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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
 Posted - 08/02/2005 : 22:28:32
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
vsichni behaj stejne rychle a vyskocej vsichni stejne vysoko
vysvetlovat to je jak hazet tenisak o betonovou zed a doufat ze prolitne ;) |
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Colldor
Gimp
2165 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2005 : 22:47:08
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| Co troll warr ? tech 10% regenerace v boji je znat ? + navic berserk ktery te zrychly utok vo 20% ... nevim, me se tohle zda jako nejlepsi racial bonusy pro warra :) |
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Edited by - Colldor on 08/02/2005 22:47:53 |
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Marigold
Senior Member
3590 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2005 : 00:06:45
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| Všimni si kolik regeneruješ mimo boj, poděl to desíti a zjistíš jestli to má vůbec cenu... |
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Prandur
New Member
237 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2005 : 00:26:02
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Originally posted by Marigold
Všimni si kolik regeneruješ mimo boj, poděl to desíti a zjistíš jestli to má vůbec cenu...
Regenerace se stava horsi a horsi s tim jak se leveluje. Duvody:
1) Spirit se nezvysuje tak jak pocet hp. Neverim ze by nejakej war byl dost prastenej na to specializovat se na spirit 
2) Efekt spirit se snizuje s tim jak ho pribyva.
Obecne bych talenty rozlisoval na 2 druhy:
1) Pres cas se zhorsuji (bonusy k regeneraci, pevny bonus k attack power, atd.)
2) Pres cas zustavaji stejne dobre, pripadne se dokonce zlepsuji (+% na crit chance, +% na damage, % na stun, zrychleni casting speed atd.)
Nejlepsi je z dlouhodobeho hlediska vyhnout se talentum 1. typu a snazit se brat jen talenty 2. typu. |
Prandur,
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Shigi
New Member
165 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2005 : 16:46:30
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TO PRANDUR : Taky si myslíš, že je krvácení na nic? Jeho damage se zvedá na max až s posld. levelem, navazuje na critické udery, má psychologický efekt- Já si myslím, že 3b do rage, nejsou jen nutným zlem, ale užitečným počinem |
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Shigi
New Member
165 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2005 : 16:48:03
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quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
vsichni behaj stejne rychle a vyskocej vsichni stejne vysoko
vysvetlovat to je jak hazet tenisak o betonovou zed a doufat ze prolitne ;)
 OK, asi jste to hráli dýl než já, tak mi nezbýva než vám věřitUž toho nechám! |
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Warlord
Junior Member
892 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2005 : 10:47:28
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| no tak ja sem si udelal takovejhle template |
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Khandar
New Member
352 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2005 : 13:02:36
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ja si zatim vypotil tento:
edit: smazano.. byl to testovaci gimp build |
so... |
Edited by - Khandar on 06/04/2005 16:37:30 |
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Warlord
Junior Member
892 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2005 : 13:22:23
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| pokud to pak pujde dal s levelama, dam si deset bodu do protection na inc defense +10 a nasledne to pod tim +10% armor, na vyssich levelech uz to ma imho smysl, kdyz ma treba clovek ar 4000 coz warrove na lvl 60 maj, tak k tomu dostanes dalsich 400ar "zdarma" :-) |
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Colldor
Gimp
2165 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2005 : 13:35:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Marigold
Všimni si kolik regeneruješ mimo boj, poděl to desíti a zjistíš jestli to má vůbec cenu...
No ted jsem to trochu prozkoumal ...
Blood Craze + troll regen + 2x lifestone znamena kolem 45hp/tick na levelu 60. Coz my zas tak spatny nepride, kdyz si uvedomis ze kolikrat je rozdil mezi vyhrou a smrti 30 - 40 hp :)
Neni to vubec uber, ale i tak ... holt nejaky hp navic. |
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Warlord
Junior Member
892 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2005 : 13:38:21
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Originally posted by Colldor
No ted jsem to trochu prozkoumal ...
Blood Craze + troll regen + 2x lifestone znamena kolem 45hp/tick na levelu 60. Coz my zas tak spatny nepride, kdyz si uvedomis ze kolikrat je rozdil mezi vyhrou a smrti 30 - 40 hp :)
jo to je ale na levelu +-20, na levelu 60 to tak uz nebude |
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Colldor
Gimp
2165 Posts |
Posted - 17/02/2005 : 14:07:39
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Build ktery asi pojedu je:
Arms Talents (31 points)
# Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.
# Improved Heroic Strike - 3/3 points
Reduces the cost of your Heroic Strike ability by 3 rage points.
# Tactical Mastery - 5/5 points
You retain up to 25 of your rage points when you change stances.
# Improved Charge - 2/2 points
Increases the rage generated by your Charge ability by 6.
# Anger Management - 1/1 point
Increases the time required for your Rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.
# Improved Overpower - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.
# Two-Handed Weapon Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases the damage you deal with two-handed weapons melee weapons by 5%.
# Axe Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Axes by 5%.
# Sweeping Strikes - 1/1 point
You next 5 melee weapon swings strike an additional nearby opponent.
# Improved Hamstring - 1/2 point
Increases the movement slow effect of your Hamstring ability by 10%.
