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JerzeeG
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krecek

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Posted - 19/12/2004 :  11:42:19  Show Profile  Send JerzeeG an ICQ Message Send JerzeeG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Phase 1 - Combat - Angry Villagers - Combat Prowess: Ranged Accuracy - dobre pro ranged povolani.. asi..
Phase 1 - Reflex - Distraught villagers - Enhanced Reflexes: Survival - myslel jsem ze tohle budud mit a nepotrebuju scouta - omyl.. vyzkouseno areasem, nefunguje
Phase 1 - Medic/Survey- Aid Station - Heightened Senses: Persuasion lepsi ceny u treneru ? na hovno
Phase 1 - Crafting - Clean up crew - Crafting Mastery: Assembly mno.. pro craftera mozna.. pokud to ovsem stoji za ty body a neni pro crafta lepsi zajet do mesta s bonusem a vzit zradlo.. :-P
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Phase 2 - Combat - Raiding Party - Combat Prowess: Melee Speed prvni vec co se hodi pro jediho ?
Phase 2 - Reflex - Quartermaster - Enhanced Reflexes: Vehicular Control mno.. na hovno
Phase 2 - Medic/Survey - Construction Forman - Heightened Senses: Luck - pokud to teda funguje, o cemz pochybuju, tak by to mohlo byt dobre
Phase 2 - Crafting - Puzzled Engineer - Crafting Mastery: Crafting Techniques rekl bych ze na hovno i pro crafta..
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Phase 3 - Combat - Armed Group - Combat Prowess: Melee Accuracy druha dobra vec pro jedi ?
Phase 3 - Reflex - Raiding Party - Enhanced Reflexes: Ranged Defense do zacatku pro jedi ?
Phase 3 - Medic/Survey - Construction Forman - Heightened Senses: Survey tree mam dojem, ze jsem cetl, ze tohle stejne nerozsiri oblast hledani.. protoze uz master surveyor ma cap..
Phase 3 - Crafting - Engineer - Crafting Mastery: Experimentation opet, snad pro crafty, ale plati to co u assembly bych rekl..
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Phase 4 - Combat - Village Elder - Combat Prowess: Ranged speed opet dobre pro ranged povolani
Phase 4 - Reflex - Village Elder - Enhanced Reflexes: Melee Defense tohle taky pro jediho akorat do zacatku
Phase 4 - Medic/Survey- Frenzied Doctor - Heightened Senses: Healing tree tohle akorat tak pro entertainera, pokud tim dosahne lepsiho ent buffu..
Phase 4 - Crafting - Chief Engineer - Crafting Mastery: Repair taky uplna blbost

tohle jsou me nazory, ktere rad poupravim, tak jen sazejte pripominky

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imhotep
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Posted - 19/12/2004 :  16:38:05  Show Profile  Send imhotep an ICQ Message Send imhotep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zatim je vetsina krome par opravdu naprd.
uvidime co stim udela ten combat rewamp, pak treba ani speed nebude mit cap 100 a ostatni 125

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Jedi_Knight
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Phobos

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Posted - 19/12/2004 :  17:06:02  Show Profile  Send Jedi_Knight an ICQ Message Send Jedi_Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imhotep

zatim je vetsina krome par opravdu naprd.
uvidime co stim udela ten combat rewamp, pak treba ani speed nebude mit cap 100 a ostatni 125


Speed bude po CU fungovat uplně jinak.

Každé povolání bude například mít jiný cap.

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riddle
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Posted - 19/12/2004 :  23:10:15  Show Profile  Send riddle an ICQ Message Send riddle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ja nevim jestli jst neco cetli o Combat Rewamp VS JEDI
ale Combat Rewamp by se az tak moc nemel mit co docineni s Jedim

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Jedi_Knight
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Phobos

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Posted - 20/12/2004 :  00:07:48  Show Profile  Send Jedi_Knight an ICQ Message Send Jedi_Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by riddle

ja nevim jestli jst neco cetli o Combat Rewamp VS JEDI
ale Combat Rewamp by se az tak moc nemel mit co docineni s Jedim


Jj, to je fakt, ale několik věcí se ho dotkně i tak - například předělávka speed systému.

