 15 sec.

Self only , do not get a target cursor


Ferocious bite
35 energy 9yd range
Instant
Requires cat form

Finishing move that causes damage per combo point and converts each extra point of energy into 2.0 additional damage

Damage
1 point : 170-200 damage
2 points : 295-345 damage
3 points : 420-470 damage
4 points : 545-595 damage
5 points : 670-720 damage


Frenzied regeneration
Instant 3 min cooldown
Requires bear form , Dire bear form

Converts up to 10 rage per second into health for 10 sec. Each point of rage is converted into 20 health.

MegaDeath
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  09:19:14  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
takze ten Ferocious bite je neco mezi eviscerate a execute, no pekny...
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VT
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  09:22:04  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

takze ten Ferocious bite je neco mezi eviscerate a execute, no pekny...



Nj, bude "mlatit" za celkem hodne :)

670-720 damage plus musis pripocitat zbyvajici energy, ktera se premenuje na damage (2 dmg per 1 energy; tedy v idealnim pripade 65x2). A samozrejme pripadny crit bude k nezaplaceni ...



Edited by - VT on 16/03/2005 09:24:12
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  09:25:16  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jj tohle kocka potrebovala - konecne bude to co slibovali ;)

od Barkskinu sem teda ale asi cekal vic....

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VT
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  09:42:42  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brutus

jj tohle kocka potrebovala - konecne bude to co slibovali ;)

od Barkskinu sem teda ale asi cekal vic....



Asi nechteli prilis 'nasrat' priesty. Proto je imho self.

Ale rozhodne pomuze, bo soucasné pres talenty specovane neprerusitelne healovani je pouze 60% a mne osobne prijde bugnuty. Neda se vubec srovnavat s tim co mam na shamanovy (tedy 75 procentni nepreruseni).

Pokud ma shaman zkraceny cooldown u Earth Shocku tak se i pod Barskinem nebudu moci healnout klasickym healem. Budu muset pouzit Regrowth nebo Tranquility (tady bude barskin uber!).

Edited by - VT on 16/03/2005 09:43:56
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Bal
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  11:21:13  Show Profile Send Bal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Taky se mi zda ze Natural Focus funguje spatne.Skoro co uder to mi prerusi heal kouzla,nezda se mi ze by to bylo 60%.Mate nekdo stejne zkusenosti?
Jinak Ferocious Bite se zda ze bude pekna abilitka,nevite od ktereho levelu bude pristupna?
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VT
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  11:22:04  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bal

Taky se mi zda ze Natural Focus funguje spatne.Skoro co uder to mi prerusi heal kouzla,nezda se mi ze by to bylo 60%.Mate nekdo stejne zkusenosti?



No ja :)

quote:

Jinak Ferocious Bite se zda ze bude pekna abilitka,nevite od ktereho levelu bude pristupna?



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Edited by - VT on 16/03/2005 11:24:42
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Mefisto
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  11:36:43  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Van Tassel

Konkretnejsi podoba nekterych novych druidich abilit z US test serveru:

Barkskin
186 mana
Instant cast
1 min cool down

The druids skin becomes as tough as bark. Physical damage taken is reduced by 20% while protected, damaging attacks will not cause spell casting delays but non-instant spells take 1 sec longer to cast and melee combat is slowed by 20%.

Lasts 15 sec.

Self only , do not get a target cursor


Ferocious bite
35 energy 9yd range
Instant
Requires cat form

Finishing move that causes damage per combo point and converts each extra point of energy into 2.0 additional damage

Damage
1 point : 170-200 damage
2 points : 295-345 damage
3 points : 420-470 damage
4 points : 545-595 damage
5 points : 670-720 damage


Frenzied regeneration
Instant 3 min cooldown
Requires bear form , Dire bear form

Converts up to 10 rage per second into health for 10 sec. Each point of rage is converted into 20 health.