# Mortal Strike - 1/1 point
A vicious strike that deals 200% weapon damage and wounds the target, reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 50% for 10 seconds.
Fury Talents (20 points)
# Cruelty - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.
# Booming Voice - 1/5 point
Increases the duration of your Battle Shout and Demoralizing Shout by 10%.
# Improved Demoralizing Shout - 5/5 points
Increases the attack power reduction of your Demoralizing Shout by 25%.
# Blood Craze - 3/3 points
Allows 15% of your Health regeneration to work during combat for 20 seconds after being the victim of a critical strike.
# Piercing Howl - 1/1 point
Causes all enemies near the warrior to be dazed for 6 seconds.
# Enrage - 5/5 points
Gives you a 40% melee damage bonus for 4 swings any time you are the victim of a critical strike.
Protection Talents (0 points)
# None
EDIT: Maximalne zmenim nejaky drobnosty jako misto spec. na 2h axe, vemu 2h mece atd. ale to uvidim casem ... kostra je stejna. |
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Edited by - Colldor on 17/02/2005 14:10:30 |
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Noztra
New Member
300 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2005 : 15:20:17
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| Osobne to moc neresim, na lvl 56+ stejne vidim jako jedinou moznost reset na 5 bodu v Arms na Deflection, par bodu do Fury potrebnych na Piercing Howl a zbytek Protection. |
http://motion.parba.cz |
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Noztra
New Member
300 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2005 : 15:23:11
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| Jeste abych to doplnil ... je to proto, ze jsem si udelal warriora primarne pro guildu, tzn. je to (bude to) tank do high end instanci. Chtel jsem i ciste Arms/Fury, ktery by nebyl tanker ale PvP, treba si ho nekdy rozjedu, ale zatim jsem si pro ucely PvP rozjel radeji arcane/fire maga, shadow priesta a ambush rogue ... |
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Shemiramoth
Moderator
4339 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2005 : 15:34:57
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Muj template pro DW warriora (axe - main,offhand). Hodne jsem ho prekopal a netvrdim, ze se to nezmeni. Prvne musim vyzkouset efektivitu v PvP, protoze Dual Wield.
Class: Warrior
Level: 60
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Arms Talents (31 points)
Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.
Improved Rend - 3/3 points
Increases the bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.
Improved Charge - 2/2 points
Increases the rage generated by your Charge ability by 6.
Tactical Mastery - 5/5 points
You retain up to 25 of your rage points when you change stances.
Improved Overpower - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.
Anger Management - 1/1 point
Increases the time required for your Rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.
Deep Wounds - 3/3 points
Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 seconds.
Impale - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike damage done by your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.
Axe Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Axes by 5%.
Sweeping Strikes - 1/1 point
You next 5 melee weapon swings strike an additional nearby opponent.
Improved Hamstring - 1/2 point
Increases the movement slow effect of your Hamstring ability by 10%.
Mortal Strike - 1/1 point
A vicious strike that deals 200% weapon damage and wounds the target, reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 50% for 10 seconds.
Fury Talents (20 points)
Cruelty - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.
Booming Voice - 5/5 points
Increases the duration of your Battle Shout and Demoralizing Shout by 50%.
Improved Demoralizing Shout - 5/5 points
Increases the attack power reduction of your Demoralizing Shout by 25%.
Enrage - 5/5 points
Gives you a 40% melee damage bonus for 4 swings any time you are the victim of a critical strike.
Protection Talents (0 points)
None
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Khandar
New Member
352 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2005 : 16:32:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Noztra
Jeste abych to doplnil ... je to proto, ze jsem si udelal warriora primarne pro guildu, tzn. je to (bude to) tank do high end instanci. Chtel jsem i ciste Arms/Fury, ktery by nebyl tanker ale PvP, treba si ho nekdy rozjedu, ale zatim jsem si pro ucely PvP rozjel radeji arcane/fire maga, shadow priesta a ambush rogue ...
Tankovat high lvl instance jde i zerkem s critt buildem a prekvapime mnohem efektivneji nez jako defense warr... mluvim o BRD,LBRS,Scholo,Strath az v UBRS a MC (teday raid instance)se to obraci ve prospech deffenz tanka.  |
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Warlord
Junior Member
892 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 09:36:52
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eh, sem to vcera zapomnel odeslat, snad to uz nekdo nenapsal :)
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skoda ze talenty nejdou porad prehazovat treba za 10g... kdyby clovek sel do raid instance, prehazel by si talenty na defense, az by vylezl zase by si je hodil na normal... |
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Noztra
New Member
300 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 11:38:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Warlord
eh, sem to vcera zapomnel odeslat, snad to uz nekdo nenapsal :)
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skoda ze talenty nejdou porad prehazovat treba za 10g... kdyby clovek sel do raid instance, prehazel by si talenty na defense, az by vylezl zase by si je hodil na normal...
