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SHIMI
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Shemiramoth
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 Posted - 19/07/2005 : 14:10:47
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| Je to pekne husty, asi se daji nejak klonovat prachy a itemy. Zabanovat nepomuze. Musi ten bug opravit to je jedina sance. |
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Firian
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 14:21:52
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WoW EU *Drak'Thul* Firun (Druid), *Darkspear* Firun (Shaman), *Thunderhorn* Milagros (Gnome Mage)
Anarchy Online *RK1* Firian (200 Fixer), Firian2 (216/10 Bureaucrat), Firian3 (60 Doctor), Firian4 (215/13 Shade), Milagros (217/15 Engineer), Firun (217/18 Enforcer) | *RK2* Milagros (120 Adv)
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Warlord
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 14:29:57
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Originally posted by Firian
Co bylo na tom obrázku?
SS z aukce kde bylo od jednoho cloveka asi 7x Krol Blade
http://www.thottbot.com/?i=8407 |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 14:32:13
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celdric
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 14:38:51
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mno lidi v tom diskusnim foru volaji po rollbacku... toz to jsem zvedavy...
kazdopadne ma to pry byt exploit svazany s padanim instance... ci co |
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MegaDeath
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:01:39
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Q u o t e:
You guys are right. They are duping gold, and the exploit details are freely available if you know where to go look for them. In fact, several posters already hit the nail on the head in their "speculations" as to the gold duping details.
I'd suggest reporting them. Blizz may not be able to track the gold, but they could probably do something to the players/accounts before they can transfer the gold off the accounts. As for the economies.. =/
Basically, how it works is that if an instance is down and someone tries to enter it and gets kicked out, they get rolled back. Character rollback + giving all your gold to a partner before rollback = free dupe.
As of 4:18am on Dethecus:
Alliance: 60 hunter + 30 rogue
Horde: 60 hunter + 30 rogue
HMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm.
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I can confirm this, and im the one that gave wonks the information
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celdric
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:05:56
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docela premyslim jak bys to vlastne udelal?
musel by ses postavit tesne ke vchodu... nahodit a akceptnout ze sve strany trade window a pak se pohnout do instance a ten druhej by dal accept az kdyz te vidi, ze jses pryc?
nebo jak se urci rollback time? |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:08:48
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quote:
Originally posted by celdric
docela premyslim jak bys to vlastne udelal?
musel by ses postavit tesne ke vchodu... nahodit a akceptnout ze sve strany trade window a pak se pohnout do instance a ten druhej by dal accept az kdyz te vidi, ze jses pryc?
nebo jak se urci rollback time?
Kdybych to vedel, tak tady nepostuju cizi post, ale napisu to sam  . Mno rozhodne na to lze prijit velmi rychle pokus omyl systemem. |
- If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain.
- When you can't run you crawl, when you can't crawl, when you can't do that, find someone to carry you.
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Warlord
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:10:32
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Originally posted by celdric
docela premyslim jak bys to vlastne udelal?
musel by ses postavit tesne ke vchodu... nahodit a akceptnout ze sve strany trade window a pak se pohnout do instance a ten druhej by dal accept az kdyz te vidi, ze jses pryc?
nebo jak se urci rollback time?
zkus to ve hre ne? :) |
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Warlord
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:12:14
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| btw proc tam sebou tahaj ty lvl 30? prave ten nizkej lvl zpusobi ten crash? |
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celdric
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:12:33
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Originally posted by Warlord
quote:
Originally posted by celdric
docela premyslim jak bys to vlastne udelal?
musel by ses postavit tesne ke vchodu... nahodit a akceptnout ze sve strany trade window a pak se pohnout do instance a ten druhej by dal accept az kdyz te vidi, ze jses pryc?
nebo jak se urci rollback time?
zkus to ve hre ne? :)
a riskovat ban? a proc vlastne? kvuli par zlatackum? to nestoji za to...
a nejsem ani placenej tester...tak nevim proc se tim trapit...
cely je to jen o tom, ze lidi kupujou gold za real money tak se vyplati cinanum vymejslet zpusoby jak vymlatit prachy co nejsnaz... a blizz jim to usnadnuje...
pro me by to melo mit pozitivum v tom, ze blizz bude nucenej neustale opravovat a zlepsovat server side... |
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celdric
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:13:14
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Originally posted by Warlord
btw proc tam sebou tahaj ty lvl 30? prave ten nizkej lvl zpusobi ten crash?
udajne je to min. level pro maraudon a jsou to classy ktere se daji nejrychleji naexpit na 30. level - rogue, mag, hunter... s tim,ze rogue dominuje |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:13:56
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Originally posted by Warlord
btw proc tam sebou tahaj ty lvl 30? prave ten nizkej lvl zpusobi ten crash?
