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Prandur
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Posted - 03/07/2006 :  05:31:18  Show Profile  Send Prandur an ICQ Message Send Prandur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Naxx mobove na impact immuni nejsou, a to vcetne addu u bossu kteri se musi stunovat.

Se 7% hit mam maximalni +hit proti vsem non-boss cilum, s 5% bych nemel. Kdybych mel 6% hit bez talentu tak predelam na 20/31.

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magen1
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Posted - 03/07/2006 :  08:22:01  Show Profile Send magen1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Prandur

Naxx mobove na impact immuni nejsou, a to vcetne addu u bossu kteri se musi stunovat.

Se 7% hit mam maximalni +hit proti vsem non-boss cilum, s 5% bych nemel. Kdybych mel 6% hit bez talentu tak predelam na 20/31.



mam takovej dojem ze +%hit u maga zadnej talent neni
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Prandur
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Posted - 03/07/2006 :  16:04:37  Show Profile  Send Prandur an ICQ Message Send Prandur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Elemental precision zvysuje +hit fire a frostu o 2%, jenom je to jinak formulovane.

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 10/07/2006 :  15:53:06  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tak, potrebuju poradit s PvP buildem, chci pouzivat do pvp predevsim scorch, zatim jsem si vycucal neco jako je tohle:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kf0EMoboZVMGzfcux

Edited by - MegaDeath on 10/07/2006 16:01:55
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Aragorn
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Posted - 10/07/2006 :  16:04:00  Show Profile  Send Aragorn an ICQ Message Send Aragorn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

tak, potrebuju poradit s PvP buildem, chci pouzivat do pvp predevsim scorch, zatim jsem si vycucal neco jako je tohle:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kf0EMoboZVrGzfcuh


jako scorch build myslim ze celkem ok, jen bych vzal dva bodiky z MoE a dal je do Fire Power


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MegaDeath
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Posted - 10/07/2006 :  16:08:09  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aragorn

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

tak, potrebuju poradit s PvP buildem, chci pouzivat do pvp predevsim scorch, zatim jsem si vycucal neco jako je tohle:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kf0EMoboZVrGzfcuh


jako scorch build myslim ze celkem ok, jen bych vzal dva bodiky z MoE a dal je do Fire Power


ja tam mel chybku, vzal jsem bodiky z Ignite a dal je do toho fire power, MoE mi prijde zatim jako docela dobra vec i kdyz mozna praxe ukaze neco jinyho a dal bych to z MoE do Ignite
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Aragorn
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Posted - 10/07/2006 :  21:39:02  Show Profile  Send Aragorn an ICQ Message Send Aragorn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

quote:
Originally posted by Aragorn

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

tak, potrebuju poradit s PvP buildem, chci pouzivat do pvp predevsim scorch, zatim jsem si vycucal neco jako je tohle:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kf0EMoboZVrGzfcuh


jako scorch build myslim ze celkem ok, jen bych vzal dva bodiky z MoE a dal je do Fire Power


ja tam mel chybku, vzal jsem bodiky z Ignite a dal je do toho fire power, MoE mi prijde zatim jako docela dobra vec i kdyz mozna praxe ukaze neco jinyho a dal bych to z MoE do Ignite


hm ze nemas full ignite sem si ani nevsim :p
trochu sem to upravil jak bych to jel ja http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kf0EMoboZVgGzc0ux
MoE v pvp nepotrebujes a Burning Soul taky ne


