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Little
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Posted - 01/08/2006 :  09:45:19  Show Profile  Send Little an ICQ Message Send Little a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rakhen
Dostal jsem se i na 2500, akorát to málokdy přežiješ :D Pochopitelně jako fury a ork. Žil jsem skoro deset sekund, a po té ráně za 11k co sem pak chyt bloodcraze neregeneroval :D. Každopádně těch 10 sekund slávy bylo dps přes 1600 bez recklessness ;)

Jinak bloodcraze je fajn na grindění, pokud máš ~6k HP tak už to léčí celkem za dost. V PvP je k ničemu, v instanci... někdy se hodí ale celkem useless, je to vyloženě grind talent.


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Nevypada to ze by umiral a je to def war a neni tam packa, juju power ani elixir of giants atd :)

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Colldor
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Posted - 01/08/2006 :  20:26:18  Show Profile  Send Colldor an ICQ Message Send Colldor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja jsem se s untamed dotlacil na 2480 :p

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Warlord
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Miralis

892 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2006 :  08:32:16  Show Profile  Send Warlord an ICQ Message Send Warlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
chvili mi trvalo, nez mi doslo, jak muze nekdo mit 2500AP... nj kdyz procne UTB a jeste Crusader, tak to musi byt peklo... uz jen ta zakladni dmg z obrazku 757-855
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mischu
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Posted - 15/08/2006 :  22:20:10  Show Profile Send mischu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mám tu takovýto hybrida talent na solo občas raid instance jen PVE no PVP, zkritizujte esi je to vůbec k čemu. Zbraně štít + meč.

Arms Talents - 14 point(s)

Improved Heroic Strike - rank 3/3
Deflection - rank 5/5
Tactical Mastery - rank 5/5
Anger Management - rank 1/1


Fury Talents - 11 point(s)

Cruelty - rank 5/5
Unbridled Wrath - rank 5/5
Piercing Howl - rank 1/1


Protection Talents - 26 point(s)

Shield Specialization - rank 5/5
Anticipation - rank 5/5
Improved Bloodrage - rank 2/2
Iron Will - rank 1/5
Last Stand - rank 1/1
Improved Shield Block - rank 3/3
Improved Sunder Armor - rank 3/3
Improved Taunt - rank 2/2
Concussion Blow - rank 1/1
Improved Shield Bash - rank 2/2
One-Handed Weapon Specialization - rank 1/5


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Rakhen
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Posted - 16/08/2006 :  00:21:23  Show Profile Send Rakhen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mischu

Mám tu takovýto hybrida talent na solo občas raid instance jen PVE no PVP, zkritizujte esi je to vůbec k čemu. Zbraně štít + meč.

Arms Talents - 14 point(s)

Improved Heroic Strike - rank 3/3
Deflection - rank 5/5
Tactical Mastery - rank 5/5
Anger Management - rank 1/1


Fury Talents - 11 point(s)

Cruelty - rank 5/5
Unbridled Wrath - rank 5/5
Piercing Howl - rank 1/1


Protection Talents - 26 point(s)

Shield Specialization - rank 5/5
Anticipation - rank 5/5
Improved Bloodrage - rank 2/2
Iron Will - rank 1/5
Last Stand - rank 1/1
Improved Shield Block - rank 3/3
Improved Sunder Armor - rank 3/3
Improved Taunt - rank 2/2
Concussion Blow - rank 1/1
Improved Shield Bash - rank 2/2
One-Handed Weapon Specialization - rank 1/5



No, to mi přijde jako build co kombinuje nevýhody dps wara a tanka ;) Nemáš instantspecku => nemáš damage
Nemáš 1h specku => nemáš damage ani whitehitama
Nemáš ani ten blbej shieldslam => nemůžeš pořádně solovat ani jako protwar (ok, solovat a protwar je v jedné větě trochu úlet ale nvm)
Nemáš imp. overpower takže nemáš ani lowrage damage
Iron will 1/5 je vyhozenej bod, buď všecko nebo nic
Imp. shieldblock 3/3 jsou vyhozené talenty, 2. a 3. talent nedělaj nic víc než prodlužují čas kterej by ti vydržel block kdybys nedostával hity, jenže on ti ten block stejně zmizí dřív

To bych radši udělal nějakej 31/5/15 nebo /4/16 nebo 3/17 aby byl aspoň MS, nebo šel rovnou do full prot. S tímhle hybridem budeš takovej univerzál ale ve všem k ničemu.
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Little
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Posted - 16/08/2006 :  07:13:34  Show Profile  Send Little an ICQ Message Send Little a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rakhen
S tímhle hybridem budeš takovej univerzál ale ve všem k ničemu.


