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paja2000
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2040 Posts |
 Posted - 13/09/2006 : 12:07:16
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drakyla - RL u Omni
mluvi s Irim - Admin zod/pande
[Drakyla]: heyas
To [Drakyla]: Hi
[Drakyla]: are you out in pand ?
To [Drakyla]: no
To [Drakyla]: no clue who is
[Drakyla]: can you find out which clan org is out in pand on our spawn and whos leading them please ?
To [Drakyla]: how you know its clan? ;P
[Drakyla]: its clan org .. i got info thats storm/cza and need to know is pajja leading those again ....
[Drakyla]: one of the HC members was going thru pand
To [Drakyla]: send a tell to pajja and ask
To [Drakyla]: but maybe why?
[Drakyla]: maybe why ? second time some raid like this screwing our turn . .and since pajja is admin in zodsnet i`m taking it very serious
To [Drakyla]: your turn?
[Drakyla]: yes its our turn for mids/tnh , zodsnet for sides
To [Drakyla]: didnt know we had splitted it like that..
To [Drakyla]: i have no ifno about that i just thought we did deals per time
[Drakyla]: its 1/1 .. has been gore for several days now
To [Drakyla]: who have you talked with about that?
[Drakyla]: its everyday like this kiri
To [Drakyla]: well
To [Drakyla]: its deals made at pop
[Drakyla]: you take mids/tnh .. next spawn we take them and so on
To [Drakyla]: its not something we do always
To [Drakyla]: sometimes me and coen have taken one side
[Drakyla]: i see ... thats official standing ?
To [Drakyla]: other anotehr side etc etc
To [Drakyla]: offical that deals are made before pop or so yes, we dont have a standard deal
To [Drakyla]: f.ex. like beast
[Drakyla]: well like beast or not ... just saw who was out there .. again ..
To [Drakyla]: well,
To [Drakyla]: doing ai at same time
To [Drakyla]: as i said we dont have any deal like that, we do deals before pops or like pop afte ror so
[Drakyla]: the problem is .. at the same issue like this last time .. he was told to warn any of the HC leaders in front .. and again no warning
To [Drakyla]: but I dont see the issue since he did not break any deals
To [Drakyla]: Well if you really think its a issue, wich i dont, talk with pajja directly since this have nothing to do with zodsnet
[Drakyla]: you know bevern correct ?
To [Drakyla]: Yes
To [Drakyla]: He is a Raidleader
[Drakyla]: you sure ? becouse his admin
To [Drakyla]: ah right he got promoted when i was gone
To [Drakyla]: yeah what about him?
[Drakyla]: moment talking with you and Ll at same time to see how exactly zods has been rolled
To [Drakyla]: ll?
[Drakyla]: lleilaa
[Drakyla]: admin in HC
To [Drakyla]: well can you tell me what its about bevern so i know if you should talk with pajja about this or not
To [Drakyla]: cause as i see it he didnt break any deals that zodsnet had made
[Drakyla]: the spawn before that they rolled the zods .. clans winned mids/tnh .. omnis got sides .. its common sense that next spawn we switch after this rolling (no one was sure whos turn was on mids)
To [Drakyla]: well 1. yeah it is 2. if a guild have people enough to move for middle and not side id let them move even if it was omni, been letting riders move middle several times 3. come on man, talk with pajja, he moved not zodsnet
[Drakyla]: after all zodsnet was first to complain that omnis get non-stop mids/tnh thats why started to be 1/1 for few days every bot to can start completing quests
[Drakyla]: the problem is pajja is admin .. he must know about any deals .. and this about the orgs screwing raidbots .. gotta have tochange soon but thats something coen/clan superadmins to deside when happends to be non-stop issue
To [Drakyla]: clan screwing raidbots? its raidbots that screws guilds, It is like that, not evne worth discussing that part. And pajja is admin yeah but he moved as guild now, and looked on what his guild+coop could handle, you know its not sure that a guild can hanle sides all the time. But now Im going afk if you want to discuss this further take it with pajja
To [Drakyla]: clan = giuld fiorst one
To [Drakyla]: back some if it is anything
[Drakyla]: nah not anything anymore .. thinking to offer for discussion about this orgs>raidbot to change since .. raidbot is for all orgs .. org raids are for big orgs only and with mobs on 6h it sux 1-3 orgs to screw everyone else ..
