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Sagger
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 Posted - 06/12/2005 : 09:19:29
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Nadpis rika vse, koluji zvesti, ze dnes se ma NGE prehodit zpet na CU. Pokud o tom neco vite, podelte se zde :)
Ja osobne si myslim, ze to je blbost.
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WanargiMort
Junior Member
831 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2005 : 09:24:04
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Originally posted by Sagger
Nadpis rika vse, koluji zvesti, ze dnes se ma NGE prehodit zpet na CU. Pokud o tom neco vite, podelte se zde :)
Ja osobne si myslim, ze to je blbost.
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Almych
Average Member
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Posted - 06/12/2005 : 09:33:15
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| Blbost, precte te si DEV tracker na ofic foru. Kdyby mel byt rollback, tak tam nebudou postovat zmeny, ktery maji dnes byt. |
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Sagger
Ci-ua-ua
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Posted - 06/12/2005 : 09:34:28
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Originally posted by Almych
Blbost, precte te si DEV tracker na ofic foru. Kdyby mel byt rollback, tak tam nebudou postovat zmeny, ktery maji dnes byt.
Mam uplne stejny nazor |
1st Lokian Platoon, IHC
www.imperialhighcommand.com |
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baron432
New Member
415 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2005 : 10:26:49
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| Nesmysl - pro ně už není cesty zpátky, protože nebyli schopni pre-NGE ani udržovat, natož vyvíjet. Jediná šance pro SOW v SWG je stavět na tomto očesaném novém jádře a jít slepě dál ... |
PotBS Roberts - Paul van Staff (NO), Paul LeBaron (FT), Paul de Witt (PT), Španělsko, Storm Riders
SWG Eclipse - Pave'l vanStaff, Jedi (ex Jedi/ImpAcePilot)
SWG Eclipse - Pattt vanStaff, Officer (ex MRifle, MBH, 4000 CM) |
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Olusriel
Junior Member
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Posted - 06/12/2005 : 10:34:58
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| koluji zvesti = jedna bába povídala. Nemas aspon nejaky odkaz? |
„Já bych všechny ty počítače a internety zakázala“
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Kravka
Junior Member
931 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2005 : 10:56:13
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| priznam se ze bych meho jediho defendera privital s usmevem na rtu :) jenom si nedovedu predstavit co by zas udelali s tema jedi co na nej respecli, to by pak uplne posrali, jedi by meli uplne vsichni. pak mame nejaky vet revardy ze jo.. jedine snad vratit cas :)) |
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Quartax
Junior Member
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Posted - 06/12/2005 : 12:42:31
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Originally posted by Kravka
priznam se ze bych meho jediho defendera privital s usmevem na rtu :) jenom si nedovedu predstavit co by zas udelali s tema jedi co na nej respecli, to by pak uplne posrali, jedi by meli uplne vsichni. pak mame nejaky vet revardy ze jo.. jedine snad vratit cas :))
stačil by měsíční rollback a měsíc hraní zdarma a 5x expy :-) a nikdo by nekřičel :-)
(řval bych jen já protože sem si v posledních dnech dělal vis na maximum, ukazoval sem kladelko všude a pořád metal kouzla a efekty) :) |
Quartax Xarys - SWG.Eclipse
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Sagger
Ci-ua-ua
925 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2005 : 14:29:08
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Nemam tuseni, co z tohoto je pravda ale je to celkem zajimavy clanek.
This post is just for the ones that are intrested in the rumors or maybe resumes of what is goin on behind the scenes of SOE.
tlockard@soe.sony.com - ex Supervisor
beconomy@soe.sony.com - supervisor of the CSRs
Both do answer nicely written mails. Even with longer texts.... These 2 mail adresses are from the time pre NGE so i dont know if they are still in SOE.
And here are two VERY NICE Forums Posts you should read maybe they are pure hoax maybe they contain a bit of truth. Or are even completly right.
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I spoke to Satao (I think that is the correct spelling) the SWG customer relations manager for about 40 minutes a week ago.
He told me himself that all the decisions to go forward with the NGE came from John Smedley's office and marketing... he also said he completely understood that the SWG community was upset with the changes and didn#161;¦t like them. He also told me that they knew that the community did not majority like the first big game revamp, the Combat Upgrade.
The poor guy also seemed genuinely afraid to say too much and afraid of his superiors. He told me that John Smedley decided to implement the changes to the game and that neither the community nor the lower staff had any say in what was to happen.
