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imhotep
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Posted - 14/12/2004 :  08:56:46  Show Profile  Send imhotep an ICQ Message Send imhotep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tohle jsem vytahnul z jednoho postu, mozna to nekomu pomuze


Experimentation and Assembly Skill Mods

* Weapon Experimentation and Assembly
* Armor Experimentation and Assembly
* Food Experimentation and Assembly
* Medicine Experimentation and Assembly
* Combat Medicine Experimentation and Assembly
* Droid Experimentation and Assembly
* Clothing Experimentation and Assembly
* Structure Experimentation and Assembly
* Artisan Experimentation and Assembly
* Grenade Experimentation and Assembly
All of these mods work except grenade experimentation and assembly, which was removed in beta and no longer exists on the current skill tree.

Repair Skill Mods

* Weapon Repair
* Armor Repair
* Clothing Repair
None of these mods do anything. They have been tested extensively and serve no purpose.

Other Artisan Related Skill Mods

* Droid Customization
* Droid Complexity
* Structure Complexity
* Surveying
The first three mods here do nothing. Surveying works, but you hit the hard cap for surveying distance at artisian surveying 4 anyway so take that into consideration.

Other Medic and Doctor Related Skill Mods

* Injury Treatment
* Injury Treatment Speed
* Wound Treatment
* Wound Treatment Speed
* Medical Foraging
* Medicine Use
Most of these mods work, however the medical foraging skill is as good as useless, and it would be pointless to use. Also Medicine Use was nerfed and no longer functions.

Other Combat Medic Related Skill Mods

* Healing Range
* Ranged Injury Treatment Speed
* Combat Medicine Use
* Combat Medicine Effectiveness
Healing range and combat medicine use have been tested and don't do anything, combat medicine effectiveness probably doesn't work and but is hard to properly test. I wouldn't lay down any serious credits for this skill. The second mod up there works just fine.

Scout, Ranger, and Squad Leader Related Skill Mods.

* Terrain Negotiation
* Camouflage
* Foraging
* Rescue
* Group Terrain Negotiation
* Steady Aim Bonus
* Volley Fire Bonus
All of these skill mods are tested and should work, but I don't know anyone who would actually want most of them. Don't put down any credits on the last two especially, since it is hard to confirm just how effecitve they are since they don't really do much anyway. I'm leaving them green since we know they do function.

Creature Handler Related Skill Mods

* Additional Pets
* Stored Pets
* Creature Taming Bonus
Additional Pets and Stored Pets both used to work but have been nerfed, creature taming bonus works fine and I beleive is a requirement for taming a bull rancor baby.

Entertainer Related Skill Mods

* Wound Healing (Music)
* Wound Healing (Dancing)
* Battle Fatigue Healing (Music)
* Battle Fatigue Healing (Dancing)
* Musical Mind Enhancement
* Dancing Mind Enhancement
* Instrument Assembly
Yep, all of it works, although instrument assembly is kind of redundany since instruments don't really have any mods or different values to them.

Defensive Skill Mods

* Dodge
* Counterattack
* Block
* One Handed Weapon Counterattack
* One Handed Weapon Evasion
* Two Handed Melee Counterattack
* Two Handed Melee Evasion
* Polearm Counterattack
* Polearm Evasion
The first three mods here work, as long as you are equipping a weapon that fits with each mod. For example counterattack works when holding a power hammer, but you won't dodge while weidling it no matter how much +dodge you have. Make sure you get the right mods for the weapons you use. As far as the rest of this list... All of these were removed in beta, replaced by the trio of working skills.

General Defense Skill Mods (Part 1)

* Bleeding Resistance
* Combat Bleeding Defense
* Poison Resistance
* Disease Resistance
* Fire Resistance
All of these mods should work but are nearly impossible to test.

General Defense Skill Mods (Part 2)

* Melee Defense
* Ranged Defense
* Defense vs. Dizzy
* Defense vs. Blind
* Defense vs. Knockdown
* Defense vs. Posture Change (Up)
* Defense vs. Posture Change (Down)
* Defense vs. Intimidate
* Defense vs. Stun
All of these mods work fine, but the posture change (up) is basically useless because you are rarely (if ever) forced up by an attack.

Melee Skill Mods

* Unarmed Speed
* Unarmed Accuracy
* One Handed Weapon Speed
* One Handed Weapon Accuracy
* Two Handed Melee Speed
* Two Handed Melee Accuracy
* Polearm Speed
* Polearm Accuracy
* Warcry
* Berserk
* Intimidation
All of these are working properly.