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Mucus
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Posted - 11/07/2006 :  09:39:59  Show Profile  Send Mucus an ICQ Message Send Mucus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No krome toho Improved Scorch asi nej. Fire PvP build, ale do AQ/Naxx bych s tim nelez. Jinak ten Improved Scorch je opravdu pure Pve zalezitost kdyz, +15% damage dealt chce 5x Scorch = 7.5 cast, coz se nikdy v PvP nepovede, protoze krome loladinu a warlocku s coklem by mel fire Mak pouzivat stejnou taktiku (tedy pokud chce vyhrat), sheep, FBall+PYRO Nuke kombo + instanty until target takes dirtnap, else (Silence, Sheep, & (run_away_combo));
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Mucus
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Posted - 11/07/2006 :  15:24:40  Show Profile  Send Mucus an ICQ Message Send Mucus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
btw u zminovanych 21/30 PvP buildu je treba vysoky +spelldmg (400) optimalni + ZG/MC trinket, v battlegroundech se spise vyplati Frost mak s vyjimkou WSG, kde http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oV0EcRbquVgGz
Arcane build napovi, ze pred AP+Pom+Pyro+FB utece maloktery d00d.
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maser
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Posted - 12/07/2006 :  17:21:39  Show Profile Send maser a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zdravim nemohl by me tu nekdo poradit jakej je nej frost build pro pve.dekuji
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Aragorn
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Posted - 13/07/2006 :  09:23:02  Show Profile  Send Aragorn an ICQ Message Send Aragorn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by maser

zdravim nemohl by me tu nekdo poradit jakej je nej frost build pro pve.dekuji


to zalezi na tom jaky pve hodlas provozovat..


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Mucus
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Posted - 13/07/2006 :  09:53:21  Show Profile  Send Mucus an ICQ Message Send Mucus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0E00fZZVqGcofuzo

Vyborne vybalancovany ZG/MC/BWL/AQ Frost build, zmenit ten 1 talent v Ice Barrier za PoM a mas slusny PvP Frost build.
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Aragorn
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Posted - 13/07/2006 :  10:02:50  Show Profile  Send Aragorn an ICQ Message Send Aragorn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mucus

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0E00fZZVqGcofuzo

Vyborne vybalancovany ZG/MC/BWL/AQ Frost build, zmenit ten 1 talent v Ice Barrier za PoM a mas slusny PvP Frost build.



no to bych zrovna nerek, na co ti je v raid instancich frostbite a shatter? :p

imo best dps raid build http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Rf0qcofqhZVi0cofz (pripadne misto coldsnapu a iceblocku vzit AP pro jeste vetsi dmg :p)


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Mucus
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Posted - 13/07/2006 :  10:57:45  Show Profile  Send Mucus an ICQ Message Send Mucus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aragorn

quote:
Originally posted by Mucus

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0E00fZZVqGcofuzo

Vyborne vybalancovany ZG/MC/BWL/AQ Frost build, zmenit ten 1 talent v Ice Barrier za PoM a mas slusny PvP Frost build.



no to bych zrovna nerek, na co ti je v raid instancich frostbite a shatter? :p

imo best dps raid build http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Rf0qcofqhZVi0cofz (pripadne misto coldsnapu a iceblocku vzit AP pro jeste vetsi dmg :p)



Souhlas, na 40kove instance jeste lepsi build, Frostbite+Shatter je spise grind/pvp talent, ale neber to ted po patchi, kdyz je za 5 bodu ve Frost talentech. V instancich lze ten +3%crit +3dmg z AI alespon trochu nahradit W.Chillem, zvlaste kdyz jsou v raidu dalsi frost magove s W.Chillem.,a tech cca. 600many navic z A.Mind ? No ta se vzdycky hodi!
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maser
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Posted - 13/07/2006 :  20:36:09  Show Profile Send maser a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aragorn

quote:
Originally posted by maser

zdravim nemohl by me tu nekdo poradit jakej je nej frost build pro pve.dekuji


to zalezi na tom jaky pve hodlas provozovat..


hodlam provozovat maga od zacatku tak build na grind
dekuji vsem za posty
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Bulway
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Posted - 14/07/2006 :  06:38:08  Show Profile  Send Bulway an ICQ Message Send Bulway a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kbhVZEgMzfcut0h
Tohle je muj mag, fire spec, pve aq/naxx spec. Mnohokrat vyzkouseno , absolutni spokojenost.
Sem tam me nekdo trumfne v No.1 dps. Frostaci tam jen tlaci nake snezenky... vsechno marne...
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Sakki
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Posted - 14/07/2006 :  10:22:41  Show Profile Send Sakki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bulway