Mozna prave proto stoji az 50g ;) |
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Warlord
Junior Member
892 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 11:43:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Noztra
Mozna prave proto stoji az 50g ;)
mno vsak me je to jasny, kdyz se clovek na tim zamysli, je to nesmysl... kdyz mas na neco talent, tak to mas proste na danou vec a basta :) treba ja nemam talent na nic (in RL) a proste to nezmenim a ted vazne: kdyz se vziju do sitruace takovyho vyvojare wow, tak mi vstavaji vlasy hruzou pri predstave, ze by si kazdy menil talenty podle toho, co zrovna chce delat  |
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Seth
Senior Member
2564 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 12:15:08
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ty ceny by meli rust do vyssich castek, protoze takhle za chvili opravdu bude kazdej respecovat co tyden
EDIT jeste k warrovi - nevyplati se investovat blbych 5 bodiku i pri Arms/Fury buildu do skillu v prot, ktery zveda Defense o 10? - je to defakto jako kdybyste byli o 2 lvl vys, coz se odrazi v miss rate a tim padem i v dmg, kterou chytnete...5 budu imho za to stoji |
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Warlord
Junior Member
892 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 12:42:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Seth
EDIT jeste k warrovi - nevyplati se investovat blbych 5 bodiku i pri Arms/Fury buildu do skillu v prot, ktery zveda Defense o 10? - je to defakto jako kdybyste byli o 2 lvl vys, coz se odrazi v miss rate a tim padem i v dmg, kterou chytnete...5 budu imho za to stoji
to uz by se pak i hodil ten talent co ti prida 10% armoru ze vseho... bych nemel ted 4700 ale 5170... to se taky hodi ne? k tomu nejaka flaska a a mam 5500 :) ...porad je neco, co by se hodilo... |
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Shemiramoth
Moderator
4339 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 13:30:02
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Pokud jsem to dobre pochopil, tak vyssi defence = souper ma nizsi sanci na zasah, vyssi armor = mensi dmg.
Jenze u +10 defence jsem nespozoroval zadny rozdil.
http://www.worldofwar.net/guides/damagereduction.php - vypocet dmg reduction pri nejake vysi armoru.
Btw dalsich 500armoru imho nema taky zadny vyznam. U paladina to ma vyhodu v tom, ze je to aura, ktera funguje na vsechny. Jinak je to taky na nic. |
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Seth
Senior Member
2564 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 13:34:27
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| prave 10 defense jsou 2 lvl...to by MOHLO hrat roli pri fajtu 60 vs 62 |
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Bearsson
New Member
390 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 13:34:55
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quote:
Originally posted by Seth
ty ceny by meli rust do vyssich castek, protoze takhle za chvili opravdu bude kazdej respecovat co tyden
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Neni respec omezeny na pocet, tusim 5x celkem? |
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Seth
Senior Member
2564 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 14:06:10
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| nene, respacovat muzes furt, potom uz jen kazdy respec stoji 50g |
Seth
Forgotten
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Deimos
New Member
440 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 14:17:36
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+10 defence neni rozdil 2 levlu.
estli bude zaujem tak vam dam linky na zvorce z US for
ale je to zhruba 1% na parry a 1% na block za kazdych 25 do defencu na lvl 60.
takze 10 do defencu prida (warrovi zo stitom ) 0.4% asncu na block a o,4% sancu na parry.
bohuzel jenom tolik |
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Roman76
New Member
129 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 14:25:03
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
to uz mluvis o grupa vs grupa, na 1v1 je imho rage potion sebevrazda
srovnavat tank a rogue? ten tank ma x krat vetsi missrate nez top rogue a nema v rukavu veci jako stun lock
warrior ma na 100% misto ve skupine, opravdu vydrzi na strane hordy nejvic, ale pvp killer z nej zatim neni
Ale ale jak to tady ctu uz od zacatku tak mam fakt pocit ze jste jeste nepotkali zadneho warriora s dobrym naradim buildnuteho na PvP.
Ja jsem nejaky ten patek mozna i mesic lvl 60 shaman a dobry warrior me da celkem napohodu teprve ted se ukazuje zkusenosti hracu a ze to zase tak nevyrovnane nebude ty charactery kde jsou ty casy kdy se o shamanovi rikalo ze je overpower haha to uz neni pravda dobry rogue te da stejne tak i warrior stejne tak i warlock.
V zadnem pripade warrior neni nerfnuty jak porad mnozi trvdi navic tedko to vylepseni executu je parada jak misnes.
Navic pokud jedes Arms tak Rend neni onicem pac ho potrebujes na Impale a pokud se speckujes na PvP tak to budes potrebovat jinak muzes rovnou ficet protection a s PvP se ani nezatezovat :o) |
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MegaDeath
Average Member
1989 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 14:51:05
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| ze warrior porazil shamana, neni to tim, ze hral vyrazne lip nez ty? |
Edited by - MegaDeath on 07/04/2005 14:51:16 |
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Roman76
New Member
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Posted - 08/04/2005 : 03:11:28
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath
ze warrior porazil shamana, neni to tim, ze hral vyrazne lip nez ty?