Ne, pry jsi lvl 30 minimum pro vstup do Maraudonu |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:16:21
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Originally posted by celdric
a riskovat ban? a proc vlastne? kvuli par zlatackum? to nestoji za to...
a nejsem ani placenej tester...tak nevim proc se tim trapit...
cely je to jen o tom, ze lidi kupujou gold za real money tak se vyplati cinanum vymejslet zpusoby jak vymlatit prachy co nejsnaz... a blizz jim to usnadnuje...
pro me by to melo mit pozitivum v tom, ze blizz bude nucenej neustale opravovat a zlepsovat server side...
Ne, protoze kdyz na to prijdes a reknes jim presny postup, tak to jsou schopni opravit. Popis bugu je zaklad k odstraneni bugu. Bez dobryho testu + potrvzeni od testeru nemas sanci na opravu. A vim jak nechutny byly a jsou farmeri v LineAge II. Neco podobnyho bych nechtel zazit ve WoW.
Edit: Na serveru Uldum farmeri likviduji ekonomiku s ingoty. 20 thoria stoji kolem 15gold a 20 mithrilu kolem 8 gold. Jak by se ti libilo tohle? |
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celdric
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:23:43
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Originally posted by Shemiramoth
Ne, protoze kdyz na to prijdes a reknes jim presny postup, tak to jsou schopni opravit. Popis bugu je zaklad k odstraneni bugu. Bez dobryho testu + potrvzeni od testeru nemas sanci na opravu. A vim jak nechutny byly a jsou farmeri v LineAge II. Neco podobnyho bych nechtel zazit ve WoW.
Edit: Na serveru Uldum farmeri likviduji ekonomiku s ingoty. 20 thoria stoji kolem 15gold a 20 mithrilu kolem 8 gold. Jak by se ti libilo tohle?
nebudu se s tebou prit...
farmareni za a) nikdy nezabranis b) vzdycky bude c)kazdej ho tak nejak vice ci mene delame...
z jednoho topicu a blue postu jsem usoudil, ze blizz dev team sice neveri, ze maji nejaky exploit v maraudonu ale presto se na to podivaji a predpokladam, ze vyvojovy tym o 100 clenech ma dedicovane testery na zjisteni presne povahy problemu a cizi pokusy o reprodukci exploitu budou spise vnimany jako pokus o vlastni obohaceni a ne uprimna snaha zanalyzovat problem... nejsme na free scene, kde testovani lezi na bedrech hracu... |
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Little
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:24:01
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IMO se to z toho da odvodit
zonujete dovnitr a ven tak dlouho dokud server s instanci nespadne pokud rped tim date kolegovi veci ci penize a zazonujete teoreticky by vas to melo kopnout ven po relogu dostanete rollback a vsechny veci i s penezma byste meli mit zpet ale vas kamos je ma taky.
Nevim mozna je v tom nejakej jinej trick ale tohle zni celkem logicky. Nikdy sem to nezkousel takze to nemuzu potvrdit, kazdopadne by za to meli bannovat accounty. Ikdyz je to o nicem na ebay si na ne vydelaji v poho, ban IP nepomuze, pojedou pres jinou proxy...nic jineho nez opravit tenhle bug asi nepomuze. |
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Pacient
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:27:58
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Originally posted by Little
Nikdy sem to nezkousel takze to nemuzu potvrdit, kazdopadne by za to meli bannovat accounty. Ikdyz je to o nicem na ebay si na ne vydelaji v poho, ban IP nepomuze, pojedou pres jinou proxy...nic jineho nez opravit tenhle bug asi nepomuze.
Jo jedina vec jak to udelat je opravit ten bug. V LineAge zakazali IP vsem cinanum apod, ale stejne to obesli a problem se nevyresil. Vzhledem k tomu, ze vim jake to je v LAII, tak proste nebudu verit dokud to nebude opravene. NC Soft ma taky stovky zamestnancu a vidite jaky to je.. |
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celdric
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brutus
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:31:25
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quote:
Originally posted by celdric
quote:
Originally posted by Pacient
http://www.gamebugs.org/
http://www.edgeofnowhere.cc/viewtopic.php?t=300213
secky us servery jsou vypnuty
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/serverstatus/
parada...tohle je asi dost podstatna veta
"Only works once servers come up in the morning when the instance server is still loading; "
v Maraudonu to facha vzdycky protoze je buglej.... prej |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:33:36
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| Jo a je to ta orange instance. |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:51:20
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| Jo jinak doporucuju to locknout/hiddnout nebo delete. Posty navodu na exploity by se nemusely vyplatit. Postnul jsem to jenom za ucelem, abyste jste videli jak to pracuje a doufam, ze tady nemame zadnyho farmera. |
- If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain.