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kbhVZEgMzfcut0h
Tohle je muj mag, fire spec, pve aq/naxx spec. Mnohokrat vyzkouseno , absolutni spokojenost.
Sem tam me nekdo trumfne v No.1 dps. Frostaci tam jen tlaci nake snezenky... vsechno marne...



ololol, sem rad ze hraju Snezenku... nemohl bych hrat neco tak neefektivniho jako je Fire mage (i kdyz nemuzu vyvratit, ze nekdy budu muset)

o pwnovani v dmg metru, vis vetsina boju se tezko meri, mas tam i jine veci co musi mage delat... decurse, aoecko (na to je frost lepsi - neumre pri tom), prezit (na to je taky frost lepsi) a dmg (u kratkych boju ma fire mage mirnou vyhodu, u dlouhych fire uz hoodne ztraci)

Snezenka > fire mag

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Drakus
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Posted - 14/07/2006 :  11:02:55  Show Profile Send Drakus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sakki

quote:
Originally posted by Bulway

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kbhVZEgMzfcut0h
Tohle je muj mag, fire spec, pve aq/naxx spec. Mnohokrat vyzkouseno , absolutni spokojenost.
Sem tam me nekdo trumfne v No.1 dps. Frostaci tam jen tlaci nake snezenky... vsechno marne...



ololol, sem rad ze hraju Snezenku... nemohl bych hrat neco tak neefektivniho jako je Fire mage (i kdyz nemuzu vyvratit, ze nekdy budu muset)

o pwnovani v dmg metru, vis vetsina boju se tezko meri, mas tam i jine veci co musi mage delat... decurse, aoecko (na to je frost lepsi - neumre pri tom), prezit (na to je taky frost lepsi) a dmg (u kratkych boju ma fire mage mirnou vyhodu, u dlouhych fire uz hoodne ztraci)

Snezenka > fire mag



a co pro tebe znamena dlouhej fajt?
pokud to fire mage nezahraje uplne blbe a ma jeste treba trinket na snizeni aggra,nebo se domluvi s frostmagama,tak ani pri aoe neumre a co se tyce dmg,tak ji ma na single target lepsi(nepocitam exoty jako Ragnarose a BWL draky) dmg nez frost mage,akorat si musi udrzet manu(sutry,evokace,slusnej spirit,potaky,talenty na regen+clearcast+mas of elem)
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 14/07/2006 :  13:49:58  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sakki ty mas 28 arc, ty ses hovno snezenka ;) kdybys mel deep frost build tak bys byl prava snezenka
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Sakki
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Posted - 14/07/2006 :  14:01:53  Show Profile Send Sakki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

sakki ty mas 28 arc, ty ses hovno snezenka ;) kdybys mel deep frost build tak bys byl prava snezenka



no mam to tak, aby to bylo co nejvic efektivni... kdyz mi debuff z winters chill nahazi jinej mag (a maji to skoro vsichni frost magove u nas), tak proste jedinej talent proc jit hloubeji do frostu by byl Ice barrier, coz zatim neni nijak extra potreba (ale talent je to dobrej )

Sakki - Black Division - DrakThul

"People say we usually raid 24 hours a day with no food or sleep, then when one dies, we replace them with young people that can live for a while. Also, true!"