To [Drakyla]: No way
To [Drakyla]: Orgs > raidbots
To [Drakyla]: if an org can move alone let them
To [Drakyla]: you want to ruin all the fun for orgs?
[Drakyla]: its the opposite .. look at PVP and you gonna see the same
To [Drakyla]: you know how much drama that will stir up?
To [Drakyla]: you know how much shit that will start up?
[Drakyla]: i dont wanna ruin all the fun .. i want to give everyone same chance for phats
To [Drakyla]: raidbots DO NOT > guilds
[Drakyla]: ofcouse they are ..
To [Drakyla]: No
To [Drakyla]: If you think that you should step down as admin
[Drakyla]: even your tnet is bigger than guilds becouse without it no org can hold the towers
To [Drakyla]: really
[Drakyla]: i`m not admin
[Drakyla]: bots always help the whole side .. look at our pvp bot .. look at yours .. bots for apf .. both for pand .. its maded for whole side not single orgs
To [Drakyla]: thats not the issue, bots ruin the game too
To [Drakyla]: ALOT of people haev quit due to bots
To [Drakyla]: how hard is it to /follow
To [Drakyla]: have you raided pande with your guild once?
To [Drakyla]: or 1-2 teams?
[Drakyla]: its not hard .. how hard is to check for slackers like us ?
To [Drakyla]: do you know how fun it is?
To [Drakyla]: do you know what a challenge it is to do middle with one team?
[Drakyla]: yes i have .. and still prefer bots .. atleast some orgs with 5-10ppl dont get left behind
To [Drakyla]: 5-10 ppl can do middle
[Drakyla]: i have done beast with 24 comletely random ppl only 2 220`s
To [Drakyla]: 5-10 ppl org can coop and get 20
[Drakyla]: and why to do that when its posible something to drop that they dont need it ?>
To [Drakyla]: its not about that
To [Drakyla]: anarchy online isnt welfare online, is it?
[Drakyla]: its about that for sure lol
[Drakyla]: items=better pvp
[Drakyla]: lets talk about that FFA .. not that i have something agains that .. if orgs gonna raid .. do it on ffa days no problem with that
To [Drakyla]: zods isnt beast
[Drakyla]: beast raid ffa .,. ma star drop .. in HC goest around 2/3 of burden price .. and there is not a single person to get it
To [Drakyla]: learn the diff
[Drakyla]: giving example i didnt say its the same
To [Drakyla]: well fine then i can have it in my collection
To [Drakyla]: Star of Enterprice Star of Enticement Star of Management Star of Moral
[Drakyla]: your in big org that do sometimes ffa raids arent you ?
To [Drakyla]: no
To [Drakyla]: but i have been
To [Drakyla]: and understand why we have ffa
To [Drakyla]: why its needed
[Drakyla]: that 2 days ffa .. dont have anything agains them .. but have agains them when some orgs start raiding and screwing bots(which screw the little orgs) on the rest 6 days
To [Drakyla]: no
[Drakyla]: ffa i understand it ..
[Drakyla]: on normal days .. cant understand that
To [Drakyla]: there is NO normal days on zods
To [Drakyla]: ALL days are ffa
To [Drakyla]: understand that part
To [Drakyla]: we have NO 100% deal on zods
[Drakyla]: good .. maybe its time for change .. especially with the incoming thingies
To [Drakyla]: we do deals on spawn basis and maybe some time after that
To [Drakyla]: no
To [Drakyla]: you know
To [Drakyla]: post on LoA
To [Drakyla]: and ask the community
To [Drakyla]: if they want ffa days on zods
To [Drakyla]: and if they want bot monopoly on zods
To [Drakyla]: more and more orgs does zods now
To [Drakyla]: ask coen ask gelanin
To [Drakyla]: if they want it
To [Drakyla]: you are WAY out
[Drakyla]: so lets say i start a pool in LOA .. does that mean clans will agree with it if ppl vote for raidbot on 6 days and 2 ffa days to stay ?
To [Drakyla]: it wont happen
[Drakyla]: lets say it will happend ..
To [Drakyla]: cause you dont need the people with you
To [Drakyla]: you need the powerful people with you
To [Drakyla]: coen/gelanin/me/vhab/jackjonez/other botadmins/other guildpresidents
To [Drakyla]: and it wont happen
To [Drakyla]: cause you know what?