Melee Damage Skill Mods

* Unarmed Damage
* One Handed Melee Damage
* Two Handed Melee Damage
* Polearm Damage
All of these mods should work, but only the first one actually does. I beleive the devlopers removed the last three mods completely when they removed them from the skill trees. This is the source of much debate, but it has been tested time and time again. Do not get duped into buying skill mods for any of these except unarmed.

Ranged Skill Mods

* General Ranged Aiming
* Alertness
* Carbine Speed
* Carbine Accuracy
* Carbine Accuracy While Moving
* Carbine Aiming
* Pistol Speed
* Pistol Accuracy
* Pistol Accuracy While Moving
* Pistol Accuracy While Standing
* Pistol Aiming
* Rifle Speed
* Rifle Accuracy
* Rifle Accuracy While Moving
* Rifle Aiming
* Cover
* Taking Cover
* Rifle Crawl Speed
The last two mods here no longer function, but the rest work fine with the proper weapon equipped.

Commando Related Skill Mods

* Thrown Weapon Accuracy
* Heavy Weapon Speed
* Heavy Weapon Accuracy
The first mod here works, the second two do not. Heavy weapons now have their own mods, such as flamethrower accuracy, flamethrower speed, etc.

Bounty Hunter Related Skill Mods

* Tracking Droids
* Tracking Droid Effectiveness
* Droid Speed
* Droid Precision
All of the above work, including speed, but currently adding speed actually slows down the droids! This makes it a functioning but worthless mod until the skill itself is fixed.

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JerzeeG
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Posted - 21/03/2005 :  21:40:51  Show Profile  Send JerzeeG an ICQ Message Send JerzeeG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ttp://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=game_guides&message.id=128773

ale pozor nektere posty tam vvraceji ten guide:

This is a guide for the successful use of Skill Enhancement Attachments. This guide covers both clothing attachments (looks like a role of duct tape; also known as skill tapes) and armor attachments (looks like an armor segment), which are collectively known as Skill Enhancement Attachments (SEA's).

There are some basic rules that apply to all:

1) skill tapes go into clothes that have sockets, armor attachments go into armor that have sockets (including ubese shirts and mabari belts). They are applied by dragging and dropping the SEA onto the socketed item which, if the SEA isn't blank, will fill up one socket. Maximum number of sockets on an item is 4. Sockets on backpacks don't work currently, there is no way to put a skill tape on a backpack at the moment.

2) there is a maximum of 6 stat modifiers for a piece of clothing, which includes stat modifiers from Bio-Engineered tissues added into clothes items at creation (e.g. you could have a clothes item with +10 to injury treatment, +10 to wound treatment, and +10 to bleeding defense, which would allow for 3 more stat mods to be attached assuming 3 sockets).

3) you can only get one skill stat bonus from a tape to stick, with others being lost (i.e. a tape that has 2 or more stat mods will only allow one to stick, see below)

4) stat mods do not stack, you do not get benefit from putting additional tapes with the same type of stat mod on a single item of clothing as they do not add together (e.g. you put a +5 armor experimentation on a pair of gloves, you can't put another +3 armor experimentation on there and get +8, you would just lose the +3 and still have a pair of gloves with +5 on it). If you place a single stat mod tape on a piece of clothing with a higher stat mod of the same type as one that's is already on the item, the higher number will stick (e.g. if you have +3 armor experimentation on a pair of gloves and you put a +5 armor experimentation tape on it, you will get gloves with +5 armor experimentation). Placing multiple stat attachments on items with matching skills follows extra rules see below.

5) when placing an attachment with 2 or more stats, the highest value stats will be the only one applied (e.g. a +5 rifle accuracy with +4 armorsmith experimentation will give the +5 rifle accuracy) regardless of the order of which the stats are listed on the SEA

6) when placing an attachment with 2 or more stat mods and there are 2 or more stat mods tied for the highest numerical value, the stat mod that is placed will be the first in alphabetical order (e.g. +4 two handed accuracy with +4 armorsmith experimentation will give the armor experimentation because it is a tie and A comes before T) regardless of the order the stat mods are listed on the SEA

7) clothes with stat mods that drop to 0 condition, still allow the stat mods to work, so don't destroy any stat modded clothes that are at 0 condition

8) maximum stat mod you can get from a set of clothing (or armor) is +25, so any more than that in bonuses is unused

There is a situation situation that arises all too frequently:

9) if a tape has multiple stats on it and you want one that has a lower value than the highest listed stat mod (e.g. +23 grenade experimentation +20 armorsmith experimentation on a tape, of course you want the armorsmith experimentation to stick). Here the solution is based upon the order that the skill mods are listed on the SEA (e.g. is the +23 grenade experimentation first or is the +20 armorsmith experimentation first?).