Edited by - Sakki on 14/07/2006 14:03:18
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Mucus
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Posted - 14/07/2006 :  14:24:49  Show Profile  Send Mucus an ICQ Message Send Mucus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sakki

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

sakki ty mas 28 arc, ty ses hovno snezenka ;) kdybys mel deep frost build tak bys byl prava snezenka



no mam to tak, aby to bylo co nejvic efektivni... kdyz mi debuff z winters chill nahazi jinej mag (a maji to skoro vsichni frost magove u nas), tak proste jedinej talent proc jit hloubeji do frostu by byl Ice barrier, coz zatim neni nijak extra potreba (ale talent je to dobrej )



Fajrdemičdýler> http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=RbhE00cZxgM0fcht0b
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k0r0pT3ff
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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  10:20:00  Show Profile Send k0r0pT3ff a Private Message  Reply with Quote
moje ledovka, spokojenost jak v pve tak v pvp

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oi0Vc0bZZVAG0obtIo

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Koropteff lvl 34 Elf Firemage @ Endor UO server - deleted for unactivity
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JerzeeG
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krecek

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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  11:34:50  Show Profile  Send JerzeeG an ICQ Message Send JerzeeG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by k0r0pT3ff

moje ledovka, spokojenost jak v pve tak v pvp

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oi0Vc0bZZVAG0obtIo


hmm koroptaku, mam neco podobneho, ale mam pom misto bariery, porad uvazuju, ze to prehodim na to, co mas ty..
(ma to byt takovy hybrid na pve i pvp, ale spise vice to pvp, proto jsem nechaval zatim to pom.. ale posledni dobou mi prijde, ze me to pom stejne nevytrhne, tak prave zvazuju tu barieru)

akorat ty arcane subtlety a arcane focus se mi nejak nezdaji, i kdyz ono tam neni nic moc lepsiho, ja mam teda impr. arcane missile

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k0r0pT3ff
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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  14:23:40  Show Profile Send k0r0pT3ff a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JerzeeG

quote:
Originally posted by k0r0pT3ff

moje ledovka, spokojenost jak v pve tak v pvp

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oi0Vc0bZZVAG0obtIo


hmm koroptaku, mam neco podobneho, ale mam pom misto bariery, porad uvazuju, ze to prehodim na to, co mas ty..
(ma to byt takovy hybrid na pve i pvp, ale spise vice to pvp, proto jsem nechaval zatim to pom.. ale posledni dobou mi prijde, ze me to pom stejne nevytrhne, tak prave zvazuju tu barieru)
akorat ty arcane subtlety a arcane focus se mi nejak nezdaji, i kdyz ono tam neni nic moc lepsiho, ja mam teda impr. arcane missile



no taky jsem nad arcane missilkama při respecu uvažoval, jenže tenhle talent tak nějak s bariérou ztrácí význam hele s PoM jsem se taky špatně loučil, ale jde jen o zvyk a hlavně takovou tu možnost prvního rychlýho kroku ti při tomhle buildu dá frostbolt rank1, pak už máš typa zpomalenýho ne-li zamraženýho když procne frostbite a pak už můžeš kouzlit něco delšího

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Tragedy
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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  14:50:32  Show Profile  Visit Tragedy's Homepage  Send Tragedy an ICQ Message Send Tragedy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kooptev: A neni ten FB rank 1 k prdu... vzdyt kdysi menili ty resisty a hrozne tyhle low kouzla resistovali.

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k0r0pT3ff
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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  19:08:50  Show Profile Send k0r0pT3ff a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tragedy

Kooptev: A neni ten FB rank 1 k prdu... vzdyt kdysi menili ty resisty a hrozne tyhle low kouzla resistovali.



nevšim jsem si že by mi alíci nějak Xtra resistovali, spíš vůbec...

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JerzeeG
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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  21:35:34  Show Profile  Send JerzeeG an ICQ Message Send JerzeeG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by k0r0pT3ff

quote:
Originally posted by Tragedy

Kooptev: A neni ten FB rank 1 k prdu... vzdyt kdysi menili ty resisty a hrozne tyhle low kouzla resistovali.



nevšim jsem si že by mi alíci nějak Xtra resistovali, spíš vůbec...


ono prave frostmage pry potrebuje hodne to hit atd

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