Nemyslim si s nekteryma warosema problem nemam to jsou ti warriori kteri jedou na protection ale s warosem ktery jede arms a fury je to hnus pokud ma arcanite reaper tak ti da zakourit rychlejc jako rogue :o) si to spocitej delaji me prumerne 400-550 hit critic over 1k pak te zacne strajkovat tou srackou co ti snizuje healing o 50% a ses v riti jak bata z drevakama protoze to co dohylujes ti v zapeti zase sebere seknutim navic mam celkem solidni zbroj a hp mam 3600 a war 4800+ jednoruzkou ho lechtas na koulich takze zadny damage a shock spellu by jsi musel hodit 9-12 aby jsi ho usmikal :o)) coz znamena 1min + :o) za tu dobu ses amen jiz za 15 sec se musis healovat haha proto jsem si taky rozjel warriora a shaman na mem levelu nebo o 2 vise nema sanci jenom nadavaji jak je to kurva mozne z dobrym rogue jsem na tom 50/50 a to musi mit jeste hodne dobre vychytany stun lock nebo jak tomu rikate jinak ho rosekam ajcvaj .. ono totiz na mem lvl 36 nekomu delat 500-700 critical jde hodne poznat.
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Seth
Senior Member
2564 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2005 : 09:51:34
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mno po tech par filmikach, co tady maji na foru odkazy se mi warr taky nezda nejaky prizdisrac
ti manici vedeli co delaji a umeli toho kurva vyuzit a s peckama, jak pise Roman, za 500, crit za 1k je to opravdu masakr
edit: hrubka :( |
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MegaDeath
Average Member
1989 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2005 : 09:56:31
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| nikdo si do videa neda, jak ho nekdo sejme... |
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Deimos
New Member
440 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2005 : 10:43:04
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problem warra je v tom ze aby bol takato praci masina , tak to clovek
a/ musi umet bo dobre zahraty warr je umeni
b/ musi to byt 31/20 arms/furry warr (fury spec je o poznani horsi a prot spec se nechyta)
c/ musi mit HODNE dobrou vybavu. takze fakt spousta casu stravenych v instancich, atd..... na city nemuzes spoluhat pokud nemas aspon 30% crit chance, je zavisly na potionech (free action) bandazich atd...
ale pokud se tohle skloubi dokupy tak je to Zitni mlatecka a beda nekomu komu se dostane na kozich. |
Who is General Failure?
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Colldor
Gimp
2165 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2005 : 11:25:56
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| Roman> pokud rikas ze te lvl 60 warr zabije jako lvl 60 shaman tak by se tim fakt nechlubil a sel to trochu procvicit aby hral lip ... protoze je to celkem ostuda. |
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Colldor
Gimp
2165 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2005 : 12:29:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Seth
mno po tech par filmikach, co tady maji na foru odkazy se mi warr taky nezda nejaky prizdisrac
ti manici vedeli co delaji a umeli toho kurva vyuzit a s peckama, jak pise Roman, za 500, crit za 1k je to opravdu masakr
edit: hrubka :(
Vetsina tech filmecku je z doby pred nerfem warra ( nurfed kill vidoes - indalamar, Bucho for teh win atd. )
Ted je situace trochu jina ... ale to je jedno, kdyz umis hrat warr je kosa jako svine. |
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Son-Draken
New Member
165 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2005 : 13:01:54
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Originally posted by Colldor
Roman> pokud rikas ze te lvl 60 warr zabije jako lvl 60 shaman tak by se tim fakt nechlubil a sel to trochu procvicit aby hral lip ... protoze je to celkem ostuda.
Colldore kdyz todle tvrdis tak uz si za wara 60lvl v top eqvipu hral?nebo jen tak chrastíš slamou dovětru? bo pokud bys ho hral todle nemuzes vživotě napsat (nebo si byl zanej lum)
shami muze svacit wary do nakyho 40 lvl jak nic ale pak uz se to obraci jen ve prospech spec. crit. wara.. |
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Roman76
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Posted - 08/04/2005 : 16:24:53
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Originally posted by Colldor
Roman> pokud rikas ze te lvl 60 warr zabije jako lvl 60 shaman tak by se tim fakt nechlubil a sel to trochu procvicit aby hral lip ... protoze je to celkem ostuda.
Nevim co ti na to mam rict :o) ale pokud ses taky shaman 60 a delas s warriorem duel a vzdy vyhrajes tak to znamena ze jsi jeste nepotkal dobreho wara ktery by ti dal zakourit.
15 sekud je opravdu kratka doba na to aby shaman dostal warra na low HP ale war tebe dostane za tech 15 sec na 20-30 % HP coz uz je criticke a zacina to smrdet executem.
No jak potkas dobreho wara budes mluvit jinak.
Kdyby bylo kde umistit video nadelal by jsem duel videa s temato manikama mohl by jsi sam posoudit kde je zrada.
Takove finty jako ze mu hodis spomalovaci klacek pod nohy a pak ho mrazakujes shockama tak to snad ani nebudu komentovat pac ten kdo se tahle necha od shamana usmikat je totalni mofo ktery to neumi s warrem.
