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Bubak
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  13:27:18  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chci si udelat dual sword rogua a zajimalo by me jaky mate nazor na tento build, popr. co mam pridat/ubrat. Jediny cim si v tomto buildu nejsem jisty je imp. instant poison, ale nevim jak jinak bych se mel dostat ke Cold blood :(

Class: Rogue
Level: 60
Assassination Talents (21 points)

# Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

# Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

# Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

# Improved Slice and Dice - 3/3 points
Increases the duration of your Slice and Dice ability by 45%.

# Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.

# Improved Instant Poison - 5/5 points
Increases the chance to apply Instant Poison to your target by 10%.

# Cold Blood - 1/1 point
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.

Combat Talents (30 points)

# Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5 Energy.

# Lightning Reflexes - 3/5 points
Increases your Dodge chance by 3%.

# Precision - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%.

# Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

# Riposte - 1/1 point
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 seconds.

# Dual Wield Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 50%.

# Sword Specialization - 5/5 points
Gives you a 6% chance to get an extra attack after dealing damage with your Sword.

# Blade Flurry - 1/1 point
Increases your attack speed by 20%. In addition, attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 seconds.

# Aggression - 3/3 points
Increases the damage of your Sinister Strike and Eviscerate abilities by 6%.

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Warlord
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  14:12:27  Show Profile  Send Warlord an ICQ Message Send Warlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sem se mozna hodi muj dotaz: kdyz mam dual wield musi ta druha zbran byt nejaka specialni jakoze musi mit popisek off-hand nebo muzou byt obe normalni, rozumej main-hand
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spajdr
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  14:15:52  Show Profile  Visit spajdr's Homepage  Send spajdr an ICQ Message Send spajdr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ta druhá musí být offhand.
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  14:16:15  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
main hand muze bejt jen primarni zbran
druha zbran musi bejt bud off-hand (to se tyka spis kouzelniku) nebo (a to nejcasteji) - ONE HAND

jinak ja bych sral na poisony a dal bych radsi "lethality"
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Bubak
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  14:27:29  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

jinak ja bych sral na poisony a dal bych radsi "lethality"


Rekl bych, te lethality pro me nema vyznam, pojedu pure dual sword, ne zadny switchovani na dagger/sword kvuli backstabu apod, takze by mi to pridavalo jenom dmg do sinister strike a to je docela slaby ne ?

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  14:30:42  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no sinister snad bude tvuj jedinej a hlavni utok, ne?


Edited by - MegaDeath on 01/03/2005 14:31:48
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Bubak
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  14:47:41  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

no sinister snad bude tvuj jedinej a hlavni utok, ne?


Nj mas pravdu, tohle mi jaksi nedoslo
Edit: A jinak to vypada slusne ?

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Edited by - Bubak on 01/03/2005 14:49:37
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spajdr
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  14:48:34  Show Profile  Visit spajdr's Homepage  Send spajdr an ICQ Message Send spajdr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
uvažuju jestli je lepší mít meč co dává 27-51 nebo dýku co má trochu více než polovinu damage toho meče, ale díky speed 1.40 je rychlejší a tak DPS je větší než u toho meče, co je lepší teda? dvakrát útok kudlou oproti jednomu s mečem, ale menší damage?

Bubak : jinak mám skoro stejný build

Edited by - spajdr on 01/03/2005 14:51:02
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Bubak
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  14:51:00  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spajdr

uvažuju jestli je lepší mít meč co dává 27-51 nebo dýku co má trochu více než polovinu damage toho meče, ale díky speed 1.40 je rychlejší a tak DPS je větší než u toho meče, co je lepší teda? dvakrát útok kudlou oproti jednomu s mečem, ale menší damage?


V main handu se doporucuje velkej min a max dmg (nehledi se na DPS, ale na ten dmg) a do druhy ruky neco rychlyho na poison. Sinister strike totiz ignoruje weapon speed.
Edit: 2Spider: Tak to jsem rad a jak se ti s nim hraje ?