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Jorssk
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Posted - 20/12/2004 :  05:35:35  Show Profile  Visit Jorssk's Homepage  Send Jorssk an ICQ Message Send Jorssk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jeste by to chtelo napsat jake jsou za co rewardy. Btw Luck ma lygie a muzu potvrdit ze funguje vyborne .
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riddle
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Posted - 20/12/2004 :  11:13:58  Show Profile  Send riddle an ICQ Message Send riddle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Phase 1: Combat Prowess: Ranged Accuracy: Angry Villagers: 10 Patrols unlocks, 20 obtains the Aurilian Banner
Phase 1: Enhanced Reflexes: Survival: Distraught Villagers: Aurilian Sculpure Part 3 of 4
Phase 1: Heightened Senses: Persuasion: Aid Station: 5 Villagers unlocks, 10 for +5 CM Exp necklace, 15 for House Plant
Phase 1: Crafting Mastery: Assembly: Clean Up Crew: Aurilian Sculpure Part 4 of 4

Phase 2: Combat Prowess: Melee Speed: Raiding party: Durable Lathe [300 use melee p'up with +30 speed]
Phase 2: Enhanced Reflexes: Vehicular Control: Quarter Master: Focus crystal, +2000 health for 2hrs, once every 3 days
Phase 2: Heightened Senses: Survey Tree: Construction Forman: Not Know
Phase 2: Crafting Mastery: Crafting Techniques: Puzzled Engineer: Not Known

Phase 3: Combat Prowess: Melee Accuracy: Armed Group: Power Crystal, if grouped, a +900 mind crystal, useable every 96hrs
Phase 3: Enhanced Reflexes: Ranged Defense: Raiding Party: Item with limited uses, adds +10 to ranged defence
Phase 3: Heightened Senses: Luck: Construction Forman: Inorganic Survey Tool
Phase 3: Crafting Mastery: Experimentation: Engineer: Not Known

Phase 4: Combat Prowess: Ranged Speed: Village Elder: Aurilian Sculpure Part 1 of 4
Phase 4: Enhanced Reflexes: Melee Defense: Village Elder: Not Known
Phase 4: Heightened Senses: Healing: Fenzied Doctor: Not Known
Phase 4: Crafting Mastery: Repair: Chief Engineer: Aurilian Sculpure Part 2 of 4

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Giltanas
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Posted - 20/12/2004 :  12:51:15  Show Profile  Send Giltanas an ICQ Message Send Giltanas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JerzeeG
Phase 2 - Reflex - Quartermaster - Enhanced Reflexes: Vehicular Control mno.. na hovno



Nesouhlasim tohle je nahodou jeste jeden z tech pouzitelnejsich skillu. Kdyz ma clovek kompletni vetev tak je to na ovladatelnosti speederu hodne znat.

Zatim vim o tehlech pouzitelnych skillech. Ranged a melee defence. Vehicular control a luck. Pak mozna melee speed a melee acuracy akorat nikdo nevi jestli to jedimu pomaha ci ne.

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Golgoleth
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Posted - 20/12/2004 :  14:47:29  Show Profile Send Golgoleth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Giltanas
...Pak mozna melee speed a melee acuracy akorat nikdo nevi jestli to jedimu pomaha ci ne.



chjo lidi koukate se taky nekdy do jedi fora ??
Ano melee speed a melee accuracy jsou jedny z nejlepsich FS skills pro jedie, pomahaji hlavne ze zacatku pri grindovani, FS melee speed ztraci vyznam az kdyz jedi ma master LS bo speed cap, i kdyz po cv muze byt vse jinak.
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Golgoleth
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Posted - 20/12/2004 :  14:53:24  Show Profile Send Golgoleth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JerzeeG
Phase 3 - Medic/Survey - Construction Forman - Heightened Senses: Survey tree mam dojem, ze jsem cetl, ze tohle stejne nerozsiri oblast hledani.. protoze uz master surveyor ma cap..



Tenhle FS skill je nahodou good, mam ho a diky nemu muzu hledat suroviny aniz bych potreboval artisana
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Jedi_Knight
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Phobos

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Posted - 20/12/2004 :  18:59:14  Show Profile  Send Jedi_Knight an ICQ Message Send Jedi_Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Podle mě tu hlavně spoustě lidi uniká smysl těch skillů.