Beyond that, I contacted another employee of SOE and spoke to him for about 20 minutes or more about Star Wars Galaxies, and even he stated that HE DID NOT LIKE THE GAME so he quit playing it as well, and he works for SOE!!! Don#161;¦t believe me? Ask him yourself, his number is 858-722-4873.
From all I gathered, Mr. Smedley and SOE have decided to create a situation in Star Wars Galaxies where they do not have to maintain or develop the game at the sacrifice of entertainment to the player all while trying to convince us all that they want to make things better for us and do the things we want to make the game better. It is all a sham. We are being punked and we are not respected as loyal customers.
On top of all of this, John Smedley tells the world he wants to know what his customers want, he asks for feedback, but SOE surrounds themselves in a blanket of secrecy and protection from the customer base. They do not want to hear from us, they don#161;¦t want to converse with us, if they did they could.
Before the first Combat Upgrade (unlovingly described as the combat downgrade) we were allowed to experience and test it on the Test Center Servers. When you logged out from them you were given a poll on how you liked it. Almost everyone hated it, did not want it, and still they launched it. They got our feedback then and didn#161;¦t care.
Many left after that. Many of us also stayed and tried to play it. We stayed, but we were only hanging on. We wanted pre-patch 9 or pre-cu with TEFs... when the NGE came we gave up on SOE and SWG.
If you think your feedback will matter, then try it..
The personal Sony Online Entertainment office number for
John Smedley
858-577-3100
When the machine answers choose option 2 for the company directory then at the next prompt you will be asked to enter the three digits or letter for the person you wish to speak to#161;K instead enter the numbers 7633 from your phone and you will be connected directly to John Smedley#161;¦s office.
If by the time you try this his line is closed or changed, never fear, just dial the original number and speak to all the SOE employees you can #402;#186;
Now if that wasn#161;¦t enough#161;K if you want to make absolutely sure you are heard then the next step is the personal e-mail address for the Customer Relations Manager with SOE and that would be
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sminami@soe.sony.com
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I don't expect you to take my word on this but I will share with you what I was told by a friend of mine who works for SOE. I can't give you any more detail like his position, department, etc for fear of him being identified. They apparently are bound by some air-tight non-disclosure agreements.
Below is what I was told:
Apparently, the NGE has really, REALLY stirred things up in Austin. All sorts of fingers are being pointed among SOE employee's as nobody wants to take the blame. Right now EVERYONE is trying to distance themselves from being responsible for making ANY decsions on pushing the NGE live. Every single employee is avoiding any connection to the NGE like the plague. I was told that the Dev's expected SOME account cancelations when the NGE went live, but my insider said they were willing to take those vet losses with the hopes of bringing in new subscribers over the holiday sales season. Also, the devs were counting on most of the threats by vets to quit to not actually go thru with cancelling. They have admitted, at least internally, that they number of cancels has FAR FAR FAR exceeded the number they were willing to take. As a result, there is beginning to be some serious discussion of a pre-NGE rollback. Several dev's are in serious jeopardy of being fired, and many many many of the support staff etc are polishing up their resume's because SOE has become the laughing stock of the online gaming community. No longer is it a badge of pride to work for SOE according to what I was told. Even my friend says he is no longer proud of working for SOE because of how they have destroyed their reputation.
Also, after having to report to LA on the NGE results, specifically the account cancels numbers, some of the big dogs from LA have flown into Austin for some serious intervention. No details on what that means yet, but it is known that Smedly and the senior crew at SOE have been behind closed doors for unusually lengthy meetings and have emerged with scowls on their face. The speculation is that LA is gearing up to crack down big time. (I would love to have been a fly on the wall in those meetings)
Because of the signifacant loss of subscriptions, customer service has laid off 25% of their support staff starting the 1st of January with more cuts expected.
All in all, the NGE turned out to rock the player base more deeply than what they expected. Talks are now underway on cutting the game off sometime in the first quarter of 2006. There is discussion with an outside company that is interested in purchasing the pre-NGE code with the aim of running a handful (5 tops) of pre-NGE servers, and maintained with a skeleton support staff. Right now this is apparently looking to be the most realistic result.
Oh, and my insider said the Devs are being intentionally vague on their forum posting and player communication because they want to keep as many subscribers as possible right now. A memo was passed down to ALL Dev's by the SOE execs with a list of topics that are completely not to be discussed or responded to on the forums. It is generally feared by the SOE team that the more info the player base has, the more of them will quit the game.
Also, the game WAS in the pre-development phase on porting to consol (xbox, playstation), but that those cycles have been 100% stalled at the moment because the future of SWG is so uncertain. But I was told that if any Dev posted or said that consol talks were never taking place it is a lie because significant discussions had already been underway with the design teams experienced with porting PC games to consol systems and that the NGE was partly (not entirely) designed to acomplish this objective."