To [Drakyla]: all thoose big guilds will team up and get each spawn then
To [Drakyla]: cant you see that?
[Drakyla]: yes i expect that ... but ofcouse i can block that easy no matter how much the BIG ppl dont see that
[Drakyla]: however lets end that subject for now .. like i see it , its needed 2 ppl from each side to be started serious vote
To [Drakyla]: no i staerted the beast issue self
[Drakyla]: the beast issue ?
To [Drakyla]: te 6/2/6/2
To [Drakyla]: was me that got that threw
To [Drakyla]: was me that worked threw the process
To [Drakyla]: and it CLREALY said
To [Drakyla]: all the comments from people, go back read the thread
To [Drakyla]: zods should be ffa
To [Drakyla]: but now im logging exolas for beastraid
To [Drakyla]: you can post on LoA if you want
muj rozhovor s ni:
like I said to Iri, he was to hard on her, she just wants all for every1 good old redliner comunism online.
but what was funny it tooks her about 15min talking with iri to speak with me.
To [Drakyla]: pajja have a moment ?
To [Drakyla]: sure
[Drakyla]: did you notified any HC leader/admin that you moved for middles ?
To [Drakyla]: no should I?
[Drakyla]: last time when we catched each other in pand at omni raid .. Lleila didnt told you to warn someone from us if you going out to kill ?
To [Drakyla]: is like that
[Drakyla]: "is like that" is a question or something for long writing ?
To [drakyla]: if you want to have sure spawn and wont be disterupt by bot, u let clan/omni bot that you r moving, if you not do that you risk that bot omni/clan will go against you
[Drakyla]: i see .. ok .. have a nice day
[Drakyla]: ok u 2
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AO: Paja - soldier - 220/30 || pajatrader - trader - 220/16 || koprak - keeper - 220/20 || pajja - doctor - 220/24
VG: Paja - Cleric/High Elf/Gelenia/MDK 35
WoW: DrPaja - 52 Undeath Priest @ Drak'thul || Tankistka - 32 Tauren Warrior @ Drak'thul || Krvacek - 70 Druid Tauren Warrior @ Drak'thul
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tojejedno
Advanced Member
5626 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 12:18:36
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| Mno to sem zvedavej jak se todle vyvine... |
AO: Pan Shade Tojejedno + PvP nub - retarded (tm)by NerfTý Mittra
VG: Jsem takova mala pisnicka - retarded s potencialem
EQ2: Tojeonde - Pivipi - retarded
Rift: Tojejedno - nejakej FOTM class, takze klerik asi:/ - retarded
FF XIV: Toje Tojejedno - a opet retarded, hrozna hra
TESO - tojejedno - sorcka - Sem se vratil z dovolene a prej uz se to nehraje
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paja2000
Moderator
2040 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 12:44:50
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vyvine se to asi takhle:
jj:
As that guy went way too far I asked Coen to demote him, which he has done.
I'm not sure on circumstances of raid, did Zodsnet not mass or was no RL online? Normally Tranq tell us if they move, I validate that with HC also to save confusion.
Cheers,
-jj-
ja:
Look that chick didnt nothing wrong. She act nice and I dont see any problem in her behivor. She just has different point of view. If I dont care about previos raid when she wasnt able to tell me who leading raid when I 5x asked and wasnt able to announce that they won loot, I really dont see point why she had to lose RL status. |
AO: Paja - soldier - 220/30 || pajatrader - trader - 220/16 || koprak - keeper - 220/20 || pajja - doctor - 220/24
VG: Paja - Cleric/High Elf/Gelenia/MDK 35
WoW: DrPaja - 52 Undeath Priest @ Drak'thul || Tankistka - 32 Tauren Warrior @ Drak'thul || Krvacek - 70 Druid Tauren Warrior @ Drak'thul
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tojejedno
Advanced Member
5626 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 12:54:47
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| Tak to jsem rad, ze to neni predstava cely omni strany, jinak by asi JJ cuknul |
AO: Pan Shade Tojejedno + PvP nub - retarded (tm)by NerfTý Mittra
VG: Jsem takova mala pisnicka - retarded s potencialem
EQ2: Tojeonde - Pivipi - retarded
Rift: Tojejedno - nejakej FOTM class, takze klerik asi:/ - retarded
FF XIV: Toje Tojejedno - a opet retarded, hrozna hra
TESO - tojejedno - sorcka - Sem se vratil z dovolene a prej uz se to nehraje
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paja2000
Moderator
2040 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 14:53:45
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tady je update:
She massed Hellcom with the idea to intentionally OD Zodsnet because she was annoyed that a Zodnet RL raided with org and didn't bother to tell them. It's clear that org > bot from both bots sides, so like u said in that other thread, if people want to do whichever zods they like, its not an issue for me. I just like to ensure that it's communicated to save any confusion.