There are two different solutions. One is to first place on the desired clothes item, a +1 stat mod tape of the type that you want to eliminate to allow for the more desirable stat mod to stick (e.g. a +1 grenade experimentation tape in the above example)--this only works if the less desirable yet higher number stat mod is listed before the one that you want (e.g. the tape above would have to have +23 grenade experimentation listed first). Second is to first place on the desired clothes item, a stat mod of the same type and value (or greater) as the less desirable yet higher number stat mod (e.g. a +23 grenade experimentation tape in the above example, if the +20 armorsmith experimentation was listed first).

So to refresh, say you have these tapes:

Tape #1
+23 grenade experimentation
+20 armorsmith experimentation

Tape #2
+20 armorsmith experimentation
+23 grenade experimentation

To get the +20 armorsmith experimentation to stick on Tape #1, you would need to put a +1 (or higher) grenade experimentation tape on the clothes item first, then put Tape #1 on an item. To get the +20 armorsmith experimentation to stick on Tape #2, you would need to put a +23 (or higher) grenade experimentation tape on the clothes item first, then Tape #2. In both cases 2 sockets are necessary

What if there are 3 stats but the lowest of the three is the one you want to stick? Follows the same rules as above. I will illustrate with an example.

Tape #3
+25 surveying
+24 droid complexity
+23 weaponsmith experimentation

Tape #4
+23 weaponsmith experimentation
+25 surveying
+24 droid complexity

Tape #5
+24 droid complexity
+23 weaponsmith experimentation
+25 surveying

You of course would want weaponsmith experimentation. So on Tape #3 to get the weaponsmith experimentation to stick you would place a +1 surveying tape, then a +1 droid complexity tape, then Tape #3 on the item of clothes you want it on (making sure it has 3 sockets to start), and you will get your +23 weaponsmith experimentation to stick. On Tape #4, you would have to place a +25 surveying tape on first, then a +24 droid complexity tape, then Tape #4 on, to get the +23 weaponsmith experimentation to stick. On Tape #5, both solutions apply, you would put a +1 droid complexity tape on first, then put a +25 surveying on, then put Tape #5 on, to get the +23 weaponsmith experimentation to stick.

Yes, I know that examine shows them alphabetically, but I decided to illustrate this rule with these examples as the rule is still correct.

Use at your own risk, as any future patch may totally mess this up.


Types of socketed clothes items that a human male can wear that would allow for the maximum number of skill stat enhanced pieces are hat, belt, bandolier (can't wear a backpack with this), shirt, jacket/duster/cloak/robe(belts with these look like a hula hoop surrounding you), pants, gloves (short gloves as longer gloves don't allow for wearing a jacket), boots, so a maximum of 8 pieces with with 4 sockets each for skill tapes. Armor for a human male, composite armor with nine pieces, a mabari armored belt, a ubese armored shirt, a ubese bandolier, allows for 12 pieces with 4 sockets each for armor attachments.

I hope that anyone that has tested 50 or more of these can let me know if this is 100% accurate.

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Jerzee <Mor do Kuli>

Edited by - JerzeeG on 25/03/2005 14:38:19
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Whom
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Posted - 24/03/2005 :  12:40:07  Show Profile  Send Whom an ICQ Message Send Whom a Private Message  Reply with Quote
koukam ze jedine BE tam nema nic :(
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Sagger
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Posted - 24/03/2005 :  23:04:10  Show Profile  Visit Sagger's Homepage  Send Sagger an ICQ Message Send Sagger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
dobry no, par milionku v hajzlu

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Arnie
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Posted - 25/03/2005 :  11:58:59  Show Profile  Send Arnie an ICQ Message Send Arnie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
povidej mi o tom
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JerzeeG
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krecek

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Posted - 25/03/2005 :  13:25:28  Show Profile  Send JerzeeG an ICQ Message Send JerzeeG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jo a to me jeste rozesmeji lide, co chteji za CA typu clothing nebo droid experimentaton radove statisice az miliony..

Jerzee <Mor do Kuli>
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