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Quartax
Junior Member
764 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2005 : 14:42:41
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no když nám to zavřou co budem smažit? , snad se někdy dočkám startreku online :) a mezitím se asi vrátím k entropii ... no ale hlavně doufám že to nezavřou :) |
Quartax Xarys - SWG.Eclipse
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WanargiMort
Junior Member
831 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2005 : 14:45:18
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no když nám to zavřou co budem smažit? , snad se někdy dočkám startreku online :) a mezitím se asi vrátím k entropii ... no ale hlavně doufám že to nezavřou :)
Take doufam, ze nezavrou a kdyz tak aby byla hra spustena u nekoho jineho
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SNowie
Average Member
1746 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2005 : 15:24:23
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no když nám to zavřou co budem smažit? , snad se někdy dočkám startreku online :) a mezitím se asi vrátím k entropii ... no ale hlavně doufám že to nezavřou :)
Take doufam, ze nezavrou a kdyz tak aby byla hra spustena u nekoho jineho
Trebaaa u Bioware
SWG má obrovský potenciál, pokud to vezme do rukou někdo zkušený, kdo se nebojí spálit si prsty bude to jen dobře. |
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WanargiMort
Junior Member
831 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2005 : 15:30:51
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| No ja rad Bioware kvuli Kotor .... jj chapu ze se ted nekteri krizuji co to tu placam ... ale proste jen muj osobni vkus |
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Kwebs
Starting Member
73 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2005 : 15:40:36
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| Ja taky Rad KOTOR 1 i 2. Ale to o tech popalenych prstech je neco jineho. Dyt SOE uz ruky nema uz je z nich popel. Tolikrát se popálilo, az uz nema ruky. Bio by to mozna zvladlo. Nevim |
SWG - Eclipse | CzA | Wayen Torr | Jedi Kinght | CL90
SWG - Eclipse | BoH | Ayiena Torr | Scout trooper sniper | CL74 |
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Jorssk
Moderator
2991 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2005 : 16:58:35
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| Ono nejde tak o firmu co to ma ale hlavne o team ktery to dostane do hnat nebo rukou. |
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Arnie
Moderator
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Posted - 06/12/2005 : 19:07:07
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no když nám to zavřou co budem smažit? , snad se někdy dočkám startreku online :) a mezitím se asi vrátím k entropii ... no ale hlavně doufám že to nezavřou :)
Star Trek by mel bejt Q1 2006 cili za chvili....
Ale podle me to co tam psali sou jen plky.... |
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SNowie
Average Member
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Posted - 06/12/2005 : 20:51:06
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Originally posted by Arnie
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Originally posted by Quartax
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no když nám to zavřou co budem smažit? , snad se někdy dočkám startreku online :) a mezitím se asi vrátím k entropii ... no ale hlavně doufám že to nezavřou :)
Star Trek by mel bejt Q1 2006 cili za chvili....
Ale podle me to co tam psali sou jen plky....
na Star Trek online se taky těším :) i když si nedokážu moc dobře představit, jak udělaj všechny ty stanoviště na lodích dost zábavný |
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Jedi_Knight
Average Member
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Posted - 06/12/2005 : 20:56:02
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Originally posted by Sagger
Before the first Combat Upgrade (unlovingly described as the combat downgrade) we were allowed to experience and test it on the Test Center Servers. When you logged out from them you were given a poll on how you liked it. Almost everyone hated it, did not want it, and still they launched it. They got our feedback then and didn#161;¦t care.
TENHLE ODSTAVEC je pitchovina. Fšichni rouzmní hráči věděli, že SWG potřebuje revamp jako sůl. Blbouni na fóru whinovali, ať to SOE nedělá, ale stejně věděli, že to tak bude... místo aby podali potřebnej feedback (jako to dělali např. korespondenti povolání), plácali nesmysly a psali petice.
ZBYTEK je zajímavá teorie, možná založená na pravdě, možná ne... Co se mě týče, jsem schopen tomu věřit. NGE jsem viděl u bratra a jak bylo řečeno na CzA srazu - nemá cenu hrát hru, u které člověk nemá jistotu, že se nelogne a nezjistí, že je to něco úplně jiného než včera. Asi tak.