Several times last week I gave Tranq mids+tnh as they wanted to move, I don't mind about that, they let me know previously so I didn't mass. If we mass to do something and then have to stop, its annoying. Being an ass and immediately saying no deals, making drama is plain stupid and if people can't deal in a more mature aspect and have to over-react at thr smallest thing they shouldn't be raidleader.
Paja, you're right, you didn't over-react but then she shouldn't have involved entire HC bot in making more drama. She was also posting several one liners out of that quote to the other HC raidleaders trying to make us look bad instead of revealing the whole conversation.
Cheers,
-jj-
btw. whats our "turn" and not "our turn" should not come into negotiating with orgs - it can be mentioned but no drama made of it. advantage of communication is that if omni org is moving, we can stop Hellcom and switch to sides if necessary.
takze to odebrani RL nebylo spojeno jen s tim, ze chtela komunisticky veci pro vsechny :p |
AO: Paja - soldier - 220/30 || pajatrader - trader - 220/16 || koprak - keeper - 220/20 || pajja - doctor - 220/24
VG: Paja - Cleric/High Elf/Gelenia/MDK 35
WoW: DrPaja - 52 Undeath Priest @ Drak'thul || Tankistka - 32 Tauren Warrior @ Drak'thul || Krvacek - 70 Druid Tauren Warrior @ Drak'thul
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Firian
Average Member
1047 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 15:19:13
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| Můžete mi někdo napsat ve dvou českých větách co se stalo? Sice jsem to trochu přelítl, ale asi mi unikla podstata věci. |
WoW EU *Drak'Thul* Firun (Druid), *Darkspear* Firun (Shaman), *Thunderhorn* Milagros (Gnome Mage)
Anarchy Online *RK1* Firian (200 Fixer), Firian2 (216/10 Bureaucrat), Firian3 (60 Doctor), Firian4 (215/13 Shade), Milagros (217/15 Engineer), Firun (217/18 Enforcer) | *RK2* Milagros (120 Adv)
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ErvinoS
New Member
187 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 15:20:08
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| Tak tohle by se u nás stát nemohlo :) V cza rozhoduje Paroubek ehm teda Paja a to je zákon :) |
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tojejedno
Advanced Member
5626 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 15:21:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Firian
Můžete mi někdo napsat ve dvou českých větách co se stalo? Sice jsem to trochu přelítl, ale asi mi unikla podstata věci.
Klani: Org má přednost před botem
Omni: Bot má přednost před orgem
Omni: Nakej klan org je v Pande, kdyz ma jit nas bot stred, zprcejte je
Omni oficial: Ten omni co to rikal byl degradovan, neni to pravda. |
AO: Pan Shade Tojejedno + PvP nub - retarded (tm)by NerfTý Mittra
VG: Jsem takova mala pisnicka - retarded s potencialem
EQ2: Tojeonde - Pivipi - retarded
Rift: Tojejedno - nejakej FOTM class, takze klerik asi:/ - retarded
FF XIV: Toje Tojejedno - a opet retarded, hrozna hra
TESO - tojejedno - sorcka - Sem se vratil z dovolene a prej uz se to nehraje
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tojejedno
Advanced Member
5626 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 15:22:32
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quote:
Originally posted by paja2000
takze to odebrani RL nebylo spojeno jen s tim, ze chtela komunisticky veci pro vsechny :p
Tak komunismus v Pande neni prestupek. |
AO: Pan Shade Tojejedno + PvP nub - retarded (tm)by NerfTý Mittra
VG: Jsem takova mala pisnicka - retarded s potencialem
EQ2: Tojeonde - Pivipi - retarded
Rift: Tojejedno - nejakej FOTM class, takze klerik asi:/ - retarded
FF XIV: Toje Tojejedno - a opet retarded, hrozna hra
TESO - tojejedno - sorcka - Sem se vratil z dovolene a prej uz se to nehraje
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Firian
Average Member
1047 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 16:30:54
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quote:
Originally posted by tojejedno
quote:
Originally posted by Firian
Můžete mi někdo napsat ve dvou českých větách co se stalo? Sice jsem to trochu přelítl, ale asi mi unikla podstata věci.
