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Meffisto
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 Posted - 25/07/2006 : 19:12:53
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Zdravim vsechny ,docela by me zajimal vas nazor na S-Priesta po 1.10 ...... predem dik vsem za odpovedi.
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Marigold
Senior Member
3590 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 19:17:44
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Nic moc se nezměnilo, ne?
Jediná změna je že holy mág je teď docela použitelná alternativa, když chce priest jet damage... |
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Meffisto
Starting Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 19:23:14
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| Mno spousta hracu co znam po patchi opustila shadow a jede disc.-holy ..... a dalsi vec u hordy je to k s S-Priestem ale alici S on PvP??? Kdyby aspon sel v S-forme pouzit Desperate Prayer ...... a ten druhy lidsky spell Feedback mi prijde v celku na nic driv to aspon clovek vyuzil ale ted uz ne aspon nikoho takovyho neznam kdo by to pouzival =( |
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Mefisto
Junior Member
767 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 19:37:05
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Originally posted by Meffisto
wtf?!!! |
"The time for desperation is upon us. Let's play." |
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Meffisto
Starting Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 19:46:41
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| Mno horda ma Devouring Plague (krasna vec for S-Priesta) a dalsich pak celkem uzitecnych veci ...... mozna to bude tim ze blizz jede za hordu =) ........ ale neni nad pallata v high inst. MC-BWL atd........ |
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nekrotyrael
Senior Member
3896 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 20:17:22
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Originally posted by Mefisto
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Originally posted by Meffisto
wtf?!!!
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RL: LVL 1 S/S/S
AO: Ineea, Airashii, Nekrotyrael, Nanorexia @ RK5
Dune: Nanorexia @ Persephone
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-Mike-
Average Member
1308 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 20:31:52
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Originally posted by Mefisto
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Originally posted by Meffisto
wtf?!!!
lepsi nez mefistocz :p |
Krabice je zaklad. |
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Johny
Junior Member
681 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 20:59:13
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Originally posted by Meffisto
Mno spousta hracu co znam po patchi opustila shadow a jede disc.-holy ..... a dalsi vec u hordy je to k s S-Priestem ale alici S on PvP??? Kdyby aspon sel v S-forme pouzit Desperate Prayer ...... a ten druhy lidsky spell Feedback mi prijde v celku na nic driv to aspon clovek vyuzil ale ted uz ne aspon nikoho takovyho neznam kdo by to pouzival =(
GG!
Jinak dwarf > undead i na pvp aspon z myho pohledu |
Ex - UO,AO,WoW,AoC,WHO,RoM,Aion,HoN,Lol,GW 2,PoE, D III, DotA 2
now - HotS
Inc - POE : Awakening |
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Marigold
Senior Member
3590 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 21:58:13
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Originally posted by Johny
GG!
Jinak dwarf > undead i na pvp aspon z myho pohledu
No, čistě z hlediska skillů a kouzel, budiž, ale bože jak vypadaj |
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Meffisto
Starting Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 22:17:31
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| =) jj ale trpaslici maj aspon fear ward |
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Stilgar
Average Member
1971 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 22:39:07
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Originally posted by Marigold
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Originally posted by Johny
GG!
Jinak dwarf > undead i na pvp aspon z myho pohledu
No, čistě z hlediska skillů a kouzel, budiž, ale bože jak vypadaj
stylove |
[Stilgar]
Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen.
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Johny
Junior Member
681 Posts |
Posted - 25/07/2006 : 23:24:12
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| Dwarf rulez |
Ex - UO,AO,WoW,AoC,WHO,RoM,Aion,HoN,Lol,GW 2,PoE, D III, DotA 2
now - HotS
Inc - POE : Awakening |
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Jedi_Knight
Average Member
1690 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2006 : 03:23:02
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Dwarf rulez
Ty nevíš co to znamená mít dwarfy (a gnómy když sme u toho) f gildě. |
[Ianek][Paladin][Burning Blade][World of Warcraft]
Je rozdíl mezi tím znát cestu a kráčet po ní. - Morfeus |
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DarkFace
Junior Member
700 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2006 : 07:30:28
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Originally posted by Johny
Dwarf rulez
Ty nevíš co to znamená mít dwarfy (a gnómy když sme u toho) f gildě.