Jinak přehodit databáze na před-NGE je sice fajn nápad, ale každej další den se stává víc a víc snem. Pokud by to sOE udělala... pohřbila by se úplně. |
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SNowie
Average Member
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Posted - 06/12/2005 : 21:26:22
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Originally posted by Sagger
Before the first Combat Upgrade (unlovingly described as the combat downgrade) we were allowed to experience and test it on the Test Center Servers. When you logged out from them you were given a poll on how you liked it. Almost everyone hated it, did not want it, and still they launched it. They got our feedback then and didn#161;¦t care.
TENHLE ODSTAVEC je pitchovina. Fšichni rouzmní hráči věděli, že SWG potřebuje revamp jako sůl. Blbouni na fóru whinovali, ať to SOE nedělá, ale stejně věděli, že to tak bude... místo aby podali potřebnej feedback (jako to dělali např. korespondenti povolání), plácali nesmysly a psali petice.
ZBYTEK je zajímavá teorie, možná založená na pravdě, možná ne... Co se mě týče, jsem schopen tomu věřit. NGE jsem viděl u bratra a jak bylo řečeno na CzA srazu - nemá cenu hrát hru, u které člověk nemá jistotu, že se nelogne a nezjistí, že je to něco úplně jiného než včera. Asi tak.
Jinak přehodit databáze na před-NGE je sice fajn nápad, ale každej další den se stává víc a víc snem. Pokud by to sOE udělala... pohřbila by se úplně.
na feedback každej v SOE z velký (hodně velký) vejšky sere |
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Jedi_Knight
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Posted - 06/12/2005 : 23:26:30
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Originally posted by Jedi_Knight
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Originally posted by Sagger
Before the first Combat Upgrade (unlovingly described as the combat downgrade) we were allowed to experience and test it on the Test Center Servers. When you logged out from them you were given a poll on how you liked it. Almost everyone hated it, did not want it, and still they launched it. They got our feedback then and didn#161;¦t care.
TENHLE ODSTAVEC je pitchovina. Fšichni rouzmní hráči věděli, že SWG potřebuje revamp jako sůl. Blbouni na fóru whinovali, ať to SOE nedělá, ale stejně věděli, že to tak bude... místo aby podali potřebnej feedback (jako to dělali např. korespondenti povolání), plácali nesmysly a psali petice.
ZBYTEK je zajímavá teorie, možná založená na pravdě, možná ne... Co se mě týče, jsem schopen tomu věřit. NGE jsem viděl u bratra a jak bylo řečeno na CzA srazu - nemá cenu hrát hru, u které člověk nemá jistotu, že se nelogne a nezjistí, že je to něco úplně jiného než včera. Asi tak.
Jinak přehodit databáze na před-NGE je sice fajn nápad, ale každej další den se stává víc a víc snem. Pokud by to sOE udělala... pohřbila by se úplně.
na feedback každej v SOE z velký (hodně velký) vejšky sere
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[Ianek][Paladin][Burning Blade][World of Warcraft]
Je rozdíl mezi tím znát cestu a kráčet po ní. - Morfeus |
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Olusriel
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Posted - 07/12/2005 : 10:15:55
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Originally posted by Jedi_Knight
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Originally posted by SNowie
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Originally posted by Jedi_Knight
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Originally posted by Sagger
Before the first Combat Upgrade (unlovingly described as the combat downgrade) we were allowed to experience and test it on the Test Center Servers. When you logged out from them you were given a poll on how you liked it. Almost everyone hated it, did not want it, and still they launched it. They got our feedback then and didn#161;¦t care.
TENHLE ODSTAVEC je pitchovina. Fšichni rouzmní hráči věděli, že SWG potřebuje revamp jako sůl. Blbouni na fóru whinovali, ať to SOE nedělá, ale stejně věděli, že to tak bude... místo aby podali potřebnej feedback (jako to dělali např. korespondenti povolání), plácali nesmysly a psali petice.
ZBYTEK je zajímavá teorie, možná založená na pravdě, možná ne... Co se mě týče, jsem schopen tomu věřit. NGE jsem viděl u bratra a jak bylo řečeno na CzA srazu - nemá cenu hrát hru, u které člověk nemá jistotu, že se nelogne a nezjistí, že je to něco úplně jiného než včera. Asi tak.
Jinak přehodit databáze na před-NGE je sice fajn nápad, ale každej další den se stává víc a víc snem. Pokud by to sOE udělala... pohřbila by se úplně.
na feedback každej v SOE z velký (hodně velký) vejšky sere
To nikdo nepopírá.
rekl bych ze to tentokrat chlapci dost podcenili. Pustit na vyvoj novy tym, aby totalne prekopal hru, kterou napsal nekdo jiny.. Na tom si muzou poradne nabit drzku a koneckoncu to tak zatim vypada. |
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