Klani: Org má přednost před botem
Omni: Bot má přednost před orgem
Omni: Nakej klan org je v Pande, kdyz ma jit nas bot stred, zprcejte je
Omni oficial: Ten omni co to rikal byl degradovan, neni to pravda.
Tak to je dráma... bouře ve sklenici vody :-) |
WoW EU *Drak'Thul* Firun (Druid), *Darkspear* Firun (Shaman), *Thunderhorn* Milagros (Gnome Mage)
Anarchy Online *RK1* Firian (200 Fixer), Firian2 (216/10 Bureaucrat), Firian3 (60 Doctor), Firian4 (215/13 Shade), Milagros (217/15 Engineer), Firun (217/18 Enforcer) | *RK2* Milagros (120 Adv)
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Wilda
Brzda
2124 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 18:56:07
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quote:
Originally posted by ErvinoS
Tak tohle by se u nás stát nemohlo :) V cza rozhoduje Paroubek ehm teda Paja a to je zákon :)
Koukam z Ervina se stava jiz tradicne nehrajici prudic? a jeste k tomu ani nebyl v CzA? ;) no toz asi teda gratz... |
AO:Willemek - equip || Willma - equip || Willpeen - s10 DD biatch - retired
VG:Willma - retired
EQII:Willma
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nekrotyrael
Senior Member
3896 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 19:55:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Firian
quote:
Originally posted by tojejedno
quote:
Originally posted by Firian
Můžete mi někdo napsat ve dvou českých větách co se stalo? Sice jsem to trochu přelítl, ale asi mi unikla podstata věci.
Klani: Org má přednost před botem
Omni: Bot má přednost před orgem
Omni: Nakej klan org je v Pande, kdyz ma jit nas bot stred, zprcejte je
Omni oficial: Ten omni co to rikal byl degradovan, neni to pravda.
Tak to je dráma... bouře ve sklenici vody :-)
hehe, drama by byla, kdyby udelali 6/2/6/2 na zodech =). treba by se by boti konecne prestali fungovat, alespon na cas :P. |
RL: LVL 1 S/S/S
AO: Ineea, Airashii, Nekrotyrael, Nanorexia @ RK5
Dune: Nanorexia @ Persephone
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Edited by - nekrotyrael on 13/09/2006 19:57:36 |
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ErvinoS
New Member
187 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2006 : 20:27:21
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quote:
Originally posted by Wilda
quote:
Originally posted by ErvinoS
Tak tohle by se u nás stát nemohlo :) V cza rozhoduje Paroubek ehm teda Paja a to je zákon :)
Koukam z Ervina se stava jiz tradicne nehrajici prudic? a jeste k tomu ani nebyl v CzA? ;) no toz asi teda gratz...
že váháš :) tradice se musí udržovat |
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petrpets
Moderator
1941 Posts |
Posted - 14/09/2006 : 09:45:39
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| co to tady plkate, vcerejsi zodi byli ok 3 full tymy, red belt .... :P |
buuu, ja nenacaruju nove nano ® axel999 |
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tojejedno
Advanced Member
5626 Posts |
Posted - 14/09/2006 : 09:50:37
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quote:
Originally posted by petrpets
co to tady plkate, vcerejsi zodi byli ok 3 full tymy, red belt .... :P
No nebyli cza only:/ |
AO: Pan Shade Tojejedno + PvP nub - retarded (tm)by NerfTý Mittra
VG: Jsem takova mala pisnicka - retarded s potencialem
EQ2: Tojeonde - Pivipi - retarded
Rift: Tojejedno - nejakej FOTM class, takze klerik asi:/ - retarded
FF XIV: Toje Tojejedno - a opet retarded, hrozna hra
TESO - tojejedno - sorcka - Sem se vratil z dovolene a prej uz se to nehraje
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