Edit: Jeste jsem zapomel rict ze pokud je war specnuty na criticals tak musi pouzivat zbrane ktere maji rychlost 3.5+ pokud pouziva nekdo neco rychlejsiho tak to pak stoji za prdlajs.Vsimnul jsem si ze hodne waru i kdyz jedou criticals tak pouzivaji zbrane ktere jsou rychle 2.8-3.4 coz je pak onicem a nechapou ze pokud das critic pomalou zbrani tak je ta prda o hodne vetsi jak s rychlou zbrani.
Ja jsem mel na lvl 30 na mem war teda jeste mam tu warriorskou sekeru kterou lidi maji vetsinou od lvl 40 coz znamena ze sem mel 10 levelu naskok v duelu to bylo nehorazne znat na co jsem vletel to sem rosekal a nehrozilo ze by me nekdo dostal na stejnem levelu.
Arcanite reaper je bezesporu asi nejlepsi 2h axe ktera je pro wara dostupna aniz by musel nekde v instancich shanet neco lepsiho ma pekne DPS a je perfektne pomala. |
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Originally posted by Son-Draken
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Originally posted by Colldor
Roman> pokud rikas ze te lvl 60 warr zabije jako lvl 60 shaman tak by se tim fakt nechlubil a sel to trochu procvicit aby hral lip ... protoze je to celkem ostuda.
Colldore kdyz todle tvrdis tak uz si za wara 60lvl v top eqvipu hral?nebo jen tak chrastíš slamou dovětru? bo pokud bys ho hral todle nemuzes vživotě napsat (nebo si byl zanej lum)
shami muze svacit wary do nakyho 40 lvl jak nic ale pak uz se to obraci jen ve prospech spec. crit. wara..
Dobrej shaman warr da s prehledem a za tim stojim. To ze ty a tobe podobny brecite je vasa vec. Warr je silnej a mozna i jedina postava ktera poradne shamanu zavari, ale i tak je ten shaman v pvp fakt kosa. Jen to chce umet.
Warra hraju a mam ho rad, je to super postava. Ale me strasne stve ze se vzdy najdu takovy lidi ktery kecaj jako je moc uber ( to vedlo k prvnimu nerfu + indal. movie ), aniz by hledali chybu v sobe.
Roman> no pokud warr neni engineer nebo uz pouzil itercept tak mu ten frost shock celkem zavari. Pravdu ale mas, warr ktery se necha takhle umicrovat je magor ...
btw, mluvite tu o warr critu, co se stane az shamanu vyjde windfurry ? Sice warr lip crituje nez windfurry ale i tihle je svinarna. |
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Roman76
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Posted - 08/04/2005 : 19:51:34
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Originally posted by Colldor
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Originally posted by Son-Draken
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Originally posted by Colldor
Roman> pokud rikas ze te lvl 60 warr zabije jako lvl 60 shaman tak by se tim fakt nechlubil a sel to trochu procvicit aby hral lip ... protoze je to celkem ostuda.
Colldore kdyz todle tvrdis tak uz si za wara 60lvl v top eqvipu hral?nebo jen tak chrastíš slamou dovětru? bo pokud bys ho hral todle nemuzes vživotě napsat (nebo si byl zanej lum)
shami muze svacit wary do nakyho 40 lvl jak nic ale pak uz se to obraci jen ve prospech spec. crit. wara..
Dobrej shaman warr da s prehledem a za tim stojim. To ze ty a tobe podobny brecite je vasa vec. Warr je silnej a mozna i jedina postava ktera poradne shamanu zavari, ale i tak je ten shaman v pvp fakt kosa. Jen to chce umet.
Warra hraju a mam ho rad, je to super postava. Ale me strasne stve ze se vzdy najdu takovy lidi ktery kecaj jako je moc uber ( to vedlo k prvnimu nerfu + indal. movie ), aniz by hledali chybu v sobe.
Roman> no pokud warr neni engineer nebo uz pouzil itercept tak mu ten frost shock celkem zavari. Pravdu ale mas, warr ktery se necha takhle umicrovat je magor ...
btw, mluvite tu o warr critu, co se stane az shamanu vyjde windfurry ? Sice warr lip crituje nez windfurry ale i tihle je svinarna.
Nemyslim si ze je chyba ve me navic dule war startuje s chargem to bohate staci na to aby te nabafoval aby jsi neutekl navic zadny shaman na lvl 60 uz se ani nesnazi utect v duelu hehehe pac to ze zkusenym warriorem nema cenu.
Windfury je pekna vec ale na warriora moc nepomuze pac na warriora s 2h weaponem je sebevrazda a s 1h weaponem treba fury axe plus crusader co mam ja je onicem bez windfury mu delam 30-50 damage z windfury max 80 pokud nedam critic.
Pokud ses protect war nevic a nemuzes vedet o cem tu mluvim pac si bud zadny duel s critic warem nevidel nebo nevim.
To ze je takovichle warriroru malo jak na vasem serveru tak i na nasem serveru je me jasne malo kdo ma top sracicicky ale zarucuju ti ze znam 2 warrirory kteri daji shamana vzdy a s prehledem :o).
S mim warriroem 36 delam napohodu shamany taky proste se nestihne uhealovat v tom je celi problem neni cas na utekani a jine sracky behani kolem totemu jak to vetsina z vas zna z videa.