To nemá bejt super podpora pro Jedie, ale super podpora pro normální chary.

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JerzeeG
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krecek

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Posted - 20/12/2004 :  19:00:11  Show Profile  Send JerzeeG an ICQ Message Send JerzeeG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Golgoleth

quote:
Originally posted by JerzeeG
Phase 3 - Medic/Survey - Construction Forman - Heightened Senses: Survey tree mam dojem, ze jsem cetl, ze tohle stejne nerozsiri oblast hledani.. protoze uz master surveyor ma cap..



Tenhle FS skill je nahodou good, mam ho a diky nemu muzu hledat suroviny aniz bych potreboval artisana



tak toje ovsem kurva neco jineho, nez jsem cekal... v tom pripade souhlas, hodi se.. i kdyz.. pro me asi ne.. nez se trapit se skillem survey 20, radsi prelognu na segru, nebo ji rozkazu a on to najde s artisanem (survey 100) rychleji :-)))

pokud ovsem survey funguje, tak to je kurva bordel..
proc funguje survey i kdyz nemas artisana
ale nefunguje treba to survival, kdyz nemas scouta ?


edit:
no janek ma samozrejme pravdu.. mozna to od me spatne vyznelo.. ja jsem chtel jen rict, ze pro jedi jsou na hovno.. vetsina..
i to tam pisu, ze to je dobre akorat tak pro normalni chary - coz je samozrejme dobre.. ovsem i pro ne jsou nektere na prd - viz survey pro artisana.. pokud vim, tak tech 100 je stejne cap, nebo je to jinak ?

osobne bych nejradsi tohle vsecko zastavil, vesnici zmizel a vsecky jedi zaroven s ni..

Jerzee <Mor do Kuli>

Edited by - JerzeeG on 20/12/2004 19:08:45
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Jorssk
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jorssk2

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Posted - 21/12/2004 :  05:39:13  Show Profile  Visit Jorssk's Homepage  Send Jorssk an ICQ Message Send Jorssk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ten survey je asi hlavne pro jediho, aby si mohl hledat a tezit suroviny potrebne k sestavovani mece....
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riddle
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Posted - 21/12/2004 :  09:41:22  Show Profile  Send riddle an ICQ Message Send riddle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tak tak
ale co me zarazilo ze se LightSaber nepocita do Mele zbrani...
Tudiz MeleSpeed je vastne Jedimu na 2 veci

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Drizzt DoUrden
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Posted - 21/12/2004 :  10:33:46  Show Profile Send Drizzt DoUrden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lidi, tak co je vlastně správně? Je luck ve druhé nebo ve třetí fázi?
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Giltanas
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Posted - 21/12/2004 :  12:19:13  Show Profile  Send Giltanas an ICQ Message Send Giltanas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No a presne o tomhle jsem mluvil. Jeden tu tvrdi ze melee speed a acuracy. Vliv ma a druhej tvrdi opak :-) A pak se v tom vyznej :-)

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Golgoleth
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Posted - 21/12/2004 :  13:07:10  Show Profile Send Golgoleth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by riddle

tak tak
ale co me zarazilo ze se LightSaber nepocita do Mele zbrani...
Tudiz MeleSpeed je vastne Jedimu na 2 veci


No nevim jestli se ls pocita do mele zbrani nebo nepocita ale ver tomu ze to vliv ma, jeste v testu se to docela dost testovalo a vliv to ma.
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Almych
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To jsem ja

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Posted - 22/12/2004 :  15:05:42  Show Profile  Send Almych an ICQ Message Send Almych a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jenom pro upresneni:

ted v 1. fazi jsem si otevrel combat prowess, cimz se mi nabehl cely strom combatu. Musim v dalsich fazich delat questy, nebo nemusim?

btw: to grindovani me dost tezce odrazuje, pri predstave, kolik musim udelat expu je mi blbe.
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Azeroth
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Posted - 22/12/2004 :  17:14:18  Show Profile  Send Azeroth an ICQ Message Send Azeroth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Almych

Jenom pro upresneni:

ted v 1. fazi jsem si otevrel combat prowess, cimz se mi nabehl cely strom combatu. Musim v dalsich fazich delat questy, nebo nemusim?

btw: to grindovani me dost tezce odrazuje, pri predstave, kolik musim udelat expu je mi blbe.