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Edited by - Bubak on 01/03/2005 14:52:03
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spajdr
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  14:54:03  Show Profile  Visit spajdr's Homepage  Send spajdr an ICQ Message Send spajdr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
V pohodě, sice občas minu více než je zdrávo (agility teď mám 94) ale většinou co druhý zásah je 100-120 za hit. Nemám ten pocit že postavá se při bojí nějak fláká, dodge i parry je vidět. Těším se na riposte
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Bubak
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  15:10:09  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spajdr

V pohodě, sice občas minu více než je zdrávo (agility teď mám 94) ale většinou co druhý zásah je 100-120 za hit. Nemám ten pocit že postavá se při bojí nějak fláká, dodge i parry je vidět. Těším se na riposte


Tak to je dobre a jak se s tim soluje ? S magem jsem daval potvory o 2lvly vyssi nez jsem byl ja docela v pohode, takze doufam, ze rogue na tom bude stejne nebo dokonce o neco malo lip.

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  15:11:53  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bubak

quote:
Originally posted by spajdr

V pohodě, sice občas minu více než je zdrávo (agility teď mám 94) ale většinou co druhý zásah je 100-120 za hit. Nemám ten pocit že postavá se při bojí nějak fláká, dodge i parry je vidět. Těším se na riposte


Tak to je dobre a jak se s tim soluje ? S magem jsem daval potvory o 2lvly vyssi nez jsem byl ja docela v pohode, takze doufam, ze rogue na tom bude stejne nebo dokonce o neco malo lip.


se svym rogue sem ted na tom rozhodne lip nez predtim s magem - ale jedu na stun, nemam totiz po boji potrebu skoro nic doplnovat, s magem sem musel 20-sec chlastat nez sem mohl jit dal
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spajdr
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  15:15:41  Show Profile  Visit spajdr's Homepage  Send spajdr an ICQ Message Send spajdr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bubak

quote:
Originally posted by spajdr

V pohodě, sice občas minu více než je zdrávo (agility teď mám 94) ale většinou co druhý zásah je 100-120 za hit. Nemám ten pocit že postavá se při bojí nějak fláká, dodge i parry je vidět. Těším se na riposte


Tak to je dobre a jak se s tim soluje ? S magem jsem daval potvory o 2lvly vyssi nez jsem byl ja docela v pohode, takze doufam, ze rogue na tom bude stejne nebo dokonce o neco malo lip.



V klidu :-) při zdraví 810 mi po boji zůstane 450-550 .. někdy i více, záleží jak se šmejd trefuje, pokud hodím evasion ke konci a jdu hned na druhého tak není problém ho zmasit do deseti sekund (měl jsem level 24 a on 26=Mottled Scytheclaws a Mottled Razormaws) díky remorseless attacks (mám tam jenom bod)
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Bubak
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  15:41:55  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tak mam jeste jeden dotaz, porad nekde ctu, ze rogue nema moc sanci se dostat do highlvl instanci, protoze prej vubec neni potreba, zajimalo by me, co je na tom pravdy, protoze mi to prijde trochu divny, rogue ma prece jenom velice solidni dmg, sap a kdyz chytne agro tak feint.

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  15:47:32  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bubak

Tak mam jeste jeden dotaz, porad nekde ctu, ze rogue nema moc sanci se dostat do highlvl instanci, protoze prej vubec neni potreba, zajimalo by me, co je na tom pravdy, protoze mi to prijde trochu divny, rogue ma prece jenom velice solidni dmg, sap a kdyz chytne agro tak feint.


co sem tak cetl:
feint ti nepomuze proti AoE damage
damage mas teoreticky sice peknou, ale zemres na dve rany - leather armor neni zrovna na boj s tema potvorama
sap v tech instancich nefunguje a pokud funguje, tak vetsinou chytnes aggro a umres
neboli rogue neni tank, neni healer, neni damage dealer - vsichni rogues cekaj s cim prijde blizzard a kdy jim konecne da nejakou roli v high raid instancich
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MegaDeath
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  15:49:46  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nejlepsi post s touhle tematikou co sem cetl byl nejak ve smyslu:

Q: co ma delat rogue u onixie?
A: zmacknout stealth a cekat jak to dopadne, kdyz umrete tak muzes jakozto jedinej zivej prohlasit - "konecne ten vanish zafungoval", kdyz vyhrajete tak se zviditelnis a rikas jak jste ji to nandali ;)
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Bubak
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Posted - 01/03/2005 :  15:58:42  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

quote:
Originally posted by Bubak

Tak mam jeste jeden dotaz, porad nekde ctu, ze rogue nema moc sanci se dostat do highlvl instanci, protoze prej vubec neni potreba, zajimalo by me, co je na tom pravdy, protoze mi to prijde trochu divny, rogue ma prece jenom velice solidni dmg, sap a kdyz chytne agro tak feint.


co sem tak cetl:
feint ti nepomuze proti AoE damage
damage mas teoreticky sice peknou, ale zemres na dve rany - leather armor neni zrovna na boj s tema potvorama
sap v tech instancich nefunguje a pokud funguje, tak vetsinou chytnes aggro a umres
neboli rogue neni tank, neni healer, neni damage dealer - vsichni rogues cekaj s cim prijde blizzard a kdy jim konecne da nejakou roli v high raid instancich


No tak presne tohle sem cetl, kamos co mel rogueho kolem lvlu 30 mi tvrdil, ze nemel problem se dostat do grupy na instanci, coz mu klidne verim, ale jak tak vidim, tak se to na 60 meni a rogue si teda moc highlvl instanci neuzije, chtelo by to zavest nejaky pasti/zamceny dvere aby tam rogue musel jit, ikdyz by to asi nebylo uplne idealni reseni.

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Ethir
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Posted - 02/03/2005 :  13:35:53  Show Profile  Send Ethir an ICQ Message Send Ethir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Misto Instant Poison bych ti doporucoval spis Imp. Expose Armor, proti classum s vysokym armor je to hodne velka vyhoda... precejenom s 5 combo body muzes srazit cca 2400 armor a to je v delsim boji dosti znat


[WoW] Ethir <Zdechliny>, Frozen Rogue
[EQ] Ethir <MdK>, Frozen Ranger
[EQ2] Ethirea <MdK>, Frozen Troubador

Edited by - Ethir on 02/03/2005 13:46:06
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DarkFace
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Posted - 02/03/2005 :  17:53:20  Show Profile  Visit DarkFace's Homepage  Send DarkFace an ICQ Message Send DarkFace a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bubak

Tak mam jeste jeden dotaz, porad nekde ctu, ze rogue nema moc sanci se dostat do highlvl instanci, protoze prej vubec neni potreba, zajimalo by me, co je na tom pravdy, protoze mi to prijde trochu divny, rogue ma prece jenom velice solidni dmg, sap a kdyz chytne agro tak feint.


Zavisi od toho co povazujes za high lvl instance :P. Rogue sa vsade stale hodi (okrem boja s Onyxiou). Problemom roguov nie je to, ze su na lvl60 neuzitocni, ale ich mnozstvo.

"I must not Fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is little death that brings total obliteration. I will let it pass through me and over me. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. "
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Bubak
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Posted - 02/03/2005 :  18:20:03  Show Profile  Send Bubak an ICQ Message Send Bubak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DarkFace
Zavisi od toho co povazujes za high lvl instance :P. Rogue sa vsade stale hodi (okrem boja s Onyxiou). Problemom roguov nie je to, ze su na lvl60 neuzitocni, ale ich mnozstvo.

Jo to je asi taky dost mozny, sem myslel, ze roguu moc nebude a prej jich je jak much :(

quote:
Originally posted by Ethir
Misto Instant Poison bych ti doporucoval spis Imp. Expose Armor, proti classum s vysokym armor je to hodne velka vyhoda... precejenom s 5 combo body muzes srazit cca 2400 armor a to je v delsim boji dosti znat

Vezmu si Lethality, imo expose armor mi prijde jako pomerne nepouzitelny, rogue potrebuje zabijet rychle a ne dat 5CP do expose armoru, mozna, ze se to uplatni v raidech, ale nevim.