stejne si nemuzu pomoct a druid mi prijde docela hustej :) char kterej muze tankovat v dungach v pripade potreby se demorfnout a nahodit si hot a zase morfnout ( druhej nejlepsi heal ve hre ) a regenovat manu kdyz mlati v cat nebo bear forme
ma stealth ma rooty, ma instant spell, ma instant travel forme ktera breakne rooty a zamezi poly
z tech veci co umi je na tom teoreticky lip jak shaman :) ta druidovska prizpusobivost me desi, kdybych nemel free action potiony tak me druid umlati az desive snadno
edit : samozrejme mluvim o druidovi kterej vi co dela :) spousta lidi hraje chary a vyuziva tak 10% jejich potencialu

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Edited by - Mefisto on 16/03/2005 11:37:54
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VT
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  11:40:51  Show Profile Send VT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto
stejne si nemuzu pomoct a druid mi prijde docela hustej :) char kterej muze tankovat v dungach v pripade potreby se demorfnout a nahodit si hot a zase morfnout ( druhej nejlepsi heal ve hre ) a regenovat manu kdyz mlati v cat nebo bear forme
ma stealth ma rooty, ma instant spell, ma instant travel forme ktera breakne rooty a zamezi poly



Jo a proto ho hraje skoro nejmenne lidi :) (napr. na horde ShM uplne nejmenne; videl jsem asi dva nebo tri jine druidy za tech par dni co ho hraju :)
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kotte
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  12:44:03  Show Profile Send kotte a Private Message  Reply with Quote
koukam, ze VT mel cich na class ktera byla lehce gimpla a blizzard ji to dodatecne vynahradil, ted ta hromada horde hracu odlozi k ledu shamany a vrhne se hrat druhej char druida :)... za sebe(za maga) sem zvedavy na souboje 1vs1, uz takhle to neni pro me zadny med .) ... jinak i na aliancni strane druidu neni moc, mnozstvim lidi je to srovnatelne i s nejmene hranym warlockem(podle censusu)...
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beldor5
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  18:33:42  Show Profile  Send beldor5 an ICQ Message Send beldor5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mno to pochybuju ,z dosavadni skusenosti muzu rict ze druid je VELMI zabavny class ,snad nejzabavnejsi ze vsech, protoze muzete hrat prakticky vsemi styly(rogue,healer,tank,mage) a diky instant travelforme,instahealu,innervate,rootu toho prezije opravdu hodne, na druhoustranu mu schazi jedna dulezita vec a tou je dmg.Proste rogue s dobryma zbranema da o 40% dmg vice nez ja(v jakekoliv forme) hlavne na lvl 40+ je to dost markantni.uplne me nervuje jak si ve feralesu kiluju vlky -2 lvl a za chvili prijde saman na stejnem levlu a zacne si je davat 2x rychleji nez ja...no comment.

k novym abilitam:celkem pekne jen nejak nechapu pouzitelnost energy->dmg u fer.bite , podle toho prevodu dosahnu vetsi dmg kdyz hodim bite hned na 35enrg. a radsi hodim za dalsich 40-45en claw

+bude fungovat barskin pri reshiftu??

Edit: + to se ta fren. regenerace nebude s levlem zvysovat??? na lvl 60 s 6k. hp v medovi mi nejakejch +2k. hp za 100rage prijde smesne....

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Edited by - beldor5 on 16/03/2005 19:24:01
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Cotouch
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  20:53:15  Show Profile  Send Cotouch an ICQ Message Send Cotouch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
druid na nižších lvlech je už teď naprosto super, v 1v1 mě na srovnatelnym lvlu snad ještě nikdo nedal, když mam kliku tak dam i o několik lvlů vejš, ale jak tak koukam na ability list tak mi přijde že to bude postupně slábnout, teď jedu dost meelee bez morfu a je to výborný, ale bojim se, že po 40cte to bude stát za prd, no uvidíme

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cracky
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Posted - 16/03/2005 :  21:06:45  Show Profile  Send cracky an ICQ Message Send cracky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto

quote:
Originally posted by Van Tassel

Konkretnejsi podoba nekterych novych druidich abilit z US test serveru:

Barkskin
186 mana
Instant cast
1 min cool down

The druids skin becomes as tough as bark. Physical damage taken is reduced by 20% while protected, damaging attacks will not cause spell casting delays but non-instant spells take 1 sec longer to cast and melee combat is slowed by 20%.

Lasts 15 sec.

