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Mefisto
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 23:04:08
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full 2.3 patch notes
ten post je strasne dlouhej takze
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288042225&sid=1
a jedna perlicka
- Weapon Expertise (Protection) renamed Combat Expertise, now increases expertise by 1/2/3/4/5 and total Stamina by 2/4/6/8/10%.
*laughing* ted jen kde na to ksakru mam vzit talent points kdyz je ta zasrana parry tak hluboko v ret :(
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Cuk0r
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Mefisto
Junior Member
 
767 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 00:15:52
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mno zbavovat se jako tank mitigace .. no nevim, ja spis dam pryc body z recko, ze single bosse to stejne moc neprocuje, a precision bude ted i spellhit takze to bude more interesting |
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Cuk0r
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 01:00:38
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mno 5/5 anticipation mas 0,8dodge, parry, block,miss a samozrejme moznost si dat na gear viacej dodge/parry/block namiesto def kvoli crit imunity
ale ono ked mas slusny equip tak defense tam mas uz dostatok a akorat si strkas do dier stamina gemy ;). Ak bude precision aj spellhit tak rozhodne 3/3 a ubrat nekde inde este a uplne sa vykaslat na Anticipation imo.
reckoning som si nechal z dovodu aoe tankovania a grindingu...je to neco specificke, tankadin trademark ale toto je subjektivne. Ked tankujes zvacsa single tak reckoning chybat nebude.
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celdric
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 07:46:45
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nechci nic rikat...ale neni tech statu uz trosku moc? jako by meleri i tak nemeli dost jinejch starosti o co se starat...(ap, crit, hit rating, stamina...)
- Expertise: We have added a new stat and associated rating called expertise and expertise rating. Expertise rating converts to expertise at the same rate that weapon skill rating formerly converted at. Each point of expertise reduces the chance for your attacks to be dodged or parried by 0.25%. |
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Gwinni
Starting Member
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 07:59:01
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quote: Originally posted by Mefisto
precision bude ted i spellhit takze to bude more interesting
to tam teda nikde nevidim, každopádně Combat Expertise mi přidá tak 150 staminy v raidu |
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celdric
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 08:02:56
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quote: Originally posted by Gwinni
to tam teda nikde nevidim, každopádně Combat Expertise mi přidá tak 150 staminy v raidu
a to ti prijde malo nebo hodne? (150 staminy = 1500 hp, imo je to rozdil base health war x pala ne?)
edit: ale ty zmeny u shamana jsou rozhodne velky... obzvlast ze FS nebude na DR me prijde dost pikantni... |
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Edited by - celdric on 12/10/2007 08:06:01 |
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Gwinni
Starting Member
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 08:17:55
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Právě víc než sem čekal, teď se dostanu unbuff přibližně (cca -200hp) na stejný hp jak war, buffed na víc |
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celdric
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 08:31:57
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quote: Originally posted by Gwinni
Právě víc než sem čekal, teď se dostanu unbuff přibližně (cca -200hp) na stejný hp jak war, buffed na víc
hlavne to nerikej rahmanovi ;-) |
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Jedi_Knight
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 10:31:11
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quote: Originally posted by Gwinni
Právě víc než sem čekal, teď se dostanu unbuff přibližně (cca -200hp) na stejný hp jak war, buffed na víc
Šlo o to vyrovnat ten nepoměr mezi Warrem a Palátem, nikoliv ho rozbít najednou ve prospěch paladinů. Ta změna je moc fajn. |
[Ianek][Paladin][Burning Blade][World of Warcraft]
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Edited by - Jedi_Knight on 12/10/2007 10:32:44 |
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Seth
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2564 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 10:34:27
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vyhrabal nekdo nekde resources na toho engy mounta? |
Seth Forgotten
bo=protoze!
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Mefisto
Junior Member
 
767 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 10:45:56
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quote: Originally posted by Cuk0rreckoning som si nechal z dovodu aoe tankovania a grindingu
na aoe tank recko nepotrebujes, tankujes to stejne hlavne pres consecration ret auru, sanc a holy shield
no a ad harveni ... http://thottbot.com/i27529
LOH na 2 minutovym CD, doby seal of light jsou s timhle trinketem pryc :) |
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Marigold
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3590 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 10:48:42
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quote: Originally posted by celdric
nechci nic rikat...ale neni tech statu uz trosku moc? jako by meleri i tak nemeli dost jinejch starosti o co se starat...(ap, crit, hit rating, stamina...)