Proste nechces pochopit ze war s dobrym naradim me dela 500 hit a ja mam 3500hp pokud se mu na zacatku podari me zaperlit 2x critic tak mam nadelano v kalhotech behem par sekund pac to bude znamenat 2k damge.Shaman ma sice frosta ale to je ti nahovno intercept pokud jedes critic wara je 20 sec a pokud to neposeres na zacatku tak ti shaman neutece :O)
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Roman76
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Posted - 09/04/2005 : 15:09:00
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Roman> .....
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Dobrej shaman warr da s prehledem a za tim stojim. To ze ty a tobe podobny brecite je vasa vec. Warr je silnej a mozna i jedina postava ktera poradne shamanu zavari, ale i tak je ten shaman v pvp fakt kosa. Jen to chce umet.
Warra hraju a mam ho rad, je to super postava. Ale me strasne stve ze se vzdy najdu takovy lidi ktery kecaj jako je moc uber ( to vedlo k prvnimu nerfu + indal. movie ), aniz by hledali chybu v sobe.
btw, mluvite tu o warr critu, co se stane az shamanu vyjde windfurry ? Sice warr lip crituje nez windfurry ale i tihle je svinarna.
1-Ehm brecite? asi sem mel napsat ze sem warsouboj shami a wara mas 50/50..akorat to chce za wara neskutecny usili a fakt top veci,plus hromadu dalsich pytlovin...ale ano shami je stroj a normalniho wara sesvaci jak nic,a podkad wara kterej se mu muze postavit je taka sance jako ze ti s obyc moba padne blue item
2-nekde sem napsal ze je uber?pokud to tak vyznelo tak sry..jen sem reagoval natvuj post kdes ho v podstate prirovnal knakymu kriplovi na invalidnim vozicku bez jedny ruky..a takej mrzak to zas neni
ale v poradku taky rozhodne ne  a blizard s jeho optiznosti nahrani hodne prestrelil[mam pristup na acc s huntem druidem a pvp snima je fakt onecem jinym]....osobne sem ho chtel uz X krat smazat a ject neco jinyho.. bohuzel sem linej expit dalsi char a k povolani wara mam proste blizko 
3-windfury tak strasny neni bo s dykou to udela do plate prd dmg...a kdyz si zas veme 2h weapon aby me to bolelo tak ma prd ar
zaverem war je gimpa ..ale hodne dobrej hrac snej dokaze dost vymackat[ale je stim strasne velky srani]
....alici sou stejne jen dalsi druh moba[na SM] bo zabije vas to jen kdyz je to o X lvl vejs a nebo v grupe....... |
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Patas
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Posted - 10/04/2005 : 10:22:04
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Originally posted by Roman76
.. ono totiz na mem lvl 36 nekomu delat 500-700 critical jde hodne poznat.
to sis trochu pridal ne? chtel jsi rict tak 400 - 500 zejo? mam to stejny naradi a lvl35 a hit nad 500 s nim nedam. (taky uz jsem recpecl na crit), ale jinak i tak je to super oproti me oblibene kombinaci jednorucka se stitem (mel jsem full protect talenty a je to o nicem, nedoporucuju). |
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Kostoun
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Posted - 10/04/2005 : 12:53:34
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Originally posted by Roman76
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Originally posted by Colldor
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Originally posted by Son-Draken
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Originally posted by Colldor
Roman> pokud rikas ze te lvl 60 warr zabije jako lvl 60 shaman tak by se tim fakt nechlubil a sel to trochu procvicit aby hral lip ... protoze je to celkem ostuda.
Colldore kdyz todle tvrdis tak uz si za wara 60lvl v top eqvipu hral?nebo jen tak chrastíš slamou dovětru? bo pokud bys ho hral todle nemuzes vživotě napsat (nebo si byl zanej lum)
shami muze svacit wary do nakyho 40 lvl jak nic ale pak uz se to obraci jen ve prospech spec. crit. wara..
Dobrej shaman warr da s prehledem a za tim stojim. To ze ty a tobe podobny brecite je vasa vec. Warr je silnej a mozna i jedina postava ktera poradne shamanu zavari, ale i tak je ten shaman v pvp fakt kosa. Jen to chce umet.
Warra hraju a mam ho rad, je to super postava. Ale me strasne stve ze se vzdy najdu takovy lidi ktery kecaj jako je moc uber ( to vedlo k prvnimu nerfu + indal. movie ), aniz by hledali chybu v sobe.
Roman> no pokud warr neni engineer nebo uz pouzil itercept tak mu ten frost shock celkem zavari. Pravdu ale mas, warr ktery se necha takhle umicrovat je magor ...
btw, mluvite tu o warr critu, co se stane az shamanu vyjde windfurry ? Sice warr lip crituje nez windfurry ale i tihle je svinarna.
Nemyslim si ze je chyba ve me navic dule war startuje s chargem to bohate staci na to aby te nabafoval aby jsi neutekl navic zadny shaman na lvl 60 uz se ani nesnazi utect v duelu hehehe pac to ze zkusenym warriorem nema cenu.