Self only , do not get a target cursor


Ferocious bite
35 energy 9yd range
Instant
Requires cat form

Finishing move that causes damage per combo point and converts each extra point of energy into 2.0 additional damage

Damage
1 point : 170-200 damage
2 points : 295-345 damage
3 points : 420-470 damage
4 points : 545-595 damage
5 points : 670-720 damage


Frenzied regeneration
Instant 3 min cooldown
Requires bear form , Dire bear form

Converts up to 10 rage per second into health for 10 sec. Each point of rage is converted into 20 health.



stejne si nemuzu pomoct a druid mi prijde docela hustej :) char kterej muze tankovat v dungach v pripade potreby se demorfnout a nahodit si hot a zase morfnout ( druhej nejlepsi heal ve hre ) a regenovat manu kdyz mlati v cat nebo bear forme
ma stealth ma rooty, ma instant spell, ma instant travel forme ktera breakne rooty a zamezi poly
z tech veci co umi je na tom teoreticky lip jak shaman :) ta druidovska prizpusobivost me desi, kdybych nemel free action potiony tak me druid umlati az desive snadno
edit : samozrejme mluvim o druidovi kterej vi co dela :) spousta lidi hraje chary a vyuziva tak 10% jejich potencialu



jeste si zapomel stunt, ten pouzivam hodne pri pvp :) jinak druid je pecka, hral sem ho v bete hraju ho i v ostry a nemuzu si stezovat, ba naopak s tim co pise VT to oblibinej kocicak bude dobrej dmger

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Narmo
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Posted - 22/03/2005 :  04:23:47  Show Profile  Send Narmo an ICQ Message Send Narmo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
barskin me trosku zklamal , zato Frenzied regeneration vypada dobre , hodici se pro meho druida restoration(31)-Feral bear(7)-balance(rest) ...

btw. druida mam rad mimo jine prave proto, ze ho hraje nejmene lidi

Edited by - Narmo on 22/03/2005 04:27:47
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Rashaverak
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Posted - 22/03/2005 :  08:58:20  Show Profile  Send Rashaverak an ICQ Message Send Rashaverak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Narmo

barskin me trosku zklamal , zato Frenzied regeneration vypada dobre , hodici se pro meho druida restoration(31)-Feral bear(7)-balance(rest) ...

btw. druida mam rad mimo jine prave proto, ze ho hraje nejmene lidi



me ani tak neprijde ze by druida hralo malo lidi, pravda 90% meho pvp je proti elfum rogue o 20 levlu vys kteri jeste utoci kdyz mam 10% po nejaky potvore ale ten zbytek jsou povtsinou druidi. V Thunder bluffu mezi taurenama je taky vetsina druidu. Alespon co potkavam ja. Mluvim o Shadow Moonu btw

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Posted - 22/03/2005 :  09:33:28  Show Profile  Send brutus an ICQ Message Send brutus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Druid dostane v patchi nejvetsi love = zacina ho hrat spousta lidi - na low levelech v TB uz nejsou skoro zadny shamanove, zato samej druid (pred mesicem to bylo presne naopak ;)

Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE!
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Posted - 22/03/2005 :  11:17:48  Show Profile  Send Stilgar an ICQ Message Send Stilgar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nakyho power rangera hrat nebudu ...

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Posted - 22/03/2005 :  13:51:32  Show Profile  Send Colldor an ICQ Message Send Colldor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja snad mam rasa/povolani kterou hraje asi opravdu nejmin lidi :) a sem rad ...

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beldor5
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Posted - 22/03/2005 :  19:36:28  Show Profile  Send beldor5 an ICQ Message Send beldor5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mno nevim ja vcera odpoledne prosel lidi co byli v orgrimaru a krome me tam byli jenom dalsi dva druidi(ze 100 lidi).:)...nejakej velkej naval se kazdopadne urcite nekona(sami shamani a warove)