QFT.
My mame v guilde gnoma rogue na raptorovi, ktory je v RL Francuz (ten gnom, nie raptor) a mozem povedat, ze je to riadna uchylnost ;) |
"I must not Fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is little death that brings total obliteration. I will let it pass through me and over me. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. " |
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MegaDeath
Average Member
1989 Posts |
Posted - 26/07/2006 : 08:49:13
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disc/holy muze bejt dobrej na dimidz, ale do pvp bych v tom nesel, bez silence hrat neumim, bez mind flay jakozto jedinyho snaru taky a bez vampiric embrance bych se cejtil nahej....
jediny cim tenhle build muze vyhravat je, ze budes mit imba equip a potkas soupere co ho nemaj
na shadow build ti stacej i modry hadry a da se s tim porad neco uhrat (imbaaaaa) |
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rawenek
Starting Member
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Posted - 26/07/2006 : 13:10:59
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Dwarf > Undead - pro group pvp healing (fearward, desperate prayer, stoneform)
Undead > Dwarf - pro solo pvp, world pvp (Dev.plague, WotF, celkove horde priest = nebojujes proti lidem s WotF)
Co se tyce shadow po 1.10 tak mas o neco min many a pain+shield ti ji sezere o dost vic (uz nejde mit 5/5 ment.agi pokud nechces obetovat hodne dulezity veci v shadow tree) ale imp.VE a imp.shield ti zase pomuze vydrzet dyl. Z 1.10 maji asi nejvetsi radost Undeadi protoze innerfocus + dev.plague je mana love. Pro non-undeady je innerfocus alespon velka sance na crit mindblastem a nebo nouzovka pro pain/shield kdyz je hodne malo many.
Holy tree v 1.10 se konecne dockal docela dobrejch zmen, ktery hodne pomuzou v healing group pvp - Spellwarding, blessed recovery, holynova (prevazne rank1 dobra vec na odhaleni rogue/interrupt na vlajce a nebo max rank jako nouzovej instaheal nez se nabije dalsi fear/shield). Akorat Lightwell je opravdu kravina a spirit of redemption ma nakej bug a hodne lidi disconnectuje.
Co se tyka Disc/Holy damage spec ("smitespam") tak tohle v solo pvp proti dobrejm hracum nefunguje (hlavne za allianci kde v 90% procentech nepritele nedostanes od tela (WotF) abys to vubec nabil a kdyz ti da kick/pummel/counterspell do smitu tak se nemuzes ani healovat a ver mi ze bez shadowformy tech 10sekund proti melee neprezijes. Tenhle spec funguje mozna v AV nebo nekde pri zergu kdy ses vzadu a muzes nukovat zatimco meatshield pred tebou umira a urcite by byl radsi kdybys je healoval.