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DarkFace
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Posted - 02/03/2005 :  18:27:04  Show Profile  Visit DarkFace's Homepage  Send DarkFace an ICQ Message Send DarkFace a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bubak
Vezmu si Lethality, imo expose armor mi prijde jako pomerne nepouzitelny, rogue potrebuje zabijet rychle a ne dat 5CP do expose armoru, mozna, ze se to uplatni v raidech, ale nevim.



Expose ROZHODNE neber, radsej namaxuj Lethality SS je tvoj primarny utok .

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Starker
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Posted - 04/03/2005 :  01:30:36  Show Profile  Visit Starker's Homepage Send Starker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
tak to s tema high instancema me celkem zamrzelo :/

jinak dual sword wield a PVP: jde to dohromady?

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Posted - 04/03/2005 :  09:20:21  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Starker

tak to s tema high instancema me celkem zamrzelo :/

jinak dual sword wield a PVP: jde to dohromady?


samozrejme! jen je jasny, ze k tomu nebudes maxovat pres talenty backstab a ambush :)
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Posted - 04/03/2005 :  10:16:52  Show Profile  Send Araya an ICQ Message Send Araya a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

quote:
Originally posted by Bubak

Tak mam jeste jeden dotaz, porad nekde ctu, ze rogue nema moc sanci se dostat do highlvl instanci, protoze prej vubec neni potreba, zajimalo by me, co je na tom pravdy, protoze mi to prijde trochu divny, rogue ma prece jenom velice solidni dmg, sap a kdyz chytne agro tak feint.



damage mas teoreticky sice peknou, ale zemres na dve rany - leather armor neni zrovna na boj s tema potvorama



mno s tim armorem si myslim ze i rogue ma na lvl 40 moznost mit mail armor
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Posted - 04/03/2005 :  10:19:39  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
myslel si to jako ze by mel mit moznost, ze jo? no, bylo by to prima :)
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Posted - 04/03/2005 :  10:48:19  Show Profile  Send Araya an ICQ Message Send Araya a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

myslel si to jako ze by mel mit moznost, ze jo? no, bylo by to prima :)


mno jedu rogua pro odpocinek od samana a u trenera sem koukal nabidka mailu tam je
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Scout
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Posted - 04/03/2005 :  10:59:36  Show Profile  Send Scout an ICQ Message Send Scout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
to je nejaka kravina rogue muze jen leather


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MegaDeath
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quote:
Originally posted by Araya

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

myslel si to jako ze by mel mit moznost, ze jo? no, bylo by to prima :)


mno jedu rogua pro odpocinek od samana a u trenera sem koukal nabidka mailu tam je


je, ale jen u toho shamana :)
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1. Lockpick - kdo jinej votevre v hig instancich truhlu ze

2. Rogue ma sice jen lether ale malo co ho trefuje takze predstava ze lehne na 2 rany je dost mimo misu pac ty 2 rany jsou dodge a parry pripadne absorb, btw. na 38 levelu mam zhruba 2k hp takze na 2 rany me dal akorad 62+ elite drak . (jinak. zatim sem pokazde ustal vic nez war takze co tady pise MegaDeath vo agru a 2 ranach je s prominutim naprosta picovina )

3. Pokud je dd grupa tak nemusi jet na damage ale na stunty coz je podle me parada pro celou grupu.

4. Imho best puler, navic v hidu muze omrknout situaci + SAP taky neni k zahozeni.

Myslim ze rogue je peknej char pro instance.
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Originally posted by MegaDeath

quote:
Originally posted by Araya

quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

myslel si to jako ze by mel mit moznost, ze jo? no, bylo by to prima :)


mno jedu rogua pro odpocinek od samana a u trenera sem koukal nabidka mailu tam je


je, ale jen u toho shamana :)


jo je to kravina tak to ma asi hunter
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Posted - 05/03/2005 :  03:41:56  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PRIBOO