Me je blbe kdyz si uvedomim, ze sem mel zacit grindovat na zacatku listopadu a takto se to vlece

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Drizzt DoUrden
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Posted - 18/01/2005 :  16:26:33  Show Profile Send Drizzt DoUrden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Šup nahoru pro nováčky.
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Jedi_Knight
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Phobos

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Posted - 18/01/2005 :  17:09:17  Show Profile  Send Jedi_Knight an ICQ Message Send Jedi_Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Drizzt DoUrden

Šup nahoru pro nováčky.


Já se picnu...

Co takhle radši připsat tu otázku do FAQ a pomoct mi ho vytvořit? Už aby byl víkend a moh jsem na tom začít makat... tohleto období před vízem je dycky hrozný.

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Drizzt DoUrden
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Posted - 19/01/2005 :  10:17:41  Show Profile Send Drizzt DoUrden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jedi_Knight

quote:
Originally posted by Drizzt DoUrden

Šup nahoru pro nováčky.


Já se picnu...

Co takhle radši připsat tu otázku do FAQ a pomoct mi ho vytvořit? Už aby byl víkend a moh jsem na tom začít makat... tohleto období před vízem je dycky hrozný.


Hmm, já se moc na tvorbě stránek a tak neorientuju, a když už se to řešilo....
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Olusriel
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Posted - 19/01/2005 :  12:02:16  Show Profile  Send Olusriel an ICQ Message Send Olusriel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nikde jsem nenasel odpoved na nasledujici dotaz:
Jak dosahnu ziskani free slotu na ulocknuti 2.vetve v ramci jedne etapy ve vesnici?
Plati, ze musim prvni otevrenou vetev celou doexpovat a potom zajit za dedkem, ktery mi zada quest na dalsi vetev v jedine fazi?
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Quartax
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Quartax

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Posted - 19/01/2005 :  13:11:38  Show Profile Send Quartax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Olusriel

nikde jsem nenasel odpoved na nasledujici dotaz:
Jak dosahnu ziskani free slotu na ulocknuti 2.vetve v ramci jedne etapy ve vesnici?
Plati, ze musim prvni otevrenou vetev celou doexpovat a potom zajit za dedkem, ktery mi zada quest na dalsi vetev v jedine fazi?
Diky za radu
Olusriel


nechápu, pokud nejsi HOLOunlocker tak otevíráš jen jednu větev za fázi
žádné další zdrama imo nejsou. expovat můžeš větev jak dlouho chceš, a když začínáš tak do možnosti být jettii tě dělí 6 fází vesnice a odemčení 6 větviček

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Olusriel
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Posted - 19/01/2005 :  13:38:06  Show Profile  Send Olusriel an ICQ Message Send Olusriel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tady o tom pisi, fs questy hotove za 10 tydnu:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Forcesensitive&message.id=18


The Village of Aurilia, and planning and training your Force Skills

The Village is located on Dathomire, 5000m South East of the Science Outpost. Once you are there, things start to get a little more complex, so pay attention.

The Village Quests simply allow you to unlock a branch and devote Force XP into the unlocked branch. There are four total skill trees: Combat Prowess, Crafting Mastery, Enhanced Reflexes and Heightened Senses. Each of these trees has four branches, so sixteen branches in total.

You must master SIX of the possible sixteen branches.

The trees and branches are as follows [Bonuses are in brackets]:
Combat Prowess: Ranged Accuracy [+12 ranged acc]
Combat Prowess: Ranged Speed [+12 ranged speed]
Combat Prowess: Melee Accuracy [+12 melee acc]
Combat Prowess: Melee Speed [+12 melee speed]

Crafting Mastery: Experimentation [+20 experimentation]
Crafting Mastery: Repair [+20 repair]
Crafting Mastery: Assembly [+20 assembly]
Crafting Mastery: Technique [+4 technique]

Enhanced Reflexes: Ranged Defence [+20 ranged defence]
Enhanced Reflexes: Melee Defence [+20 melee defence]
Enhanced Reflexes: Vehicular Control [+20 vehicular control, +3 acceleration]
Enhanced Reflexes: Survival [+5 to: Camping, Foraging, Mask Scent, Creature Harvesting, Creature Knowledge, Trapping, Terrain Negotiation]