- Expertise: We have added a new stat and associated rating called expertise and expertise rating. Expertise rating converts to expertise at the same rate that weapon skill rating formerly converted at. Each point of expertise reduces the chance for your attacks to be dodged or parried by 0.25%.
Pokud tomu dobře rozumím tak "expertise" nahradí všechny weapon skilly na itemech.
Tedy nově vznikne expertise, ale odstraní se spousta weapon skillu (swords, daggers, ...).
Mě osobně dost překvapily šachy u wara - prohození Improved Intercept and Weapon Mastery, prohození Sweeping Strikes and Deathwish... Zajímavé. Až na to že ten intercept teď bude místo 20 bodů až 25 bodů ve stromě  |
Edited by - Marigold on 12/10/2007 10:49:27 |
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Seth
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Shatteren
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 12:55:04
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No ja jsem z toho warra tak trochu rozrusenej, neni nekde podrobnejsi info o tech swapech? |
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Marigold
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 14:12:54
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Nic víc než tohle:
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Warrior
* Charge will work more often when targets are up against unpathable areas like walls and poles. * Defiance (Protection) now also grants 2/4/6 weapon expertise. * Devastate (Protection) now combines the effects of Sunder Armor into its effect. It is also now affected by all talents and items that affect Sunder Armor. * Disarm is now subject to diminishing returns in PvP. * Improved Berserker Stance (Fury) now also reduces all threat caused while in Berserker Stance by 2/4/6/8/10% * Improved Intercept and Weapon Mastery have swapped locations in the talent trees. * Intervene will no longer place you in combat. * Hamstring now has a 10 second duration when used on PvP targets. * Mace Specialization (Arms) now has a reduced chance to occur but generates 7 rage instead of 6. * Pummel: Interrupting a channeled spell with this ability will now always properly prevent casting spells from the same spell school for 4 sec. * Shield Bash: Interrupting a channeled spell with this ability will now always properly prevent casting spells from the same spell school for 6 sec. * Shield Slam (Protection) now always tries to dispel one Magic effect on the target. * Sweeping Strikes and Deathwish have swapped locations in the talent trees. * Sweeping Strikes (Fury) now lasts 10 seconds and affects your next 10 swings. * Tactical Mastery: This talent also now grants greatly increased threat from Mortal Strike and Bloodthirst when in Defensive Stance. * Weapon Mastery (Arms) now reduces duration of Disarm effects against you by 25/50% rather than giving you a 50% chance to avoid or full immunity to Disarm effects. * Whirlwind: This ability now strikes with both weapons when a Warrior is dual-wielding.
Hamstring na 10 sekund - taky "prima"... Ještě mu dát diminishing returns a bude úplně dokonalej :)
Ten Shield Slam jsem nějak nepochopil... Jako že to bude 100%, ne 50%? Ne že by to nebylo jedno, když hlavní dispeller teď bude hunter  |
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huhla
New Member

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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 14:25:40
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Guild Banks Introduced The Guild Bank is a shared repository for an entire guild and will be accessible through new NPC’s called guild bankers....
tak tohle se mi libi, zalozim svym pretizenym mulam gildu :-) a bude dalsi misto na shromazdovani matrose , takze kdybyste mel nekdo gildu na prodej tak se mi urcite ozvete (jsem liny shanet po og podpisy) |
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Rodier
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 06:44:14
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hmm mi prijde divny to s priestama Chastise (NEW) is now available to Dwarf and Draenei priests at level 20. Chastise causes Holy damage and incapacitates the target
jaktoze neco takoveho daj jenom alianci? |
First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave! Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.
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celdric
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 09:17:15
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quote: Originally posted by Rodier
hmm mi prijde divny to s priestama Chastise (NEW) is now available to Dwarf and Draenei priests at level 20. Chastise causes Holy damage and incapacitates the target
jaktoze neco takoveho daj jenom alianci?
boze boze :-)
tak pro tvou informaci...priesti maj takzvany racial spelly...a tohle je pomerne velkej nerf, protoze drive velice uzitecny fear ward jim byl odebran a dan vsem priestum a nerfnut jako krava... a dostali jakysi semiuzitecny dmg kouzlo, ktery bude holy priestum uplne na picu.... z racialek bych rek, ze tedkonc zustava asi nejlepsi ta plague u undeadu...a horda konecne prestane whinovat na fear ward a ali tanci se nauci stance dance...
je to svym zpusobem i neprimy nerf paladin a druid tanku na fear based encounterech... |
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Aramir
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 12:52:03
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quote: Originally posted by celdric
je to svym zpusobem i neprimy nerf paladin a druid tanku na fear based encounterech...