1. Lockpick - kdo jinej votevre v hig instancich truhlu ze

2. Rogue ma sice jen lether ale malo co ho trefuje takze predstava ze lehne na 2 rany je dost mimo misu pac ty 2 rany jsou dodge a parry pripadne absorb, btw. na 38 levelu mam zhruba 2k hp takze na 2 rany me dal akorad 62+ elite drak . (jinak. zatim sem pokazde ustal vic nez war takze co tady pise MegaDeath vo agru a 2 ranach je s prominutim naprosta picovina )

3. Pokud je dd grupa tak nemusi jet na damage ale na stunty coz je podle me parada pro celou grupu.

4. Imho best puler, navic v hidu muze omrknout situaci + SAP taky neni k zahozeni.

Myslim ze rogue je peknej char pro instance.


bavime se o highend instancich jako je MC
1] blacksmith?
2] jestli si ustal vic nez war, tak je to predevsim neschopnosti wara opratrit si equip
3] uz ve scarlet monastery poznas, ze jedinej boss se neda stunnout
4] rogue, kterej pulluje, umre... ani ten blbej sap neni 100%ni

proti kouzlum a aoe elemental damage te neochrani sance na dodge
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Posted - 05/03/2005 :  18:45:31  Show Profile  Send PRIBOO an ICQ Message Send PRIBOO a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MegaDeath

bavime se o highend instancich jako je MC
1] blacksmith?
2] jestli si ustal vic nez war, tak je to predevsim neschopnosti wara opratrit si equip
3] uz ve scarlet monastery poznas, ze jedinej boss se neda stunnout
4] rogue, kterej pulluje, umre... ani ten blbej sap neni 100%ni

proti kouzlum a aoe elemental damage te neochrani sance na dodge



1. Zatim sem moc lidi s paklicm nepotkal
2. Nebo je to schopnosti rogua opatrit si equip
3. Nemluvim tady o 5ti bossech v instanci
4. Kdykoli sem puloval tak sem neumrel a je spousta veci ktery ma rogue aby se tak nestalo

proti kouzlum a aoe elemental damage te neochrani sance na dodge - stejne tak jako wara

Edited by - PRIBOO on 05/03/2005 18:46:09
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Originally posted by PRIBOO


2. Rogue ma sice jen lether ale malo co ho trefuje takze predstava ze lehne na 2 rany je dost mimo misu pac ty 2 rany jsou dodge a parry pripadne absorb, btw. na 38 levelu mam zhruba 2k hp takze na 2 rany me dal akorad 62+ elite drak . (jinak. zatim sem pokazde ustal vic nez war takze co tady pise MegaDeath vo agru a 2 ranach je s prominutim naprosta picovina )


To je spise tim ze do lvl 40 nema plech plate.A dmg obdrzena v leather a v mail se zase nijak radove nelisi....po tomto levlu uz je rogue jako tank na nic..

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 06/03/2005 :  03:21:10  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
dneska nam tankoval warrior zhruba lvl42 a damage reduction 48% -jeste nebyl full plate, to se s rogue neda vubec nijak srovnavat
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Krtecek
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Posted - 10/03/2005 :  19:27:27  Show Profile  Send Krtecek an ICQ Message Send Krtecek a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Subtlety Mastery
Master of Deception
Rank 5/5
Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode. More effective than Master of Deception (Rank 4).

Opportunity
Rank 5/5
Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Garrote, or Ambush abilities by 20%.

Improved Ambush
Rank 2/3
Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 30%.

Subtlety Total: 12

Combat Mastery
Improved Gouge
Rank 3/3
Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5 secs.

Improved Sinister Strike
Rank 2/2
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5.

Improved Backstab
Rank 3/3
Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 30%.

Deflection
Rank 5/5
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

Precision
Rank 5/5
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%.

Riposte
Rank 1/1
10 Energy 5 yd range
Instant 6 sec cooldown
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 sec.

Improved Sprint
Rank 3/3
Reduces the cooldown of your Sprint ability by 90 secs.

Improved Kick
Rank 2/2
Gives your Kick ability a 100% chance to silence the target for 2 sec.

