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Octopuss
rumový kanál

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Posted - 26/02/2009 :  10:23:51  Show Profile Send Octopuss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Active Game and Account Monitoring. You agree that Aventurine may use whatever procedures or protocols it may deem necessary to monitor your computer and activity in the Game and the World. This may include, but is not limited to, monitoring your personal computer to determine the validity of your installation you account and the Game and to assure that you are not using any third party software that might violate these TOS or the EULA. You agree that Aventurine or its authorized agents may monitor, by any means, your computer’s CPU, operating system, video card, sound card and memory information in order to analyze and optimize your Game experience, improve and maintain the Game and the World or to provide customer service. If you request customer service or technical support, you understand and agree to Aventurine or its authorized agents engaging in remote access and review of your computer for purposes of such support. In addition, though not obliged to do so, Aventurine may monitor, record, review, modify or disclose any player chat in the Game of the World, whether voice or text, without notice, and you hereby consent to such monitoring, recording, review, modification or disclosure. Notwithstanding the foregoing, you understand that you participate in any chat in the Game or the World at your own risk.


Tak tohle se mi hrubě nelíbí. Co myslíte?

Edited by - Octopuss on 26/02/2009 10:25:15

Ancestor
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Posted - 26/02/2009 :  11:02:55  Show Profile Send Ancestor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No pokud tim nezjistej nelegalni verzi windovsů tak to muze byt jedno ne
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Isac
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Mr. Orange

2433 Posts

Posted - 26/02/2009 :  11:04:34  Show Profile  Visit Isac's Homepage  Send Isac an ICQ Message Send Isac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Myslíme si o tom, že něco podobnýho je v EULE každý MMO a nejen v nich. Copak asi dělá takovej PunkBuster nebo SecuROM :)
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Eagle
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2225 Posts

Posted - 26/02/2009 :  19:16:23  Show Profile  Send Eagle an ICQ Message Send Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nebo treba icq :)

UO, SWG, WoW, EVE, DF, LoL
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Rodier
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StavkaDJu

4328 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2009 :  08:42:49  Show Profile  Visit Rodier's Homepage  Send Rodier an ICQ Message Send Rodier a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nektere casti EULY jsou prej v EU "bez podpory"..

co mi prijde hodne uhozeny je ten remote access :-D


First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave!
Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.

Edited by - Rodier on 27/02/2009 08:43:34
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Palias
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Posted - 06/03/2009 :  10:36:00  Show Profile Send Palias a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nevidím na tom nic špatného. Samozřejmě je tu možnost "zneužití" ale ta je podl mne mizivá. Tyto smluvní klauzule jsou většinou stanovovány kvůli tomu aby developeři mohli libovolně odesílat informace z logů ze hry a podobně. A buďme za to rádi, poskytují často důležité informace k lazení a statistikám.

Pukud někdo zrovna kvůli tomuhle tak bych z toho nedělal drama. Jsou nebezpečnější věci které mohou umožnit vynešení vašich citlivých dat z pc.
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Isac
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Mr. Orange

2433 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2009 :  10:50:11  Show Profile  Visit Isac's Homepage  Send Isac an ICQ Message Send Isac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mimochodem, čtete si vždycky před spuštěním celou EULU ? Abyste věděli s čím vlastně souhlasíte, jestli v posledním updatu náhodou nedali na konec odeslání vašich dětí a manželky do otroctví.

Demence světu vládne.
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Morticia
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Morticia

74 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2009 :  19:30:36  Show Profile Send Morticia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Odeslani manzelky do otroctvi? Je tam nejaka castka ve zlate co za to?
Tento tyden me pekne stve, navic o vikendu pozvala svou matku, coz me prinutilo vzit si vikendovou sluzbu v praci, takze si zas neodpocinu.