On bude hrat druida?

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Firian
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Posted - 16/08/2006 :  09:18:04  Show Profile Send Firian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mischu

Mám tu takovýto hybrida talent na solo občas raid instance jen PVE no PVP, zkritizujte esi je to vůbec k čemu. Zbraně štít + meč.

Arms Talents - 14 point(s)

Improved Heroic Strike - rank 3/3
Deflection - rank 5/5
Tactical Mastery - rank 5/5
Anger Management - rank 1/1


Fury Talents - 11 point(s)

Cruelty - rank 5/5
Unbridled Wrath - rank 5/5
Piercing Howl - rank 1/1


Protection Talents - 26 point(s)

Shield Specialization - rank 5/5
Anticipation - rank 5/5
Improved Bloodrage - rank 2/2
Iron Will - rank 1/5
Last Stand - rank 1/1
Improved Shield Block - rank 3/3
Improved Sunder Armor - rank 3/3
Improved Taunt - rank 2/2
Concussion Blow - rank 1/1
Improved Shield Bash - rank 2/2
One-Handed Weapon Specialization - rank 1/5





Taky mi to přijde že jsi to nějak rozházel do všech stran a nemáš tam žádné schopné talenty ani z jedné... chtělo by to se víc zaměřit na jednu stránku a z těch ostatních si vybrat to lepší ne to horší ;-)


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mischu
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Posted - 16/08/2006 :  10:18:07  Show Profile Send mischu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No tak změna

Arms Talents - 34 point(s)

Improved Heroic Strike - rank 3/3
Deflection - rank 5/5
Improved Rend - rank 3/3
Tactical Mastery - rank 5/5
Improved Overpower - rank 2/2
Anger Management - rank 1/1
Deep Wounds - rank 3/3
Impale - rank 2/2
Sweeping Strikes - rank 1/1
Sword Specialization - rank 5/5
Improved Hamstring - rank 3/3
Mortal Strike - rank 1/1


Fury Talents - 5 point(s)

Cruelty - rank 5/5


Protection Talents - 12 point(s)

Shield Specialization - rank 5/5
Improved Bloodrage - rank 2/2
Iron Will - rank 3/5
Last Stand - rank 1/1
Improved Shield Block - rank 1/3
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mischu
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Posted - 16/08/2006 :  10:21:35  Show Profile Send mischu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nebo 2

Arms Talents - 15 point(s)

Improved Heroic Strike - rank 2/3
Deflection - rank 5/5
Tactical Mastery - rank 5/5
Improved Overpower - rank 2/2
Anger Management - rank 1/1


Fury Talents - 5 point(s)

Cruelty - rank 5/5


Protection Talents - 31 point(s)

Shield Specialization - rank 5/5
Improved Bloodrage - rank 2/2
Iron Will - rank 5/5
Last Stand - rank 1/1
Improved Shield Block - rank 1/3
Defiance - rank 5/5
Improved Sunder Armor - rank 3/3
Improved Taunt - rank 2/2
Concussion Blow - rank 1/1
One-Handed Weapon Specialization - rank 5/5
Shield Slam - rank 1/1

Tak kerej na PVE spíš solo ale i do dungu ?

Edited by - mischu on 16/08/2006 13:01:53
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Warlord
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Miralis

892 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2006 :  15:33:38  Show Profile  Send Warlord an ICQ Message Send Warlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hele na levelovani nebo solovani aka grind je stejne nejlepsi nejaky high dmg output build a ne protwar nebo jeho hybrid, imho.

udajne uplne nejlepsi na levelovani je dual wield furry warr s buildem neco jako 17/34/0... jestli uz das jedno, dve cisilka vic do arms nebo furry uz je fuk..