- When you can't run you crawl, when you can't crawl, when you can't do that, find someone to carry you.
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simir
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112 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:56:04
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[i]Postnul jsem to jenom za ucelem, abyste jste videli jak to pracuje a doufam, ze tady nemame zadnyho farmera.
No, člověk nikdy neví... |
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Pacient
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 15:57:01
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| Me se to uz stalo nejmin 3x, ze me to neloadlo do instance a zahodilo me to o kus 'predtim'. A ja dycky jenom nadaval jako debil misto abych honem dupoval veci. Uz sem mohl bejt bohatej, kdybych to vedel ;( |
Dutá hlava víc duní. |
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Seth
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SHIMI
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 16:30:45
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| jenom doufam ze to budou resit i na EU serverech... |
i got no time to lose mon, so i prefer having fun in real life ... comprehende ? |
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brutus
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 16:35:36
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Originally posted by SHIMI
jenom doufam ze to budou resit i na EU serverech...
 no jedine reseni je rollback o tejden dozadu..... je to to v co doufas?  |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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tsawo
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 16:43:44
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quote:
Originally posted by brutus
quote:
Originally posted by SHIMI
jenom doufam ze to budou resit i na EU serverech...
no jedine reseni je rollback o tejden dozadu..... je to to v co doufas?
Jak jsi prisel na to, ze jedinym resenim je rollback o tyden dozadu? Spis by tomu meli zamezit, ne udelat mass rollback. To je reseni typu slon v porcelanu... |
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Rahman
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 18:23:18
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Postovat navody na exploity opravdu neni dobry napad, je tu dost mladych hracu, ktere by snadno mohlo napadnout to zkusit a dost starych zavislaku, kteri "Je mi jedno ze je to bug nebo exploit, to prece neni muj problem, klidne budu exploitovat abych byl UBER".
Doporucuju vyhodit z tohohle topicu urcite pasaze.
Jinak bavit se o tom, ze exploity existuji mi neprijde v neporadku a jsem zvedav na reseni ze strany Blizzardu. Zatim co ja vim Blizzard ve pripadech, kdy se nekdo snazil podvadet, zakrocil docela radikalne. |
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Stilgar
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 19:25:02
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kazdopadne pokud to neni fama tak ten princip dupovani je jeste trapnejsi nez to jak se dupovalo skrz portal v Diablu1 ... nechapu jak by tam blizzard udelal tak lehce zneuzitelnou botu
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Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even God has never seen.
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Seth
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 19:46:29
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Originally posted by Stilgar
...ten princip dupovani je jeste trapnejsi nez to jak se dupovalo skrz portal v Diablu1 ...
kdyby jen pres portal
dupovat se dalo i normalne ve vesnici tim ze si sebral vec ze zeme a v momentu sebrani si kliknul na lahvicku v opasku a hodil ji na zem -> vec co si sebral
doufam ze se Blizzu podari vystopovat vetsinu "hrisniku" a potrestat je + opravit zmineny bug
Osobne se mi stalo uz nekolikrat, ze jsem mel problemy zazonovat do instance (instance not found msg) s tim ze napodruhe uz to slo - jednalo se o DM |
Seth
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-Mike-
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 20:49:00
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Originally posted by SHIMI
jenom doufam ze to budou resit i na EU serverech...
Na US uz to maj vyreseny nebo co? |
Krabice je zaklad. |
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frantar
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 21:02:06
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Originally posted by -Mike-
quote:
Originally posted by SHIMI
jenom doufam ze to budou resit i na EU serverech...
Na US uz to maj vyreseny nebo co?
na US co jsem se tak nějak dočetl z fóra, mají teďka (jako každý úterý) maintence, ale maj ju prodlouženou a že prej to řeší... jsem fakt hodně zvědavej jak to vyřešej.. |
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Spider
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Posted - 19/07/2005 : 22:28:50
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| Pokud to chapu spravne, tak se udela rollback do stavu pred vlezenim do instance. Pokud jsem ale pred vchodem nekomu dal prachy a pak vlezl do instance, tak stav predtim by mel byt ten, ze penize nemam. Jenze je tam asi nejakej timer, takze se to posune o kousek dozadu. To by proste neslo pri vlezeni do instance a startu loadovani udelat ihned na zacatku save postavy? Tak by se tento bug vlastne nedal vyuzit... snad to opravej.... |
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Shemiramoth
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Posted - 20/07/2005 : 08:33:59
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| Vidim ze nekdo smazal ten post. Prave jsem to chtel udelat. Ok diky za usetreni prace |
- If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain.