A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Mrs. Svine, Reservoir Dogs

Edited by - Morticia on 06/03/2009 19:31:44
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Dynty
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Dynty2

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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  01:12:20  Show Profile Send Dynty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
njn ale tucne jsi neoznacil tu dulezitou podminku "If you request customer service or technical support
vzdyt je to dobry..jako vetsina chlapu si nenecha 19letyho technika z help linky postelovat nastaveni vodniho chlazni na grafarne,ale ty hry hrajou i holky a vselijaky casualove a jestli nekdo nekdy vysvetloval svoji holce po telefonu jak stahnout a nainstalovat spravny AGP ovladace pro zakladni desku,aby si mohla pustit to super video z emailu se zvukem,tak urcite da zapravdu ze je lepsi ji nanavigovat na logmein.com a pak to za 4minuty udelat sam na dalku.

www.boiians.cz
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Rodier
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StavkaDJu

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Posted - 17/03/2009 :  13:44:33  Show Profile  Visit Rodier's Homepage  Send Rodier an ICQ Message Send Rodier a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jak si kazdej otvira hubu ze zazaluje aventurine za ty fronty apodobne keci..aniz by si predem neprecetli EULU (nevim jak moc je to skutecne proveditelne..fakt jsem cetl ze nektere casti smluv u her nejsou proveditelne.. )


Limitation of Liability. (neboli omezeni zopovednosti)

AS A CONDITION OF THE LIMITED LICENSE TO THE GAME AND THE WORLD AND OF YOUR CONTINUED USE AND ACCESS TO THE GAME AND THE WORLD YOU AGREE THAT AVENTURINE OR ITS AGENTS, SUBSIDIARIES, LICENSORS OR AFFILIATES WILL NOT BE LIABLE IN ANY WAY FOR

(Pokracovanim pouziti a pristupu do hry/sveta souhlasis s podminkou omezenim zalovatelnosti Aventurine a jejich spolufirem v pripade ze dojde k)

DAMAGE OR LOSS OF ANY KIND RESULTING FROM YOUR USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THE GAME OR WORLD.
ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE TO YOUR PLAYER CHARACTERS, ACCOUNTS, STATISTICS, INVENTORIES OR PLAYER PROFILE INFORMATION, FOR ANY INTERRUPTIONS OF YOUR ABILITY TO PLAY THE GAME OR ACCESS THE WORLD,
FOR ANY SOFTWARE OR HARDWARE FAILURES OR ANY OTHER EVENT WHICH MAY RESULT IN A LOSS OF DATA OR DISRUPTION OF YOUR ABILITY TO PLAY THE GAME OR ACCESS THE WORLD.

poskozeni/ztrate ktere povede k nemoznosti pouzivat hru/svet
poskoze/ztrate hracskych postav, uctu, statistik, inventare ci informaci o hraci
preruseni moznosti vyuzivat hru ci pristupovat do sveta
SW/HW chyby nebo jina udalost ktera muze vest ke ztrate dat ci naruseni moznosti hrat hru ci byt ve svete

YOU FURTHER AGREE THAT YOU WILL NOT ASSERT OR MAKE ANY CLAIM OR SUIT AGAINST AVENTURINES OR ITS AGENTS, SUBSIDIARIES, LICENSORS OR AFFILIATES RELATED TO OR BASED ON YOUR CLAIMED OWNERSHIP OF ANY VIRTUAL CHARACTER OR GOODS IN THE GAME OR THE WORLD OR FOR THE DELETION OR TERMINATION OF YOUR PLAYER ACCOUNT OR CONTENT, IN WHOLE OR IN PART, FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON.

Souhlasit ze nebudes zalovat Aventurine .etc. na zaklade vlastneni virtualnich postav, predmetu, uctu ve hre/svete ci na zaklade smazani ci zruseni uctu ci obsahu celkove ci jen castecne z jakehokoliv/zadneho duvodu.


Neboli nikdo je za nic nemuze zazalovat. btw - sory za moji blbou anglinu. kdo to prelozi lepe ma u me pusu :)


First of all, who cares? Goodbye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave!
Secondly, you will still buy this. Stop fishing for attention you lonely little troll.

Edited by - Rodier on 17/03/2009 13:46:59
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Rashaverak
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3721 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2009 :  14:09:21  Show Profile  Send Rashaverak an ICQ Message Send Rashaverak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
v alzasoftu mi taky tvrdily ze v obchodnich podminkach maji napsano ze kdyz si koupis vec pres inet tak ji do 14 dni nemuzes bez duvodu vratit protoze nejsou pujcovna.