Dual Wield Specialization
Rank 5/5
Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 50%.

Blade Flurry
Rank 1/1
25 Energy
Instant 2 min cooldown
Requires Melee Weapon
Increases your attack speed by 20%. In addition, attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 sec.

Adrenaline Rush
Rank 1/1
Instant 6 min cooldown
Increases your Energy regeneration rate by 100% for 15 sec.

Combat Total: 31

Assassination Mastery
Improved Eviscerate
Rank 3/3
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

Remorseless Attacks
Rank 2/5
After killing an opponent that yields experience, gives you a 16% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 sec.

Improved Slice and Dice
Rank 3/3
Increases the duration of your Slice and Dice ability by 45%.

Assassination Total: 8
Total
Total Points Spent: 51
Level Required: 60

DP/BG - Krtecek, The Mage [sold/lost], Grandmaster Flamer.
To ze jsem paranoidni, jeste neznamena, ze po me nejdou

Edited by - Krtecek on 10/03/2005 19:39:23
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Starker
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Posted - 11/03/2005 :  10:14:07  Show Profile  Visit Starker's Homepage Send Starker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lepsi je jet na Cold blood nez na Adrenaline rush, protoze clovek kdyz si vymlati 5CP pak da critical s eviscerate a to vetsina lidi lehne ;))

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MegaDeath
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Posted - 11/03/2005 :  10:20:38  Show Profile  Send MegaDeath an ICQ Message Send MegaDeath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no a nejlepsi je kdyz pak das CB + evis a ..... *miss*
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beldor5
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Posted - 11/03/2005 :  12:16:40  Show Profile  Send beldor5 an ICQ Message Send beldor5 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mno vcera jsem jel takovej skoro duel s rouguem na stejnym levlu(40),zacal jsem bohuzel v kocce protoze jsem nemel cas na reshift, na 3/5 hp jsem si rikam ze reshiftnu healnu se a skusim ho bud urotovat+blast a nebo umlatit v medovi a von mi tesne pred mojim instahealem hodil crit enviscerate za 1/2 hp....todle jako fakt nechapu.Nevim jestli jel pres CB ,ale takovedle endy jsou na me trosku moc.-> envis za 900hp. a to boj trval asi 10 sekund.

=nerf rogue

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Krtecek
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Posted - 11/03/2005 :  13:12:08  Show Profile  Send Krtecek an ICQ Message Send Krtecek a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nerf belor :]

coz vo to ja bych jel cold blood jenze poterbuji mit hodne v combatu, a pak uz mi na cb nezbejva :]

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To ze jsem paranoidni, jeste neznamena, ze po me nejdou

Edited by - Krtecek on 11/03/2005 13:12:52
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Krtecek
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Posted - 11/03/2005 :  14:18:22  Show Profile  Send Krtecek an ICQ Message Send Krtecek a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Subtlety Mastery
Master of Deception
Rank 5/5
Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode. More effective than Master of Deception (Rank 4).

Subtlety Total: 5


Combat Mastery
Improved Gouge
Rank 3/3
Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5 secs.

Improved Sinister Strike
Rank 2/2
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5.

Improved Backstab
Rank 3/3
Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 30%.

Deflection
Rank 5/5
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

Precision
Rank 5/5
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%.

Riposte
Rank 1/1
10 Energy 5 yd range
Instant 6 sec cooldown
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 sec.

Dual Wield Specialization
Rank 3/5
Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 30%.

Blade Flurry
Rank 1/1
25 Energy
Instant 2 min cooldown
Requires Melee Weapon
Increases your attack speed by 20%. In addition, attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 sec.

Combat Total: 23

Assassination Mastery
Improved Eviscerate
Rank 3/3
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

Malice
Rank 5/5
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

Ruthlessness
Rank 3/3
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

Improved Slice and Dice
Rank 3/3
Increases the duration of your Slice and Dice ability by 45%.

Relentless Strikes
Rank 1/1
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.

Lethality
Rank 5/5
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.