Windfury je pekna vec ale na warriora moc nepomuze pac na warriora s 2h weaponem je sebevrazda a s 1h weaponem treba fury axe plus crusader co mam ja je onicem bez windfury mu delam 30-50 damage z windfury max 80 pokud nedam critic.
Pokud ses protect war nevic a nemuzes vedet o cem tu mluvim pac si bud zadny duel s critic warem nevidel nebo nevim.
To ze je takovichle warriroru malo jak na vasem serveru tak i na nasem serveru je me jasne malo kdo ma top sracicicky ale zarucuju ti ze znam 2 warrirory kteri daji shamana vzdy a s prehledem :o).
S mim warriroem 36 delam napohodu shamany taky proste se nestihne uhealovat v tom je celi problem neni cas na utekani a jine sracky behani kolem totemu jak to vetsina z vas zna z videa.
Proste nechces pochopit ze war s dobrym naradim me dela 500 hit a ja mam 3500hp pokud se mu na zacatku podari me zaperlit 2x critic tak mam nadelano v kalhotech behem par sekund pac to bude znamenat 2k damge.Shaman ma sice frosta ale to je ti nahovno intercept pokud jedes critic wara je 20 sec a pokud to neposeres na zacatku tak ti shaman neutece :O)
Pouze cas vam ukaze kdo je melee panem a tvrdim ze to je warrior :o)
Ty voe kdyz mas takovy talenty jak mas(38 v restoration) tak se nediv ze te war da :))
taran icebreaker taky neni zadna vyhra a bez stitu to proste boli...:)
ale je fakt dobry war je orisek...ale me osobne vetsi problem dela dobry mage ktery vi co na shammyho plati :( |
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Roman76
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Posted - 10/04/2005 : 13:23:43
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Originally posted by Kostoun
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Originally posted by Roman76
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Originally posted by Colldor
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Originally posted by Son-Draken
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Originally posted by Colldor
Roman> pokud rikas ze te lvl 60 warr zabije jako lvl 60 shaman tak by se tim fakt nechlubil a sel to trochu procvicit aby hral lip ... protoze je to celkem ostuda.
Colldore kdyz todle tvrdis tak uz si za wara 60lvl v top eqvipu hral?nebo jen tak chrastíš slamou dovětru? bo pokud bys ho hral todle nemuzes vživotě napsat (nebo si byl zanej lum)
shami muze svacit wary do nakyho 40 lvl jak nic ale pak uz se to obraci jen ve prospech spec. crit. wara..
Dobrej shaman warr da s prehledem a za tim stojim. To ze ty a tobe podobny brecite je vasa vec. Warr je silnej a mozna i jedina postava ktera poradne shamanu zavari, ale i tak je ten shaman v pvp fakt kosa. Jen to chce umet.
Warra hraju a mam ho rad, je to super postava. Ale me strasne stve ze se vzdy najdu takovy lidi ktery kecaj jako je moc uber ( to vedlo k prvnimu nerfu + indal. movie ), aniz by hledali chybu v sobe.
Roman> no pokud warr neni engineer nebo uz pouzil itercept tak mu ten frost shock celkem zavari. Pravdu ale mas, warr ktery se necha takhle umicrovat je magor ...
btw, mluvite tu o warr critu, co se stane az shamanu vyjde windfurry ? Sice warr lip crituje nez windfurry ale i tihle je svinarna.
Nemyslim si ze je chyba ve me navic dule war startuje s chargem to bohate staci na to aby te nabafoval aby jsi neutekl navic zadny shaman na lvl 60 uz se ani nesnazi utect v duelu hehehe pac to ze zkusenym warriorem nema cenu.
Windfury je pekna vec ale na warriora moc nepomuze pac na warriora s 2h weaponem je sebevrazda a s 1h weaponem treba fury axe plus crusader co mam ja je onicem bez windfury mu delam 30-50 damage z windfury max 80 pokud nedam critic.
Pokud ses protect war nevic a nemuzes vedet o cem tu mluvim pac si bud zadny duel s critic warem nevidel nebo nevim.
To ze je takovichle warriroru malo jak na vasem serveru tak i na nasem serveru je me jasne malo kdo ma top sracicicky ale zarucuju ti ze znam 2 warrirory kteri daji shamana vzdy a s prehledem :o).
S mim warriroem 36 delam napohodu shamany taky proste se nestihne uhealovat v tom je celi problem neni cas na utekani a jine sracky behani kolem totemu jak to vetsina z vas zna z videa.
Proste nechces pochopit ze war s dobrym naradim me dela 500 hit a ja mam 3500hp pokud se mu na zacatku podari me zaperlit 2x critic tak mam nadelano v kalhotech behem par sekund pac to bude znamenat 2k damge.Shaman ma sice frosta ale to je ti nahovno intercept pokud jedes critic wara je 20 sec a pokud to neposeres na zacatku tak ti shaman neutece :O)
Pouze cas vam ukaze kdo je melee panem a tvrdim ze to je warrior :o)
Ty voe kdyz mas takovy talenty jak mas(38 v restoration) tak se nediv ze te war da :))
taran icebreaker taky neni zadna vyhra a bez stitu to proste boli...:)
ale je fakt dobry war je orisek...ale me osobne vetsi problem dela dobry mage ktery vi co na shammyho plati :(
Projed si to znova mel jsem tam updatle jine veci jinak pouzivam vetsionou todle.