/edit typo

Edited by - Warlord on 16/08/2006 15:34:21
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Rahman
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Posted - 16/08/2006 :  15:53:35  Show Profile Send Rahman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
V protection tree jsou jen 2 opravdu zajimave talenty. Jeden z nich je defiance (+15% aggro output), druhy je shield slam. Defiance je ciste na tankovani (drzeni aggra), shield slam je na tankovani a krom toho se s nim da celkem rozumne solovat v def stanci (od posledniho patche).
Pokud te bavi, ze ti mobik nic nedela a ty ho casem ultuces, tak urcite shield specialization 5/5, improved shield block 1/3, shield slam 1/1, zbytek je fuk. Pokud chces moba rychle zabit a spolehat na to, ze ti proste nic udelat nestihne, tak do prot nechod vubec ;-)
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Eagle
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Posted - 16/08/2006 :  16:58:44  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Warlord

hele na levelovani nebo solovani aka grind je stejne nejlepsi nejaky high dmg output build a ne protwar nebo jeho hybrid, imho.

udajne uplne nejlepsi na levelovani je dual wield furry warr s buildem neco jako 17/34/0... jestli uz das jedno, dve cisilka vic do arms nebo furry uz je fuk..

/edit typo

rozhodne je na levelovani nejlepsi 17/34/0 ... to se pak dobre leveluje ... jen uz bohuzel neni kam :) takze je jedno jestli das jeden nebo dva bodiky jinam :)

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Colldor
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Posted - 17/08/2006 :  09:33:28  Show Profile  Send Colldor an ICQ Message Send Colldor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Warlord

hele na levelovani nebo solovani aka grind je stejne nejlepsi nejaky high dmg output build a ne protwar nebo jeho hybrid, imho.

udajne uplne nejlepsi na levelovani je dual wield furry warr s buildem neco jako 17/34/0... jestli uz das jedno, dve cisilka vic do arms nebo furry uz je fuk..

/edit typo



Jop dw fury je na grind nejlepsi, ovsem do dw fury nejit pokud clovek neni schopnej mit alespon 7-8 na hit a 1200AP s shoutem... pac to nema cenu a arms build se imho vypalti vic pokud ten pozadavek nejde splnit v blizky dobe.

Levelovani s dual w neni spatny ale imho s arms buildem to jde lip bo katastrofalni miss...

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mischu
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Posted - 17/08/2006 :  11:59:55  Show Profile Send mischu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nejde ani o to jak to bude vypadat na konci bo na 60 to určitě budu párkrát překopávat ale kam to vrážet ze začátku ? Vše do Arms pak Fury či to střídat 5B sem 5B tam ?
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Warlord
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Miralis

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Posted - 17/08/2006 :  17:43:50  Show Profile  Send Warlord an ICQ Message Send Warlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mischu

Nejde ani o to jak to bude vypadat na konci bo na 60 to určitě budu párkrát překopávat ale kam to vrážet ze začátku ? Vše do Arms pak Fury či to střídat 5B sem 5B tam ?



ja bych zacal 5 bodu do furry do cruelty, pak bych dal 31 do arms a pak zbytek do furry
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 03/09/2006 :  11:44:38  Show Profile  Send Shemiramoth an ICQ Message Send Shemiramoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mnozi warriori videli a kdo nevidel, tak at se podiva.

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=8329

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Seth
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Posted - 11/09/2006 :  17:02:29  Show Profile  Send Seth an ICQ Message Send Seth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Colldor

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

quote:
Originally posted by Rakhen
ad megadeath: není, taky jsem si to myslel. Nezapomeň že rozdíl mezi dát a nedát HS není damage HS, ale jen rozdíl co ti HS přidá (tzn. damage weapon + 157 myslím?) a fakt že s +9 hit ten HS hitne kdežto whitehit může missnout pokud jsi DW.


ano, vzdyt o to prece jde, pokud budes spamovat BT/WW a jeste k tomu mit perma zaplej HS, tak das prece nejvic dmg co muzes, nebo je jeste neco co muzes udelat pro to, abys dal vic?

hamstring... is your frined ;)
tohle jsem taky pouzival, ale tak nejak pri ohlaseni zmeny ve WF totemu jsem to prestal pouzivat, vim ze to jeste funguje, ale nejak jsem si zvyknul na neco jineho a taky to jde

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 11/09/2006 :  17:04:20  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no zatim jakozto alik hamstring + wf totem nemam... nehlede na to ze i pri tomhle zpusobu hry se ti vzdycky jeste k tomu vyplati mit zaplej HS ;) coz je to o cem mluvim... proc nespamovat HS kdyz to proste zvedne tu dmg ...
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Seth
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Gig

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Posted - 11/09/2006 :  17:12:39  Show Profile  Send Seth an ICQ Message Send Seth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jo jeste k tomu hamstringu....
pouzival jsem ho v momente kdy jsem nemel rage na specku typu BT WW a pak jsem cekam na WF proc, popripade crit a flurry a pak uz to bylo jedno