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FlashCz
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Posted - 20/07/2005 : 08:44:55
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| Si myslim, ze bugs byly, jsou a budou...at se to sem bude postovat nebo nebude..:) |
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brutus
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Posted - 20/07/2005 : 10:56:30
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| By mne docela zajimalo jak hodla dupovani Blizz resit - zatim to vypada na mrtvyho brouka a mazani vsech threadu na ofiko forech kde se o tom nekdo zmini ;) |
Darkness beyond twilight, Crimson beyond blood that flows, Buried in the stream of time is where your power grows, I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand, before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand, Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed, by the power you and I possess... DRAGON SLAVE! |
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spajdr
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Posted - 20/07/2005 : 11:01:07
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nejspis na tom jeste pracuji, proto to mazani  |
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Dibone
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Posted - 20/07/2005 : 14:59:01
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| hehe blizzardi s tim klonovanim itemu maj docela problemy uz od dob Diabla NA Diablu2 se jednu dobu klonovalo snad vsechno (a prirozene prodavalo za rlm), nez vysel tusim 1.1 patch, ale do ty doby si dost Polaku narejzovalo slusny prachy |
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Herbicid
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Posted - 20/07/2005 : 16:11:11
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Offic Stanovisko Blizzardu
http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general-en&T=405951&P=1 |
Barabariel Herbicidia - Conjurer - FFXIV:RR - [Ragnarok]
@Herbicid - Champions Online, Star Trek Online
There are many worlds where I visited already
Anarchy Online | Age of Conan | Warhammer Online | StarWars Galaxies | EVE | Earth&Beyond | World of Warcraft | Dungeons & Dragons Online | City of Villains and Heroes | Saga of Ryzom | Lord of the Rings Online
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brutus
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Herbicid
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Posted - 20/07/2005 : 16:40:08
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quote:
Originally posted by brutus
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Originally posted by Herbicid
Offic Stanovisko Blizzardu
http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general-en&T=405951&P=1
Bezi to uz prilis dlouho - nemuzou si dovolit udelat rollback 1 tejden z5. Tak to holt opravej a budou se tvarit ze se nic nestalo. Akorat se zvedne inflace a par farmeru si nahrabalo RL$.
btw: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4110588&p=1&tmp=1#post4110588
gamebugs.org FTW ;/
A ktery farmery myslis?
viz: Should any actual duping methods be confirmed, we will take the appropriate action in regard to the game and to any characters and accounts found to have been used with such an exploit.
Otazkou teda je jestli maji sanci to zjistit, ale IMHO ano. V DB by se to dalo dohledat v transakcnim logu :)
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@Herbicid - Champions Online, Star Trek Online
There are many worlds where I visited already
Anarchy Online | Age of Conan | Warhammer Online | StarWars Galaxies | EVE | Earth&Beyond | World of Warcraft | Dungeons & Dragons Online | City of Villains and Heroes | Saga of Ryzom | Lord of the Rings Online
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MegaDeath
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1989 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2005 : 20:25:26
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| jeeee herbe tak to bych docela rad videl |
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Isac
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Posted - 20/07/2005 : 21:38:06
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namnožíš prachy na novym účtu
pošleš ty prachy na svůj hlavní účet + 2 náhodny
a můžeš se jen smát :) |
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MegaDeath
Average Member
1989 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2005 : 22:56:19
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| tohle tu bylo uz v diablu2, na battle netu si nafarmil hromadu itemu, blizzard rosel log a farmici (botici) account ti zabanovali, tys mel 10 ruznejch mul plnejch itemu... |
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celdric
Average Member
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Posted - 21/07/2005 : 07:15:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Herbicid
A ktery farmery myslis?
viz: Should any actual duping methods be confirmed, we will take the appropriate action in regard to the game and to any characters and accounts found to have been used with such an exploit.
Otazkou teda je jestli maji sanci to zjistit, ale IMHO ano. V DB by se to dalo dohledat v transakcnim logu :)
hmm kazdopadne se nabizi otazka jestli nebude bezpecnejsi tedka na AH nekupovat vubec nic... protoze spravedlnost je slepa... a pokud koupim neco zdupovanyho... tak se taky muzu dockat toho, ze uz svoje chary neuvidim... |
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