Heightened Senses: Healing [+10 to: Injury Treatment Speed, Injury Treatment, Wound Healing (Dancing), Wound Healing (Music)]
Heightened Senses: Surveying [+20 surveying]
Heightened Senses: Persuasion [+20 persuasion]
Heightened Senses: Luck [+4 luck]

The branches unlock four per village cycle, and there are four cycles. What you can unlock is set though, so, if you have free unlocks, ideally you want to unlock the skills you want that are normally unlocked in a later cycle.
Here are all the Phases and what can be unlocked in each Phase:

Of these, you must pick six. For those who have free unlocks, the next part is important:

Imagine you want Combat Prowess: Ranged Accuracy, Melee Speed, Melee Accuracy, Ranged Speed, Enhanced Reflexes: Ranged Defence, Melee Defence.

You must bear in mind that YOU CAN ONLY DO ONE QUEST PER PHASE!

With this in mind, plan out what comes first in the list. For the above skills selected, my template is kinda like this:

Village Phase 1: Combat Prowess: Ranged Accuracy
Village Phase 2: Combat Prowess: Melee Speed
Village Phase 3: Combat Prowess: Melee Accuracy
Village Phase 3: Enhanced Reflexes: Ranged Defense
Village Phase 4: Enhanced Reflexes: Melee Defense
Village Phase 4: Combat Prowess: Ranged Speed

Now, you can see here that I have two in Phase 3, and two in Phase 4. If I had no unlocks, I would have pick one of the Phase 3 skills and one of the Phase 4 skills to unlock through the quests, and then wait a FULL CYCLE before I could do the second skill in Phase 3, and then the second in Phase 4, delaying my Jedi Initiate by up to 12 weeks.

I would have to train in this order:

Week 1: Village Phase 1: Combat Prowess: Ranged Accuracy
Week 4: Village Phase 2: Combat Prowess: Melee Speed
Week 7: Village Phase 3: Combat Prowess: Melee Accuracy
Week 10: Village Phase 4: Enhanced Reflexes: Melee Defense
Week 13: Village Phase 1: Nothing I desire available
Week 16: Village Phase 2: Nothing I desire available
Week 19: Village Phase 3: Enhanced Reflexes: Ranged Defense
Week 22: Village Phase 4: Combat Prowess: Ranged Speed

However, if you are clever, you can use your free unlocks to reduce your waiting time. Imagine I have two free unlocks. First unlock would go on the last skill you would train, Combat Prowess: Ranged Speed, and the second unlock would be used for Enhanced Reflexes: Ranged Defense. This immediately means that the last skill you need to unlock by waiting for the normal village cycle and performing the relevant quest would be:

Week 10: Village Phase 4: Enhanced Reflexes: Melee Defense

Now I am finished on week 10, instead of week 22, all by careful planning of what skills I need, and what order to use my free unlocks.

To get a free unlock, you must talk to Paemos, who offers any free unlocks you might have. He will unlock the branch of your choice, and allocate enough xp to master that branch. Training is provided by Noldan.

Remember: Unlock ONE free branch at a time, train it, then return for another free branch.

Once you have attained your free unlocks, it's time to do the quests relevant to the other branches you want to do as part of the six required to move on to Jedi Initiate. Personally, I would do all of the quests, as there are some cool rewards.

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Quartax
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Quartax

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Posted - 19/01/2005 :  13:48:35  Show Profile Send Quartax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:



ale free unlocky dostaneš jen když si před změnou jedi systému otevřel holocrny a splnil to co to po tobě chtělo(povolání)

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Olusriel
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Posted - 19/01/2005 :  13:57:05  Show Profile  Send Olusriel an ICQ Message Send Olusriel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Diky, to je ten kousek ktery mi v tom chybel.
PS. ktera je ted pls faze a kdy konci? Dik.

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Quartax
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Quartax

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Posted - 19/01/2005 :  14:12:05  Show Profile Send Quartax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Olusriel

Diky, to je ten kousek ktery mi v tom chybel.
PS. ktera je ted pls faze a kdy konci? Dik.


ted je třetí a měla by končit začátkem února (první týden v únoru) imo.

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