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Posted - 11/09/2006 :  17:31:21  Show Profile  Send Seth an ICQ Message Send Seth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
2 Karkulka: Stoun je dobrej, ale stejne je mozne, ze cipnes za nejakou dobu i podruhe

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Colldor
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Posted - 11/09/2006 :  17:50:00  Show Profile  Send Colldor an ICQ Message Send Colldor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

no zatim jakozto alik hamstring + wf totem nemam... nehlede na to ze i pri tomhle zpusobu hry se ti vzdycky jeste k tomu vyplati mit zaplej HS ;) coz je to o cem mluvim... proc nespamovat HS kdyz to proste zvedne tu dmg ...



No vono z toho hamstringu procuje i flurry coz je taky docela important ... u aliku je to horsi bo wf ale i tak.

EDIT: nebo je i ten flurry uz jen white hit? :)

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Edited by - Colldor on 11/09/2006 17:56:26
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Mefisto
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Posted - 11/09/2006 :  18:56:14  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ad aggro)

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kk ?

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Seth
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Posted - 11/09/2006 :  19:36:10  Show Profile  Send Seth an ICQ Message Send Seth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
pouzivate nekdo -aggro enchant na plast? Umi to vubec nekdo na DT?

edit: jo dalsi otazka jenom tak pro zajimavost: pouzivate edgemasters? a kdyz ne tak proc?

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Edited by - Seth on 11/09/2006 20:40:06
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 11/09/2006 :  21:02:23  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nejsem si jistej, ale tusim, ze u nas v guilde je nepouziva nikdo
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Colldor
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Posted - 11/09/2006 :  21:14:22  Show Profile  Send Colldor an ICQ Message Send Colldor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shemiramoth

Mnozi warriori videli a kdo nevidel, tak at se podiva.

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=8329

Muzete zavzpominat na dobu, kdy epix nemel prakticky nikdo.



Ahhhh the memories :((((

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Rakhen
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Posted - 11/09/2006 :  21:15:01  Show Profile Send Rakhen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seth

pouzivate nekdo -aggro enchant na plast? Umi to vubec nekdo na DT?

edit: jo dalsi otazka jenom tak pro zajimavost: pouzivate edgemasters? a kdyz ne tak proc?



Ne, protože orčice exhighwarlord, takže MH i OH highwarlord's cleaver a rukavice z warlordskýho setu snižují cenu hamstringu...
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Mefisto
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  07:45:17  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
btw. dokazete se predstavit human furywara s kombinaci
gressil - 138-257 73,1 dps (2,7 speed)
+15 sta +40 ap

+
hungering cold - 76-143 73 dps (1,5 speed)
140 armor +14 sta + 6 swords

uplne se mi z toho zveda kufr :p

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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  08:06:25  Show Profile Send Rakhen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto

btw. dokazete se predstavit human furywara s kombinaci
gressil - 138-257 73,1 dps (2,7 speed)
+15 sta +40 ap

+
hungering cold - 76-143 73 dps (1,5 speed)
140 armor +14 sta + 6 swords

uplne se mi z toho zveda kufr :p



Ten OH bych volil jinej, nepočítá se ti z něj weapon specka takže tam můžeš mít cokoli a vzal bych spíš něco s lepšíma statama - 6swords je pro humana imo zbytečnej overkill, stamku a armor moc nevyužiješ. To radši něco co má hit, crit, ap/str.

Jo a btw - orc i troll jsou pořád lepší. Orc má weapon specku taky a navíc bloodfury, troll zas berserking a obojí je slušnej dps boost a navíc si ho můžeš "odpálit" kdy chceš což se docela hodí ;)
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Mefisto
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  08:23:13  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
overkill ?
jiste vis ze maximalni bonus ziskas +10 ( proti 63mobum )
pokud je 50% tvy dmg bily pak +5 swords je nejakejch 3,5-4% dmg

tenhle sword ma 73 dps a k tomu +6 swords ... a muzes nosit gaunlets of annihiliation a ne ty fialovy lvl 40 crapy

ad rasa) a ty koukam pravidelne dostavas tranquil totem :p btw. neexistuje zadnej jinej offhand s 70+ dps snad krom ty fisty ze saphirona ... uz jen to dps samotny dela tenhle 'tanking' sword vybornym offhandem

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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  14:50:48  Show Profile  Send Colldor an ICQ Message Send Colldor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
U trolla je fajn ze se ten berserking stacuje s flurry takze je to docela boost ... i kdyz orc a human jsou porad lepsi:)

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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  15:08:40  Show Profile  Send Shemiramoth an ICQ Message Send Shemiramoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Colldor

U trolla je fajn ze se ten berserking stacuje s flurry takze je to docela boost ... i kdyz orc a human jsou porad lepsi:)

Very funny bude Iron Will v Armsech. To uz budu resistit uplne kazdej stun . Uz tedka to resistim jak prase. Kdyz navic budu moct ustat charm od warlocka ..haha bye bye succuba combo.