Jinak talenty mam delane na raids ale i na PvP se me zdaji o hodne lepsi elementy jsou podle me useless tady mas naslapany healing plus peknou regeneraci many s totemama.
V duelu se shamanem vetsinou vyhraju diky mane.
Navic vcera se otevrel test server s honorable systemem a vetsina lidi meni talenty a zkousi vecicky muj kamos ktery byl protection warr teda jeste je na normalnim serveru se specnul na fury a arms a jenom breci ze je to naslapane :o))) navic pred mestem se dueluje o 100 pero a skoro kazdy war dela shamana lepe receno vechny classy pokud me nekdo ukaze kam muzu supnout videa rad to natocim pro ty neverici tomase :o) |
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Deimos
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Posted - 10/04/2005 : 20:28:27
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no napis na deimos@pobox.sk
kdesi ty videa umistnime ;)
NA lvl 40 s whilwind axe mam rekord 989 s Critem na MS. a to s zbrani o ktorej tu bola rec. Warriorske whirlwind axe. 500 crity se na lvl 35 s ni davaji bezne.
Skuseneho crit warra, s dobrou vybavou da zrejmne jenom mage. A i to se po nevem patchi uvidi, bo s diminishing rost novou to bude vetsi sranda, I kdyz je to o vzdy o skillu hrace a i o stesti.
Add zbran pre crit warra. Nekdo tu psal ze je to zbran s 3,5+ utokom. To je sice pravda ale opravil by som ze to vobec nieje koli tomu aby boli vetsie crity. Ako kazdy vie ze u tam sice ciselne vetsie crity, ale rychlejsia zbran ma tych critov viac takze sa celkovy dmg rovna. (kludne sa budem hadat). Dovod preco su tie zbrane take dobre pre warra su MS, whirlind. Teda instantne utoky. Nerata sa tu rychlost zbrane U kazdej zbrane to stoji rage rovnako, len s arcanit reaperom co ma horny dmg 256 s tim MS critne o poznani pres 1k ;) co s pomalou zbrani ne.
Krom toho ted nechi videt trolly warry c s nim bodou delat s tema svyma speckami na rychlost. |
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simir
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 14:19:03
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mohli by jste mi okomentovat tento build?
jestli tam je něco zbytečne, a nebo tam zace něco důležitého chybí?
Mám v těch talentech pěkný guláš tak bych se chtěl poradit co a jak...
Arms Talents (31 points)
Improved Heroic Strike - 3/3 points
Reduces the cost of your Heroic Strike ability by 3 rage points.
Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.
Improved Rend - 3/3 points
Increases the bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.
Tactical Mastery - 5/5 points
You retain up to 25 of your rage points when you change stances.
Improved Overpower - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.
Anger Management - 1/1 point
Increases the time required for your Rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.
Deep Wounds - 3/3 points
Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 seconds.
Impale - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike damage done by your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.
Sweeping Strikes - 1/1 point
You next 5 melee weapon swings strike an additional nearby opponent.
Sword Specialization - 5/5 points
Gives you a 6% chance to get an extra attack after dealing damage with your Sword.
Mortal Strike - 1/1 point
A vicious strike that deals 200% weapon damage and wounds the target, reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 50% for 10 seconds.
Fury Talents (20 points)
Cruelty - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.
Unbridled Wrath - 5/5 points
Gives you a 40% chance to generate an additional Rage point when you deal melee damage.
Improved Demoralizing Shout - 5/5 points
Increases the attack power reduction of your Demoralizing Shout by 25%.
Piercing Howl - 1/1 point
Causes all enemies near the warrior to be dazed for 6 seconds.
Improved Execute - 2/2 points
Reduces the Rage cost of your Execute ability by 5.
Enrage - 2/5 points
Gives you a 16% melee damage bonus for 4 swings any time you are the victim of a critical strike.
Protection Talents (0 points)
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Demawend
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 15:24:31
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| Simire, nedavej body do Unbridled Wrath a Improved Heroic Strike. |
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simir
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 15:38:15
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Simire, nedavej body do Unbridled Wrath a Improved Heroic Strike.
kam mám dát body misto těchle dvou (aby se to oplatilo??) (tj. 8bodů?) |
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Colldor
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 16:19:51
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Originally posted by Deimos
Krom toho ted nechi videt trolly warry c s nim bodou delat s tema svyma speckami na rychlost.
No az po patchy bude berserk moznej po zasazeni criticalem, tak to bude opravdu uber ... sem rad ze mam toho "ugly" warra ;) |
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simir
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 16:46:50
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Originally posted by simir
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Originally posted by Demawend
Simire, nedavej body do Unbridled Wrath a Improved Heroic Strike.
kam mám dát body misto těchle dvou (aby se to oplatilo??) (tj. 8bodů?)
Už to mám vymyšlené... Chtělo mě to jenom nakopnout |
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Semir Drak´Thul
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