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Soli
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Posted - 25/03/2005 :  09:21:29  Show Profile Send Soli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nj ale do instance si vemes za main healera druida nebo priesta? Za main tanka vemes druida nebo warra? Muze hrat ve vsem tak maximalne druhy husle.
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BlackSource
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Posted - 25/03/2005 :  12:29:50  Show Profile Send BlackSource a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Me fascinuje jak se vzdycky najde nekdo, kdo jako nejvetsi machr na vsechno napise, ze druid je jako tank horsi nez warr a jako healer horsi nez priest. No a? O tom to fakt chlapci neni :-) Druid se nehraje tak, ze si pri vytvoreni charakteru urcite, ze budete healer nebo tank nebo pujdete cestou polorogua, tak se trochu zamyslete nez zase nekde budete placat tyhle pitomosti. Sila druida je prave v tom, ze muze ve velmi kratke dobe zastavat celkem slusne vsechny tyto ulohy a o tom to je, v tom je sila. Ne v jedne urcite podobe. Mimochodem uz mnohokrat jsem zazil, ze druid toho ulecil daleko, daleko vic nez priest, ale je fakt, ze to uz je asi o urvni hrace. Kazdopadne prosim uz nepiste takove nesmysly, ktere jsem uvedl vyse, jsou naprosto mimo misu.

Jinak zazil jsem grupu se 4mi druidy a magem a byla naprosto neporazitelna. Vzdycky kdyz nekomu dochazela mana tak se preshiftnul do tanka, druhy se odshiftnul a zacal healovat, proste masakr :-))
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CabA
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Posted - 26/03/2005 :  22:30:22  Show Profile  Send CabA an ICQ Message Send CabA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
co kdo s druidem hrajete ? balance/feral/rest ?
mam level 42 zatim jedu vse do feral krome 5 bodu do Mark of the Wild a nejsem s tim nak extra spokojenej, gear mam silu a +attack power


Frenzied regeneration je naprosto super, kdezto Ferocious bite (mam Rank 2) me zatim pride jako dost trapna zalezitost standardne s ni dam tak 250 dmg (5/5 combo points) coz je docela ubohy.


Torrek ::: tauren shaman ::: officer of Black division ::: Drak'thul
Runningwild ::: night elf druid ::: Supreme ::: Frostmane
Runningfree ::: dwarf paladin ::: Supreme ::: Frostmane

Edited by - CabA on 26/03/2005 22:31:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Soli

Nj ale do instance si vemes za main healera druida nebo priesta? Za main tanka vemes druida nebo warra? Muze hrat ve vsem tak maximalne druhy husle.



ve vsem druhe housle hraje predevsim Shaman ... druid je trochu o necem jinem (IMO)

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Rashaverak
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Posted - 27/03/2005 :  11:42:59  Show Profile  Send Rashaverak an ICQ Message Send Rashaverak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CabA

co kdo s druidem hrajete ? balance/feral/rest ?
mam level 42 zatim jedu vse do feral krome 5 bodu do Mark of the Wild a nejsem s tim nak extra spokojenej, gear mam silu a +attack power


Frenzied regeneration je naprosto super, kdezto Ferocious bite (mam Rank 2) me zatim pride jako dost trapna zalezitost standardne s ni dam tak 250 dmg (5/5 combo points) coz je docela ubohy.





no ja zkousim vsadit spis na restoration, ale nejak moc jsem neprocital fora co rikaj lidi, podle toho je asi nejlepsi se ridit, nicmene s restoration jsem spookojen, predevsim tech 60% sance ze zasah ti neprerusi heal a pak tusim kdyz investujes 21 bodu tak dostanes instant heal, coz sice jeste nemam protoze jsem si ty ability vsimnul az pozdeji a dal jsem par bodiku do fear ale teoreticky by to melo byt velmi usefull

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beldor5
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Posted - 27/03/2005 :  12:17:13  Show Profile  Send beldor5 an ICQ Message Send beldor5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tak jsem otestoval nove ability:
50 druid.

1)barskin- super na PvP , solo expovani jako mag nebo healing v instancich.tady se blizardi vytahli,15sec je sice trosku malo,ale celkove je to dobra abilita.

2)F.Bite- Dost slaby ucinek(redukovany AR) rip je stale o 30% lepsi, vyplati se jen na vypotrebovani CP na konci souboje,+avizovane navyseni sily kocky na lvl 40-60 jsem nejak nepostrehl,je stale hodne slaba + prelevani 1 energy = 1.5(2)dmg je smesne :)) kdyz 40 energy je u me 100dmg pres claw.