Improved Kidney Shot
Rank 2/3
Reduces the cooldown of your Kidney Shot ability by 4 secs.

Cold Blood
Rank 1/1
Instant 3 min cooldown
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.

Assassination Total: 23
Total
Total Points Spent: 51
Level Required: 60

DP/BG - Krtecek, The Mage [sold/lost], Grandmaster Flamer.
To ze jsem paranoidni, jeste neznamena, ze po me nejdou
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Starker
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Posted - 11/03/2005 :  18:26:32  Show Profile  Visit Starker's Homepage Send Starker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
muj novej

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Class: Rogue
Level: 60


Assassination Talents (21 points)

# Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

# Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

# Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

# Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.

# Lethality - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.

# Vile Poisons - 3/5 points
Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 9%.

# Cold Blood - 1/1 point
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.



Combat Talents (30 points)

# Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5 Energy.

# Lightning Reflexes - 5/5 points
Increases your Dodge chance by 5%.

# Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

# Precision - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%.

# Riposte - 1/1 point
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 seconds.

# Improved Kick - 2/2 points
Gives your Kick ability a 100% chance to silence the target for 2 seconds.

# Dual Wield Specialization - 1/5 point
Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 10%.

# Blade Flurry - 1/1 point
Increases your attack speed by 20%. In addition, attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 seconds.

# Sword Specialization - 5/5 points
Gives you a 6% chance to get an extra attack after dealing damage with your Sword.

# Aggression - 3/3 points
Increases the damage of your Sinister Strike and Eviscerate abilities by 6%.



Subtlety Talents (0 points)

# None



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mo0dy
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Posted - 19/02/2006 :  18:24:17  Show Profile  Send mo0dy an ICQ Message Send mo0dy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Muzete mi nekdo prosimvas aspon naznacit jak by mohl vypadat na lvl 32 dual sword build? Vubec nevim jak to mam udelat... chci tam CB (Cold Blood) a taky dost v combat... dik

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Brum
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Posted - 23/02/2006 :  16:53:35  Show Profile Send Brum a Private Message  Reply with Quote
CB a hodne v combat na lvl 32 nejde. Jednoduse proto, protoze mas o polovinu min skill pointu nez je maximum na levelu 60.
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Brum
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Posted - 23/02/2006 :  16:59:45  Show Profile Send Brum a Private Message  Reply with Quote
2Starker

Hele tvuj build je vic na PvP, na coz ale combat build neni moc stavenej, pokud nejsi oblecenej ve full epic gearu. Nejvetsi damage z combat buildu prichazi z bilych cisel (obycejny utoky) a tudiz bych ti doporucil mi urcite Dual Wield Specc 5/5.
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Honsou
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Posted - 24/02/2006 :  09:59:05  Show Profile Send Honsou a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mo0dy

Muzete mi nekdo prosimvas aspon naznacit jak by mohl vypadat na lvl 32 dual sword build? Vubec nevim jak to mam udelat... chci tam CB (Cold Blood) a taky dost v combat... dik



na lvleni rogue se obecne nejlip vyplaci jet combat co to jde, pokud chces mece tak na 32lvl skus tohle http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?00000000000000003200550100050020000000000000000000000

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samvoj
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Posted - 22/04/2010 :  15:00:39  Show Profile  Visit samvoj's Homepage  Send samvoj an ICQ Message Send samvoj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sice je Rogues dost, ale mezi těma tucty roguu se najde 2-3procenta dobrých rogue na světě ;-) ano rogue je sviňák, ale jenom tehdy, když to doopravdy umí a ten kdo si stěžuje na rogue, by si měl zvolit jinou strategii na tuhle classu.

Edit: jinak já se za dobrýho rogue nepovažuju, ani nikdy považovat nebudu, na to mám ještě dost času.
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Eagle
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Posted - 23/04/2010 :  10:29:26  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
a proc nam to pises?

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Araya
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Posted - 23/04/2010 :  10:52:41  Show Profile  Send Araya an ICQ Message Send Araya a Private Message  Reply with Quote
by me taky zajimalo
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