Napsat si tam do toho muzes cokoliv, treba ze kdyz ti zavirujou komp a posleze prijdes o vsechny data na hadru, ze je nemuzes zazalovat, eula je uplne irelevantni, prijde mi ze to je snuska nesmyslu ktera ma uzivatele mozna odradit od podobnych kroku, zadny jiny vyznam nema.

Nicmene duvod zaloby kvuli fronte je usmevny, kdyz to ustal blbzzard tak uz se nemuze stat nikomu nic.

lastfm

Edited by - Rashaverak on 17/03/2009 14:11:13
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Shatteren
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Posted - 17/03/2009 :  14:21:01  Show Profile  Visit Shatteren's Homepage Send Shatteren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Octopuss

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Tak tohle se mi hrubě nelíbí. Co myslíte?

No pripadam si jak v Big Brotherovi (hlavne to monitorovani pohybu a chatu)

REVOLUTION
https://www.blitzunion.com/video



Edited by - Shatteren on 17/03/2009 14:23:55
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Kuzmik
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1328 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2009 :  14:26:45  Show Profile  Send Kuzmik an ICQ Message Send Kuzmik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rashaverak
Nicmene duvod zaloby kvuli fronte je usmevny, kdyz to ustal blbzzard tak uz se nemuze stat nikomu nic.


Ja myslim ze to je taky nezalovatelne. Ale na druhou stranu si myslim, ze v pripade ze ti za mesic strhnou poplatek a neumozni ti hrat, zalovateny to bude. Ne kvuli 5-10h frontam. Ty jako takove zalovatelne nebudou, ale jsem presvedcen, ze pokud platis nejaky poplatek za neco, co vlastne nedelaj, zalovatelne to je. Poplatkem si platis nejakou podporu, udrzbu hardwaru a jine picoviny. Pokud to nesplni, vystavuji se tim rizikum, at uz v jejich EULE odsouhlasime co chcem.

Osobne doufam, ze na tom ouzoboys zamakaj, spusti dalsi server a fronty, desyncy a jine neresti se behem mesice poresej.

"Nobody likes you. Everybody hates you. You're gonna lose. Smile, you fuck!"
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Morticia
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Morticia

74 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2009 :  14:34:58  Show Profile Send Morticia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rodier

jak si kazdej otvira hubu ze zazaluje aventurine za ty fronty apodobne keci..aniz by si predem neprecetli EULU (nevim jak moc je to skutecne proveditelne..fakt jsem cetl ze nektere casti smluv u her nejsou proveditelne.. )

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Neboli nikdo je za nic nemuze zazalovat. btw - sory za moji blbou anglinu. kdo to prelozi lepe ma u me pusu :)



Pusu si nech, prelozil jsi to celkem spravne. Samozrejme je zazalovat muzes, je pak na posouzeni soudu jak by kvalifikoval podminky EULY, jestli nejsou v rozporu s obecnymi pravnimi predpisy a dobrymi mravy.
Obecne tyhle spory jsou dukazove velmi slozite, na tobe by pak byl prukaz toho ze skutecne ty jsi se nemohl pripojit, nemohl si hrat, za coz jsi zaplatil a ze to mohou oni. Navic bys je musel zalovat zrejme primarne v Recku..
V praxi je samozrejme nikdo zalovat nebude, malokdo bude vyhazovat tisice eur za nejakyho pravnika, to kazdy radeji ozeli tech 50 euro a zrusi subscription.
Blabla jen sem chtel rict ze to ze nekdo neco takoveho nekam napise neznamena ze je nemuzes zazalovat. Naopak muzes a casto uspesne. (U nas typicky pripad nekterych kseftu ktere si svevolne snizuji zarucni lhuty a podminky dane obecnym pravnim predpisem). Fronta v internetove hre ale rozhodne neni ten pripad.

A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Mrs. Svine, Reservoir Dogs

Edited by - Morticia on 17/03/2009 14:41:14
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