3)F.regen. -Proste ja mam ve feral. brncu v medovi(na lvl 50) 4040hp(jen s MotW) a predstava ze dam 100rage za +1500hp. me opravdu nijak nelaka.To ji radsi pouziju pres mauly cimz si zvysim utocnou silu cca o 40%.Mozna v nekterych situacich se bude hodit,ale jinak je to celkem na nic..:(

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CabA
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Posted - 27/03/2005 :  13:33:50  Show Profile  Send CabA an ICQ Message Send CabA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
instatn heal muze dobrej, jeste jsem to nikdy nezkousel pac jsem feral, ale stejne me prijde ten instant : Nature's Swiftness + 1 kouzlo instant s 3 min cooldownem jako nic extra, jo takhle kdyby NS fungoval jako buff treba 1 min a po tu dobu bylo vse instant :))) to potom joooo

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3)F.regen. -Proste ja mam ve feral. brncu v medovi(na lvl 50) 4040hp(jen s MotW) a predstava ze dam 100rage za +1500hp. me opravdu nijak nelaka.To ji radsi pouziju pres mauly cimz si zvysim utocnou silu cca o 40%.Mozna v nekterych situacich se bude hodit,ale jinak je to celkem na nic..:(




no me pride F-regen zatim super mam kolem 2500 HP na 42 lvl takze me to pride slusny navic rage se generuje aspon me to tak pride docela rychleji takze todle me natrapi


o co se tyka dps kocky tak jsem taky zadnou zmenu k lepsimu nezaregistroval

Torrek ::: tauren shaman ::: officer of Black division ::: Drak'thul
Runningwild ::: night elf druid ::: Supreme ::: Frostmane
Runningfree ::: dwarf paladin ::: Supreme ::: Frostmane

Edited by - CabA on 27/03/2005 13:34:43
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Rashaverak
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Posted - 27/03/2005 :  14:42:28  Show Profile  Send Rashaverak an ICQ Message Send Rashaverak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CabA

instatn heal muze dobrej, jeste jsem to nikdy nezkousel pac jsem feral, ale stejne me prijde ten instant : Nature's Swiftness + 1 kouzlo instant s 3 min cooldownem jako nic extra, jo takhle kdyby NS fungoval jako buff treba 1 min a po tu dobu bylo vse instant :))) to potom joooo



neblazni kdybys mel minutu vsecka kouzla instant tak by to byla ultimatni postava. me to prijde hodne usefull, muze to samo o sobe vyhrat spoustu pvp souboju


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CabA
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Posted - 27/03/2005 :  15:17:45  Show Profile  Send CabA an ICQ Message Send CabA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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neblazni kdybys mel minutu vsecka kouzla instant tak by to byla ultimatni postava. me to prijde hodne usefull, muze to samo o sobe vyhrat spoustu pvp souboju



je me jasny ze by to bylo pak hoodne silny tak treba jen 15 sec :) nebo udelat ten cooldown NS ze 3 min na 1 min, prece jenom druid i kdyz ho clovek hrat umi tak ve vsem zaostava, sice moznost kombinace vsech ostatnich povolani je supr a usefull ale chtelo by to neco v cem by byl druid BEST, a takovej fullinstant cast...

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Runningwild ::: night elf druid ::: Supreme ::: Frostmane
Runningfree ::: dwarf paladin ::: Supreme ::: Frostmane
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Posted - 27/03/2005 :  18:04:25  Show Profile  Send beldor5 an ICQ Message Send beldor5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NS je i v tedle podobe nejlepsi tallent po innervate , i kdyz se mi zda ze s pokracujici dobou se efektivita innervate nejak nezvysuje,vim ze je to zavisle na spirit ,ale na levlu 41 me to pridavalo cca 1600 many a na lvl 50 mi to pridava 1900 many kdyz mam v int obleceni 4200+ uz to zdaleka neni tak efektivni..(ale stale nejlepsi)

+hehe, normalne jsem prisel na to ze Barskin misto aby spomaloval utok o 20%, utok o 20% zrychluje ,peknej bug(uz jsem to nahlasil GM)

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