Než přijde Deathknight, který se nebojí ničeho :) |
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Gurrshael
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 16:06:42
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quote: Originally posted by celdric je to svym zpusobem i neprimy nerf paladin a druid tanku na fear based encounterech...
To záleží na úhlu pohledu, já bych řekl, že díky fear wardu dostupnému všem priestům je to buff. Samozřejmě easymode aliance to bude vidět jinak :) |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
 
767 Posts |
Posted - 13/10/2007 : 16:23:50
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quote: Originally posted by celdric
quote: Originally posted by Rodier
hmm mi prijde divny to s priestama Chastise (NEW) is now available to Dwarf and Draenei priests at level 20. Chastise causes Holy damage and incapacitates the target
jaktoze neco takoveho daj jenom alianci?
boze boze :-)
tak pro tvou informaci...priesti maj takzvany racial spelly...a tohle je pomerne velkej nerf, protoze drive velice uzitecny fear ward jim byl odebran a dan vsem priestum a nerfnut jako krava... a dostali jakysi semiuzitecny dmg kouzlo, ktery bude holy priestum uplne na picu.... z racialek bych rek, ze tedkonc zustava asi nejlepsi ta plague u undeadu...a horda konecne prestane whinovat na fear ward a ali tanci se nauci stance dance...
je to svym zpusobem i neprimy nerf paladin a druid tanku na fear based encounterech...
naopak, s FW tka jak ted je budu moct s 2ma priestama v klidu tankovat nightbana, trinket (2min) + bublina ani zdaleka nestacilo pokryt vsechny feary co tam jsou, tyhle 2 feary navic znamenaj ze to budu moct tankovat vcelku v klidu |
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celdric
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Posted - 13/10/2007 : 16:56:48
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njn je to samozrejme uhel pohledu...zalezi na castosti fearu na danem bossovi a mnozstvi priestu v raidu...
to ovsem asi nemela byt hlavni pointa me reakce na rodiera ;-) |
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Marigold
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Posted - 14/10/2007 : 20:00:48
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Jak víme tak Nightbana můžou v klidu tankovat dva druidi bez fear wardu, takže...
Navíc Blizzard přece už dávno prohlásil že v TBC instancích fear NEBUDE POUŽIT Takže pokud jste ho náhodou někde viděli tak se vám to nejspíš jen zdálo. |
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Jedi_Knight
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Posted - 14/10/2007 : 22:18:55
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No třeba do arén je to celkem boost Draenei a Dwarf priestů - ofc, že teď bude tým náchylnější na fear, ale každé CC navíc se hodí.
Speciálně já jsem za to do pětek moc a moc vděčnej. |
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tjtm
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113 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 13:29:10
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Budou veteransky veci stale ke koupi nebo uplne zmizi? Dal jsem se chtel zeptat na denni questy. Co bude jejich cilem a kolik honoru bude za jejich splneni? Nekde jsem cetl az 4K honoru, ale to mi prijde neskutecne moc...
EDIT: ted cumim na mmo a bude to jen 400 honoru... |
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Edited by - tjtm on 30/10/2007 13:42:07 |
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Shatteren
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 15:41:06
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"Jen" ?
Vsak to je vic nez dost, odpovida to tak 20ti HK a das si BG za kterej mas honor jeste v zakladu a jeste za to dostanes zaplaceno, imho je to luxus, ze nejakej ten BG daily q vubec je.
Nechtel bych ani videt tech 4k, no more free epics pls ! |
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tjtm
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 16:11:40
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K tem 4k je to opravdu jen. Ale i tak je to hodne pozitivni a ty gecka prijdou vhod.
Cilem predpokladam bude vyhrat to dane bgcko ne? A jeste jednou, nevi nekdo, jestli veteransky veci budou levnejsi a pujdou koupit? |
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Shatteren
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 16:28:21
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quote: Originally posted by tjtm
K tem 4k je to opravdu jen. Ale i tak je to hodne pozitivni a ty gecka prijdou vhod.
Cilem predpokladam bude vyhrat to dane bgcko ne? A jeste jednou, nevi nekdo, jestli veteransky veci budou levnejsi a pujdou koupit?
Jenze 4K honoru za 10minut prace bylo dost absurdni. Nejak jsem to nezkoumal, ale veteran veci se asi presunuly ke starymu vendorovi a vindicator k novymu. Nevim jak general veci. |
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