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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  15:53:36  Show Profile  Send Colldor an ICQ Message Send Colldor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shemiramoth

quote:
Originally posted by Colldor

U trolla je fajn ze se ten berserking stacuje s flurry takze je to docela boost ... i kdyz orc a human jsou porad lepsi:)

Very funny bude Iron Will v Armsech. To uz budu resistit uplne kazdej stun . Uz tedka to resistim jak prase. Kdyz navic budu moct ustat charm od warlocka ..haha bye bye succuba combo.



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Seth
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  16:35:08  Show Profile  Send Seth an ICQ Message Send Seth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Colldor

To muzes i ted ... http://www.thottbot.com/?i=11666

husta veccicka, skoda ze mi ten Q nejde udelat
vyplati se asi jen pro DW, pac si nedokazu predstavit switchovat za 2h kazdou chvilku

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Warlord
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  17:13:41  Show Profile  Send Warlord an ICQ Message Send Warlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seth

quote:
Originally posted by Colldor

To muzes i ted ... http://www.thottbot.com/?i=11666

husta veccicka, skoda ze mi ten Q nejde udelat
vyplati se asi jen pro DW, pac si nedokazu predstavit switchovat za 2h kazdou chvilku



jen pro dw? vysvetli
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Mefisto
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  17:18:47  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Warlord

quote:
Originally posted by Seth

quote:
Originally posted by Colldor

To muzes i ted ... http://www.thottbot.com/?i=11666

husta veccicka, skoda ze mi ten Q nejde udelat
vyplati se asi jen pro DW, pac si nedokazu predstavit switchovat za 2h kazdou chvilku



jen pro dw? vysvetli


je to offhand

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  18:43:02  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
je to jen na flexovani do duelu, normalne useless, urcite nebudes behat po svete/BG s timhle offhandem a pokud si reknes - hele tamhle je lock/hunter, rychle si to vemu tak mas 30 sec cooldown nez to muzes pouzit... ale na flexovani ve videu fakt dobry
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Seth
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  19:22:10  Show Profile  Send Seth an ICQ Message Send Seth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
prave si myslim, ze je to HODNE pouzitelne treba do AB, kde clovek brani jeden node, tak vi, ze proste jednou na ten fajt stejne dojde, a takhle je schopnej to ubranit treba i sam

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  19:32:54  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seth

prave si myslim, ze je to HODNE pouzitelne treba do AB, kde clovek brani jeden node, tak vi, ze proste jednou na ten fajt stejne dojde, a takhle je schopnej to ubranit treba i sam


ubranit node muzes i bez tohohle na dost dlouho, abys privolal pomoc
pravidlo c.1: stuj v zerk stance, aby te nemohl rogue sapnout
pravidlo c.2: stuj cca 20 yardu od vlajky - pokud te rogue blindne nebo warlock seducne tak uz nemaj dost casu na to, aby dobehli k vlajce a sebrali ji, aniz bys je mohl chargenout/strelit lukem nez to dodelaj, jelikoz tyhle efekty trvaj holt kratsi dobu
pravidlo c.3: huntera se vyplati jen otravovat/nezabijet (strilejte do nej puskou pokud pude k vlajce, on bude jen cumet proc se nic nedeje a proc nejste v jeho pasti), tohle otravovani vam vydrzi dost dlouho na to, aby to vzdal a strelil do vas serpent sting pak uz na nej muzete, nebo ziskate proste dost casu na to aby prijela posila

s temahle jednoduchejma pravidlama sem se dostal na rank14 aniz by mi sebrali byt jen jedinkrat vlajku za warra
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plussminuss
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Posted - 13/09/2006 :  08:46:52  Show Profile Send plussminuss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no ja to delam tak, ze prijedu k vlajce, zacnu sroubovat a soucasne dame seduce, seberu vlajku a rozloucim se s warrem
davat seduce kilometr od vlajky je imho nesmysl, sucuba musi byt co nejdele v utajeni a seduce prvni vydrzi 12s minimalne