Abych to shrnul tak co se tyce solo shadow pvp je v 1.10 lepsi nez driv, hlavne pro Undeady (dostupny innerfocus = uspora 1k many za DP) a stejne tak pvp healing s holy specem je o dost prijemnejsi. Ackoli podle mych zkusenosti, kdyz nemas hvezdnou premade, ktera te nenecha zemrit, tak nakonec i ten group pvp healing je lepsi delat s alespon castecnym shadowspecem - imp.pain, mindflay, imp.fear silence delaj zazraky a clovek je tak schopnej trochu se o sebe postarat kdyz v BGs dojde na nejaky to 1v1 :)
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Meffisto
Starting Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2006 : 04:49:45
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Mno predem bych chtel podekovat za odpovedi a podle toho co jsem vycetl jsem slozil podle me vyhovujici build on solo PvE/PvP a mozna jako DPS v instancich =)
Shadow 38 points
Blackout - rank 5/5
Improved Shadow Word: Pain - rank 2/2
Shadow Focus - rank 5/5
Improved Psychic Scream - rank 2/2
Silence - rank 1/1
Improved Mind Blast - rank 5/5
Mind Flay - rank 1/1
Shadow Weaving - rank 5/5
Shadow Reach - rank 3/3
Vampiric Embrace - rank 1/1
Improved Vampiric Embrace - rank 2/2
Darkness - rank 5/5
Shadowform - rank 1/1
Disciple 13 points
Unbreakable Will - rank 5/5
Improved Power Word: Fortitude - rank 2/2
Improved Power Word: Shield - rank 3/3
Martyrdom - rank 2/2
Inner Focus - rank 1/1
Tak co vy na to ??? :D |
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rawenek
Starting Member
3 Posts |
Posted - 27/07/2006 : 13:45:34
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Ten build co si napsal 13/0/38 je klasicky solo PvP. Na solo PvE pokud myslis treba dlouhodoby farmeni nejakejch lehcich mobu (silithus, felwood...), tak to pokud mas nakej healing equip treba casti t1/t2, ktery maj desne spirit a mana regen, je lepsi jit 3/3 meditation a spirit tap - nikdy nebudes muset pít a to, ze tim obetujes nejakej damage, vubec nevadi protoze s shadowspecem vsechno chcipa desne rychle i kdybys byl nahej.
Co se PvE shadow dps v instancich tyce (predpokladam, ze mluvime o normalnim 20/40man guild raidu), tak jestlize mas dobrou gildu, kde kazdej vi co dela, tak tam abys udelal top 5 damage za celej raid, budes muset obetovat nekolik cennejch talentpointu. Pokud PvE bude jediny co s tim priestem budes delat, tak to ani nevadi, ale jinak pro uplnou optimalizaci PvE damage a výdrže co se many týče to bude znamenat ztratu dulezitejch pvp talentu. Tohle je build, kterej je nejlepsi (je mozny to este trochu pozmenit podle toho jestli chces hodne vyuzivat VE) pro PvE raid shadow dps:
Discipline - 20
Wand Specialization Rank 5/5
Silent Resolve Rank 5/5
Improved Power Word: Shield Rank 1/3
Inner Focus Rank 1/1
Meditation Rank 3/3
Mental Agility Rank 5/5
Shadow - 31
Spirit Tap Rank 5/5
Shadow Affinity Rank 3/3
Improved Shadow Word: Pain Rank 2/2
Shadow Focus Rank 5/5
Mind Flay Rank 1/1
Shadow Reach Rank 3/3
Shadow Weaving Rank 5/5
Vampiric Embrace Rank 1/1
Darkness Rank 5/5
Shadowform Rank 1/1
Myslim, ze u toho neni moc o cem diskutovat. Aggro reducing talenty a jinak vsechny, ktery jakkoli pomuzou zminimalizovat ty mana problemy, ktery sou v podstate jedina vec, co muze shadowpriesta zastavit (5/5 mental agi se hodi i na pain ale jinak jediny co budes pri bossfightu delat je mindflay mindflay mindflay a tech 10% se tam nascita). A i kdyz na oom nakonec dojde a vsechny lahve i nightdragony sou na cooldownech, tak wand spec 5/5 zajisti docasny dps nez napises nejblizsimu druidovi o innervate :). Je to hlavne o equipu, co nejvic mp/5sec, int, damage a spirit pokud mozno co nejvic od vseho na jednej veci. Itemy typu sash of whispered secrets ti v PvE moc nepomuzou, treba firemaw's clutch je uplne o necem jinym.
Takže abych to zase shrnul. PvP spec co si napsal je spravnej, ale pro hardcore PvE shadow dps je treba obetovat vychytavky typu imp.fear, silence a imp.blast pro jiny veci co uspori/regenerujou manu, budes rad za kazdej extra manapoint, protoze jinak te v "Damage Done" jakejkoli kompetentni combat spec rogue roztrha na kousky.
//Rawen |
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