Edited by - plussminuss on 13/09/2006 08:47:28
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SAS1939
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Medulo mě ten blind nevychází ani když někoho blindnu přímo u vlajky dycky je o chlup,už už to mám:o)

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 13/09/2006 :  09:20:52  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plussminuss

no ja to delam tak, ze prijedu k vlajce, zacnu sroubovat a soucasne dame seduce, seberu vlajku a rozloucim se s warrem
davat seduce kilometr od vlajky je imho nesmysl, sucuba musi byt co nejdele v utajeni a seduce prvni vydrzi 12s minimalne


pokud mezi tvoji prijezdovou trasou a vlajkou stoji warr, tak bud nedojedes, nebo das seduce "predcasne" ;)
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plussminuss
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Posted - 13/09/2006 :  09:49:45  Show Profile Send plussminuss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

quote:
Originally posted by plussminuss

no ja to delam tak, ze prijedu k vlajce, zacnu sroubovat a soucasne dame seduce, seberu vlajku a rozloucim se s warrem
davat seduce kilometr od vlajky je imho nesmysl, sucuba musi byt co nejdele v utajeni a seduce prvni vydrzi 12s minimalne


pokud mezi tvoji prijezdovou trasou a vlajkou stoji warr, tak bud nedojedes, nebo das seduce "predcasne" ;)



proc bych nedojel? z mounta sesedat tesne pred vlajkou, kdyz je potreba tak death coil a je to :)
mam rad warry a vim co si na ne muzu dovolit warlock + sucuba vs warr tj v 99% pripadu free kill.
jenze ted posledni dobou je to horsi, ptze u vlajky casto nezustava jen jeden a kdyz uz, tak nejakej ud trouba, takze nejdriv boj
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 13/09/2006 :  10:20:32  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no vidis a pokud to dojde na boj, tak ztracis cas a o tem v AB jde :)
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plussminuss
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Posted - 13/09/2006 :  10:26:19  Show Profile Send plussminuss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
to jo :) ale mluvil si o tom, kdyz tam budes sam u vlajky a s lolkem tam pojedu :) a ty nejsi ud warr s wotf ne? ikdyz do me budes rubat, tak k ty vlajce dojdu a az tam teprve seduce a sroubovat.
jenze vetsina warru me necha v klidu dojet, sesednout sroubovat / seduce zaroven, ptze cekaj co se bude dit :)

mam taky warra a kdyz vidim lolka a nevidim peta (tzn ma sucubu) tak se mu taky radsi vyhnu, nepujdu preci na smrt :)to bych rekl, ze warr ma vic sanci proti magovi nez lock + succy
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 13/09/2006 :  10:50:49  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ze locka se sukubou neporazi nikdo, pokud to ten lock aspon trochu umi, to vime vsichni, to tu resit nemusis, blizzard zas myslel prdeli kdyz vyrabel locka
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plussminuss
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Posted - 13/09/2006 :  10:56:56  Show Profile Send plussminuss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

ze locka se sukubou neporazi nikdo, pokud to ten lock aspon trochu umi, to vime vsichni, to tu resit nemusis, blizzard zas myslel prdeli kdyz vyrabel locka


priest v prstem v nose, kdyz neni lama, zvlast kdyz je to ud a jeste shadow form
priesti jsou nejvetsi sfine ale i holy priest, ten se staci v pohode uhealovat a ja potom muzu tak jedine wandku vsechno zalezi na stesti (cti critu).
ale uz sme zase mimo tema jezis, nevim proc kdyz sem v praci, tak tolik flamuju
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 13/09/2006 :  11:06:12  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
za priesta sem zadnyho nepotkal, alici co hrajou BG na drakthulu hrajou spis s felhunterem
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Firian
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quote:
Originally posted by Mefisto

btw. dokazete se predstavit human furywara s kombinaci
gressil - 138-257 73,1 dps (2,7 speed)
+15 sta +40 ap

+
hungering cold - 76-143 73 dps (1,5 speed)
140 armor +14 sta + 6 swords

uplne se mi z toho zveda kufr :p


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Mefisto
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Posted - 13/09/2006 :  13:57:55  Show Profile  Send Mefisto an ICQ Message Send Mefisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
rogue vs lock se locka nebojim, resp. muzu to zahrat tak ze se me ten lock ani nedotkne ale holt to stoji cooldowny

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